Elon Musk *Critical* Tesla Stock Flip | FSD & Robotaxi
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hey everyone me Kevin here so Elon Musk
just dropped the price of full
self-driving to $99 per month he left
the full price option where you just pay
once and then you don't have a
subscription fee at $122,000 which
really is probably a sign that they're
not really converting many of those
$112,000 individuals and so they're
purposefully leaving that price at 12K
because now you're not insulting that
many people who paid 12K recently
although there are going to be some uh
and what you're doing is you're trying
to drive this value for the $99 version
by showing people look it's going to
take you like 10 years to break even if
you spend 12K so why not take this
reasonably priced offer of $99 so now
the question is what is this actually
going to do for the fundamentals of
Tesla does this actually change the
thesis for the stock so what I did is I
put together a spreadsheet and we'll put
it up on screen and it is basically
three
different like impacts that this does
for the stock uh now I purposefully went
out to 2026 for this rather than going
out to you know 2030 or 2040 or
something crazy because I I want to see
what the near-term impact for the stock
could be and really the only way to do
that is going out um honestly 2 and A2
years is already quite a bit the end of
2026 I think if you go out uh any more
than that you're you're not going to see
that immediacy in the stock movement and
I think that's what most people care
about so uh let's talk about this as we
uh look at that Florida beach this why I
love Florida I grew up in Florida uh
okay so the first thing we're going to
do is we're going to look at what I
consider my base case scenario
and there's a big problem that a lot of
people have a lot of people are not
realizing that there are costs
associated with full self- driving a lot
of people think Kevin full self-driving
is going to be 100% 100% to the bottom
line it's the best margin driver ever
there's no capex and it's just going to
be pure
profit so there's realistic and then
there's unrealistic and unrealistic is
no cost there's a lot of cost you have
to keep in mind they just spent probably
somewhere around $3 to $500 million
buying 10,000 h100s and guess what those
are now the old school version of chicks
Blackwell which will be available
towards the end of the year you're
probably able to train FSD four times as
fast some of the newest
chips so you're consistently probably to
have the latest and greatest chips going
to have to spend just on chips alone
probably and and I should just say
graphic chips which that's literally
what FSD is trained off of right
Graphics video graphics like you might
be able to move some of these chat-based
neural Nets off of some of these gpus in
the longer term but you know maybe to
like A6 or something more more specific
to just Tech space but video video
neural Nets it's always going to need
the latest and greatest stuff to really
get better because it's not just a
matter of training at once like getting
to the version you know 1234 that we
have now that's great but really to iron
out the rest of these edge cases we're
just going to need a lot more training a
lot more compute by using a lot more
data like quite frankly the fact that
1233 and
1234 is making left and right turns from
center lanes totally dodging the left
and right turn Lanes is weird there
should be plenty of data to tell the
systems this is not what it's supposed
to do now I'm not saying those things
aren't solvable in fact we could bandage
them tomorrow just by writing a line of
code but that defeats the purpose we're
trying to get away from writing lines of
code so we need this data we need the
training frankly we need better chips to
really advance I think one of the
reasons we got to 12 versus 12 frankly
the anti- neuronet is because the h100s
came out and so obviously that's a mode
for NVIDIA uh but that's just going to
get as the chips get better and better
FSD will get better and better and these
edge cases will go away but that takes
cap X and that's what a lot of people
forget is you're probably throwing 500
to a billion dollars at chips alone once
you consider that we don't just need
gpus but we need CPUs we need memory we
need server racks uh and and then we
need infrastructure uh and then we got
to pay for that infrastructure the
electricity uh the the power the the
people who are maintaining the servers
the people who are upgrading the servers
whatever and then of course you need the
R&D folks who actually uh implement this
into the systems on Tesla vehicles the
software updates to push this to people
uh there's there's a lot that goes into
it so I think initially we're probably
looking at spending quite a bit uh of
fsds Revenue
on R&D so your AI training expense uh
your chips whatever the things I just
mentioned so I think if we go with my
base case scenario we're probably
looking in 2024 if we had a 12 1 12%
take rate keep in mind that's already
adjusting for the fact that some cars
are never going to have F because if you
have a fleet right now of about 82
million vehicles uh worldwide by the end
of the year so that's assuming you know
another 2 million of production we're
probably going to and that might be
generous there's a percentage that are
in other countries where we don't do FSD
there is a percentage that uh are
scrapped vehicles that just got
destroyed I mean obviously and there are
a percentage of people who are just
never actually going to want to buy a
FSC uh because some people don't drive a
lot you know if I'm uh if if I'm
somebody who uh you know if all I do is
I drop my kids off at school 4 minutes
away and I pick them up and that's all I
do twice a day 5 days a week do I re
really need FSD for 10 minutes of
driving a day no of course not so
there's always going to be a percentage
of people who won't get it and so hence
when we Factor all of these things in
the other countries scrap Vehicles
people who just refuse to get it uh and
people who have already paid for FSD so
you're not getting that recurring
monthly Revenue you're going to be
looking at probably a pretty low take
rate initially hopefully it's in excess
of 12 1/2% but let's assume that it's 12
1/2% right now uh and then what we're
going to do is we're going to multiply
that obviously by uh uh the9 $99 a month
time 12 right okay so let's go ahead and
take a look at the base case scenario
and explain how I'm doing this so if you
look at the chart you'll see 8.5 million
yeah that's always loud 8 half million
Fleet size multipli by a 122% take rate
you get the value how much money that
could generate 1.2 billion take out how
much you're probably spending on AI
expense I think $800 uh million is quite
frankly low uh I think they'll probably
spend more than that but let's just say
it's 70% uh divide that by shares
outstanding you're only adding about 12
cents to EPS which adds about 4% to EPS
it basically does nothing uh for EPS at
some point in the longer term honestly I
think you'll probably want to just
include FSD uh in the actual price of
the vehicle but then margin will go up
so whether you calculate it here on take
rate or you calculate it as part of
vehicle margin you have to put the value
of FSD somewhere so for 2024 on my base
case I don't really see a big move in
this $99 feature it's it's not as
valuable as as I think we hope now if we
go out to 20126 I think we'll be able to
move that take rate to nearly a quarter
of vehicles that'll be about 22 1.2% of
vehicles and I think our AI expense will
still be around a billion 1.3 billion is
what I wrote down about 40% and uh that
add
63 cents to our EPS which if we add a
40x multiple on that because hopefully
we're growing at you know we're growing
EPS at 25% a year a 1.6 Peg right we
multiply that out we get a 40 multiple
that adds about $25 of Share value to
the stock in 2026 which I think is fair
to look at now in fact I think frankly
if we didn't have version 12 FSD Tesla
stock would probably be around
$140 maybe $145
so if you look at the last 30 days the
last 30 days have been pretty wild for
Tesla think about it for a moment you
went from version 11 in the last 30 days
to version 12 121 122 123 12 31 32 33
34 you got half uh off on monthly FSD
Revenue you got an August 8th Robo taxi
announcement and the potential
cancellation of the $225,000 car which I
know a lot of ultra Tesa you're like why
is everyone so concentrated on a $25,000
car well I'll explain that in just a
moment but the last 30 days have been
crazy and so one of the reasons Tesla
stock is the fact that it's flat over
the last 30 days with the horrible q1
deliveries number is actually a sign
that the market is adding back in some
of the value of FSD or Robo taxi or or
whatever otherwise the stock would be
down substantially more of the delivery
numbers that we had so what does this
mean well this means we're we're
probably already factoring in the base
case into Tesla stocks value now and I
think what we do is we can look at Bull
cases and Ultra bull cases in my bull
Case by 2026 I think we have 35%
adoption and only 20% in expenses uh and
that's going to drive about $52 in Share
value I do not think that's being priced
in right now uh and then in the ultra
bull case which I personally think is
unrealistic in the ultra B case we're
only adding about $80 a share in value
by 2026 which we would start pricing in
relatively soon now that is pretty good
especially since I think the vehicles
for the company you're probably adding
about $140 to the share price maybe $120
to the share price so 80 bucks should
put us in the low 200s in the ultra bll
case uh the problem with all of this is
we can't
really understand what the take rates
are for Tesla because they don't give
that data to us so without having that
Clarity we're kind of at a loss if we
don't have the clarity on what take
rates are now then how can we know if
the things we're changing like pricing
or otherwise are actually being
respected by the markets we don't and we
don't really see a lot of FSD Revenue
recognition in each quarter so it makes
it very difficult as an investor to have
Clarity this lack of clarity has always
made me excited for the icing on the
cake at Tesla but I've always
underwritten Tesla as a car company
that's growing rapidly and so for me
when we're able to grow EPS by 30% a
year well I can give Tesla a 50p ratio
and when we can get to 5 million
vehicles at some point in the future you
know this is a $400 $500 stock for me
just underwriting on cars but that
thesis has falling apart now because
Elon is shifting from something that is
very clear to underwrite vehicle
deliveries and a cheaper car to we're
going all in on Robo taxi but Robo taxi
comes with this massive level of
investment
that first of all we're not near Robo
taxi now we're probably 10 years away
from robotaxi and not only are we
probably 10 years away from Robo taxi
when Robo taxi first starts you're still
competing with Uber and I know people
think to us how the hell are we
competing with Uber we're going to
bankrupt Uber they have Labor right but
you're trying to get Uber's Revenue so
if I'm going to spend 20 bucks for an
Uber for you know a 10 or 15minute drive
or 20-minute
drive one of the reasons I'm willing to
pay for that is because I value my time
and I'm not going to sit at a corner you
know waiting for an Uber for 30
minutes or a robo taxi for 30 minutes if
I could get an Uber in 2 minutes you
need a lot of vehicles a lot of
vehicles to actually get people using
the robo taxi Network you need FSD
perfected Vision based FSD perfected
we're not close to that then you need
people saying wow the robo taxi is
better I don't have to talk to a driver
it's cheaper which that lowers your
margin anyway uh and I don't have to tip
a driver this is great but they still
have to manufacture the car you know
even if you create a $30,000 Robo taxi
80% of that car so $24,000 of that car
is still going to be cost for Tesla
we're not actually convinced they can
manufacture a car for $24,000 yet so
it's not like these cars are free and
you know Uber is doing millions of rides
a day so in order for us to pull that
off
I mean we're going to need hundreds of
thousands of vehicles so we're going to
need one to two quars of of robotaxi
vehicle production just to be able to
start competing with Uber in in certain
markets first where you get your
delivery times down low enough at a
reasonable price where people are
willing to take a Tesla Robo taxi versus
an Uber or a lift a lot of competition
there so yes even though there is a
human there and even though you know
Uber spends somewhere around oh boy they
uh they're they've got about $37 billion
of Revenue they spent about $22 billion
just on the labor so more than half is
just going to the drivers right that's
all future potential margin for Tesla
which is hopium because the price is
just going to go down the price of
providing the service is going to go
down you know if you take $22 billion of
cost away somebody else is able to
operate Uber basically for uh in that
case that'd be about $15 billion so they
can drive the prices down by 50% so the
$20 ride is now a $10 ride and no tip
which is great but again Des has to
provide the actual cars somebody has to
charge the cars the cars have to be
maintained who cleans the cars between
each ride the person who throw up in the
back right uh and that's all assuming
we're at level five autonomy so I I it
it's great but like it's great hope but
as an investor trying to trying to price
it in I can't price Robo taxi in yet I I
can only price in the hope of it but
what it can price in is some reasonable
level of speculation on FSD which that's
why yes I think there is an ultra bull
case where the expenses are virtually
nothing for FSD and the take rates are
like you know upwards of 45 to 65% but I
think it's heavily unrealistic I think
right now we're maybe adding 25 bucks a
share now the difference is if we can
get EPS growth from this and we start
proving wow we're really growing from
this then guess what happens if instead
of valuing Tesla at a 40 multiple you
start pricing it in at an 80 multiple on
future growth because now you're getting
EPS growth from software which
eventually will be higher margin they
could prove and this is the real hopium
method they could prove to be the most
profitable software AI play that exists
I actually think that there's very
little profitable software right now uh
that's AI may maybe maybe maybe paler
let's get windy uh P tiers an option uh
I think most of the companies like uh
you know the sales forces and the msfs
you know they're they're trying and I
think they can they can probably boost
their sales a little bit on Office 365
oh get it with AI it's $5 more a month
whatever problem is that's going to
become so so Baseline that I'm not
actually convinced you're going to see
such Revenue explosion uh at at at some
of the core software companies now that
have run as much as they have on AI so I
think those are a little bubbly I
actually like Nvidia more than I like
some of those plays but realistically
Tesla's one of the most profitable AI
plays or will be one of the most
profitable AI plays the question is and
that's from a revenue side the question
is how much are they going to spend to
get there on uh on cap
backs and when are we actually going to
get transparency on how much EPS growth
we can actually expect from these things
if Tesla can lay out a road map for
here's how much we think we can do in
earnings per share
and here's how much revenue we think
we're going to make based on a certain
take rate that's when this stock can
actually finally unleash and take off
because you're going to get away from
just focusing on vehicle deliveries
which we know are in the toilet right
now and you can actually start
underwriting okay rather than just a hm
point of view we can actually underwrite
how much can we expect to show up in
earnings for the stock okay we're going
to I mean elon's done this before he
just tells us look we're going to Target
uh 60% take rate on new vehicles and a
fleet take rate of 30% which we want to
grow to 40% over time uh and then what
we're going to do is uh you know once we
get this going we're going to f we're
still going to focus on a compact car
you know it's not going to be called a
model 2 or whatever we're going to call
it who knows whatever but you're going
to be able to get it as roboox incapable
this we just get a
vision then we can actually price the
Stu so that's my take hopefully that's
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