Powell Resigning, per Trump Director of Housing
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The statement from the chairman of the
board of Fanny and Freddy and the
director of the Federal Housing and
Finance Agency, Mr. PE suggests, quote,
I'm encouraged by reports that Jerome
Powell is considering resigning. I think
it will be the right direction for
America and the economy will boom. Now,
these are unsubstantiated reports that
are out from Mr. PTE who is the grandson
of uh the PTE group the homebuilder real
estate company future house hacks going
to take their throne this person has
been essentially shilling Donald Trump
since about 2019 uh although he's also
been involved in uh well not only having
a lot of wealth because of his
grandfather and his ownership in the PTE
homes group but also giving that away to
get attention on social media. One of
the ways he first got the attention of
Donald Trump by was by promising to give
away two cars apparently that uh you
know he would do if Donald Trump
retweeted the message back in 2019 which
Donald Trump did respond to and applaud
him for which sort of got him more
political attention and clout kind of
like buying it with you know
philanthropic donations basically. Uh
anyway, so he gets appointed as as uh
not only director of the FHFA, but also
uh essentially appoints himself chairman
of the board of Fanny Freddy, goes in
and fires a bunch of people at the
entities. There's been a lot of hope
that Fanny and Freddy would privatize uh
leading not only the stocks to rally for
Fanny and Freddy, but also uh to more
dividend cash flow coming from these uh
agencies, which are quasi government
agencies that basically enable the
30-year fixed rate mortgage. All the
extra money they're making now just goes
straight to the Treasury Department. But
if these privatized, they could start
returning their cash flows to investors
rather than to the treasury, which is
why their stocks have done very well.
And so you've got an individual who's
who's very focused on
uh,
how should I put it, fulfilling kind of
the goals of the Trump administration,
more Republican ideals, right?
privatization of Fanny Freddy, rewarding
shareholders,
uh potentially removing things like down
payment assistance for uh individuals
who might otherwise be using some of
these down payment assistance programs.
Uh see here on Tuesday, here's a New
York Times piece which indicates he
signed an order to end Fanny and Freddy
programs designed to provide assistance
with down payments and closing costs for
some first-time home buyers. A lot of
these are uh down payment either grants
or loans that are provided by community
organizations like churches or uh local
community um banks or otherwise. And
they essentially allow people to either
get granted money to buy their first
home or get a second mortgage that
allows them to actually borrow more than
the value of the property about 105%. I
know a lot of people would look at this
and we're like, "Oh my gosh, you know,
people shouldn't be buying homes at
these levels." And you could sort of
have a debate around that because you
could do 3% down and then borrow the
down payment and the closing cost.
Usually these are restricted for people
with, you know, moderate to median
incomes or even below median incomes.
And there sort of a way to give people
home ownership or access to home home
ownership in an unaffordable time. It's
probably some inefficiency because
anytime you get the government involved
doing stuff like this, there's some
inefficiency in what's involved in this.
Uh, and other people argue like just get
the government out of uh, the
involvement in real estate. There are
some downsides obviously to that uh,
such as losing potentially the 30-year
fixed rate mortgage or losing 30 to 60
or even 90-day rate lock periods when
you're applying for a mortgage. Uh,
potentially losing no prepayment
penalties on newer loans that are
created. Uh, right. We we don't have
prepayment penalties on a 30-year fixed
rate mortgage today, which essentially
enables you to fix your rate in for 30
years and refinance whenever you want.
So, you've got an individual that's
really trying to push the housing
community into a more private direction.
And the person that heavily stands in
the way of that in my opinion and
probably in P's opinion as well is
Jerome Powell. Drone Powell is
basically, hey, we're worried that the
effects of inflation could be a lot more
persistent because of Donald Trump's
tariffs than other people are
forecasting. In fact, if you look at the
Fed's minutes, you'll see many observe
that it may take, this is these are the
last minutes from June. Many observe
that it may take some time for the
effect of high higher tariffs to be
reflected in the prices of final goods
because some firms might not choose to
raise prices until they had run down
their inventories. However, it's also
possible that there could be a low pass
through of those tariffs as businesses
essentially get rejected by households
at higher prices leading essentially
then businesses to take it in the margin
and then of course leading to the
potential that while the labor market is
stable today, we could end up in a place
where heightened policy uncertainty and
the impacts of these higher tariffs
would end up weighing on labor,
especially uh since we're already seeing
a softening of labor conditions.
It's worth also looking at what's going
on with warn notices in this. Here's a
chart from Apollo that we annotated this
morning where we indicated a few
different things. I'll explain this
quickly here, but basically warn notices
are a heads up that in the next 60 days,
a bunch of people are going to get
fired. Uh, as you can see, we hit this
election low uh right over here. Uh,
right when the election occurred, we had
negative year-over-year layoffs. We were
under that 0% line. I threw this green
line in just to show kind of a usual low
strong labor market, low layoffs coming,
right? The green line are warn notices.
The blue line are unemployment claims,
which have been pretty, you know,
decently stable. However, warn notices
are starting to tick up. And while
they're not yet at recessionary levels,
which would be more like your red bar up
here, absent uh what happened in 2012
where you had this odd spike over here,
you can see this being the more
concerning line here. You see, you
really want to pay attention to the
trend of war notices going up. uh
because the the trend suggests that we
may end up if we continue this trend in
a recessionary level of layoffs
especially at a time where the beverage
curve is highly abnormal which I wrote
down here suggesting that even a small
increase in layoffs could end up leading
the unemployment rate to skyrocket would
make the Fed a little nervous to lower
rates. So there are legitimate concerns
that the Federal Reserve has regarding
interest rates. That said, Pte, more of
a sort of free market capitalist, you
know, Republican point of view, argues,
hey, maybe we don't need the government
in our housing. Maybe we don't need the
Federal Reserve to set rates. We should
lower rates, get the government out of
housing, lower rates, and enable
affordable housing again. Other people
argue that if we lower rates now during
these potential times, we might end up
just increasing how home prices even
more. Home prices so far have been
holding up pretty well, though ING is
reporting that in some areas home prices
are starting to falter a little bit. In
fact, you can see here the Powell Trump
clash is set to escalate. In the last
few days, we've seen people criticize
Powell's renovation of the Washington DC
branch of the Federal Reserve. Uh there
people are suggesting it's a palace, but
ING is reporting that GDP growth is
expected to fall to just 1.5% in 25 and
26. Consumer spending may be plateauing
a little bit, though not necessarily
online sales because you kind of have to
balance this with the news that as we
expected, the Amazon news was not as bad
as expected. Previously, we heard that
Amazon saw sales dropping 41%. And we
made this argument that, oh, okay, but
that's one person representing about 41
different sellers. There are thousands
of sellers on Amazon, so we need to wait
for like broad data to get more
realistic data on on consumer spending.
What we ended up getting this morning
was that Amazon Prime Day actually
fueled a 30.3% rise in online spending.
This is according to Adobe's analytics,
topping estimates for 28.4%
growth over this particular week. Now,
it's possible that because Prime Day was
four days this year instead of two that
people just basically had more time to
spend
uh and so you sort of buttered that out
and maybe that's why you had that sort
of misleading negative 40% stat. But we
basically had exactly the opposite of
consumers still spending online at
Walmart, Target, Amazon. So, so far
consumer spending still really holding
up. Uh which is good. But going back to
that ING report, you can see here
households quickly recognized that they
would be the ones to pay for the bulk of
the tariffs, therefore leading to some
uncertainty in uh in spending, although
again apparently not online. Median
sales prices nationwide for real estate
are still positive. They're the highest
level in the last four years, though
some parts like Texas and Florida, some
sunb belt areas are seeing negative
prices. ING reports this pickup in war
notices as well and that employment
outside of private education and
healthcare has virtually stalled and
even fallen nine of the last 30 months.
So these potential issues here. On top
of that, you've got a buildup of
inventory which could end up hitting
housing prices more in certain areas.
And our GDP is likely volatile for Q1,
Q2 because of tariffs. But as we get CPI
reads for July, August, and September,
we could end up seeing substantially
higher prints in inflation. Uh, and this
concern that this inflation could end up
being persistent. So that's what leads
IG to report that they don't think rates
are going to fall until December where
they're calling for a 50 basis point
rate cut uh in December. So basically a
double rate cut in December. This though
isn't stopping people from trying to
pressure Powell. It's like like this PTE
individual who says America wants Fed
Chairman Jerome Powell to resign. Mr.
Powell, do the patriotic thing and step
down now. You've done enough damage to
the middle class. You know, a lot of
people here would argue that it's not
Powell who, you know, created the
damage. It's rather politicians who
spent the money. The Fed just sort of
enabled it and then, you know, was slow
to raise rates.
So, you know, there's probably blame to
go around on both sides, but so far
there doesn't appear to be any actual
evidence uh that Powell is willing to
step down. I also think that Powell is
going to be quite stubborn on this
because I think he has a legacy to to
continue fulfilling.
Obviously, this is all coming at the
same time as we're still talking about
BRICS currencies and ddollarization.
Although Bloomberg calls this quote
still a pipe dream that BRICS countries
once again failed to make significant
strides in their crossber payment
system, they had a great opportunity to
do it during the tariff disaster of
April uh and really March uh or
potentially even coming up here as we're
threatening even more tariffs on the U
EU and Mexico. But so far the economy is
holding up. We haven't seen unemployment
skyrocket yet. And so you're getting
this push towards free market capitalism
by Trump and and the Trump fanboys or
chillers or whatever you want to call
them. But I don't think that there's any
actual evidence that this person who
seems very
convinced with I need to like make
statements that are going to be populist
actually has any evidence that Powell is
going to step down. It's to me the same
thing that you saw with the
cryptocurrency reserve calculation for
people wanting to buy homes that you
could use crypto as reserves for buying
a home. This is great, but it probably
makes very little practical difference
uh because we're just talking about your
ability to show two to six months of
extra payments in reserves somewhere.
And if you have significant uh you know
crypto assets and reserves, it's also
likely that you have enough to show that
you have two to six months worth of
payments without having to liquidate
your crypto, especially since crypto is
volatile. So yeah, I mean it might help
on a margin, but I think a lot of this
is really designed to be sort of
populist like this is the crypto
president, we're the free market uh
agency now. uh we're gonna, you know,
strip the affordable housing programs
and get the government out of housing
risk again losing the 30-year mortgage
in the longer term. So, we'll see what
kind of damage PTE causes if he does at
all. But in the meantime, economy's
holding up. Yeah, people are talking
about an underpriced risk that Powell
gets kicked out, but if Powell gets
kicked out, people are just going to
think that rates will plummet and uh
you'll end up getting a selloff in the
dollar and treasuries, which is entirely
possible, but you know, that doesn't
really affect the stock market. Uh and
on top of that, uh you know, you still
have debates about how the global
economy is doing. The International
Energy Agency says that global demand
for oil is growing at the slowest pace
since 2009. But OPEC is acting like
we're seeing twice as much growth as the
IEA is suggesting,
suggesting that demand is so strong that
we'll be able to absorb the additional
supply. So we're going to release more
barrels of oil. So in other words, we
don't really know where the economy sits
with so many different signals right
now. I think there's no doubt we're in a
transition point. But I think this idea
that O Powell is definitely going to
resign is probably overblown and more
likely just sort of a populist message
uh from uh you know a big Trump fanboy
and not necessarily something that's
based in fact reality or at all based in
Powell's personality. Powell's got
plenty of money uh to not have to worry
about you know what happens after this
and he I think he's going to see through
his legacy of Fed independence and I
think he'd rather die than
enable
a Trump choice a day sooner uh than his
job is over. That's my guess. Uh in
terms of his personality is what we've
seen over the last, you know, seven
years of Powell. Uh and and if any of
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