The 2022 Housing Market Collapse | The Truth.
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hey everyone me kevin here in this video
we're going to talk about the housing
market i haven't done a housing market
update in a while and y'all know real
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the housing market okay so a few things
we got to talk about all right so
housing headwinds we want to talk about
positives and negatives and how these
things might affect the market so first
of all there's a lot of doom and gloom
about the repo market about how oh once
mortgage forbearance is up everybody's
going to get foreclosed on look i called
this nonsense during the pandemic
because quite frankly it is nonsense
most people going through mortgage
forbearance aren't getting foreclosed on
afterwards they're adding to the loan
they're they're forbeared money
basically to the back of their loan and
potentially they're even refinancing
from 30-year fixed rate debt to 40-year
fixed rate debt effectively lowering
their monthly payment it's kind of like
having a
let's say a seven year car loan versus a
three-year car loan your payment's a lot
less right sam and you pay more interest
over the life of loan but your payment
goes down so really we're not expecting
like a boom in foreclosures from the
pandemic and quite frankly the data is
showing that right now we've had uh 23
203
foreclosure starts in january those
don't necessarily mean that they will
translate into foreclosures but those
have started the legal proceedings
oftentimes when people see foreclosure
they start paying their mortgage so this
doesn't necessarily mean you're going to
get this kind of inventory on the market
but uh this is
this seems like it's up a lot in fact a
lot of the sort of fear mongers like to
say oh my gosh foreclosure starts are at
23 000 they're up from 10 000
foreclosure starts have doubled since
you know and then they'll pick some date
during the pandemic like june or july
2020 when we had foreclosure bans right
i mean you could say oh my gosh we're up
400 from certain periods of time during
the pandemic but this is stupid we
should be comparing two before the
pandemic and we actually have 50 percent
fewer foreclosure starts
today in this january uh of 2022 than we
had in 2020 so way way fewer repos now
we are starting to see some headwinds
for housing starts a lot of this in my
opinion has to do with lumber so for
example the canadian housing market had
uh housing starts fall about three
percent in december
and uh we have a lot of numbers coming
out this friday in the united states
we're expecting housing starts to
actually fall as much as 7.2 in january
in the united states and existing home
sales to come in 1.3 percent on a month
over month decline we're expecting this
decline here so existing home sales
likely to decline this friday and uh
housing starts expected decline quite a
bit part of this has to do with the fact
that lumber's been skyrocketing we just
saw lumber skyrocket 10 in just the last
two weeks alone a cnbc released an
article today talking about how this is
adding about nineteen thousand dollars
to the cost of a home which keep in mind
the median home price in america is
about three hundred fifty thousand
dollars so that's a that's a pretty
pretty penny there i mean that's that's
a big part of the profit margin for a
lot of these companies and lumber prices
have just gone to the moon uh so so here
are some things to consider here are
some other things to consider over here
though is that right now we have 11.3
fewer listings year over year which when
you have less inventory it well less
supply means more demand right and
prices actually get driven up so even
though we're seeing a little bit of a
slowdown in new builds we're not seeing
new inventory from foreclosures and
we're actually selling we're listing
fewer homes compared to 2021 so in other
words that's supportive to home prices
still going up i mean less inventory
it's more expensive to build homes it's
gotten so expensive to build homes we're
actually building less of them so less
inventory again less inventory actually
coming on the market uh and so of course
prices are right now trending nowhere
but up uh we've also we're flat on the
pending sales territory which means we
haven't seen pending sales fall because
of prices going up this would mean well
if we saw pending sales fall it would
mean that buyers are starting to say you
know what it's getting too pricey to buy
we can't keep buying you start seeing
pending sales fall that's a little bit
of a red flag of a market starting to
cool
now we did have eight point nine percent
fewer sales in january though that is uh
also just like this flat pending sales
here this is a little bit of a sign of
potentially a little bit of relaxation
from buyers but it could be because our
supply is lower and that's a little bit
of a problem because not only is our
supply lower but prices are up about
almost 14 year over year so we're not
seeing much movement in pending sales
coming down price is up 14
as a result we've had about nine percent
fewer sales and we're listing fewer
properties and all of this together this
entire little section here together
along with less repos and less starts
and higher lumber prices all of this
means bottom line less
supply and the assumption here is that
this is going to increase prices but
there's a problem and we're always going
to talk about problems okay
what makes prices go down well
mortgage rates so when mortgage rates go
up they put downward pressure on prices
and we've got a little bit of an issue
here okay so what we're gonna do is
we're gonna look at the brown here the
brown shows us what's happened with
mortgage rates just since december 31st
we've gone from a 30-year fixed at about
2.8 to a 30-year fixed at 3.9 percent
and we don't expect this pace to slow
down this has already slowed down the
number of people refinancing homes less
refinances
might potentially lead some folks to
sell but we don't really have a good
correlation there less refinances
usually just means people have less cash
to buy other things like potentially
rental properties which could help
reduce some of the crazy demand we've
seen but could also mean people just
have less money to spend on boats or
cars or clothing or on stocks so we're
seeing refinances decline and this makes
sense there might be a brief surge of
refinances as some remaining people were
like crap i forgot to refinance at 2.8
let me quickly refinance at 3.9 before
we go up to 5
that could happen so there could be a
little brief surge in refinances but
like i mentioned here we're already
seeing mortgage applications fall about
8.1 percent so this is going to give us
even though we've still got this tight
supply this is potentially going to
lower our buyer pool so potentially
fewer buyers here as these mortgage
applications are declining which makes
sense because rates are going up when
rates go up fewer people can afford to
buy now you do still have a lot of
buyers in the process in fact some
buyers who are pre-approved right now
are saying you know what i need to hurry
up and get in
before rates go up even more and this
makes a lot of sense so in the longer
term i'm going to put lt here longer
term you're going to see less buyers but
actually in the short term you're going
to see more buyers so you're going to
have this really weird thing happen in
the short term i expect to see more
buyers with less supply so higher prices
so prices
in the short term because of these
things probably up like if somebody's
wanting to sell a house now they could
probably still do quite well
in the longer term if we get less buyers
well then we get a question mark what do
prices do well it depends less buyers
but still increasingly less supply maybe
those balance each other out but let's
talk a little bit about rate trajectory
so for us to try to figure out where
rates could go we got to look back at
this chart and try to overlay it to what
happened in 2018. in 2018 the 10-year
treasury
went from 1.5
all the way up to about 3
right now the 10-year treasury sits
right here and mortgage rates 30-year
mortgage rates tend to trend with
the 10-year treasury so if we assume
that we follow the same pattern of what
happened in 2018 and the 10-year
treasury rate goes from 2 which remember
it was just 1.5 december 31st it
skyrocketed to 2.04
today and if this goes all the way to 3
then we could reasonably expect mortgage
rates to go to about 5
this is what happened in 2018. now what
implication did this have on pricing
remember in 2018 we didn't have high
inflation we didn't have recessionary
fears right now markets are pricing in
the potential for a 50 chance of
recession over the next year that's
quite substantial we didn't actually
have those fears in 2018 and we had
rates rising in a non-inflationary time
and inflation was like one and a half
percent no big deal it was just a matter
of trying to get back to a normal policy
stance now if we looked at 2018 as the
most recent example of hikes in the
10-year treasury when we last went to
about a three percent 10-year treasury
we know that mortgage rates ran to about
five percent got it so what did that do
in the real estate market well in the
very very short term in the span of two
months real estate prices lost about 12
from their peak in about two months but
that was very very very short term that
was for about six to ten weeks and we
started seeing a rebound so this was
actually really neat because by the end
of 2018 real estate prices ended up
three percent so even though we went
through this this maddening rise in
interest rates there was still so much
demand and enthusiasm and euphoria for
real estate the real estate still ended
the year up three percent and we did
actually start seeing rates normalized
closer to 4.25
to 4.5
now why is it that you could see such a
dramatic move in real estate prices well
because of a rule of 10x see when
interest rates go up
about one percent
we expect that purchasing power tends to
go down about 10
so for every one percentage point
increase in rates purchasing power based
on individuals mortgage their principal
interest taxes insurance and hoa dues
their purchasing power there for all
that together tends to go down about 10
so it made sense that when we saw this
1.2 percent skyrocket in rates that real
estate prices lost
instantly about 12 percent so active
listings had their deals canceled active
listings had to quickly reduce their
prices
and so we saw
some drama in the real estate market and
a lot of this unfolded really between
may and september of 2018 and every area
reacted differently but as an active
real estate broker at the time this was
a very difficult summer
flips were difficult to sell it was very
difficult to sell anything at what
previous properties were selling for
because people just couldn't afford it
anymore
but again we still ended the year up
three percent so the question now is uh
what kind of headwind could we
potentially face and how is that going
to affect real estate for all of 2022 so
what's wild here is this was a move from
3.8 to 5 in 2018 but look at the move we
have right now this delta right here
that's this line right here this
difference
this line right here is a change of not
1.2 percent it's actually a change in
rates potentially
of 2.2 percent
we've already had the jump from 2.8 to
almost four so we've almost had this 1.2
percent bump in the span of six weeks
if we go to a three percent treasury
over the next two months as the federal
reserve starts hiking rates and maybe
potentially more rate hikes get priced
in we don't know if we're gonna hit that
three percent treasury but if we hit a
three percent treasury that would be a
two point two percent mortgage rate
shock uh and that could create a
potential negative twenty two percent
headwind to real estate and so now we
got to come back up here and say all
right in the short term we might see a
lot of buyer demand but in the long term
we might see less buyers in the market
we combine less buyers with less supply
maybe those balance out but do they
balance out to the tune of negative 22
if rates went this high maybe rates
maybe we'll only have that negative uh
that negative 12 percent uh you know
effect to pricing because interest rates
end up staying stable at about 3.9 to 4
percent where they are now that's
possible but if rates keep rising which
folks do expect that they will this this
is the range of our potential real
estate headwind now this doesn't
necessarily mean that prices are going
to end down
12 to 22 percent this year because look
at 2018 2018 we had this 12 temporary
shock and then we still ended the year
positive in real estate prices so this
does not necessarily mean real estate
prices are going to fall but this right
here is a huge headwind to real estate
and we will likely this year see a
headwind of between negative 12 to
negative 22
offset again by the fact that lumber's
more expensive and we have less supply
and fewer people are listing homes so
we've got some good news helping offset
this which is not such good news but
we've got some more problems the fact
that right now we have
an inflation issue in our country and a
wage price spiral that has started which
these issues could lead to a lot of fear
unfortunately in in our economy in
general
if we get fear and spending starts going
down it's likely that fearful folks will
also not turn out to be home buyers even
with slightly higher rates and if we
start seeing buyer demands soften
because folks fear that we are going to
go into a recession you could
potentially see a little bit of a
self-fulfilling prophecy here where
people think we're going into a
recession they think oh maybe now's not
a time to buy a house you see less
buyers and then you actually see these
price drops come to fruition and where
the real fear and panic comes is not
from my video here the real fear and
panic comes from tucker carlson telling
you home prices just went down three
percent in one month and that starts
leading people to wonder oh what's next
but i think that is only in the confl
i'm calling it the confluence of
recession scenario right now the
economy's killing it i mean q4 earnings
for companies were amazing people are
spending money like crazy they're
traveling like crazy disney airbnb
they're killing it sure there are some
signs that things might be settling down
and slowing down a little bit but the
economy is doing very very well the
question is will the economy continue to
do well
if the federal reserve gets really
really aggressive against inflation so
bottom line out of all of this you want
to know the one thing to pay attention
to in terms of what the real estate
market's going to do it's this right
here
that word inflation if inflation
continues to soar the fed has to get
more aggressive if the fed has to get
more aggressive this three percent
treasury becomes more of a reality and
when we get to three percent treasury in
a five percent over here we have a
higher likelihood of tucker carlson
telling you the bad news about real
estate prices and then potentially these
numbers here becoming a reality but
these will only become a reality in the
event that inflation ends up not being
transitory so if the federal reserve can
get inflation down by playing the wait
and see game supply chains catch up
everybody chills out about inflation
okay prices went up and we're good then
maybe things are okay because remember
this about inflation folks if i sell you
this pen
for
ten dollars
today and next year i sell you this pen
for eleven dollars
then we had ten percent inflation right
this was ten percent inflation
well if the year after that i'm still
selling the pen
for eleven dollars we actually had zero
percent inflation
so you really have to have increasing
prices on top of increasing prices for
this real this inflation to continue the
problem is right now
we we are seeing this
so we'll see where things go we're
hoping inflation starts peaking maybe in
february
maybe in march maybe in april if we
still have high inflation by then
these things are going to become an
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