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Elon Musk *Critical* Tesla Stock Flip | FSD & Robotaxi

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hey everyone me Kevin here so Elon Musk

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just dropped the price of full

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self-driving to $99 per month he left

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the full price option where you just pay

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once and then you don't have a

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subscription fee at $122,000 which

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really is probably a sign that they're

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not really converting many of those

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$112,000 individuals and so they're

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purposefully leaving that price at 12K

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because now you're not insulting that

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many people who paid 12K recently

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although there are going to be some uh

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and what you're doing is you're trying

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to drive this value for the $99 version

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by showing people look it's going to

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take you like 10 years to break even if

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you spend 12K so why not take this

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reasonably priced offer of $99 so now

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the question is what is this actually

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going to do for the fundamentals of

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Tesla does this actually change the

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thesis for the stock so what I did is I

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put together a spreadsheet and we'll put

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it up on screen and it is basically

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three

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different like impacts that this does

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for the stock uh now I purposefully went

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out to 2026 for this rather than going

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out to you know 2030 or 2040 or

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something crazy because I I want to see

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what the near-term impact for the stock

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could be and really the only way to do

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that is going out um honestly 2 and A2

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years is already quite a bit the end of

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2026 I think if you go out uh any more

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than that you're you're not going to see

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that immediacy in the stock movement and

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I think that's what most people care

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about so uh let's talk about this as we

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uh look at that Florida beach this why I

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love Florida I grew up in Florida uh

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okay so the first thing we're going to

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do is we're going to look at what I

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consider my base case scenario

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and there's a big problem that a lot of

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people have a lot of people are not

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realizing that there are costs

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associated with full self- driving a lot

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of people think Kevin full self-driving

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is going to be 100% 100% to the bottom

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line it's the best margin driver ever

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there's no capex and it's just going to

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be pure

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profit so there's realistic and then

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there's unrealistic and unrealistic is

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no cost there's a lot of cost you have

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to keep in mind they just spent probably

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somewhere around $3 to $500 million

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buying 10,000 h100s and guess what those

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are now the old school version of chicks

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Blackwell which will be available

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towards the end of the year you're

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probably able to train FSD four times as

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fast some of the newest

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chips so you're consistently probably to

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have the latest and greatest chips going

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to have to spend just on chips alone

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probably and and I should just say

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graphic chips which that's literally

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what FSD is trained off of right

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Graphics video graphics like you might

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be able to move some of these chat-based

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neural Nets off of some of these gpus in

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the longer term but you know maybe to

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like A6 or something more more specific

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to just Tech space but video video

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neural Nets it's always going to need

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the latest and greatest stuff to really

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get better because it's not just a

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matter of training at once like getting

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to the version you know 1234 that we

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have now that's great but really to iron

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out the rest of these edge cases we're

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just going to need a lot more training a

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lot more compute by using a lot more

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data like quite frankly the fact that

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1233 and

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1234 is making left and right turns from

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center lanes totally dodging the left

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and right turn Lanes is weird there

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should be plenty of data to tell the

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systems this is not what it's supposed

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to do now I'm not saying those things

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aren't solvable in fact we could bandage

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them tomorrow just by writing a line of

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code but that defeats the purpose we're

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trying to get away from writing lines of

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code so we need this data we need the

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training frankly we need better chips to

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really advance I think one of the

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reasons we got to 12 versus 12 frankly

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the anti- neuronet is because the h100s

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came out and so obviously that's a mode

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for NVIDIA uh but that's just going to

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get as the chips get better and better

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FSD will get better and better and these

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edge cases will go away but that takes

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cap X and that's what a lot of people

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forget is you're probably throwing 500

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to a billion dollars at chips alone once

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you consider that we don't just need

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gpus but we need CPUs we need memory we

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need server racks uh and and then we

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need infrastructure uh and then we got

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to pay for that infrastructure the

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electricity uh the the power the the

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people who are maintaining the servers

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the people who are upgrading the servers

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whatever and then of course you need the

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R&D folks who actually uh implement this

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into the systems on Tesla vehicles the

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software updates to push this to people

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uh there's there's a lot that goes into

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it so I think initially we're probably

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looking at spending quite a bit uh of

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fsds Revenue

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on R&D so your AI training expense uh

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your chips whatever the things I just

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mentioned so I think if we go with my

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base case scenario we're probably

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looking in 2024 if we had a 12 1 12%

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take rate keep in mind that's already

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adjusting for the fact that some cars

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are never going to have F because if you

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have a fleet right now of about 82

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million vehicles uh worldwide by the end

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of the year so that's assuming you know

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another 2 million of production we're

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probably going to and that might be

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generous there's a percentage that are

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in other countries where we don't do FSD

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there is a percentage that uh are

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scrapped vehicles that just got

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destroyed I mean obviously and there are

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a percentage of people who are just

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never actually going to want to buy a

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FSC uh because some people don't drive a

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lot you know if I'm uh if if I'm

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somebody who uh you know if all I do is

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I drop my kids off at school 4 minutes

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away and I pick them up and that's all I

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do twice a day 5 days a week do I re

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really need FSD for 10 minutes of

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driving a day no of course not so

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there's always going to be a percentage

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of people who won't get it and so hence

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when we Factor all of these things in

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the other countries scrap Vehicles

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people who just refuse to get it uh and

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people who have already paid for FSD so

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you're not getting that recurring

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monthly Revenue you're going to be

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looking at probably a pretty low take

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rate initially hopefully it's in excess

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of 12 1/2% but let's assume that it's 12

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1/2% right now uh and then what we're

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going to do is we're going to multiply

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that obviously by uh uh the9 $99 a month

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time 12 right okay so let's go ahead and

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take a look at the base case scenario

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and explain how I'm doing this so if you

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look at the chart you'll see 8.5 million

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yeah that's always loud 8 half million

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Fleet size multipli by a 122% take rate

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you get the value how much money that

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could generate 1.2 billion take out how

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much you're probably spending on AI

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expense I think $800 uh million is quite

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frankly low uh I think they'll probably

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spend more than that but let's just say

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it's 70% uh divide that by shares

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outstanding you're only adding about 12

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cents to EPS which adds about 4% to EPS

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it basically does nothing uh for EPS at

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some point in the longer term honestly I

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think you'll probably want to just

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include FSD uh in the actual price of

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the vehicle but then margin will go up

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so whether you calculate it here on take

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rate or you calculate it as part of

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vehicle margin you have to put the value

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of FSD somewhere so for 2024 on my base

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case I don't really see a big move in

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this $99 feature it's it's not as

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valuable as as I think we hope now if we

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go out to 20126 I think we'll be able to

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move that take rate to nearly a quarter

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of vehicles that'll be about 22 1.2% of

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vehicles and I think our AI expense will

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still be around a billion 1.3 billion is

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what I wrote down about 40% and uh that

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add

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63 cents to our EPS which if we add a

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40x multiple on that because hopefully

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we're growing at you know we're growing

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EPS at 25% a year a 1.6 Peg right we

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multiply that out we get a 40 multiple

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that adds about $25 of Share value to

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the stock in 2026 which I think is fair

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to look at now in fact I think frankly

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if we didn't have version 12 FSD Tesla

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stock would probably be around

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$140 maybe $145

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so if you look at the last 30 days the

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last 30 days have been pretty wild for

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Tesla think about it for a moment you

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went from version 11 in the last 30 days

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to version 12 121 122 123 12 31 32 33

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34 you got half uh off on monthly FSD

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Revenue you got an August 8th Robo taxi

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announcement and the potential

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cancellation of the $225,000 car which I

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know a lot of ultra Tesa you're like why

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is everyone so concentrated on a $25,000

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car well I'll explain that in just a

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moment but the last 30 days have been

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crazy and so one of the reasons Tesla

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stock is the fact that it's flat over

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the last 30 days with the horrible q1

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deliveries number is actually a sign

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that the market is adding back in some

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of the value of FSD or Robo taxi or or

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whatever otherwise the stock would be

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down substantially more of the delivery

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numbers that we had so what does this

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mean well this means we're we're

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probably already factoring in the base

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case into Tesla stocks value now and I

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think what we do is we can look at Bull

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cases and Ultra bull cases in my bull

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Case by 2026 I think we have 35%

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adoption and only 20% in expenses uh and

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that's going to drive about $52 in Share

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value I do not think that's being priced

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in right now uh and then in the ultra

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bull case which I personally think is

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unrealistic in the ultra B case we're

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only adding about $80 a share in value

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by 2026 which we would start pricing in

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relatively soon now that is pretty good

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especially since I think the vehicles

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for the company you're probably adding

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about $140 to the share price maybe $120

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to the share price so 80 bucks should

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put us in the low 200s in the ultra bll

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case uh the problem with all of this is

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we can't

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really understand what the take rates

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are for Tesla because they don't give

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that data to us so without having that

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Clarity we're kind of at a loss if we

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don't have the clarity on what take

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rates are now then how can we know if

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the things we're changing like pricing

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or otherwise are actually being

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respected by the markets we don't and we

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don't really see a lot of FSD Revenue

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recognition in each quarter so it makes

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it very difficult as an investor to have

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Clarity this lack of clarity has always

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made me excited for the icing on the

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cake at Tesla but I've always

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underwritten Tesla as a car company

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that's growing rapidly and so for me

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when we're able to grow EPS by 30% a

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year well I can give Tesla a 50p ratio

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and when we can get to 5 million

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vehicles at some point in the future you

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know this is a $400 $500 stock for me

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just underwriting on cars but that

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thesis has falling apart now because

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Elon is shifting from something that is

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very clear to underwrite vehicle

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deliveries and a cheaper car to we're

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going all in on Robo taxi but Robo taxi

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comes with this massive level of

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investment

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that first of all we're not near Robo

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taxi now we're probably 10 years away

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from robotaxi and not only are we

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probably 10 years away from Robo taxi

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when Robo taxi first starts you're still

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competing with Uber and I know people

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think to us how the hell are we

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competing with Uber we're going to

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bankrupt Uber they have Labor right but

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you're trying to get Uber's Revenue so

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if I'm going to spend 20 bucks for an

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Uber for you know a 10 or 15minute drive

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or 20-minute

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drive one of the reasons I'm willing to

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pay for that is because I value my time

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and I'm not going to sit at a corner you

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know waiting for an Uber for 30

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minutes or a robo taxi for 30 minutes if

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I could get an Uber in 2 minutes you

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need a lot of vehicles a lot of

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vehicles to actually get people using

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the robo taxi Network you need FSD

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perfected Vision based FSD perfected

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we're not close to that then you need

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people saying wow the robo taxi is

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better I don't have to talk to a driver

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it's cheaper which that lowers your

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margin anyway uh and I don't have to tip

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a driver this is great but they still

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have to manufacture the car you know

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even if you create a $30,000 Robo taxi

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80% of that car so $24,000 of that car

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is still going to be cost for Tesla

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we're not actually convinced they can

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manufacture a car for $24,000 yet so

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it's not like these cars are free and

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you know Uber is doing millions of rides

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a day so in order for us to pull that

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off

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I mean we're going to need hundreds of

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thousands of vehicles so we're going to

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need one to two quars of of robotaxi

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vehicle production just to be able to

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start competing with Uber in in certain

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markets first where you get your

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delivery times down low enough at a

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reasonable price where people are

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willing to take a Tesla Robo taxi versus

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an Uber or a lift a lot of competition

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there so yes even though there is a

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human there and even though you know

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Uber spends somewhere around oh boy they

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uh they're they've got about $37 billion

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of Revenue they spent about $22 billion

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just on the labor so more than half is

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just going to the drivers right that's

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all future potential margin for Tesla

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which is hopium because the price is

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just going to go down the price of

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providing the service is going to go

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down you know if you take $22 billion of

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cost away somebody else is able to

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operate Uber basically for uh in that

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case that'd be about $15 billion so they

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can drive the prices down by 50% so the

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$20 ride is now a $10 ride and no tip

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which is great but again Des has to

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provide the actual cars somebody has to

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charge the cars the cars have to be

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maintained who cleans the cars between

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each ride the person who throw up in the

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back right uh and that's all assuming

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we're at level five autonomy so I I it

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it's great but like it's great hope but

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as an investor trying to trying to price

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it in I can't price Robo taxi in yet I I

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can only price in the hope of it but

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what it can price in is some reasonable

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level of speculation on FSD which that's

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why yes I think there is an ultra bull

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case where the expenses are virtually

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nothing for FSD and the take rates are

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like you know upwards of 45 to 65% but I

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think it's heavily unrealistic I think

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right now we're maybe adding 25 bucks a

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share now the difference is if we can

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get EPS growth from this and we start

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proving wow we're really growing from

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this then guess what happens if instead

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of valuing Tesla at a 40 multiple you

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start pricing it in at an 80 multiple on

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future growth because now you're getting

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EPS growth from software which

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eventually will be higher margin they

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could prove and this is the real hopium

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method they could prove to be the most

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profitable software AI play that exists

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I actually think that there's very

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little profitable software right now uh

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that's AI may maybe maybe maybe paler

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let's get windy uh P tiers an option uh

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I think most of the companies like uh

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you know the sales forces and the msfs

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you know they're they're trying and I

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think they can they can probably boost

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their sales a little bit on Office 365

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oh get it with AI it's $5 more a month

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whatever problem is that's going to

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become so so Baseline that I'm not

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actually convinced you're going to see

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such Revenue explosion uh at at at some

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of the core software companies now that

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have run as much as they have on AI so I

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think those are a little bubbly I

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actually like Nvidia more than I like

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some of those plays but realistically

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Tesla's one of the most profitable AI

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plays or will be one of the most

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profitable AI plays the question is and

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that's from a revenue side the question

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is how much are they going to spend to

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get there on uh on cap

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backs and when are we actually going to

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get transparency on how much EPS growth

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we can actually expect from these things

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if Tesla can lay out a road map for

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here's how much we think we can do in

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earnings per share

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and here's how much revenue we think

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we're going to make based on a certain

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take rate that's when this stock can

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actually finally unleash and take off

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because you're going to get away from

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just focusing on vehicle deliveries

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which we know are in the toilet right

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now and you can actually start

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underwriting okay rather than just a hm

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point of view we can actually underwrite

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how much can we expect to show up in

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earnings for the stock okay we're going

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to I mean elon's done this before he

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just tells us look we're going to Target

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uh 60% take rate on new vehicles and a

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fleet take rate of 30% which we want to

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grow to 40% over time uh and then what

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we're going to do is uh you know once we

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get this going we're going to f we're

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still going to focus on a compact car

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you know it's not going to be called a

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model 2 or whatever we're going to call

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it who knows whatever but you're going

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to be able to get it as roboox incapable

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this we just get a

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vision then we can actually price the

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Stu so that's my take hopefully that's

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useful and if it is let me know in the

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comments down below I made some money on

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uh trading some uh Tesla calls yesterday

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it was really good Tesla was just like

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straight up and down uh yesterday it was

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down 2% on the day but I bought it was

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down 2% so I was arving the difference

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between that 2% and like

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1755 and uh we were killing it on some

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calls yesterday so if you want all those

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