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The 2022 Housing Market Collapse | The Truth.

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hey everyone me kevin here in this video

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the housing market okay so a few things

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we got to talk about all right so

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housing headwinds we want to talk about

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positives and negatives and how these

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things might affect the market so first

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of all there's a lot of doom and gloom

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about the repo market about how oh once

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mortgage forbearance is up everybody's

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going to get foreclosed on look i called

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this nonsense during the pandemic

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because quite frankly it is nonsense

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most people going through mortgage

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forbearance aren't getting foreclosed on

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afterwards they're adding to the loan

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they're they're forbeared money

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basically to the back of their loan and

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potentially they're even refinancing

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from 30-year fixed rate debt to 40-year

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fixed rate debt effectively lowering

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their monthly payment it's kind of like

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having a

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let's say a seven year car loan versus a

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three-year car loan your payment's a lot

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less right sam and you pay more interest

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over the life of loan but your payment

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goes down so really we're not expecting

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like a boom in foreclosures from the

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pandemic and quite frankly the data is

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showing that right now we've had uh 23

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203

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foreclosure starts in january those

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don't necessarily mean that they will

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translate into foreclosures but those

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have started the legal proceedings

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oftentimes when people see foreclosure

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they start paying their mortgage so this

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doesn't necessarily mean you're going to

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get this kind of inventory on the market

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but uh this is

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this seems like it's up a lot in fact a

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lot of the sort of fear mongers like to

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say oh my gosh foreclosure starts are at

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23 000 they're up from 10 000

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foreclosure starts have doubled since

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you know and then they'll pick some date

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during the pandemic like june or july

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2020 when we had foreclosure bans right

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i mean you could say oh my gosh we're up

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400 from certain periods of time during

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the pandemic but this is stupid we

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should be comparing two before the

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pandemic and we actually have 50 percent

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fewer foreclosure starts

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today in this january uh of 2022 than we

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had in 2020 so way way fewer repos now

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we are starting to see some headwinds

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for housing starts a lot of this in my

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opinion has to do with lumber so for

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example the canadian housing market had

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uh housing starts fall about three

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percent in december

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and uh we have a lot of numbers coming

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out this friday in the united states

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we're expecting housing starts to

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actually fall as much as 7.2 in january

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in the united states and existing home

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sales to come in 1.3 percent on a month

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over month decline we're expecting this

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decline here so existing home sales

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likely to decline this friday and uh

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housing starts expected decline quite a

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bit part of this has to do with the fact

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that lumber's been skyrocketing we just

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saw lumber skyrocket 10 in just the last

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two weeks alone a cnbc released an

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article today talking about how this is

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adding about nineteen thousand dollars

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to the cost of a home which keep in mind

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the median home price in america is

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about three hundred fifty thousand

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dollars so that's a that's a pretty

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pretty penny there i mean that's that's

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a big part of the profit margin for a

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lot of these companies and lumber prices

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have just gone to the moon uh so so here

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are some things to consider here are

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some other things to consider over here

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though is that right now we have 11.3

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fewer listings year over year which when

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you have less inventory it well less

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supply means more demand right and

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prices actually get driven up so even

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though we're seeing a little bit of a

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slowdown in new builds we're not seeing

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new inventory from foreclosures and

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we're actually selling we're listing

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fewer homes compared to 2021 so in other

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words that's supportive to home prices

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still going up i mean less inventory

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it's more expensive to build homes it's

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gotten so expensive to build homes we're

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actually building less of them so less

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inventory again less inventory actually

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coming on the market uh and so of course

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prices are right now trending nowhere

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but up uh we've also we're flat on the

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pending sales territory which means we

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haven't seen pending sales fall because

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of prices going up this would mean well

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if we saw pending sales fall it would

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mean that buyers are starting to say you

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know what it's getting too pricey to buy

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we can't keep buying you start seeing

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pending sales fall that's a little bit

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of a red flag of a market starting to

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cool

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now we did have eight point nine percent

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fewer sales in january though that is uh

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also just like this flat pending sales

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here this is a little bit of a sign of

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potentially a little bit of relaxation

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from buyers but it could be because our

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supply is lower and that's a little bit

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of a problem because not only is our

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supply lower but prices are up about

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almost 14 year over year so we're not

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seeing much movement in pending sales

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coming down price is up 14

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as a result we've had about nine percent

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fewer sales and we're listing fewer

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properties and all of this together this

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entire little section here together

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along with less repos and less starts

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and higher lumber prices all of this

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means bottom line less

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supply and the assumption here is that

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this is going to increase prices but

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there's a problem and we're always going

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to talk about problems okay

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what makes prices go down well

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mortgage rates so when mortgage rates go

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up they put downward pressure on prices

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and we've got a little bit of an issue

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here okay so what we're gonna do is

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we're gonna look at the brown here the

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brown shows us what's happened with

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mortgage rates just since december 31st

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we've gone from a 30-year fixed at about

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2.8 to a 30-year fixed at 3.9 percent

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and we don't expect this pace to slow

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down this has already slowed down the

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number of people refinancing homes less

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refinances

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might potentially lead some folks to

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sell but we don't really have a good

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correlation there less refinances

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usually just means people have less cash

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to buy other things like potentially

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rental properties which could help

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reduce some of the crazy demand we've

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seen but could also mean people just

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have less money to spend on boats or

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cars or clothing or on stocks so we're

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seeing refinances decline and this makes

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sense there might be a brief surge of

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refinances as some remaining people were

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like crap i forgot to refinance at 2.8

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let me quickly refinance at 3.9 before

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we go up to 5

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that could happen so there could be a

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little brief surge in refinances but

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like i mentioned here we're already

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seeing mortgage applications fall about

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8.1 percent so this is going to give us

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even though we've still got this tight

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supply this is potentially going to

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lower our buyer pool so potentially

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fewer buyers here as these mortgage

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applications are declining which makes

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sense because rates are going up when

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rates go up fewer people can afford to

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buy now you do still have a lot of

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buyers in the process in fact some

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buyers who are pre-approved right now

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are saying you know what i need to hurry

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up and get in

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before rates go up even more and this

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makes a lot of sense so in the longer

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term i'm going to put lt here longer

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term you're going to see less buyers but

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actually in the short term you're going

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to see more buyers so you're going to

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have this really weird thing happen in

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the short term i expect to see more

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buyers with less supply so higher prices

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so prices

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in the short term because of these

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things probably up like if somebody's

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wanting to sell a house now they could

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probably still do quite well

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in the longer term if we get less buyers

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well then we get a question mark what do

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prices do well it depends less buyers

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but still increasingly less supply maybe

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those balance each other out but let's

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talk a little bit about rate trajectory

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so for us to try to figure out where

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rates could go we got to look back at

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this chart and try to overlay it to what

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happened in 2018. in 2018 the 10-year

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treasury

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went from 1.5

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all the way up to about 3

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right now the 10-year treasury sits

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right here and mortgage rates 30-year

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mortgage rates tend to trend with

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the 10-year treasury so if we assume

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that we follow the same pattern of what

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happened in 2018 and the 10-year

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treasury rate goes from 2 which remember

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it was just 1.5 december 31st it

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skyrocketed to 2.04

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today and if this goes all the way to 3

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then we could reasonably expect mortgage

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rates to go to about 5

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this is what happened in 2018. now what

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implication did this have on pricing

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remember in 2018 we didn't have high

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inflation we didn't have recessionary

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fears right now markets are pricing in

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the potential for a 50 chance of

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recession over the next year that's

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quite substantial we didn't actually

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have those fears in 2018 and we had

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rates rising in a non-inflationary time

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and inflation was like one and a half

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percent no big deal it was just a matter

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of trying to get back to a normal policy

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stance now if we looked at 2018 as the

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most recent example of hikes in the

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10-year treasury when we last went to

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about a three percent 10-year treasury

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we know that mortgage rates ran to about

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five percent got it so what did that do

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in the real estate market well in the

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very very short term in the span of two

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months real estate prices lost about 12

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from their peak in about two months but

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that was very very very short term that

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was for about six to ten weeks and we

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started seeing a rebound so this was

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actually really neat because by the end

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of 2018 real estate prices ended up

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three percent so even though we went

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through this this maddening rise in

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interest rates there was still so much

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demand and enthusiasm and euphoria for

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real estate the real estate still ended

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the year up three percent and we did

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actually start seeing rates normalized

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closer to 4.25

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to 4.5

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now why is it that you could see such a

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dramatic move in real estate prices well

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because of a rule of 10x see when

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interest rates go up

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about one percent

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we expect that purchasing power tends to

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go down about 10

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so for every one percentage point

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increase in rates purchasing power based

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on individuals mortgage their principal

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interest taxes insurance and hoa dues

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their purchasing power there for all

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that together tends to go down about 10

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so it made sense that when we saw this

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1.2 percent skyrocket in rates that real

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estate prices lost

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instantly about 12 percent so active

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listings had their deals canceled active

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listings had to quickly reduce their

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prices

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and so we saw

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some drama in the real estate market and

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a lot of this unfolded really between

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may and september of 2018 and every area

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reacted differently but as an active

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real estate broker at the time this was

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a very difficult summer

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flips were difficult to sell it was very

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difficult to sell anything at what

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previous properties were selling for

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because people just couldn't afford it

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anymore

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but again we still ended the year up

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three percent so the question now is uh

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what kind of headwind could we

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potentially face and how is that going

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to affect real estate for all of 2022 so

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what's wild here is this was a move from

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3.8 to 5 in 2018 but look at the move we

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have right now this delta right here

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that's this line right here this

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difference

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this line right here is a change of not

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1.2 percent it's actually a change in

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rates potentially

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of 2.2 percent

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we've already had the jump from 2.8 to

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almost four so we've almost had this 1.2

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percent bump in the span of six weeks

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if we go to a three percent treasury

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over the next two months as the federal

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reserve starts hiking rates and maybe

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potentially more rate hikes get priced

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in we don't know if we're gonna hit that

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three percent treasury but if we hit a

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three percent treasury that would be a

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two point two percent mortgage rate

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shock uh and that could create a

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potential negative twenty two percent

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headwind to real estate and so now we

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got to come back up here and say all

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right in the short term we might see a

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lot of buyer demand but in the long term

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we might see less buyers in the market

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we combine less buyers with less supply

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maybe those balance out but do they

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balance out to the tune of negative 22

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if rates went this high maybe rates

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maybe we'll only have that negative uh

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that negative 12 percent uh you know

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effect to pricing because interest rates

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end up staying stable at about 3.9 to 4

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percent where they are now that's

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possible but if rates keep rising which

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folks do expect that they will this this

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is the range of our potential real

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estate headwind now this doesn't

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necessarily mean that prices are going

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to end down

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12 to 22 percent this year because look

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at 2018 2018 we had this 12 temporary

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shock and then we still ended the year

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positive in real estate prices so this

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does not necessarily mean real estate

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prices are going to fall but this right

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here is a huge headwind to real estate

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and we will likely this year see a

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headwind of between negative 12 to

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negative 22

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offset again by the fact that lumber's

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more expensive and we have less supply

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and fewer people are listing homes so

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we've got some good news helping offset

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this which is not such good news but

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we've got some more problems the fact

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that right now we have

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an inflation issue in our country and a

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wage price spiral that has started which

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these issues could lead to a lot of fear

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unfortunately in in our economy in

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general

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if we get fear and spending starts going

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down it's likely that fearful folks will

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also not turn out to be home buyers even

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with slightly higher rates and if we

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start seeing buyer demands soften

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because folks fear that we are going to

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go into a recession you could

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potentially see a little bit of a

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self-fulfilling prophecy here where

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people think we're going into a

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recession they think oh maybe now's not

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a time to buy a house you see less

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buyers and then you actually see these

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price drops come to fruition and where

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the real fear and panic comes is not

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from my video here the real fear and

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panic comes from tucker carlson telling

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you home prices just went down three

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percent in one month and that starts

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leading people to wonder oh what's next

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but i think that is only in the confl

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i'm calling it the confluence of

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recession scenario right now the

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economy's killing it i mean q4 earnings

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for companies were amazing people are

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spending money like crazy they're

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traveling like crazy disney airbnb

14:36

they're killing it sure there are some

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signs that things might be settling down

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and slowing down a little bit but the

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economy is doing very very well the

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question is will the economy continue to

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do well

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if the federal reserve gets really

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really aggressive against inflation so

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bottom line out of all of this you want

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to know the one thing to pay attention

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to in terms of what the real estate

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market's going to do it's this right

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here

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that word inflation if inflation

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continues to soar the fed has to get

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more aggressive if the fed has to get

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more aggressive this three percent

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treasury becomes more of a reality and

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when we get to three percent treasury in

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a five percent over here we have a

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higher likelihood of tucker carlson

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telling you the bad news about real

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estate prices and then potentially these

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numbers here becoming a reality but

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these will only become a reality in the

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event that inflation ends up not being

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transitory so if the federal reserve can

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get inflation down by playing the wait

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and see game supply chains catch up

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everybody chills out about inflation

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okay prices went up and we're good then

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maybe things are okay because remember

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this about inflation folks if i sell you

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this pen

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for

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ten dollars

15:48

today and next year i sell you this pen

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for eleven dollars

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then we had ten percent inflation right

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this was ten percent inflation

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well if the year after that i'm still

15:59

selling the pen

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for eleven dollars we actually had zero

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percent inflation

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so you really have to have increasing

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prices on top of increasing prices for

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this real this inflation to continue the

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problem is right now

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we we are seeing this

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so we'll see where things go we're

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hoping inflation starts peaking maybe in

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february

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maybe in march maybe in april if we

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still have high inflation by then

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these things are going to become an

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issue thanks so much for watching make

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16:37

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16:39

well and folks we'll see the next one

16:41

thanks bye

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