Dr Bert Le Roux: Body, Soul & Spirit

Amen. Thank you so much. Um I wanted to

ask before we start so everyone who's

new, Lady Barbara, um Lady Marian, Lady

Dedry, Lady Monique, all of you, you've

been through a whole week. How have you

experienced it? Is it overwhelming? Is

it stretching you? Are you enjoying it?

Anyone

>> may I speak?

>> Please.

>> I really enjoy it. It's very insightful.

You know, I've learned a lot of things.

I never realized

and especially when you see the um like

with Dr. Bird's classes, the emotional

side of it, your rational side of it. I

really never thought about it that way.

So it's I'm really learning a lot and I

enjoy the classes.

>> Awesome. I'm glad to hear that. And for

the returning students,

are you also enjoying it? I'm glad.

Ok, wonderful. Um so everybody I wanted

to share with you I had a phone call

from Dr. Bert and he had to go in for an

operation now. So um I wanted to ask if

there is maybe two people who would like

to pray for him. I'm g to report that

and send it to him. He needs to do a hip

replacement. So I assume that it is

something that was in the pipeline for a

while but it's just come through. So

he's not gonna be here this evening, but

um he did give me an audio recording

that I will play for you. So you will

have class this evening. Unfortunately

you won't see his face or his whiteboard

or a part of his arm. You will see um

only my screen and then you will hear

the audio recording. But you will still

be able to have the class this evening.

So I apologize for that but we are

trying to make it work. So can I ask is

there maybe two volunteers who would

just like to pray over him make sure

that he is um safe and covered while

he's under and being operated

no one I can pray. Ok just bear with me

Lady Monique. So Sir David and Lady

Monique. So um I'm g to ask Sir David

you can start and then afterwards

Lady Monique you can continue. Thank you

very much.

Father Lord come before you today Lord I

pray Lord for Dr. that Lord I pray Lord

that you will you will be with him Lord

is is he is now being operated on upon I

pray Lord for each and every doctor Lord

each and every person that will

assisting the operation

I pray petition Lord that your angels

will surround them Lord that every

that that every um movement of a scalple

Lord every

piece of equipment shall will work as it

need to be Lord I pray for swift and the

the speedy and the efficient operation.

I pray also Lord as the after operation

that this recovery shall be quick and it

shall be and it nothing will go wrong in

now in the name of Jesus Christ.

>> Thank you father. I just pray that you

will go with Dr. Bird and that you will

cover him with your blood. Father, it's

I just actually want to agree with Sir

David um that what he said I agree fully

with him. Be with each person there,

every doctor, every nurse that is um

operating on him to let your hands go

through their hands. You don't know what

they need to do, father. And thank you

that you just have the perfect way for

Dr. B. And also like I said I agree with

sir um uh David for afterwards for a

full and very quickly recovery and that

we can come see him again. Thank you

Abba. Amen.

Amen. Thank you very much. Ok, bear with

me. Um, I'm going to share the recording

and play it and it will also be uploaded

on YouTube so you can listen back to it.

Good evening everybody.

What a great privilege it is for me once

again to spend an hour, hour and a half

with you in the word of God.

Remember our text of last week. We've

mentioned quite a few but we started off

with a text in the Bible. Isaiah 4:6 my

people perish due to a lack of knowledge

and the word of God declares um in that

passage because you have rejected my

knowledge I reject you that you shall be

no prest to me because you have

forgotten the law of your God I will

also forget your children. And I

remember I said that's quite a harsh

verse for us to understand or to uh

abide in but we have to gain the

knowledge of God.

And this course the body, soul and

spirit intends to help you to understand

what is happening in your body, soul and

spirit and how it interactively work

with each other.

And last week we dealt with a few

aspects and more in general we dealt

with the three levels of decision

making. And in that three levels of

decision making, uh we spoke about the

rational level, the emotional level and

also the reactionary level.

Now once you get into a emotional level

of decision making,

that is where we experience a lot of

negative aspects in our life. If we read

a scripture like Romans 7:23,

it reads as follows. And I'm reading

from the Amplified Bible. But I discern

my bodily members in the sensitive

appetites and wills of the flesh. A

different law, rule of action, at war

against the law of my mind, my reason,

and making me a prisoner of the law of

sin that dwells in my bodily organs in

the sensitive appetites of the walls of

the flesh. Here you can see this is a

man that whether they in the in the

church today or whether they in the

world if they experience this negative

emotional impact in their life theyve

got um uh

fight in in their flesh in their mind

against the problems of this world the

situations that they actually are

finding themselves in and in in a great

sense people becomes prisoners of that

law of that problem in in their lives

and they fight against different things,

different aspects that keeps them down

in that emotional level and uh I've

given you a lot of information regarding

to that emotional level but if you go

back to your rational level that is

where we are functioning in the optimal

uh that is in more uh where God is

pleased with you. You've got good

relationships. Remember all those things

that I spoke to you about? I don't want

to uh go back on that but you you had

the all the info regarding that. But if

you read a scripture, Romans 8: 2, you

can read for the law of the spirit of

life, which is in Christ Jesus, the law

of our new being has befreed me from the

law of sin and death. In Romans 7:23,

you can see a man that is exceptionally

caught up in the emotional state of

being. But now if you're in a rational

decision making level, this is where

things are going well with you. This is

where you feel that you don't suffer

from all these negative impacts, this

problems in your in your life.

And you don't have to worry about all

these things um that a person worries

about when they in the emotional or the

reactionary being. But if you look at

that diagram that I showed you, the

rational, emotional and reactionary,

you're going to find that from your

rational to your reactionary level, one

might think it takes a very long time to

go down from your rational to your

emotional level. But I want to tell you

tonight that it is very quick for you to

to go down from a rational to a

reactionary level.

And I'm going to show you later on,

maybe tonight or in the

followup session how Satan is actually

using your body or can use a person's

body to commit a sin. And then that sin

is no longer Satan's sin. It is your sin

because you allowed them allowed these

evil forces to use your body or your

state of mind to commit a sin. Now let

me show you quickly. And I'm going to go

through it very slowly so that you can

understand uh and write it down clearly.

There's 11 steps that one can take from

where you in a rational state to where

you can even commit murder. Um, and when

I'm talking about committing murder, we

must understand one thing that the Bible

says that we will heal the sick and

raise the dead.

So when the Bible talks about that with

us and we speak in new languages,

when the Bible talks about that, it is

not necessarily uh that we going to

raise physical dead people. There are

hundreds if not thousands of spiritual

dead people lying next to the road or

sitting outside churches today that need

someone to go and speak to them, someone

to to tell them about Jesus Christ

because somewhere along the line these

people got hurt spiritually

and that killed their faith.

We need to have the shoes

of uh righteousness on us so that we can

walk the path with those people and make

sure that we that we lead them in the

truth of God. So let's start quickly

with the first

thing that will happen when you're in

your rational state. Something happens

with you. Remember I said to you there's

a trigger which is the window uh the

window of opportunity that God is giving

us. And when you when that happens with

you, when something triggers you from

that rational

uh state of mind

where everything is going well with you,

then you firstly go into denial. And we

can experience this in situations of

where there's illness in our life in in

someone's life that is very close to us.

There's death in the family. There's a

marriage that um doesn't work out and so

on. We can carry on. But the first thing

that we do is that we go into denial.

Denial says, "I do not believe. I cannot

believe. This is happening to me. I've

been serving the Lord for so many years

and so long. I'm devoted to to my faith

and so on. And then all of a sudden

things go um wrong in your life. It is

not according to what you would have

thought it will go. And then you sit and

denial. The second thing that is going

to happen is that you will go into self

talk.

Self talk is exactly where you're going

to experience that you're either going

to accept or you're going to reject with

what has happened to you. Remember I

said to you, this is a point where you

become so emotional in in that emotional

state. But before you go into that

state, you need to make um a decision

whether you're going to accept or going

to reject what has happened to you. If

you accept what's going to happen to

you, you're going to fall into your

emotional state. This is where things

are going in the wrong direction.

But if you do not accept of that, if you

reject what has happened to you and you

go and sometimes get someone to help you

out of that position, but then you go

back to your rational

decision making level. And this is where

we need to to stay in. But I know

because we're humans it is not always

going to be possible. We're going to

fail somewhere along the line.

But in that self talk, um, this is in

also what we call the alpha wavelength

that we are created in. This is where

you talk to yourself and you make sense

of try to make sense of what has

happened with you at that point in time.

But if self talk doesn't work

and you're going to accept with what has

happened to you and you start to fall

down in a downwill downw uh spiral on

into the emotional level, then you're

going to start to bargain.

You're going to start to bargain with

many people. If someone is ill, um, you

might even, people might even start to

to bargain with the Lord.

They might say, "Lord,

if you bring my family member back, if

you bring my father, my mother, my

husband, wife, children or who it is, if

you bring them back for me, I will serve

you all my lifelong."

You see, and this is where we sometimes

will start to bargain with not only the

Lord but with people um to make sure

that uh you know we can get the result

that we need to better our lives. But

the fact is if bargaining doesn't work

which is the third step then you're

going to go over into a fourth step and

that is bitterness.

If you start to be to be bitter, bitter

is putting you in a fighting mode

because you don't you the bargaining

didn't work, the self talk, you in a

state of mind that you feel that you're

you in your emotional level are in in a

state that you don't know how to get out

of it. Then you're going to start to

become um in a state where you are in a

fighting mode

because bargaining didn't help. You will

go in your first state which is then

your unforgiveness

state.

Now if you look at at the Bible the

Bible never talks about unforgiveness to

us. You see, it is easy for us to make

up some words to suit

who we think we are. But who we are is a

child of Christ.

And if we say we in the presence of the

Holy Spirit, you must remember one

thing.

When we invite the Holy Spirit to be

part of our life

and we sing songs and we we pray to the

Lord and we say, "Lord, uh, fill this

atmosphere, be with me. Um, we we will

welcome you, Holy Spirit and we do all

those things. It is easy for us to do

that.

But sometimes we feel in that process

that we sit with that negative toxic

thinking patterns in our lives that the

Lord has forg forgot us.

But if you do not surrender to the Lord,

you're not going to experience

how the Holy Spirit

is filling that place. The Holy Spirit

is always there because remember one

thing about the Holy Spirit is

omnipresent. That's God omnipresent.

He's all over every place. So whether we

think we invite him, he's already there.

But if you do not surrender

to the Holy Spirit and you give

everything over to him, you're going to

walk around with bitterness and all

these negative toxic thinking patterns

in our brain. We'll get to all those

things later.

So unforgiveness

is not something that is biblical

because God says we must forgive.

And uh if you go into the word

unforgiveness um you're going to find

that there's a lot of

illnesses that comes from that. Once

again we'll talk about that a little bit

later. Hopefully we we'll get to that

tonight. But it's important to for us to

understand unforgiveness bring these

toxic thinking patterns that burns into

your brain. And when you've got um a

negative aspect or negative traumatic

event that is happening with you and

there's bitterness and uh because

bargaining didn't work and you've got

this unforgiveness in in your brain.

In your brain, you've got two uh lobes

on your left and right lob

in between you've got and we'll see if

you go scroll down to um the the brain

that I showed you that I'm showing you

there, you'll see that in that brain

that we call the Corpious Colossum.

We once again we'll talk about that a

little bit later. But the minute you

make a decision

that in that Corpious Colossom we fire

up into your brain that toxic thought

that actually goes into your longterm

memory and it starts to build a thought

in your brain. Once again, we're going

to get to that. There's so many things

that we still need to get to to for you

to understand all everything that

happens in your soul's dimension if we

are in this state. But if that negative

toxic um chemical that is actually

secreted is called protein synthesicist.

If you go to the to the slide where

you'll see there it looks like a little

cocoons and the one it's it's got a

green cocoon. You'll see the one with a

green. That's not actually how your

brain looks on the inside because you it

is gray matter. You don't see it in

color like it is but it is just the

illustration for you to see exactly what

happens in your brain. So if I take you

and I do and we do a MRI scan on your

brain, we're going to show you exactly

where all your good and all your bad

memories are because the bad toxic

thinking patterns has got that like the

green one all that um uh like look like

thorns on your brain on your on your

thinking pattern. So it's important that

we must get rid of all this

unforgiveness that is in our hearts. Ok.

Deuteronomy 28 is a magnificent part of

the Bible that teaches us so many things

in our lives that we need to make sure

that we abide to because from verse 1 to

verse 15 it tells you about the

blessings of God. If we follow in the

presence of God, those are the blessings

that we're going to experience.

Uh that's until verse 14. From verse 15

to verse 65, you're going to see all the

curses of God. If we do not uh attribute

our life to the Lord and we continue in

all the bad things in life like anxiety,

fear, stress um and and bitterness,

unforgiveness, hatred and and all those

negative things in our lives. If we

attribute our life to it and we don't

get out of that negative thinking

patterns, there is all the sicknesses

that in the Bible today, you're going to

find or in this world rather, you're

going to find them from verse 15 to

verse 65. And I'm going to show you all

the illnesses in the Bible in the world

that's there. Now, just to ask you a

question and I want you to answer it.

Although this is a video, I want some of

you to in the discussions afterwards to

discuss what I'm saying to you now. Why

is there um uh that did he Jesus Christ

get 39 lashes

and not 40? Not 41, not 42, only 39.

And I'll give you the answer. Now, the

reason is because God is so meticulous

and what he does that he even when his

son was chastised for our iniquities,

Jesus took 39 lashes. And if you go into

all the medical field and you do your

research, there's 39 main illnesses in

this world.

That is why that is why the Bible says

by my stripes you are healed. All the

other illnesses that we find in this

world is um underneath all that 39

main illnesses that we find.

Isn't that amazing? Are we not serving

just in an amazing God that is so

meticulous

when he has woven us together, when he

has put us together, when he made man,

it just not made us just to say I've

made someone. But he was very meticulous

in what he did and he knew what is going

to happen. That is why he formed us

according to his will and his purpose in

our lives. And when we abide in his

will, in his purpose, and we follow the

will of God and we do and we search for

the will of God, you will see that your

life is in a different way together.

Now if we look at the fifth one,

unforgiveness, remember I said there is

a toxic thinking pattern that is in your

brain. The minute that protein

synthesicis latches onto that toxic

thinking pattern, you're going to start

to meditate. You're going to think about

that that negative aspect or the person

or whoever it is or whatever the

situation is, you're going to think

about it. And once you start to think

about it, that toxic thought is going to

grow and grow and eventually it is going

to make you a negative person. And once

that has make made you a negative person

because of that toxic thought in your

brain, you're going to find that you're

going to look at the world through that

through that um glasses.

That is how you're g to perceive the

world. Negative.

That is why we need to make sure that we

get a rid of of unforgiveness that is in

our heart. We'll get back to that one as

well because there are many things that

we're going to say about that about what

is happening in the heart. The next

thing that we need to deal with and the

sixth thing is the resentment because if

unforgiveness doesn't work then you're

going to start to resent

the whatever person it is or whatever

situation it is. But the minute there's

a person involved, then you're going to

talk uh to think on that toxic thought

the whole time and you going to resent

that person if it is a person that

brought all that negative aspects in

your in your life. If there's a

hijacking, if you think about that

person of the hijacking, there's a

negative soul tie with that person. You

need for someone to help you to break

that so that you can carry on with your

life. You see resentment all that does

it keeps unforgiveness alive in your

life. That's all it does. It's got no

other purpose really.

It helps you to keep unforgiveness alive

in your life and then

you will flow into the following one.

The seventh one. You're going to start

to retaliate.

If you have thought so long onto this

negative thinking uh pattern or this

negative aspect that has happened with

you, you're going to feel that whoever

brought this into your life, if it is

another person that person needs to

suffer, that person you need to

retaliate against that person for what

he or she did to you.

See, instead of us taking this to the

father, instead of us talking to the

Lord about this, instead of us allowing

the Holy Spirit, if we say welcome Holy

Spirit and we handle things out of our

own way, our own thinking patterns, we

came to deal with it just as a human

does, ashuman nature tells us. But the

minute that we allow the Holy Spirit and

we say, "Lord, I surrender to you and

something like this happens to you, all

that you're going to do is you're going

to deal with it according to the way

that the Lord shows us that is with

mercy.

If we've got mercy in our lives, this

will not happen with us. If we allow the

Holy Spirit to lead us, if we allow our

body to be given over as a holy

sacrifice to the Lord, if we allow to

our bodies to be surrendered to the

Lord, then we're going to not sit with

retaliation or any of that negative

resentments or things in our lives.

See if you in retaliation

and you feel that this perpetrator

needs to experience what you have

experienced because of what he did in

your life, you're going to go over to

the eighth

um point of this uh situation that we

should not be in it and that is anger.

So retaliation

is going to take you into anger. Anger

all that it is it is bitterness,

unforgiveness, resentment and

retaliation in action. That is all it

is.

That will the that will fire up another

emotion in you. And that emotion is the

ninth one. That is hatred. Can you see

only now you start to hate

because you felt that I'm angry. I've

got the right to be angry.

The Bible says be angry but don't let

the sun go down on your anger. We'll get

to that one as well. So it's important

for us to understand when the Bible says

something to us we must take it

seriously. We cannot say that we that we

cannot forgive. I will not forgive but

yet we expect the Lord to forgive us.

Now that is the ninth one. Hatred then

we get to number 10.

Hatred

on the fire and the petrol on the fire

is that you're going to become violent.

Now, can you see where we're getting to?

We're getting to the place of your

reactionary level. That is where you

start to react

on what has happened in your life from a

rational to emotional. And now all of a

sudden we in this reactionary level.

This is where you become violent.

Violent all that it is is hatred and and

anger in action. That's all it is.

The final fruit of violence is murder.

That is a point where you don't return.

That is a point where you listen to no

one. That is a place where in a lot of

times you don't even

go to the Holy Spirit or you don't speak

to Jesus about this situation. You will

deal with it.

You won't allow anyone to interfere in

your decision making level there because

all calminates around you. No one is

important at that point for you. It's

only you. You make the decisions. And

this is where unfortunately

murder is committed,

suicide is committed. Family families

are actually ripped apart because too

many people are operating in this level

whereas they need to get someone to help

them. Someone that is willing to spend

some time with them. Someone that is

willing to listen to that person.

Someone that knows what the Bible says

and how to deal with the situation. But

the problem is if we in that situation,

we tend not to listen to people at all.

We don't even in the a situation like

that, a lot of people don't even listen

to the Holy Spirit because it's all

about themselves. They want to get out

of the situation and I don't believe no

one can help them

but there is help.

And the Holy Spirit, God almighty, Jesus

Christ is there for us at any point in

our life. We just need to submit ourself

to their authority, to the laws of

authority and allow him to work in our

lives. You see, and when you come to

this situation, you don't even realize

that Satan has already entered your

life. And at this point there's such a

chemical imbalance in our lives that

Satan will lodge a full scale attack on

your body. Not only on your body as a

person but even on your health.

And that we're going to deal with in the

next session. We're going to deal with

that. Now, if we read a passage in the

Bible, Romans 19, sorry, Romans 12 verse

um 19 to 21. And I just wan to get this

here quickly and uh read it for us.

says beloved never avenge yourselves but

leave the way open for god's wth and his

and his righteousness for it is written

in scripture venges his mind I will

repay says the lord verse 20 but if your

enemy is hungry feed him if he is

thirsty give him a drink

For by doing this you will heap wooden

colds on his head. Verse 21.

Do not overcome

and conquer by evil, but overcome evil

with good. You see, this is what we as

children of God need to understand that

when we are in the presence of the

father, the son and the holy spirit that

we must overcome this world because

Jesus has already done it. We are

walking in his righteousness. If we, as

I said previously, if we submit

ourselves, if we uh allow the Holy

Spirit to be in our lives, we cannot but

to stand in the presence of God and have

mercy for people around us. This world

is in chaos. This world is not in a

place that we would like it to be. But

you must understand one thing. Read

Matthew 24. And there are many

scriptures I can give you now.

This is all in the plan of God

where we are now at the moment.

All that I want you to know is that it's

important at this point for us to

understand how the body, soul and spirit

interactively work together. And what

the only

situation is that can relieve you from

this world situations or the conditions

or the chaos in this world is the

presence of the Holy Spirit

in your life. You must surrender today.

Make a decision

and even the people that you speak to to

totally surrender. Don't surrender only

part of your life. and say Lord you can

have 95% but this I'm in charge.

Remember I showed you last week if

there's compartments in your life,

family, friends, family or wages or

whatever you finances, whatever you wan

to call it

and you start to look at whether your

life is committed to God, yes or no then

you can see where you need to work at

and what you need to work at.

in order for you to be to to come closer

to God. You cannot hold anything back.

If we we're going to carry on with this

uh how this interactive

working is between the body, soul and

spirit. Now I've

a long time ago, I think it was still in

my master's degree, I've actually sat

down and I looked at the what the

clinical psychologist um talking about,

BTSD, OCD, ADD, ADHD and all those

things that they talk about. And what my

intention was with this is to see

what the world calls

and we in the in the in the church call

sin.

Um what is the closest definition that I

could get to of what the clinical

psychologist find in all those well and

many more that I've mentioned the

closest that I could get is OCD

obsessive compulsive disorder. Now let

me show you why I'm saying this. OCD per

definition is a principle of habitation.

It is a fear to cause harm to one self

and to others.

Then in essence, sin may have the same

effect on a person as OCD

in the psych of a person. Because sin

per definition is a principle of

habitation which may cause the

individual to condemn him or herself and

even to harm him or self or the

individual himself.

So Satan if you look at what we are

looking at here now at the moment um is

that sin is a habitation in our lives.

Someone that smokes it's habit for them.

Someone that drinks it's habit for them.

We're going to get back to those things

as well.

Someone that use drugs. It is a habit

for them. So sin is a is a principle of

habitation.

What is the essence? What is the

definition of sin? If you could

sum up uh sin in one word, what is that?

I call it rebellion. What does the Bible

say about rebellion?

1 Samuel 15:23

says, "And rebellion is as witchcraft

and and idolatry is as

self-righeousness."

Can you see once again the Bible calls

it is as witchcraft

we cannot commit sins and think it's

okay. We cannot carry on with sin in our

life and think it is fine because the

Lord says he's a gracious God. He's

going to forgive us yet. Romans 6 verse

1 says, "Shall we sin more so that the

grace can become more?" That is

paraphrasing. Now, verse two, Paul

says, "Certainly not. You cannot sin

more so that the grace can become more."

We cannot do that. We must stay away

from sin as much as as far as possible.

You seean,

what his main purpose is is to sever the

relationship that you have got with God.

He he hates God with everything in him.

And because he hates God and God

rejected him from as Lucifer, remember

if you read

in in Ezekiel 28, you're going to see

that he was in the in the heavens. And

we all know it. He was in the heaven but

he was rejected by God.

So

God created man. And when God created

man in his image, Satan

hates us because God has given the

authority to us that he would desire. He

wanted to be like God, but we are

created in the image of God and

therefore he's going to attack the image

that is in you as a person to sever that

relationship that you have with God. He

doesn't want to for you to have that

relationship and he's going to use

different ways and means for that

relationship to be severed. I'm going to

deal with two um issues now.

Rejection.

If we look at rejection

that is the highest form of evil on this

earth.

There are in our

congregations, in our uh communities

where we live in this world,

>> we see that there are a lot of rejection

that's taking place.

Rejection

is directly against the love of God.

A person that is feeling rejected

doesn't feel loved.

So therefore we need to make sure that

rejection

are dealt with very quick.

There was a woman one day

that was in the institution hier in

Peter Madersburg.

And dr. Gerrard van

had some people that he trained as

counselors and one of the ladies that

was um in his training session

said that she wants to do a bit more.

She can't just sit and hope people will

come to see her. She went to the

institution in Peter Madisburg and this

is a true story.

As she came to Peter Madersburg to the

matron,

eventually after a long story, she got

uh the people allow to go in and speak

to people in the institution.

And as she was walking down with two of

the gods because they were there to help

and protect her as well.

As she was walking past this one

specific door, she felt an urge from the

Holy Spirit

to stop and go and pray for that person

or speak to that person in that behind

that door. She never knew who it was,

whether it was a man or a lady. She

never knew.

And when she said to the gods that's

actually um with her, they both said,

"Not even a man dares go into that into

that uh chamber alone. They always go to

two to because that is a woman sitting."

And as she came in,

the Holy Spirit led,

they said, "Don't even dare and touch

this woman because he's a dangerous

person.

And as she came into that room,

she stood behind this woman. This woman

was sitting staring out of that window

and that's the posture she's got for the

day. She hardly ever moves from from

that position.

And as she stood behind this woman,

she said this. God said, "I must tell

you he loves you."

That woman turns around

and she was started crying.

And she said to the lady that came to

visit, she says, "It's the first time in

my life that anyone told me

that they love me." She's never heard

those words.

She's never experienced the love. But

you see, this counselor

was actually portraying the love of God

to this woman. She's experienced that.

So

that woman that was in that institution

in Durb today

has got her own counseling rooms

because God healed her from the spirit

of rejection. Very important for us to

understand.

But if you look at this rejection,

families are ridiculed with the spirit

of rejection. Families feel

torn apart because of this rejection.

Children stand up against their parents

in the homes today. Fathers and mothers

are uh standing up against each other.

Friends and families all over this world

are experiencing rejection.

There are even people in our churches

today that are experiencing rejection.

You see, the minute that there's a click

in a church, the minute people

form a click, they don't allow no one

into that circle of friendship. That is

rejection that people experience.

We are not allowed to do that. We cannot

do that.

The jails are full of people that are

experiencing dejection in their lives.

To give you an example, Westville prison

has got prison uh jail where there are

hardened criminals um and there's men

and women in this. There are juveniles

in this uh in this these jails as well.

not together they've got their own cell

blocks.

Now in this place they've got the

juvenile boys and the juvenile girls.

They didn't

they looked at um to see if what the

spirit of rejection does to people.

And they've given one Christmas a

postcard to all the girls. Two postcards

to the girls. One for the father and one

for the mother. And they gave a post two

postcards to the boys. One for the

father and one for the mother.

And with that exception, all the girls

whose fathers were still alive

rode postcards to their fathers and

their mothers.

Once again, without exception,

the boys

only wrote postcards to their mothers,

not a single postcard to the father.

Why? Because they felt rejected by their

fathers.

If I start to tell you what I

experienced,

how people are healed when the spirit of

rejection is lifted over their lives, it

is amazing to see the transformation

that God brings about in that person's

life. That is why it's important that we

must understand when jails are filled

with people that are rejected. There are

just as many people and even though not

more people that that is rejected in

their families and where do they land

up? They land up in the street and

eventually that rejection is going to

take them in a spiral downwards where

they're going to start to use drugs.

That is to selfmedicate. That is to get

out of that position or that feeling.

But yet that rejection is not gone.

It is still there.

I said last week to the church when I

spoke to them about the fire of God

is that if this generation tolerates a

sin,

the next generation is going to

celebrate that sin and the generation

following that

is not even going to know it's a sin

anymore.

Let us not

have a generation that doesn't know what

sin is anymore. Let us make sure as the

parents and the great the grandparents

and the great g and parents that listen

to this message today, let us ensure

that we listen to what the word of God

tells us to do.

Rejection must not be part of our family

or the church at last or the

communities. If there's something that

you must pray against

when you in your prayer closet is to

pray against this spirit of rejection.

Satan has got no legal right over us or

the families.

Families are torn apart because of this

rejection.

I can carry on a long time about the

spirit of rejection because it's

something that I've seen how it actually

was tear is te staring apart. Families

and congregations and uh and uh

communities are things are going in a

wrong direction because of that.

Then the second thing

is self-condemnation.

That is very interesting. What does the

Bible teach us? You see, we we know

about self-condemnation.

Yet we condemn ourselves a lot of times

about things that is happening in our

lives.

But what does the Bible say

in in Romans 8:1? I can quote it for

you. I know it by heart in Afrikaans. So

if I make a mistake in English, um just

read it in there. Says there's no no um

condemnation for those that is in

Christ, not for those that is in the

world but in the spirit.

If you in the spirit of God, there's no

condemnation

because Jesus Christ has taken that

condemnation. He has taken all the sins

of this world on him. You don't need to

feel condemned.

You don't need to feel rejected.

What you need to do is to understand

that we are in the spirit with God. If

we are in the spirit then there's no

condemnation that can take chance of

your life. Nothing.

can take you away from the love of God.

You see, the minute that you've got

condemnation in your life, then fear is

going to be in your life. And you know

what the problem is with fear? Fear's

got the possibility of closing you up

that you can't hear God's voice anymore

because you are concentrating so much on

that fear that is brought into your life

that you battle to hear the voice of

God. So that closes your ears up.

It makes your brain foggy. You cannot

think in your souls dimension anymore.

You cannot be creative the way you

should be. You cannot concentrate

anymore.

I'm going to speak to you later. What's

happening in your body?

We busy with a soul's dimension still.

That is why it's important that you do

not fear. God says to us that he hasn't

given us a fear, a spirit of fear,

but of power, a sound mind and of love.

That is what God has given you. Fear is

from the devil.

Once again, I'm going to explain you

later on, but next week I'm going to

explain you exactly how fear is is uh

created in your body.

So then also what this

self-condemation brings over your body

is stress.

That definitely next week I'm going to

deal with the three levels of stress. If

you if you hear what that three that

levels of stress does to your body,

you're going to refrain from anyone from

any type of stress in your body. You're

going to try your utmost best because

there's two ways that Satan wants to

attack your body. He's want to attack

you through your blood and he's going to

attack you through your immune system.

Next week I'm going to show you how it

does it and how it does it through

stress.

Stress is outside force that interface

with who you are. It impedes

the in the way that you need to go. So

when stress interferes with you, you're

going to find that you cannot move.

I'll do tell you this week next week

again. But remember

all the um the gentlemen and the ladies

that maybe the ladies did it as well. I

don't know. But the gentlemen, when we

were small, you had these wind up cars

that you wind up and as you wind them up

and you try to wind it up so much

sometimes that that little springs

sometimes breaks but if you put that car

down, that car shoots out

on its own because it is you you

actually wand it up to to the extent

that it can go very far.

But

surely we've done this. I've done it is

that you wind that car but then you

press it down. You see that press down

on that car will allow that car not to

move anymore.

And if that car doesn't move, that's

exactly what happens with you when

you've got stress in your life. Because

stress always come from the outside.

Doesn't come from inside.

inside of yourself. It is from outside

source that brings that stress over your

body. And if there's stress over your

body, your body battles to work the way

it showed that God has designed you to

to work.

Then all of a sudden things happen in

your body. Now once again next week

we're going to deal with that and it's

going to be very interesting for you to

hear this.

When they self-condemnation,

Satan will always put

some weights on your on your body, on

your legs and in your spirit

so that you cannot proceed and finish

this race that Paul talk about. You're

going to throw in the towel.

You're going to become tired

because you see once you feel that

there's stress, anxiety and fear and all

these things in your life, you're going

to see that or think that that line

where you need to cross,

where you need to finish is just get

further and further and further. You

battle to get to a situation where you

can stay in your lane and see that

winning line is close because the Lord

is is there. But when we start to fear

and we close ourselves for the presence

or the um of the Holy Spirit in our

lives and we can't hear the Holy Spirit

anymore,

then you'll find that that line just get

further and further for you.

And if you give heat to Satan

and what he does in your life, you're

going to start

to

get excuses

for those things that you know is not

right in your life.

You're going to want to feel

self-righteousness

in the excuses that you've made for the

sin that you commit in your life.

want to use all those excuses

just as a way of saying

but it's because of this or that has

happened in my life that I'm doing it.

We've got no excuse to commit a sin.

We've got no excuse

to actually be fearful or to be anxious

or to have all this stress in our lives.

You need to be free in the Lord. You

need to experience the presence of God

changes your life. Now let's quickly

look at we don't have much time left now

but we can continue. We got um it's

quite a bit to deal with. Let's quickly

look at how Satan can get it right

for

a committed Christian to even commit sin

in their lives. Remember

verse that we use Isaiah 4:6 my people

perish due to a lack of knowledge and I

believe that's my opinion you might

differ from me

but I hope it's not because this is the

truth that I always have been working in

I believe that this this knowledge that

you and I as a Christian must get and to

know how the body soul and spirit

interactively are working together and

how the different wavelength that you

and I have how we function in that you

and I need to know who is communicating

with us

you must differentiate

where this communication is coming from

who talks to you there's four voices

that speaks to you

the world's voice

And the world's voice is through all

this different communication systems and

um all the cell phones and the laptops

and the computers and all those things

the TV and and the videos and the films

that the people are looking at that is

communicating with you.

Then secondly

it is your own voice.

Now I always say this. Don't go and look

for a devil behind every bush.

It's all sake.

But that is very true for us. Too many

people blame the devil for things that

is going wrong in their life. You must

understand it's not the devil's fault

always. Sometimes is your own thinking

that brought you into that situation.

So it's the world

through the technology of this world or

your own way of thinking or Satan.

that can give you a negative thought

or it can be the Lord that gives you the

thoughts of how to uh live your life

according to his will. So you've got

four. Who is talking to you?

Between 87 and 95% of all the illnesses

that you go to the doctor today has

started with its root that is manifested

um because of your thinking pattern

manifested into your body. I'm going to

show you and this is why we talk about

the body, soul, spirit connection. Why

it is like that? Ok.

Proverbs 23:7 says, "As a man think in

his heart, so is he."

Proverbs 17:22 says, "And I'm going to

read it for you from the Amplified. I've

got it in the Afrikaans but I'll I'll

read it for you in in the um in the

amplified.

Says a happy heart is good medicine and

a joyful mind causes healing. But a

broken spirites up the bone. Remember

that verse. Go and read that verse.

Proverbs 17:22.

We're going to deal with it next week.

And I'm going to show you why that verse

and what medical truths are in that

verse for us. God has given us a

magnificent body with a magnificent

word.

If we start to delve into the word of

God and we listen to what the word of

God wants to teach us,

your body can heal.

But you see we don't do that. We need to

make sure

that the influence of the Holy Spirit

is in our lives to the extent that our

bodies heal because we have presented

our bodies as a living sacrifice to him.

You need to understand the difference

in your body, your soul. and your

spirit, but also understand how they

interactively work together. And I think

I'm going to close off for tonight

because there is so much more that I

want to speak to you about next week and

uh I hope we can get through everything

quicker. But uh may the Lord bless you.

May the Lord keep you and may his face

shine upon you.

Shalom.

I wanted to say thank you very much for

your patience. I know this is not an

ideal setup but it was a once off. for

paying attention and listening. I just

want to say something on the question

that he asked earlier about the lashes

that Jesus endured. So for those of you

don't know, according to the Jewish

tradition and you can go and read this

in the book of Deuteronomy, it's chapter

25

round about verse 3. It actually says

that according to the Jewish custom they

could not give more than 40 lashes. That

was um the law. So they stopped at 39

just in case they miscounted or they did

something incorrect. So they would

normally give 39 lashes. That is Jewish

custom. But then remember that Jesus was

crucified according to Roman tradition

and there was not a cap on the amount of

lashes that he could have received. So

there's no place in the Bible that it

actually says the amount of lashes that

Jesus endured. So that's one of those

topics that's up for discussion. Some

people say it's 40, some say it's 39,

some say it's more. But it doesn't

stipulate that within the word. It only

says that um you can go and read John

191, Matthew 27:26.

It just said that Jesus was scorched. He

was lashed.

Ok, I just wanted to clear that up for

you. So if you do have any questions

based on tonight's session, please write

them down right now otherwise you will

forget them. And then next week when we

get together, we will give a few

moments. If there are questions then you

can ask that to Dr. Bart and then we

will continue with the next class. Is

there anything that anyone would like to

say before we end off for this evening?

Lady,

>> Lady Melinde. Yes. I just want to add to

what you said is when you look at Paul

um he was actually

um alsoed I think three or four times if

I can remember right. And um that makes

it absolutely

defiled in in the sense of he wasn't

unreizely beaten and um Jesus was

unrecognizedly beaten. So just that um

we can see that he

took a lot of more stripes um then

pulled it. So I just that and I had also

a few conversations quite a while back a

few years back with um pharmac

pharmacist and doctors and you know the

the doctrine of there's only three 39

um medical conditions is actually not

correct. Um there's actually more. So I

believe Jesus took more for everything

and um that that is a doctrine that's

been taught that is not actually

correct. So I do agree with you.

>> Thank you Lady Vanessa. Yes bottom line

for everyone. Jesus healed us and

everything is in him. That's the bottom

line. All right. I um just wan to say we

will meet again on Thursday morning for

Dr. Petra's Klaas. And I would like to

ask um Lady Dedy, will you please end

off for us in prayer this evening.

>> Thank you Lord for the privilege that we

had to that we could come together

tonight and thank you for everything

that we learn. Um it is so valuable and

it's a big um privilege for us to learn.

Go with us tonight. Let us all have a

good night sleep and bring us back all

together Thursday morning for the next

class. Thank you for your love and your

protection. Amen.

>> Thank you. Have a blessed evening

everyone. See you Thursday morning. Bye

bye.

Bye everyone. Bye bye everybody. Bye

>> bye. Bye bye everybody.