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Powell Resigning, per Trump Director of Housing

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The statement from the chairman of the

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board of Fanny and Freddy and the

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director of the Federal Housing and

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Finance Agency, Mr. PE suggests, quote,

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I'm encouraged by reports that Jerome

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Powell is considering resigning. I think

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it will be the right direction for

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America and the economy will boom. Now,

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these are unsubstantiated reports that

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are out from Mr. PTE who is the grandson

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of uh the PTE group the homebuilder real

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estate company future house hacks going

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to take their throne this person has

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been essentially shilling Donald Trump

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since about 2019 uh although he's also

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been involved in uh well not only having

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a lot of wealth because of his

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grandfather and his ownership in the PTE

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homes group but also giving that away to

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get attention on social media. One of

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the ways he first got the attention of

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Donald Trump by was by promising to give

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away two cars apparently that uh you

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know he would do if Donald Trump

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retweeted the message back in 2019 which

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Donald Trump did respond to and applaud

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him for which sort of got him more

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political attention and clout kind of

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like buying it with you know

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philanthropic donations basically. Uh

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anyway, so he gets appointed as as uh

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not only director of the FHFA, but also

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uh essentially appoints himself chairman

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of the board of Fanny Freddy, goes in

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and fires a bunch of people at the

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entities. There's been a lot of hope

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that Fanny and Freddy would privatize uh

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leading not only the stocks to rally for

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Fanny and Freddy, but also uh to more

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dividend cash flow coming from these uh

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agencies, which are quasi government

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agencies that basically enable the

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30-year fixed rate mortgage. All the

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extra money they're making now just goes

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straight to the Treasury Department. But

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if these privatized, they could start

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returning their cash flows to investors

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rather than to the treasury, which is

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why their stocks have done very well.

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And so you've got an individual who's

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who's very focused on

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uh,

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how should I put it, fulfilling kind of

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the goals of the Trump administration,

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more Republican ideals, right?

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privatization of Fanny Freddy, rewarding

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shareholders,

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uh potentially removing things like down

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payment assistance for uh individuals

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who might otherwise be using some of

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these down payment assistance programs.

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Uh see here on Tuesday, here's a New

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York Times piece which indicates he

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signed an order to end Fanny and Freddy

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programs designed to provide assistance

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with down payments and closing costs for

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some first-time home buyers. A lot of

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these are uh down payment either grants

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or loans that are provided by community

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organizations like churches or uh local

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community um banks or otherwise. And

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they essentially allow people to either

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get granted money to buy their first

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home or get a second mortgage that

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allows them to actually borrow more than

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the value of the property about 105%. I

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know a lot of people would look at this

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and we're like, "Oh my gosh, you know,

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people shouldn't be buying homes at

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these levels." And you could sort of

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have a debate around that because you

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could do 3% down and then borrow the

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down payment and the closing cost.

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Usually these are restricted for people

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with, you know, moderate to median

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incomes or even below median incomes.

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And there sort of a way to give people

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home ownership or access to home home

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ownership in an unaffordable time. It's

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probably some inefficiency because

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anytime you get the government involved

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doing stuff like this, there's some

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inefficiency in what's involved in this.

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Uh, and other people argue like just get

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the government out of uh, the

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involvement in real estate. There are

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some downsides obviously to that uh,

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such as losing potentially the 30-year

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fixed rate mortgage or losing 30 to 60

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or even 90-day rate lock periods when

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you're applying for a mortgage. Uh,

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potentially losing no prepayment

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penalties on newer loans that are

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created. Uh, right. We we don't have

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prepayment penalties on a 30-year fixed

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rate mortgage today, which essentially

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enables you to fix your rate in for 30

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years and refinance whenever you want.

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So, you've got an individual that's

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really trying to push the housing

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community into a more private direction.

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And the person that heavily stands in

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the way of that in my opinion and

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probably in P's opinion as well is

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Jerome Powell. Drone Powell is

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basically, hey, we're worried that the

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effects of inflation could be a lot more

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persistent because of Donald Trump's

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tariffs than other people are

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forecasting. In fact, if you look at the

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Fed's minutes, you'll see many observe

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that it may take, this is these are the

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last minutes from June. Many observe

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that it may take some time for the

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effect of high higher tariffs to be

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reflected in the prices of final goods

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because some firms might not choose to

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raise prices until they had run down

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their inventories. However, it's also

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possible that there could be a low pass

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through of those tariffs as businesses

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essentially get rejected by households

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at higher prices leading essentially

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then businesses to take it in the margin

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and then of course leading to the

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potential that while the labor market is

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stable today, we could end up in a place

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where heightened policy uncertainty and

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the impacts of these higher tariffs

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would end up weighing on labor,

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especially uh since we're already seeing

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a softening of labor conditions.

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It's worth also looking at what's going

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on with warn notices in this. Here's a

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chart from Apollo that we annotated this

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morning where we indicated a few

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different things. I'll explain this

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quickly here, but basically warn notices

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are a heads up that in the next 60 days,

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a bunch of people are going to get

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fired. Uh, as you can see, we hit this

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election low uh right over here. Uh,

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right when the election occurred, we had

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negative year-over-year layoffs. We were

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under that 0% line. I threw this green

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line in just to show kind of a usual low

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strong labor market, low layoffs coming,

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right? The green line are warn notices.

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The blue line are unemployment claims,

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which have been pretty, you know,

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decently stable. However, warn notices

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are starting to tick up. And while

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they're not yet at recessionary levels,

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which would be more like your red bar up

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here, absent uh what happened in 2012

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where you had this odd spike over here,

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you can see this being the more

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concerning line here. You see, you

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really want to pay attention to the

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trend of war notices going up. uh

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because the the trend suggests that we

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may end up if we continue this trend in

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a recessionary level of layoffs

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especially at a time where the beverage

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curve is highly abnormal which I wrote

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down here suggesting that even a small

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increase in layoffs could end up leading

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the unemployment rate to skyrocket would

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make the Fed a little nervous to lower

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rates. So there are legitimate concerns

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that the Federal Reserve has regarding

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interest rates. That said, Pte, more of

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a sort of free market capitalist, you

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know, Republican point of view, argues,

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hey, maybe we don't need the government

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in our housing. Maybe we don't need the

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Federal Reserve to set rates. We should

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lower rates, get the government out of

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housing, lower rates, and enable

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affordable housing again. Other people

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argue that if we lower rates now during

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these potential times, we might end up

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just increasing how home prices even

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more. Home prices so far have been

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holding up pretty well, though ING is

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reporting that in some areas home prices

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are starting to falter a little bit. In

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fact, you can see here the Powell Trump

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clash is set to escalate. In the last

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few days, we've seen people criticize

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Powell's renovation of the Washington DC

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branch of the Federal Reserve. Uh there

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people are suggesting it's a palace, but

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ING is reporting that GDP growth is

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expected to fall to just 1.5% in 25 and

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26. Consumer spending may be plateauing

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a little bit, though not necessarily

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online sales because you kind of have to

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balance this with the news that as we

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expected, the Amazon news was not as bad

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as expected. Previously, we heard that

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Amazon saw sales dropping 41%. And we

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made this argument that, oh, okay, but

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that's one person representing about 41

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different sellers. There are thousands

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of sellers on Amazon, so we need to wait

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for like broad data to get more

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realistic data on on consumer spending.

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What we ended up getting this morning

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was that Amazon Prime Day actually

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fueled a 30.3% rise in online spending.

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This is according to Adobe's analytics,

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topping estimates for 28.4%

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growth over this particular week. Now,

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it's possible that because Prime Day was

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four days this year instead of two that

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people just basically had more time to

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spend

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uh and so you sort of buttered that out

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and maybe that's why you had that sort

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of misleading negative 40% stat. But we

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basically had exactly the opposite of

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consumers still spending online at

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Walmart, Target, Amazon. So, so far

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consumer spending still really holding

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up. Uh which is good. But going back to

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that ING report, you can see here

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households quickly recognized that they

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would be the ones to pay for the bulk of

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the tariffs, therefore leading to some

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uncertainty in uh in spending, although

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again apparently not online. Median

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sales prices nationwide for real estate

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are still positive. They're the highest

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level in the last four years, though

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some parts like Texas and Florida, some

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sunb belt areas are seeing negative

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prices. ING reports this pickup in war

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notices as well and that employment

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outside of private education and

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healthcare has virtually stalled and

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even fallen nine of the last 30 months.

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So these potential issues here. On top

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of that, you've got a buildup of

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inventory which could end up hitting

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housing prices more in certain areas.

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And our GDP is likely volatile for Q1,

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Q2 because of tariffs. But as we get CPI

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reads for July, August, and September,

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we could end up seeing substantially

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higher prints in inflation. Uh, and this

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concern that this inflation could end up

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being persistent. So that's what leads

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IG to report that they don't think rates

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are going to fall until December where

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they're calling for a 50 basis point

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rate cut uh in December. So basically a

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double rate cut in December. This though

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isn't stopping people from trying to

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pressure Powell. It's like like this PTE

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individual who says America wants Fed

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Chairman Jerome Powell to resign. Mr.

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Powell, do the patriotic thing and step

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down now. You've done enough damage to

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the middle class. You know, a lot of

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people here would argue that it's not

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Powell who, you know, created the

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damage. It's rather politicians who

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spent the money. The Fed just sort of

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enabled it and then, you know, was slow

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to raise rates.

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So, you know, there's probably blame to

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go around on both sides, but so far

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there doesn't appear to be any actual

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evidence uh that Powell is willing to

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step down. I also think that Powell is

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going to be quite stubborn on this

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because I think he has a legacy to to

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continue fulfilling.

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Obviously, this is all coming at the

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same time as we're still talking about

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BRICS currencies and ddollarization.

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Although Bloomberg calls this quote

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still a pipe dream that BRICS countries

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once again failed to make significant

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strides in their crossber payment

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system, they had a great opportunity to

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do it during the tariff disaster of

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April uh and really March uh or

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potentially even coming up here as we're

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threatening even more tariffs on the U

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EU and Mexico. But so far the economy is

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holding up. We haven't seen unemployment

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skyrocket yet. And so you're getting

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this push towards free market capitalism

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by Trump and and the Trump fanboys or

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chillers or whatever you want to call

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them. But I don't think that there's any

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actual evidence that this person who

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seems very

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convinced with I need to like make

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statements that are going to be populist

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actually has any evidence that Powell is

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going to step down. It's to me the same

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thing that you saw with the

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cryptocurrency reserve calculation for

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people wanting to buy homes that you

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could use crypto as reserves for buying

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a home. This is great, but it probably

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makes very little practical difference

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uh because we're just talking about your

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ability to show two to six months of

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extra payments in reserves somewhere.

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And if you have significant uh you know

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crypto assets and reserves, it's also

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likely that you have enough to show that

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you have two to six months worth of

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payments without having to liquidate

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your crypto, especially since crypto is

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volatile. So yeah, I mean it might help

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on a margin, but I think a lot of this

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is really designed to be sort of

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populist like this is the crypto

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president, we're the free market uh

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agency now. uh we're gonna, you know,

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strip the affordable housing programs

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and get the government out of housing

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risk again losing the 30-year mortgage

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in the longer term. So, we'll see what

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kind of damage PTE causes if he does at

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all. But in the meantime, economy's

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holding up. Yeah, people are talking

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about an underpriced risk that Powell

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gets kicked out, but if Powell gets

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kicked out, people are just going to

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think that rates will plummet and uh

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you'll end up getting a selloff in the

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dollar and treasuries, which is entirely

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possible, but you know, that doesn't

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really affect the stock market. Uh and

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on top of that, uh you know, you still

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have debates about how the global

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economy is doing. The International

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Energy Agency says that global demand

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for oil is growing at the slowest pace

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since 2009. But OPEC is acting like

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we're seeing twice as much growth as the

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IEA is suggesting,

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suggesting that demand is so strong that

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we'll be able to absorb the additional

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supply. So we're going to release more

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barrels of oil. So in other words, we

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don't really know where the economy sits

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with so many different signals right

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now. I think there's no doubt we're in a

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transition point. But I think this idea

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that O Powell is definitely going to

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resign is probably overblown and more

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likely just sort of a populist message

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uh from uh you know a big Trump fanboy

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and not necessarily something that's

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based in fact reality or at all based in

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Powell's personality. Powell's got

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plenty of money uh to not have to worry

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about you know what happens after this

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and he I think he's going to see through

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his legacy of Fed independence and I

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think he'd rather die than

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enable

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a Trump choice a day sooner uh than his

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job is over. That's my guess. Uh in

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terms of his personality is what we've

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