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Honorable members, Mr. Speaker,

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Thank you members. We will resume our

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consideration

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of the business of this third sitting

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with prayers led by the clerk.

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Almighty God, we who are here gathered

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together do most humbly beseech thee to

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guide us in all our consultations

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so that we may together build a land

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where knowledge is free, where the minds

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without fear and the head is high and

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where words come from the depth of

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truth. Grant us, oh God, the hidden

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guidance, so that we may deal justly

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with the several causes that come before

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us. laying aside all private interests,

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prejudices, and personal preferences, so

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that the result of our councils may be

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to the glory of thy blessed name, the

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maintenance of true religion, the

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preservation of justice, the safety,

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honor, and happiness of the president,

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and the peace and prosperity of Guyana.

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Grant us, oh God, the vision so to lead,

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that all the people of this fair land

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may enter that state of brotherhood and

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unity, where their minds led forward by

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thee into ever widening thought and

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action.

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Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Honorable members,

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please be seated.

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Honorable members, we begin

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our resumption

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with the presentation from

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the honorable member

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Miss Odessa

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Primus. Honorable member, you may

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proceed.

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Jambo,

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today I stand before you as a

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representative of a party that soar

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through the skies like an eagle. and we

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are proud to be in the house to

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represent the people of this country. I

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am here today

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to speak about the Ministry of Culture,

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Youth and Sport aspect of the budget.

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Now

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I was asked to look for the flaws within

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that section of the budget and if I may

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say so myself that entire section is

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flawed

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that the entire budget is flawed

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including the cover of the budget.

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Now let me tell you something. Please

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don't interrupt me sir. This is not

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church. Let me tell you something.

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When we look at the budget now, let me

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tell you, um, Honorable Edgel, Mr.

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Speaker, let me tell you where the

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problem begins. The problem begins when

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you have a minister who lacks vision and

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an understanding of how culture, youth,

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and sport works. Perhaps if he shared a

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closer relationship with Dr. Frank

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Anthony, he would have been able to get

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SOME HELP. HOW COULD YOU HAVE a ministry

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AND HAVE NOT ONE SINGLE POLICY FOR THAT

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MINISTRY? WHETHER IT BE YOUTH, WHETHER

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IT BE SPORT, OR WHETHER IT BE CULTURE.

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>> THAT IN ITSELF says that there exist a

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flaw.

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>> Let me explain to you honorable Ramson.

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MR. SPEAKER, LET ME tell you

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this IS EQUIVALENT TO BUILDING A HOUSE

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AND THEN SEEKING A PERSON TO CREATE THE

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PLAN FOR SAID HOUSE THAT YOU JUST BUILT.

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DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE?

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>> NO.

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>> Can't make sense only to the honorable

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Ramson.

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>> No sense at all. There has TO BE

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SOMETHING THAT GUIDES that informs what

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happens within those ministries.

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IT IS SAFE TO CONCLUDE THAT THE POLICY

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OF THE MINISTRY of Youth Sport of

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Culture, youth and SPORT IS A NO POLICY

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um position that they have taken. Mr.

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Speaker, I took the opportunity

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to Google

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and I want to put Google out there just

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in case anybody's going to come out and

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say AI,

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what policy is and let me read WHAT

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GOOGLE SAYS. GOOGLE says policy defines

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goals. It establish operational

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boundaries. It ensures ACCOUNTABILITY

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AND IT GUIDES decision making to align

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with public interest.

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Now Google ain't stopped there. This is

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not my idea. GOOGLE BRIGHT. WHAT GOOGLE

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CONTINUED TO say is that it ensures

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consistency and efficiency, performance

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evaluation, ACCOUNTABILITY AND

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governance and of course it ensures

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legal protection.

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So in other words, we the artists in

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this country have got NO LEGAL

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PROTECTION. IN OTHER WORDS,

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>> NO COPYRIGHT LAWS. IN OTHER WORDS,

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>> IT MEANS THAT THE GOVERNMENT AND BY

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EXTENSION THE MINISTER HAS A PROBLEM

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WITH ACCOUNTABILITY

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BECAUSE THAT FACILITATES for evaluation.

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Minister

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um honorable speaker sorry I'm talking

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to everybody. Honorable speaker let me

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tell you sir what I have found within

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these things. I looked at the list of

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words that we are prohibited from saying

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sir and so I don't want to be

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disrespectful by any means in this

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honorable house. So I decided that to

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describe what is happening I will say it

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is ruption.

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It is ruption that starts with a C.

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That is what we are experiencing here

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under the ministry of culture youth and

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sport. Since there is absolutely no

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accountability,

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>> there is also um what the speaker

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interprets as imputation. Check the

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standing orders.

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>> Thank you very much for that, sir. And

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your interpretation is I shouldn't use

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it.

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>> Repeat. Repeat again.

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>> No, I'm asking. Are you saying that I

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should not say that?

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>> All I'm saying to be cautious.

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>> Thank you very much, sir. Appreciate it.

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>> Thank you very much, sir. Appreciate it.

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guided.

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Honorable members, I looked at the title

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given to the budget, putting people

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first. I may have heard that somewhere

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before. Uh not quite sure where. Oh, I

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did. Right. And I was very happy. That

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is one of the things that I actually

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like. And I'm happy particularly because

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almost 30 years being in GOVERNMENT AND

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THE PPP FINALLY DECIDE THAT THEY ARE

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GOING TO PUT PEOPLE FIRST. AND NOW

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LOOKING AT THAT, IMAGINE AFTER ALL THESE

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YEARS, YOU HAVE NOW DECIDED TO PUT THE

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PEOPLE FIRST. THANK GOD FOR THAT. BUT

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WHEN YOU EXAMINE THE BUDGET, HONORABLE

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MEMBERS, WHEN YOU EXAMINE THE BUDGET,

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DOES IT ACTUALLY PUT THE PEOPLE FIRST?

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Absolutely not.

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>> Absolutely not. Now for the sake FOR THE

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SAKE OF THIS DEBATE, WHAT I WILL do is

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go through each of the different

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sectors. WE ARE GOING TO START WITH WE

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ARE GOING TO START WITH CULTURE AND LET

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ME TELL YOU IF THERE IS ANYBODY IN THIS

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HOUSE WHO HAS AN AUTHORITY TO SPEAK ON

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CULTURE, IT WOULD BE ME.

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I HAVE BEEN IN THAT INDUSTRY FROM

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CHILDHOOD AND OUTSIDE OF MYSELF AND THE

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HONORABLE PSYCHO, WE ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE

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WHO CAN TELL YOU DIRECTLY WHAT ARE THE

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STRUGGLES FACED BY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN

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THE CULTURAL INDUSTRY.

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>> Honorable speaker,

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>> MR. MR. SPEAKER, LET ME TELL YOU as it

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relates to as it relates to culture,

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youth and sport. UNFORTUNATELY,

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BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT SEE

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YOUTH AS IMPORTANT,

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THEY HAVE GOTTEN ONE OF THE SMALLEST

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BUDGETS ALLOCATED TO ANY MINISTRY. AND I

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WAS SO CONCERNED WHEN I LOOKED AT THE $8

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BILLION THAT THEY WERE GIVEN last year

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and this year they had TO REDUCE THAT TO

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$6 BILLION. AND WE HAVE OVER SE 70% OF

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THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY ARE YOUTHS.

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SO YOU COULD IMAGINE 70% OF THE PEOPLE

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ARE ONLY GIVEN THE SMALLEST PART OF

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ANYTHING. THIS CAN'T BE A GOVERNMENT

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THAT IS PUTTING THE PEOPLE FIRST.

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>> WHICH PEOPLE WHO

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CERTAINLY NOT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE

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INVOLVED IN YOUTH SPORT AND CULTURE.

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CERTAINLY NOT OUR ARTISTS. CERTAINLY NOT

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OUR OUR UM SPORTSMEN AND WOMEN.

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CERTAINLY NOT OUR YOUNG PEOPLE. THIS

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GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED AND THIS BUDGET

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THIS BUDGET IS A CLEAR ILLUSTRATION THAT

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THEY INTEND TO CONTINUE FAILING.

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>> MR. SPEAKER,

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>> no sir, YOU DON'T STUDY ME AND FOOD.

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HONORABLE MEMBER, things so HARD IN THIS

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COUNTRY, I WENT TO BUY $300 CELERY. THE

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PEOPLE BROUGHT OUT THREE CELERY. I

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BECAME ALLERGIC TO CELERY.

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THINGS HARD WITHIN THIS COUNTRY.

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HONORABLE JAMES BOND, DON'T PRETEND AS

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THOUGH YOU HAVE NOT BEEN SUFFERING.

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HONORABLE MEMBERS,

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HONORABLE MEMBERS, LET ME TELL YOU

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SOMETHING. AS IT relates to the

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preservation AS IT RELATES TO THE

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PRESERVATION OF CULTURE IN THIS COUNTRY.

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WHEN IT COMES TO CULTURE, THERE IS

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ABSOLUTELY NO PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY THAT

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WE CAN GO AND LEARN ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO

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WENT BEFORE US WHO PARTICIPATED IN

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CULTURE. WE HAVE A MUSEUM. Tell me,

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honorable members, let me go through the

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names of some OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE

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CONTRIBUTED SIGNIFICANTLY TO CULTURE.

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AND WHERE WHERE HAVE WE WHERE HAVE WE

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EVEN VENTURED TO ENSURE THAT THEIR

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CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR CULTURE IS

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PRESERVED?

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The National Cultural Center is a

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monument that perhaps is one of the

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monuments or one of the that's the

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museum or a monument of some sort. Now

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let me tell you I have performed

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countless times at the National Cultural

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Center and if you go into that you don't

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go to the culture center James YOU MEL

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ANYWHERE. THERE'S NO PLACE WHERE PEOPLE

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COULD DO ANY S ACTING. SO YOU DON'T KNOW

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WHAT'S GOING ON. I PERFORMED AT YOUR

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PLACE. NOW HONORABLE MEMBERS,

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honorable members,

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WHEN THE PPP WAS VICTIMIZED IN JAMES, I

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WAS THE ONE WHO WENT TO PERFORM AT HIS

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PLACE. HE COULD GET A DOLLAR SO THAT HE

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DON'T HAVE TO FEEL THE HARDSHIPS OF THE

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PVP GOVERNMENT.

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WHEN INGRATITUDE WAS SHARING THAT

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HONORABLE member got the lion's share.

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>> He did not pay me. HE DIDN'T HAVE MONEY.

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I was helping him.

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>> NOW, LET ME TELL YOU, HONORABLE MEMBER,

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LET US GO to that list THAT I JUST

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MENTIONED. WE HAVE NAMES LIKE THE MIGHTY

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REBEL. HOW MANY YOUNG PEOPLE YOU COULD

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GO INTO A SCHOOL AND TELL THEM ABOUT

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REBEL AND THEY COULD TELL YOU WHO THE

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MIGHTY REBEL IS? H HOW MANY YOUNG PEOPLE

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COULD TELL US ABOUT HENRY RODNEY'S

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CONTRIBUTION TO THEATER AS WELL AS TO

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THE CULTURE?

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HABIB KHAN HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MOST

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OUTSTANDING COMEDIANS IN THIS COUNTRY.

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THAT MAN LOVED THE THE ARTS SO MUCH THAT

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HE DROPPED OUT OF LAW SCHOOL AND WENT

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AHEAD AND PURSUED HIS CAREER IN STANDUP

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COMEDY. HONORABLE MEMBERS, I STAND

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BEFORE YOU AND IT PAINS MY HEART TO TELL

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YOU THAT BOTH HENRY RODNEY AND MR. HABIB

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KHAN DIED POOUS IN THIS COUNTRY. AND I'M

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NOT SAYING THAT TO DISCREDIT THOSE

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PEOPLE OR THEIR FAMILIES, BUT TO LET YOU

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UNDERSTAND THAT AS AN ARTIST, WHAT THE

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GOVERNMENT IS PROMOTING IS POVERTY.

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YOU CANNOT TELL ME THAT POVERTY IS WHAT

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YOU WANT FOR YOUR OWN PEOPLE. AS AN

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ARTIST, WE HAVE THE HONORABLE SAIKU HERE

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WITH US. HE COULD TELL YOU HOW MUCH THE

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GOVERNMENT CONTRIBUTED TO HIS CRAFT.

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TELL us I give you want some time THINK

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NOTHING. HE SAID NOTHING. THEY HAVE NOT

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CONTRIBUTED ANYTHING BECAUSE YOU KNOW

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WHY THE HONORABLE MEMBER'S idea of

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promoting culture is having a one Guyana

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show one and two times a year. Amen.

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>> Our culture CANNOT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU

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JUST DO ONE AND TWO TIMES. That is not

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how it works. Honorable member, our

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culture should be preserved. OH, FOR THE

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SAKE OF PROSPERITY, WE SHOULD DO better

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to go through to continue going through

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that list are SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO WE

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LOST. WE HAVE THE GREAT DAPHNE ROGERS.

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MEMBERS SITTING IN THIS HOUSE DON'T EVEN

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KNOW, INCLUDING MR. RAMSON, WHO DAPHNE

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Rogers is. WE HAVE RON ROBINSON. WE HAVE

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THE HONORABLE DAVE MARTIN, WHO OF COURSE

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A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THESE PEOPLE DIE,

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YOU HAVE THE PRESIDENT AND everybody in

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this country showing up to the FUNERALS

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AND TALKING ABOUT how great they were

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and all of THESE SORTS OF THINGS. HOW

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MUCH HAVE WE AS A COUNTRY GIVEN TO THOSE

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PEOPLE WHO HAVE DEDICATED THEIR LIVES TO

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THE CULTURE IN THIS COUNTRY? NOTHING.

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YOU JUST GET TO HAVE A FUNERAL AT THE

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CULTURE CENTER. THAT IS IT. Nothing

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more. THERE IS NO PLACE THAT YOU CAN GO

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and see what the contributions of those

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great men and women who went before us.

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We have um to continue the list we have

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um Andre O'Brien and also I would like

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to draw our attention to the living

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legends and I'm saying and mentioning

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some of THESE LEGENDS. I'M MENTIONING

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SOME OF THESE LEGENDS BECAUSE WHILE THEY

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ARE ALIVE I HOPE THAT AS A COUNTRY WE

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COULD DO BETTER BECAUSE IF WHEN I LOOK

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AT THIS BUDGET THERE IS NOTHING THAT

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CATERS to those PERSONS WHO CONTINUE TO

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contribute to THE CULTURE. LET ME GO

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through the list for the sake of the

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honorable member.

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Miss Desireel,

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VIVIAN DANIELS,

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DES MARGARET LAWRENCE, PALOMA MUHAMMAD,

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MALCOLM DEFRATUS, JENNIFER THUS, SIMONE

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DAING, THE YURUBO SINGERS, JEM MADU

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NASIMENTO,

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um Eddie Grant, and of course the list

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can go on and on and on forever. But

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just like James Town, there is

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absolutely nothing to show of the

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existence of the history. I attempted to

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go to Jamestown, honorable member, and

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if the Minister of Culture decides that

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it is good to marry culture with

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tourism, I would like to assist him

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here. These are places that we should

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seek to preserve and to restore because

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these are places, whether positive or

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negative, that are spoken about all over

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the world. You stop AND PEOPLE CAN TELL

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YOU ABOUT JAMESTOWN, BUT YOU CAN'T GO

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THERE. I TRIED GOING INTO JAMESTOWN. I

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said, "Well, listen, I wasn't there when

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Jamestown when Jim Jones was there."

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Jonestown, sorry. Yes. A mistake is all

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right. IT'S A MISTAKE JUST LIKE THIS

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BUDGET. LISTEN. LET ME TELL YOU

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SOMETHING.

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NOTHING EXISTS THERE AS IT RELATES to

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Jonestown. You cannot go in there and

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find anything. IN FACT, IT'S SO MUCH

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BUSH AND TREES BEFORE YOU GET THERE that

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it is extremely difficult to go there.

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And I'm HOPING THAT THE CULTURAL

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INDUSTRY IN THIS COUNTRY DOES NOT BECOME

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another Jones story.

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Honorable members, honorable members,

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let me tell you something.

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the theater and members of theater they

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have been surviving on crutches

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and because in that industry we are a

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family we have to hold each other up. So

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if somebody's crutch breaks it therefore

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means that the person

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it

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a death.

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therefore means that culture is

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suffering and continues to suffer. I

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particularly

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went through what we have to offer and

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let me tell you what are some of the

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things that I see missing before Mr.

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Ramson during the time of his honorable

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colleague we had drama festival

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and let me tell you this here today

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honorable members drama festival is not

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just a festival where people come

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together and write scripts and they

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perform drama festival is one of the

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ways that help to save the culture

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because very many people would like to

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put on a show at the cultural center and

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people ask why there aren't very many

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shows at the culture center outside of

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the fact that the minister is

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micromanaging the entire culture center.

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One of the reasons is because it is

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extremely expensive and when you go to

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the business community they they don't

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really do much for you unless you're

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extremely popular and you know somebody

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who going to help you because of you.

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You understand me? So that there puts

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bread in the mouth of those people who

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are in the arts. But the honorable

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minister has decided that he's going to

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remove drama festival. So now our young

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budding actors, singers, dancers and so

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on, those opportunities are gone and

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that honorable members of this house is

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a sad state of affairs.

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Now let me tell you I went through a

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couple of things and I thought maybe

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because of

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um the lacking in this particular area I

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should help the honorable member because

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as a member of this house my job is not

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to come here to create enemies in as

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much as it isn't to come to create

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friends but to ensure that the people of

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this country are properly represented to

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ensure that the people of this country

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get what they deserve and the cultural

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industry is dying. In as much as the

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honorable member would have these shows

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once a year, it only covers a certain

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sector. So you might only get actors,

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there might be nothing for dancers,

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mashmani and these times are the only

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times that you have cultural activities

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right there. And where do you as a gy if

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you're interested in learning how to do

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flouncing in in having a deeper

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understanding of all these different

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colorful people that we see on the road

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there is absolutely no place that that

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can happen. Honorable members and that

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says that we're in A SAD STATE. NOTHING

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IN THIS BUDGET ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN

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THIS PEOPLE CENTERED BUDGET IS FOR THE

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people who are part of the arts.

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You know, I listened to the presentation

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of Honorable Jacobs

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and I would like to take a little

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excerpt from what was said because

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before getting to this house, if there

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is one thing that irks me greatly is the

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fact that political parties in this

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country, if they did not build something

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or it's not their brainchild, they leave

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it to fall apart. And that is

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unfortunate because it is not the

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political party who suffers as A RESULT

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BUT THE PEOPLE of this country who

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suffers as a result. YOU KNOW I HEARD

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THE HONORABLE MENTION THE LEGACY OF THE

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PNC IS DARBON PARK.

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Additionally he said the athletes are in

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their hanging out clothes. Now the only

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people in their hanging out clothes are

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persons who are homeless, people who

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have a disability and all of these sorts

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of things. They have nowhere to go.

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Their family has thrown them out. DRUG

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ADDICTS. THOSE ARE NOT PEOPLE THAT WE

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MAKE fun of. Honorable members. WE

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SHOULD NOT BE SENT TO SUCH A PLACE WHERE

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WE LOOK DOWN ON PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THE

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POSITION THAT THEY are placed in.

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I did not appreciate that for one

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second. Now, let me tell you um

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honorable u member Jacobs, I don't want

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I didn't say that to because I I mean

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ill, but I'm hoping that you do better.

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However, I must tell you that in my

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preparations to get here, I found out

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about how things are going as it relates

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to both ministers because I want to

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represent people. And based on what the

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people on the ground are saying, Jacobs

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is actually the minister that trying.

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The other minister that WAS THERE, HE

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AIN'T trying nothing.

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>> NOTHING. SO I THANK YOU VERY MUCH AT

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LEAST FOR PUTTING effort as it relates

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to um sports in this country. Now that

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honorable member has no understanding of

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sports. When he was at QC and they play

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a little scrubby outside, HE COME WITH

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KNEE GUARD SHIN BAD SORTS OF THINGS.

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THAT HONORABLE MEMBER IS THE ONLY PERSON

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IN THIS COUNTRY TAG UP TO GO AND PLAY A

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SCRUBBY.

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SO HE HAS NO understanding of how these

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things work. But I additionally WANT TO

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SAY THAT WHILE THIS MINISTRY focuses on

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sports and culture, it also affects the

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mothers. It affects the fathers who got

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to go around and beg. They can't afford

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pegs for the children. You understand

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me? It is unfortunate.

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>> Deporties. Speaking about deportes, um,

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honorable member, um, I noticed you have

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a vested interest in deportes. So I

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brought this article here for you

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honorable member that says LET ME READ

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IT. STAB news dated November 4, 2009.

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US visa

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US visa was revoked from honorable Kwami

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McCoy

24:07

BECAUSE YOU INTERESTED you think you are

24:10

arm of the US government

24:14

AND TO CONTINUE HONORABLE MEMBERS

24:17

BECAUSE I AM HERE TODAY. I am here today

24:20

TO REPRESENT THE YOUTH THAT WE ARE

24:22

FAILING IN THIS HONORABLE HOUSE.

24:24

>> Honorable member, the honorable minister

24:26

of parliamentary affairs is on her feet.

24:29

>> Point of order, Mr. Mr. Speaker, the

24:32

honorable member needs to retract her

24:34

statement. The honorable member has a US

24:36

visa. We do not

24:38

>> I dated. It is dated.

24:40

>> It is dated.

24:43

Honorable uh minister, the honorable

24:47

member is quoting from a 2009 Stabbrook

24:50

News article,

24:52

>> right? Saying that the visa was revoked

24:55

in 2009.

24:56

>> I don't know where our sources are from.

24:58

Where's the source?

25:00

>> What is the source?

25:01

>> Could be Starbucks news article

25:04

>> November 4, 2009. Is that is that is

25:06

that our sources now?

25:08

>> Mr. Speaker,

25:09

>> continue honorable member.

25:10

>> Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. are

25:12

appreciated.

25:14

Mr. Speaker,

25:16

Mr. Speaker, I have a list of

25:19

recommendations even though I will

25:20

include some in between the

25:22

presentation. But let me tell you

25:24

something. I would like to draw your

25:25

attention, Mr. Speaker, to two men WHO

25:29

FOR TWO men who HAVE BEEN HELPING WHO

25:32

HAVE BEEN assisting people as it relates

25:34

TO SPORTS BECAUSE WE HAVE NO POLICY that

25:37

covers our young athletes. There is a

25:39

young man in the USA who answers to the

25:42

name Andy Madaz King. And there's a

25:45

gentleman who passed just a few months

25:47

ago. That man has been a powerhouse and

25:50

a champion. And I'm sure that honorable

25:53

member of sports can attest to that. And

25:55

his name was Joseph Rancumar.

25:59

Mr. Joseph Rancumar is one of those

26:02

people who we have sports men and women

26:04

who go over there. Oh my god. The mother

26:06

can't afford things. the father can't

26:08

afford things and I am saying that if we

26:11

had a policy in place we would not be in

26:13

THIS POSITION BECAUSE IN AS MUCH AS

26:16

THERE IS ALL THIS EXCITEMENT AND GRAND

26:19

WHEN OUR artists come back in the

26:20

country from performing overseas and

26:23

they hang these wonderful medals around

26:25

their necks for which we are proud of as

26:27

A NATION THAT IS ALL that they are

26:29

getting in very MANY CASES BECAUSE VERY

26:32

MANY OF THEM DID NOT HAVE THE money to

26:34

go there we got to go to the business

26:36

community we got to go auntie, we got to

26:38

beg, they got to call overseas. AND WE

26:40

CANNOT BE THE FASTEST GROWING ECONOMY IN

26:43

THE WORLD AND HAVE OUR ATHLETES AND OUR

26:46

ARTISTS LIVING LIKE BEGGARS IN THIS

26:48

COUNTRY.

26:52

It is disgrace disgraceful and

26:55

despicable.

26:57

AND I DO HOPE BECAUSE I DO know

27:00

>> remember I thought you said at the

27:02

beginning you read all of these words

27:04

that are

27:05

>> which one is it, sir?

27:07

Right.

27:08

>> Oh, the grace.

27:10

>> Sorry, sir.

27:10

>> Amazing grace.

27:11

>> Amazing grace. Thank you very Thank you

27:14

very much, Mr. Speaker. My my humble

27:16

apologies. It's a lot of words and we

27:18

were only given it on the first day. I

27:19

tried to remember as much as I could. Um

27:23

>> to continue. I remember your visa was

27:25

taken TO CONTINUE. Honorable members,

27:30

one of the things that we have to look

27:32

at, ONE OF THE things that we have to

27:34

look at, honorable members, is our

27:37

coaches. Oh my god. WE HAVE COACHES WHO

27:40

DEDICATE THEIR LIVES TO THE CHILDREN in

27:42

this country. YOU UNDERSTAND ME? WHEN

27:44

THEY DON'T HAVE THE COACHES go out to

27:45

their way, I HAVE NEVER MET A WEALTHY

27:48

COACH IN my life in this country. NEVER.

27:51

AND THOSE ARE PEOPLE WHO GIVE, WHO

27:53

ASSIST, WHO AID in ensuring that our

27:55

athletes go out there and do well. But

27:57

as I WAS SAYING, WE GO TO THE airport

28:00

and the honorable MEMBER PUTS ON A

28:02

FANTASTIC SHOW WHERE THEY HAVE ALL THIS

28:04

STEEL pan beating and all of these sorts

28:06

of things. Oh my god. If we had a policy

28:09

in place, it would have informed what

28:11

those people will be getting. If you

28:13

come home WITH A GOLD MEDAL, IF you can

28:14

get a HOUSE LOT OR IF YOU CAN GET A

28:16

HOUSE OR IF WE CAN GIVE YOU A CAR, BUT

28:18

THERE IS NOTHING THAT INFORMS THAT. SO

28:20

WHEN THAT GRAND ORDER IS FINISHED for

28:22

that one day, it is finished. that

28:25

cannot be acceptable by any stretch of

28:28

the imagination.

28:30

One of the things I noted within um

28:33

within the budget is the billion dollar

28:37

and change that is put to maintaining

28:40

and upkeeping the grounds the community

28:42

center grounds in this country. LISTEN,

28:46

WHEN I READ THAT, I thought that this

28:48

guy may very well be a comedian and he

28:50

doesn't know it as well.

28:53

WHEN YOU GO AROUND THIS country and you

28:55

look AT THE DEPLORABLE STATE THIS

28:57

HONORABLE member uh she's not here NAME

28:59

OF FLU BEST BROUGHT A PICTURE WITH COWS

29:02

AND SO ON OUT THERE having a frolicking

29:04

time the place without light you

29:06

understand me now we are talking about

29:08

the fastest growing economy and we

29:10

cannot feel comfortable as citizens of

29:12

this country to think that all that

29:14

matters that you got a ball field the

29:16

grass low you put some lights that is

29:18

development

29:20

>> where do they go where do they go to

29:23

ensure that they do the little washing

29:24

off, they warming up and all of that. WE

29:26

HAVE NOT PUT SYSTEMS IN PLACE FOR these

29:28

sorts of things because our thinking is

29:30

not futuristic.

29:32

>> Yeah. YEAH.

29:33

>> YOU HAVE BARTA FOR EXAMPLE, I'm a

29:35

bartition by birth, honorable members.

29:37

And as a and in Barta, I can tell you

29:40

that nothing looks significantly

29:42

different from when I was a child

29:44

growing up there. And how could we have

29:47

billions of dollars, billions of dollars

29:51

year come, year go AND IT IS NOT

29:53

REFLECTED IN THE WAY OUR country looks.

29:59

No, nobody's saying that we don't

30:01

appreciate. Nobody's saying that we

30:04

don't appreciate the work that the

30:05

ministry is doing, but we would

30:08

appreciate greatly it if it is done with

30:11

holistic thought that covers everything.

30:14

We have the beautiful synthetic ground

30:16

across there, but do we have everything

30:18

as it relates to international

30:20

standards? I heard our honorable Don't

30:22

say yes, sir. It's not true. I heard our

30:24

honorable member um uh Sarah um speaking

30:29

about our member across here as it

30:31

relates to the indigenous peoples. And

30:34

let me tell you something. Well, whether

30:36

or not he's a little Maruka, he got a

30:38

big MARUKA HEART. AND THAT IS WHAT IS

30:40

IMPORTANT.

30:43

NOW, LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING. WHEN WE

30:46

TALK ABOUT SPORTS AND CULTURE, TELL ME

30:48

WHERE THAT IS REPRESENTED ACROSS THIS

30:51

COUNTRY. POINT TO THE AMARINDIAN

30:53

COMMUNITY BECAUSE THOSE CHILDREN,

30:56

THEY'RE BODIES OF WATER EVERYWHERE. SO,

30:58

they're swimming since they come out.

31:00

You understand me? There's nobody who's

31:02

going to say, "Let us put a system in

31:04

place WHERE WE CAN TRAIN THESE YOUNG

31:06

WOMEN AND TRAIN THESE YOUNG WOMEN SO

31:08

THAT THEY CAN COME BACK WITH GOLD MEDALS

31:10

FROM THE OLYMPICS." THAT does not take

31:12

rocket science. Honorable members of

31:15

this house, we cannot continue to fail

31:18

our young PEOPLE LIKE THAT. AS IT

31:20

RELATES TO AS IT RELATES to youth, YOU

31:24

KNOW WHAT IS SAD?

31:26

>> YOU KNOW WHAT IS SAD? We have um

31:29

Minister Onage building a police station

31:32

THAT IS FIVE OR SIX STORIES HIGH. BUT

31:35

POINT ME TO THE BUILDING THAT IS FIVE OR

31:38

SIX STORIES HIGH as it relates to um

31:41

rehabilitation of these young men and

31:43

women who have BEEN COMMITTING CRIMES.

31:45

THAT CANNOT BE A BUDGET THAT CATERS TO

31:47

THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY. WHICH

31:49

PEOPLE?

31:51

THERE EXISTS NO CENTER FOR THE PURPOSE

31:54

OF EDUCATION, LEARNING, UPLIFTMENT,

31:56

empowerment of any SORT THAT IS SO MANY

31:58

STORIES HIGH. SO CLEARLY WE WE ARE

32:01

PREPARING FOR FOR criminals to house

32:03

criminals and so on. So we billing we

32:06

billing WE ARE BILLING BIGGER PRISONS

32:09

BIGGER POLICE STATION BIGGER HOUSING

32:12

PLACES AND WE HAVE EVERY single day in

32:14

the news REPEAT OFFENDER. IF THAT DOES

32:17

NOT SAY SOMETHING TO YOU, THE MINISTER

32:20

OF YOUTH, I DON'T KNOW WHO IT IS GOING

32:22

TO SAY SOMETHING TO

32:24

>> WHAT system in THIS BUDGET DO YOU HAVE

32:28

THAT CATERS FOR THAT? Absolutely none.

32:32

Honorable members,

32:36

>> we look at the, YOU KNOW, IT'S SO

32:38

DIFFICULT TO get information in this

32:40

country. Every bit of information you

32:42

get got to be from some long time ago in

32:45

terms OF STATS. BUT IN 2001, the Guyana

32:49

Police Force published some information

32:52

that really is not much information, but

32:54

they publish. And in THAT REPORT, WHAT

32:58

IT said is that over 60 young people

33:04

below the age of 30

33:07

were arrested for committing crimes

33:10

within this country. AND IF THAT DOES

33:12

NOT SAY THAT we have to take a different

33:16

approach as it relates to what we are

33:18

doing WITH OUR NOW NOW UNDERSTAND ME

33:21

HONORABLE members I understand I

33:23

understand my honorable friend Mr. McCoy

33:26

may HAVE DIFFICULTY UNDERSTANDING, BUT

33:29

TRY AT LEAST TO TRY. AT LEAST TO TRY.

33:33

NOW, LET ME TELL YOU. LET me tell you,

33:35

honorable members, I will talk to y'all

33:37

over here. Y'all listen to me, too, cuz

33:39

I'm with y'all, but I just when I stand

33:40

up this way, I will see in a certain

33:42

face. So, let me tell you something,

33:45

honorable, Let me tell you something,

33:47

honorable members. We have got to do

33:50

better. when we have more of our young

33:52

men and women, we look at things like um

33:54

teenage pregnancy. We look at things

33:56

like school dropouts. I live in an area

33:59

where there's so I I've reported I've

34:01

called and let me uh there's been one

34:03

time that I did reach out to the

34:05

honorable member uh Vindia Pad and I

34:08

cannot lie she did um respond promptly

34:11

and I applaud her for that.

34:16

There was a young mother and her child

34:18

that came um in the wee hours of the

34:20

night with a situation and I don't know

34:23

what the minister doing up with that.

34:24

Oh, I was very happy that she was up but

34:26

she did what she had to do.

34:29

But these people even though those

34:31

specific situations may come under that

34:34

ministry, we still talking about young

34:36

people. And who is the minister that

34:38

covering youth?

34:40

This cannot be the way that we continue

34:42

to operate within this country.

34:45

sitting down right there

34:46

>> right but he he is not able to direct

34:49

because we have another person there who

34:51

wants to have his own way all the time

34:54

now if if I may um continue honorable

34:56

members because with all of this

34:58

destruction is so difficult to keep up

35:00

let me tell you what I have done

35:02

>> honorable member you may continue for

35:04

five minutes but conclude

35:08

>> what story is this thank you very much

35:10

Mr. speaker. Now, you know, when I look

35:13

at the when I look at the um budget,

35:16

honorable members, it it took me back to

35:18

the saying right now that a lot of

35:21

people are using. You know,

35:24

>> I wanted to ask the honorable Ramson,

35:26

how you deal with raster, sir. You don't

35:29

give we nothing. You don't do nothing

35:31

for our young people within this

35:33

country. And it is unfortunate. Now,

35:35

what I have put together is a list of

35:37

suggestions. Unfortunately, in the

35:39

interest of time, I may not be able to

35:41

go through all of them, but one, let me

35:43

go through a couple of them. One of the

35:45

things I I meant I listed here is to

35:48

teach Gy history, folklore, and so on

35:51

within our schools. And I do believe

35:53

that that is one of the things that our

35:55

ministry needs to ensure that they do to

35:58

look at local language, proverbs,

36:00

storytelling, and our heroes and so on

36:02

should be included in our education

36:04

system. I do believe that those things

36:07

help not only with with ensuring that

36:09

our culture is preserved but also to

36:11

help people to have some sense of

36:14

identity in terms of who we are as a

36:16

people. Um as well as grants should be

36:19

given for short films, films, sorry,

36:21

stage plays, documentaries, dancing, um

36:24

painters, writers and so forth. those

36:26

are people who are starving for help

36:28

within the industry as well as tax

36:30

incentives or breaks for artists who

36:32

produce local content uh within Guyana.

36:35

Uh most important and urgent of course

36:38

is putting together the the policy. I do

36:41

remember that the in 2016 AP and you had

36:45

this guy who was supposed to create the

36:46

policy um and the policy is well there's

36:50

no policy and then the PPP took that

36:52

same guy to create the policy and here

36:55

we are in 2026 with no policy. Um so we

36:59

definitely need to look to having those

37:01

things um in place. uh as well as it

37:04

relates to sports to look at giving um

37:07

incentives giving incentives to our

37:12

coaches to ensure that across this

37:14

country be it Burbese Bartika Esquibbo

37:17

uh Letham wherever it is that sporting

37:21

um coaches are are trained and are

37:24

placed within those communities. Um

37:26

Georgetown our region 4 is not Guyana.

37:28

Guyana extends to an an additional nine

37:32

regions. Nine regions and that needs to

37:35

be represented and replicated

37:37

everywhere. Um, additionally the coaches

37:41

Oh, do something for the coaches now. Oh

37:44

child's thank you. Um, so additionally,

37:48

um, I'm trying to ensure that I have

37:50

everything as it relates to, um,

37:52

statistics and the data and so on. I

37:54

think it's important that we get those

37:55

things out there as well so that we can

37:56

understand how to fix the problem. We

37:58

cannot fix a problem that we do not know

38:01

how much of it exists, where it exists

38:03

and so forth. So those sorts of

38:05

analytical data is very very important.

38:07

I'm really trying to rush through all

38:09

that I have to say. But more importantly

38:11

um as a gy and as a citizen of this

38:14

country two more minutes as a gy as a

38:17

citizen of this country I think that it

38:19

is the onus of us as representatives of

38:24

the people regardless of how many people

38:26

voted for us or did not vote for us love

38:29

us or support us. If we are seated here

38:31

within this house, it is because the

38:33

people have a certain degree of

38:35

confidence in us and that confidence

38:37

must be represented in what we give to

38:40

our people.

38:42

We cannot you know it is sad that in

38:44

very many ways people say oh this

38:46

politics or this is how politicians

38:48

stay. I do not appreciate that for one

38:50

second. How politicians should stay is

38:53

in the way that caters to love for

38:56

country and love for people. In

38:58

concluding,

39:00

I would like to leave I would like to

39:03

leave a little something that I picked

39:06

up along the way. So to conclude, I will

39:08

leave some of my thoughts as well as

39:11

some of the thoughts as um from our

39:14

honorable member Charles Ramson.

39:17

as it relates to this budget and how it

39:20

looks and how it represents the people

39:24

and whether or not the budget of 2026 is

39:28

for the people and that is when failures

39:31

come they come in batty lions. Thank you

39:35

members of the

39:39

>> Thank you very very much honorable

39:42

member Miss Odessa

39:45

Primus.

39:47

Before

39:48

I invite the honorable minister culture,

39:51

youth and sport, I just want to

39:53

recognize

39:55

three special young people. uh Miss Ara

40:00

Aria Murley,

40:02

Miss

40:04

Javevel Atalie

40:06

and Master Obama Prosper.

40:11

Uh just stand. Let us acknowledge you

40:16

please.

40:19

two of two of those young people I know

40:22

all of their lives and young Obama

40:27

uh his grandmother and I are grow match

40:29

and he's born in the same street I was

40:32

born with me at James and Hawk Street

40:35

all by thank you very much

40:40

honorable minister of culture youth and

40:44

sport

40:46

honorable Charles Ramson

40:58

of the mountain.

41:13

>> Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

41:19

Mr. Speaker,

41:22

>> after listening to the honorable member,

41:25

Miss

41:26

>> Odessa Primus,

41:28

I heard this morning that the leader of

41:32

the opposition

41:34

had some migraines.

41:36

Having listened to Miss Odessa's

41:38

presentation

41:40

and her being the general secretary that

41:43

he is faced with,

41:45

>> I can understand why he is getting

41:47

migraines.

41:56

>> Mr. Speaker, as a threetime MP,

41:59

as a two-time minister, as a two-time

42:03

cabinet member,

42:05

>> I am very pleased and it's a privilege

42:08

to support the largest budget in this

42:12

country's history.

42:15

And I also want to take the opportunity

42:18

to congratulate

42:20

>> the honorable minister Ashni Singh

42:23

>> and his team at the ministry of finance,

42:27

his excellency president Ali

42:31

and the vice president for crafting this

42:33

budget and for all of the successes that

42:37

we've had because this is not an

42:39

ordinary budget, Mr. Speaker. This is a

42:42

budget that comes immediately after our

42:44

first successful five years in

42:48

government.

42:53

And after that first five years, we saw

42:58

the decimation of the opposition at the

43:01

end of that election.

43:04

And the politics and the and our

43:08

economics are the same. They are

43:11

connected.

43:12

>> It is very important that when we come

43:14

and present

43:16

>> our budget to this country,

43:19

>> it is how this budget is framed and how

43:22

it is connected to people.

43:24

>> The true test will always come when the

43:29

people have their say. And what did they

43:32

say on September 1st? They said quite

43:38

clearly

43:39

that

43:42

instead of having a one seat majority

43:44

that we had in 2020, we now have a 7

43:49

seat majority.

43:53

>> The 242,000

43:56

votes that we obtained, our nearest

43:59

competitor had 109,000

44:03

votes.

44:05

That's 130,000 plus votes difference.

44:10

>> We won eight out of 10 regions and we

44:14

won region 4 for the first time.

44:18

I want to place that on record and I

44:22

want to thank all of the people across

44:24

this country who supported us. We are

44:27

grateful for your support all of you

44:30

everywhere.

44:32

And on the other hand, we have APNU who

44:35

moved from 31 seats to 12.

44:40

We they moved from 217,000

44:45

votes to 77,000 votes

44:49

>> and they were just in government 5 years

44:51

ago and now they're not even the largest

44:55

party in opposition.

44:59

And we faced all of this criticism for 5

45:03

years. I've heard for 5 years they would

45:07

come and criticize this People's

45:09

Progressive Party government budget.

45:12

Every single time that they would make

45:14

this presentation

45:16

and now the truth has been revealed.

45:20

What do people think? People reendors

45:24

this People's Progressive Party

45:26

government. his excellency president Ali

45:30

for a second term and a wider margin

45:35

and I want and I don't really care what

45:38

the honorable members people like to

45:42

miss Odessa

45:44

the honorable members Jerretta Shirrod

45:48

and Natasha St. Lewis, a number of them,

45:51

I don't really care what they have to

45:53

say because they've held more parties

45:56

than hits and jams.

46:01

>> And I hate to break this to you, but you

46:04

chasing you changing your parties

46:08

changing your parties will do bring no

46:11

benefit to who you are or what you bring

46:16

to your party. It will re result in the

46:19

same thing because all of your efforts

46:22

resulting in the shrinking of the PNC.

46:25

Can you imagine today that the PNC is

46:29

not even allowed by wind more than 15

46:32

minutes to speak here? Not even allowed

46:35

a a shadow ministry.

46:38

>> They don't even GET TO SPEAK ON THE

46:40

FINAL DAY.

46:43

>> That is what has transpired here. And

46:46

our governance in the last 5 years has

46:50

changed this country in a way that will

46:53

change it forever. We have now been

46:56

campaigning in areas that hit a two. We

47:00

were unable to do that.

47:02

>> We are now comfortable in every single

47:05

community because we worked in every

47:08

single community for the last 5 years.

47:12

every single day, every single month,

47:15

every single year. So that EVEN WHEN WE

47:17

WERE CAMPAIGNING, they asked for our

47:20

shirts, they asked for our flags, they

47:23

put it up, and they voted for us.

47:27

>> Now, and I want you to know when I said

47:31

to this house, go back to the answer. I

47:34

said we would beat them by at least

47:37

three seats. We did that. And I'm going

47:40

to say it now. We are GOING TO BEAT YOU

47:44

AT THE NEXT election at a with a larger

47:47

margin.

47:48

>> That's right. That's right.

47:49

>> AND I'M VERY happy that the AFC is no

47:53

longer part of this parliament. I'm very

47:57

happy not to see sticky fingers over

47:59

there. Miss video mega who used to show

48:02

me middle finger in this parliament and

48:04

hold up signs. I am very happy AND ALL

48:08

OF YOU CONTRIBUTED TO THE DECLINE OF the

48:11

AFC, the same person who is talking

48:13

right now.

48:15

>> The only person who I will miss and I

48:17

just want you to know I'll miss

48:18

>> Annette.

48:19

>> I miss Annette.

48:21

>> Just let you know if you're watching. I

48:23

know you're watching.

48:26

And from the wind side, I want you to

48:28

also know this has been a very

48:32

disappointing and not disappointing

48:35

because I didn't expect better, but it's

48:37

been a an abysmal performance. This has

48:40

been an abysmal performance. Incoherent

48:43

arguments, struggling to read their

48:46

scripts, no economic analysis, no

48:49

costbenefit analysis, no policy debate,

48:53

nothing. No understanding of THE

48:56

NUMBERS. JUST A BUNCH OF NON- ENTITIES.

49:00

A bunch of non- entities. People that we

49:04

don't even know their names.

49:07

And what it has proven is that you are

49:10

not even ready for opposition. You are

49:14

not shadows. You are shallows.

49:18

AND THE FACT THAT TWO DAYS BEFORE this

49:20

budget you have to go and put up a

49:23

picture with Christopher Ram or I

49:26

shouldn't even call the name but with

49:28

that person showing that you are

49:30

preparing for the budget seeing the

49:31

budget for the first time. It is an

49:34

embarrassment. You are embarrassing

49:36

yourselves and you need to stop it.

49:41

>> And who are they taking advice from? a

49:43

bunch of PPP haters and dead weights,

49:47

people who have never won an election

49:50

before. And if you choose a comedian as

49:54

your general secretary, nobody will ever

49:58

take you seriously.

50:05

>> AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW SOMETHING AS

50:07

WELL.

50:09

NOT BECAUSE

50:13

>> not because you have been a comedian, it

50:16

makes you an expert in culture.

50:24

>> And for all of the people who came over

50:26

to the wind party, just just so that you

50:29

know, if you can be bought by someone,

50:33

you can be bought

50:35

>> by anyone.

50:39

You have no loyalty to the Muhammads.

50:42

You have no loyalty to the wind. The

50:44

wind is not built on a foundation. You

50:47

as soon as he disappears, you will

50:50

disappear too. YOU ARE LOYAL TO HIS

50:52

POCKET.

50:56

>> I want you to know we ON THIS SIDE OF

50:59

THE HOUSE, WE CAN'T BE BOUGHT. I

51:02

CERTAINLY CAN'T.

51:03

>> MR. SPEAKER,

51:05

>> MR. SPEAKER,

51:06

>> go ahead. The honorable member,

51:07

>> I'm standing up on 41

51:11

six.

51:13

>> Mr. Speaker, the member is there

51:15

imputing improper motive to the entire

51:17

win team and I would ask that he takes

51:20

that that you take that statement off of

51:22

the record. Mr. Honorable member, I

51:25

can't uphold that point of order because

51:29

on all sides we've been talking about

51:32

the name of the political parties and

51:36

that has been allowed.

51:40

The second point there would have been

51:43

the surname or the first name that he

51:47

used and with the use of great bishop

51:52

uh great bishop nor name of s or flues

51:57

doesn't directly speak to any honorable

52:01

member. Go ahead, honorable minister.

52:08

>> Yet another display of incompetence and

52:11

unfamiliarity with the rules.

52:14

Unfamiliarity with the rules. I said

52:17

this when we came here and I took our we

52:21

took our oath. I said they are going to

52:23

hold us to account. People who have

52:25

never had any experience in government

52:28

or don't know a clue of what they're

52:30

going to talk about, they can hold a

52:32

government to account. Get give me a

52:35

break.

52:37

>> Non- entities and nonachievers.

52:45

it. We have not even heard from anyone

52:48

on the other side that we are going to

52:52

have to spend less money from oil in

52:56

this economy this year.

52:59

>> No one from their side has mentioned

53:01

that and it's very important when we're

53:04

talking about the development of a

53:06

country.

53:08

>> We know that we found oil here in this

53:10

country in 2015. We develop we started

53:14

to produce in 2019

53:16

2020 we started to spend oil money in

53:19

this economy 2022 2023

53:23

countries that have done well have had

53:26

the maturity from an opposition so that

53:29

you can have sensible discussions about

53:31

how you plan for the future. You cannot

53:34

have a sensible discussion with this

53:37

group.

53:38

>> None whatsoever. They haven't even

53:41

mentioned that. All they're talking

53:43

about is how you can spend more oil

53:46

money, but at the same time they want us

53:48

to hold back spending on infrastructure.

53:50

How is the country going to develop?

53:52

>> How is the country going to develop? You

53:55

have to make a decision. Do we want to

53:58

develop the country or not? Do we want

54:01

to live in a developed country or not?

54:04

How are you going to make the

54:06

investment? And that lower oil revenue

54:09

is just an example of what can come in

54:12

the future because the fact is is that

54:16

commodity prices are cyclical in nature.

54:19

All oil economies have been a affected

54:23

they have been affected when they have

54:26

had lower oil prices. And I want to just

54:30

point to the fact that the way that we

54:32

have been managing it is that where we

54:35

spend on the capital expenditure, it

54:38

means that we have the ability to lower

54:40

that lever. Lower that lever if we need

54:43

to so we can scale it up back during the

54:46

good days. But the fact is

54:51

the fact is is that last year we earned

54:55

about 2 billion. The previous year we

54:58

earned about two billion. That is not a

55:01

lot of money. That is not a lot of

55:04

money. We are nowhere near where we need

55:08

to be. Our factors and the fundamentals

55:12

of our economic growth is not there yet.

55:17

We have to keep building. We have to

55:20

keep investing because we have to build

55:23

a sustainable and resilient economy.

55:27

Resilient.

55:30

THAT IS WHY READ THE SPEECH. Read the

55:33

speech that Minister Ashne

55:37

wrote and presented and listen to the

55:41

president speak. Listen to the vice

55:43

president speak. They speak about

55:46

building a sustainable but resilient

55:50

economy.

55:51

>> The fundamentals.

55:53

We have to keep investing in our energy.

55:57

>> What are they talking about in relation

55:59

to that? We don't have enough. You think

56:02

300 megawatt on our for the gas to power

56:06

project is enough to build a resilient

56:09

economy. It's not. You have TO GET MORE

56:12

POWER. YOU think on the connectivity,

56:16

THE BRIDGES, all of the the the factors

56:19

of productivity, the opening up of land

56:22

and highways. You think we have all of

56:24

what we need right now? We don't.

56:27

>> The honorable member Sharma Solomon and

56:29

the the group on that side is saying we

56:32

are say we shouldn't be spending so much

56:34

on infrastructure, but yet he's calling

56:36

for a bridge over the de over the

56:38

Barbies River. It means that you need to

56:42

spend more money on the infrastructure.

56:45

So CN Sharma relax

56:52

>> and and the point is the main point is

56:57

>> I want you to understand something on

57:00

the extreme case is a country called

57:04

Hold on hold on there is a country

57:07

called Nau in in the Pacific Ocean

57:12

listen there's a country called Nau

57:15

in the Pacific Ocean. The country was

57:19

the richest country in the 1970s

57:23

because they found phosphate and listen

57:26

the man. Listen, let me finish the man.

57:28

And then this was the richest country

57:32

and they went down the road. I'm going

57:34

to use the extreme situation so you

57:36

understand what are the risks and the

57:39

perils we face if we do not make the

57:43

right decisions.

57:46

>> They were the richest country in the

57:48

1970s.

57:50

Had a higher GDP per capita than the

57:52

United States of America in the 1970s.

57:56

They used to walk around with money in

57:59

pillow cases on their back.

58:02

And today they are one of the poorest

58:06

countries in the western in the world.

58:09

Why? Because they did not use their

58:12

bounty for their investment. They have

58:15

to take the revenue. GOD GOD BLESSED US.

58:20

GOD blessed us. We have to take the

58:24

revenue and we use it towards

58:27

investment. And the resilient investment

58:30

is our human capital. Yes, read the book

58:35

The BIRTH OF PLENTY and also read the

58:38

book A Splendid Exchange. Both written

58:42

by William Bernstein. You will

58:45

understand. I know you don't read. I

58:47

know you don't over there don't read.

58:50

Readers are leaders.

58:53

>> Read it and you will understand why it

58:55

is.

58:56

>> You know I don't read.

58:58

>> Sorry, Mr. Speaker. On the opposition

58:59

side,

59:00

>> you're speaking to me.

59:02

On the opposition side,

59:04

readers are leaders. You have to

59:06

understand why we have to make this

59:08

investment. Now, you think we don't want

59:11

to be a popular government and just

59:13

distribute everything. We're already

59:15

distributing a whole lot, but we have to

59:18

balance our investment with our

59:22

distribution. That's why all of our

59:24

grants have increased, but that's why we

59:26

have to continue to invest. Now, Mr.

59:29

Speaker, I want to turn now to our over

59:32

the last 5 years how we have done at the

59:36

Ministry of Culture, youth and sport

59:38

because what is important

59:41

>> the same criticism that we had from Miss

59:45

Odessa Primos, SHE DESPITE THE FACT that

59:50

the APNU AFC removed the Ministry of

59:54

Culture, youth and sport, they disbanded

59:57

it. She was a supporter of the APNU.

60:00

>> Yes, she was.

60:01

>> She was a supporter. You didn't love

60:03

young people then.

60:05

>> You didn't love their voices then.

60:08

>> You never said anything about that.

60:10

That's right, Vic.

60:13

When we

60:15

>> I want everybody to understand when we

60:18

restored this ministry, it was because

60:21

we knew at the level of the People's

60:23

Progressive Party, we knew how important

60:26

this ministry was then and that it is

60:29

now. It must have a say at the level of

60:32

the cabinet. And because of that too, I

60:34

want to welcome Steven.

60:38

I WANT TO ALSO WELCOME JAMES and I also

60:41

want to acknowledge the hard work

60:44

another MP the DIRECTOR OF YOUTH. I WILL

60:47

TAKE a a sur sing OVER ALL OF Y'ALL

60:52

COMBINED ON MY team

60:55

all of y'all combined.

61:01

We undertook the responsibility of of

61:04

building five stadiums and those are

61:07

huge undertakings IN FACT AND ALL OF

61:10

THOSE stadiums will be open this year

61:15

and I want to be clear the first one is

61:17

happening on Saturday. It is going to be

61:20

a huge event and it's beautiful. It is a

61:23

really really beautiful facility.

61:27

THERE ARE VERY FEW COUNTRIES IN BAYROCK

61:30

IN LYNDON in Bayrock in Lyndon after

61:33

they lied to the people. Sharma Solomon,

61:37

honorable member and all of the other

61:40

PNC PEOPLE. THEY LIED to the people in

61:44

Lynen or they told falsehood. You you

61:47

reminded us this is the start of your

61:49

second term as a minister and you were

61:52

here before.

61:53

>> I would I withdraw the word. I I

61:56

withdraw the word lie and I say to you

61:59

they misinformed they misinformed to say

62:02

that that

62:03

>> this the track would be finished in 2018

62:07

or 2019 or 2020 and they never even

62:11

purchased the synthetic material.

62:14

TAKE THAT TO YOUR BANK ANY BANKET

62:20

AND YOU ARE WERE THE MAYOR. YOU WERE THE

62:23

MAYOR. YOU ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR WIND

62:27

COMING AND TAKE OVER LYNEN.

62:34

>> YOU WEREN'T A MAYOR. YOU WERE NOT A M A

62:37

Y O R. You were a M A R E. You got no

62:45

>> AND I WILL TELL YOU

62:48

>> THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT I will tell you

62:50

too IS THAT THESE STADIUMS, FOUR OF

62:53

THESE STADIUMS, four of these stadiums

62:56

will cost LESS THAN THE COST OF THE

62:59

DORBAN PARK PROJECT.

63:05

AND MOST IMPORTANT, $600 MILLION THAT

63:09

WAS UNACCOUNTED FOR, that is not

63:11

happening in our ministry.

63:17

IN THE LAST 5 YEARS, WE INVESTED IN OVER

63:21

600 community grounds across this

63:24

country.

63:27

>> And I WANT TO TELL THE YOUNG MAN FROM

63:30

from region one, I'm not going to call

63:32

his name. He's a young man. And quite

63:34

frankly, he hasn't earned that privilege

63:36

as yet.

63:39

>> You say you WANT TO GET RICH. YOU also

63:42

said that that you want you're worried

63:44

about young people and being led the

63:46

wrong way. He doesn't even KNOW THAT YOU

63:49

ARE ALREADY being led the wrong way.

63:53

YOU'RE FOLLOWING A MAN

63:55

>> WHO IS SANCTIONED AT THE highest level

63:59

who is an who is now a fugitive offender

64:02

who was committed almost every possible

64:05

wrong. You're following that man and you

64:08

worried about young people being led

64:11

astray.

64:14

AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT BEING RICH, IT

64:17

IS FOR THAT REASON THAT the People's

64:19

Progressive Party has the development of

64:21

a the the DEVELOPMENT BANK IN OUR OUR

64:25

MANIFESTO.

64:26

THAT'S WHY IN FACT WE DON'T EVEN WANT

64:29

only for people to be rich. We want

64:31

people gy people to be wealthy. And

64:34

there's a difference. Wealthy is

64:37

permanent richness. Richness that you

64:40

could pass on to YOUR CHILDREN. THAT'S

64:42

WHY WE DISTRIBUTED OVER 50,000 house

64:45

lots in the last 5 years and we will

64:48

build over 40,000 homes. WE WANT PEOPLE

64:52

TO PASS ON THEIR WEALTH to their

64:54

children

64:55

and this year we will spend another 1.2

64:58

billion in on community grounds. Last

65:01

year, well, over the last 5 years, we

65:04

lit we lit

65:08

145 grounds in this country.

65:12

They set us a target of 25. We did

65:17

145 grounds.

65:19

>> WE STARTED FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THIS

65:22

COUNTRY. We started for the first time

65:25

in this country a national sports

65:28

academy categorized into core and

65:31

non-core sports. WE BUILT STRONG

65:34

RELATIONSHIPS with sports associations

65:37

and all of the sports associations have

65:40

issued their support for us, this

65:43

ministry, THE BUDGET BECAUSE THEY KNOW

65:47

HOW they have benefited.

65:51

>> Importantly as well, we started tracking

65:54

and measuring how many medals our

65:57

athletes started to secure. THEY HAVE

66:00

NEVER BEEN TRACKED BEFORE. In the last

66:03

three years alone, we have secured over

66:06

1,000

66:07

international and regional medals by our

66:11

athletes.

66:13

THAT IS THE HISTORY. ATHLETES ARE DOING

66:16

BETTER NOW THAN THEY HAVE EVER DONE

66:18

BEFORE under the People's Progressive

66:20

Party leadership.

66:28

WE MODERNIZED THE SPORTS HALL. IN 2024,

66:32

I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THIS. In 2024,

66:36

WE HELD 29 international sporting events

66:40

in this country and last year it was 33.

66:44

They don't even understand how difficult

66:46

that is. And I want to thank all of the

66:49

members from the ministry who are here.

66:51

Thank you very much. Thank you.

66:55

>> TO DO 33 INTERNATIONAL sporting events

66:58

in a country that is more than one every

67:02

other week. More than one every other

67:06

week that is driving tourism into our

67:09

country. DEVELOPMENT OF ATHLETES,

67:11

DEVELOPMENT OF TALENT SO THAT THEY CAN

67:14

GET EXPOSURE TO HIGHER LEVELS of

67:15

competition, better levels of coaching.

67:19

We obtained in the last five years as

67:21

well. Oh, importantly as well teams

67:24

departed in 2023.

67:27

We started measuring it 2023

67:30

36 times. In 2004

67:34

they left these shores 73 times. In

67:39

2005,

67:40

2025, sorry, 2025, it wasund

67:46

and two times sporting teams left this

67:51

country. WE'VE SPENT OVER A BILLION

67:54

DOLLARS on sports associations and teams

67:58

leaving this country in the last 5

68:01

years. over a billion dollars.

68:07

>> WE OBTAINED FOR THE FIRST TIME SOMETHING

68:09

we wanted the CPL finals and semifinals.

68:18

>> AND WE ALSO WON, BY THE WAY, WE OBTAINED

68:22

THAT at no cost to the Treasury.

68:26

>> No cost to the Treasury.

68:29

How about that? WE ALSO WON THE CPL FOR

68:33

THE FIRST TIME.

68:38

>> OUR CRICKETERS, OUR cricketers are now

68:41

being scouted and playing in

68:43

international franchise leagues, paying

68:46

getting paid more money than they've

68:48

ever done before. We're talking about

68:50

athletes and coaches. AND I WILL TELL

68:52

YOU ONE OF THEM. If it wasn't for the

68:55

fact that Shamar Joseph didn't play in

68:58

that CPL where we had identified his

69:01

talent,

69:02

>> he would not have made it to the West

69:04

Indies team and then also become the MVP

69:08

for that tournament when West Indies

69:10

beat Australia.

69:12

West Indies.

69:17

>> We also hosted two World Cups. two

69:21

cricket world cups and in the last one

69:26

we were judged the best host most

69:30

organized.

69:35

>> We held the CAC bodybuilding

69:37

championship in over a decade and we

69:39

issued for the first time with the

69:41

international body pro cards right here.

69:45

right here. And also the first one that

69:49

was issued here was won by a Gionese.

69:54

>> And since then, seven pro cards have

69:57

been issued. And we now have a world

70:00

champion in Rosanna Funk.

70:05

>> SOMEONE WHO WE IDENTIFIED early and

70:08

invested in and supported so that she

70:11

can become the world champion.

70:13

>> Lovely. Lovely. Now,

70:17

>> because of our bilateral relationships

70:19

with our ambassadors and other

70:21

countries, we were able to get our elite

70:24

program going. Including last year, we

70:27

had

70:29

Olympic gold medal winner, Olympic gold

70:32

medal winner, Felix Sanchez, come and

70:36

coach our athletes here.

70:40

Hall of Famer came to this country. We

70:42

never even thought that could happen.

70:44

Hakeim Elijah won and we did that again.

70:46

No cost to the ministry, no cost to the

70:49

government. Our football team is now or

70:52

was in the LEAGUE A FOR CONQUER CALF. It

70:58

was in League A for the Conquer Calf,

71:00

which was the first time ever, the

71:03

highest level that we've ever been. We

71:05

talking about it. We've had 15,000

71:10

participants in the learn to swim

71:12

program, including persons with

71:14

disabilities. 15,000 persons. And I want

71:18

to commend Steve and all the team from

71:21

the National Sports Commission.

71:25

WE CONSTRUCTED FOR THE FIRST time and is

71:28

now the best doubles court in the entire

71:32

region for squash.

71:35

We got elected at the UN for in in Paris

71:40

for the UNESCO fund for the elimination

71:43

of sport elimination of doping in sport.

71:47

We held sports conferences for the first

71:49

time and just last year we had our first

71:53

black tide gala for our sports sports

71:56

awards.

71:58

We introduced re reintroduced the Guyana

72:03

games, the Interg Guyana Games, which

72:05

the APN new AFC killed. They killed it.

72:11

>> We passed two pieces of legislation

72:14

including the much desired Horse Racing

72:17

Authority Act. We completed the draft

72:21

for the sports policy and it will be

72:24

approved by cabinet this year. That's

72:27

right.

72:30

>> We obtained approval and held the

72:32

Guyana's global the global super league.

72:36

The global super league which was

72:38

something that totally organic to us and

72:40

is now a successful tournament.

72:43

We distributed more gears in this

72:46

country's history. We have done more

72:49

distribution of sports gears than we

72:51

have ever had in this country's history.

72:54

Yes, we can. People will always want

72:57

more and it's important for us to do

72:59

more.

73:01

>> Minister, the distribution of time says

73:03

you'll need 5 minutes to conclude. So,

73:05

you have that.

73:06

>> There is a lot more that I could speak

73:08

about for sport, but I also want to

73:10

speak about culture because the

73:11

honorable member spoke about some

73:13

things, but I also need to speak about

73:15

some of the work that we've been doing.

73:18

The Guyana Prize for Literature after a

73:20

new AFC abandon it, stop funding it.

73:24

Same group of people that the honorable

73:26

member cares so much said nothing for 5

73:28

years when APNA was in power. We

73:31

restored it, Mr. Speaker.

73:35

>> And we added new categories. Now it's

73:38

being held annually. We added a youth

73:40

category and a non-fiction category. We

73:44

also turned that into a a lit literature

73:47

festival, a buildout of an entire

73:50

festival. That is what we are doing for

73:52

culture. We sat with the drama folks.

73:55

She spoke about the drama festival in

73:58

2023 up until 10:00 at night. We sat

74:02

with the drama folks and we work with

74:04

them on the right to stage initiative

74:07

where the government funds their drama

74:10

plays

74:11

>> and out of that we choose

74:15

it. Those plays come from the Guyana

74:17

Prize for Literature and we fund that

74:20

and all of the revenue is kept for them.

74:26

>> Since then we've held nine successful

74:31

critically acclaimed plays

74:35

the same that we left with that Dr.

74:39

Frank started honorable member when he

74:42

left in 2014 they did nothing to get

74:46

that the institute of created art

74:49

creative arts accredited they did

74:51

nothing in fact the honorable member

74:53

Natasha St. Lewis said it couldn't BE

74:55

DONE. IT COULDN'T be done right here in

74:58

this parliament. We got that registered

75:01

with the National Accredititation

75:03

Council.

75:05

We took our independence flag raising

75:07

ceremony all across this country for the

75:10

first time. We did it in region 2,

75:12

region 9, region 10, region 6 and it was

75:15

a huge success. APNU criticized it. We

75:19

did the mo and our cultural performances

75:22

are now totally fantastic. It is

75:25

modernized. It is refreshing. And I

75:28

would like to thank our department of

75:30

culture for all of the work that they

75:33

have done. And I also want to thank

75:35

Andrew Tindle and the team there and

75:38

Alana Sberan

75:40

who has worked on this

75:44

to unlock new talent. We did the Guyana

75:46

talent search and then we also had at

75:49

Carifesta and the World Expo in Dubai

75:52

and Japan. We had the best performances

75:57

there. We had the best performances

75:59

there. Persons who are involved in our

76:03

programs are doing better now than they

76:06

have ever done before. They are earning

76:08

a good living. They're buying homes.

76:11

They're buying cars or doing

76:13

renovations. All of that is happening

76:16

now. We did also we started the youth

76:19

culture camps where over a thousand

76:21

young people have already been trained

76:24

and I want to assure the honorable

76:26

member D Mr. black pudding

76:33

that the ipadi first of all that the it

76:36

was the people's progressive party that

76:38

voted to support the international

76:41

decade of people of African descent in

76:44

2013.

76:47

It was also the People's Progressive

76:49

Party that voted to extend the decade

76:53

for the people of African descent.

76:56

And we have also extended our support.

76:59

We have also extended our support where

77:02

the 100 million will remain in our

77:04

budget for the people of African descent

77:08

and hundreds of groups have already

77:10

obtained funding, direct funding. He

77:13

didn't have a problem when just a few

77:15

persons from iPad were getting it. 60%

77:20

of it was eaten up in administrative

77:23

costs and they only used to get between

77:26

60 to 100,000. Now they get those groups

77:30

get $2.2 million.

77:36

It was our IT IS OUR PRESIDENT WHO IS

77:40

leading the charge for reparations in

77:42

this country.

77:52

>> Remind me what did former President

77:55

David Granger do for reparations?

78:00

It was President Ali that has led the

78:02

charge and is doing IT GLOBALLY. BUT YOU

78:06

DON'T LIKE IT because he comes from the

78:08

People's Progressive Party.

78:15

>> We have used our bilateral relations to

78:17

extend our cultural programs in our

78:20

cultural and in and creative industries

78:22

grant. Hundreds of young people,

78:26

hundreds of young people have received

78:29

funding from our cultural and creative

78:32

industries grant for which $120 million

78:37

was distributed.

78:42

We completed WE COMPLETED THE

78:45

MODERNIZATION OF the National Trust Act

78:49

and I had the pleasure of speaking with

78:52

the attorney general who has said that

78:55

it will be ready for passage this term.

78:59

We did we did 40 meetings of hard work

79:05

to build internally that build that

79:08

bill. We did that. That bill is now

79:12

ready. That is what will help us with

79:14

the preservation of our culture and our

79:17

heritage.

79:18

>> Honorable minister, you will have to

79:21

wind up.

79:22

>> Mr. Speaker,

79:24

for young people in this country too, I

79:27

want to congratulate our youth

79:29

department. In the last 5 years, we have

79:34

trained from PA P Y A RG that APNU

79:37

killed over 15,000 young people trained

79:41

in that program.

79:43

From our robotics and coding, we train

79:46

close to 8,500

79:49

young people. That is how we are making

79:52

a difference in young people's lives. In

79:55

our vax program, we have engaged over a

79:58

100,000 young people because we are

80:02

focused on communityoriented work. Over

80:05

a 100,000 in the last 5 years. My

80:09

conscience is clear in relation to the

80:13

development that our ministry and this

80:16

government is driving towards the area

80:20

of culture, youth and sport because it

80:23

is multis sectoral.

80:25

It is a great privilege and a great

80:28

pleasure. I can speak for a long time ad

80:32

nauseium about all of the tremendous

80:35

work that we have been doing in the last

80:38

5 years. But you will have another long

80:42

5 years when we remain in this

80:45

government and a long 30 years after

80:48

that because we will continue to work

80:51

with all of the people in this country

80:54

to bring development and to make this

80:57

country one of the most prosperous

80:59

countries in the world and for all gy to

81:02

benefit. Thank you very much Mr.

81:04

Speaker.

81:12

Thank you very much honorable minister

81:14

Ramson.

81:16

And let us now take the honorable

81:19

minister

81:22

Vic

81:25

Ram soon.

81:49

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

81:52

>> Mr. Speaker,

81:58

now sir, the honor is now mine to make

82:01

my contributions on this ongoing budget

82:04

debate for the fiscal year 2026 under

82:08

the theme putting people first.

82:12

Sir, before I substantively argue in

82:16

favor of this budget, I wish to first of

82:19

all thank our most distinguished

82:23

and our most veteran colleague, the

82:26

honorable Dr. Ashni Kumar Singh, senior

82:30

minister with responsibilities of

82:32

finance in the office of the president

82:35

for continuously making us proud with

82:38

your team, your staff members from the

82:41

ministry of finance and of course all

82:44

the other members of the public service.

82:48

Mr. Speaker, this $1.558

82:53

trillion budget, the sole objective of

82:58

these allocations is to improve the

83:01

lives of every Gyian citizen.

83:06

>> Mr. Speaker,

83:09

as one of the geographic members of

83:11

parliament from region number three

83:15

representing the people of region three

83:17

from the people's progressive party

83:18

civic, I along with all my other

83:21

colleagues in this side of the house and

83:24

by extension the gy people would first

83:27

of all like to thank Dr. Bar Jagu our

83:32

general secretary of the people's

83:34

progressive party civic for his dynamic

83:38

for his impactful leadership which has

83:41

significantly sir shaped this very great

83:44

nation of ours for decades

83:48

Mr. Speaker,

83:50

every

83:52

policy eluciated in this budget

83:56

is aimed sir

83:59

for the people because at the center of

84:03

every initiative that the people's

84:05

progressive party civic is involved in

84:08

it lies the people of this country.

84:12

Mr. Speaker,

84:14

as a resident of Region Tree, like

84:18

myself, many almost all if not every GY

84:22

citizen

84:24

knows the difficulties

84:26

that we had encountered with the old

84:28

Dearara River Bridge. Because for hours,

84:31

sometimes because of lack of proper

84:35

infrastructure, we spent hours in

84:38

traffic difficulties we had. And this

84:41

government led by the people's

84:43

progressive party civic constructed

84:47

the new Demorara Harbor Bridge name the

84:51

Barat Jacu Deirara River bridge sir

84:55

because Mr. Speaker for us the people of

85:00

this country's first and more

85:02

importantly sir

85:04

all the bridges

85:07

are tollfree

85:09

because

85:10

Everything that this government does

85:14

lies the people of this country. Sir,

85:19

these budgetary allocations are not just

85:22

numbers that are affixed to programs.

85:26

But these programs, Mr. Speaker, they

85:30

were all done in such a way because we

85:33

have a commitment to the people of this

85:36

country. The people of this country sir

85:40

voted for the people's progressive party

85:42

civic continuously because the people of

85:46

this nation trust the people's

85:48

progressive party civic. Trust is not

85:51

something that is built just like that

85:54

because the numbers we see the

85:56

configuration of this national assembly

85:58

sir speaks to the trust of the people

86:01

and the people of this country sir

86:04

continuously demonstrates that they

86:06

trust the leadership and the people's

86:08

progressive party civic

86:10

>> sir so this

86:13

>> victory that we had this landslide

86:16

victory that we had in the 2025 1st of

86:20

September September general and region

86:22

election sir is no accident.

86:25

It is because in 2020 we committed to

86:29

the people of this country. We delivered

86:31

to the people of this country sir and

86:33

again sir based on that we went back to

86:36

the people and the people delivered for

86:39

us because we have delivered for the

86:42

people.

86:45

Sir, it is important for us to

86:48

understand and the people of this

86:50

country to know the difference between

86:52

the political parties that we have

86:54

representing them in this national

86:56

assembly.

86:57

Let me first start Mr. Speaker a couple

87:00

of days the honorable member

87:04

Vishnu Pande

87:07

made a quote in this national assembly

87:09

sir and he tried to use the Hindu

87:12

religion Mr. speaker to make a political

87:16

point but it was larger than that but

87:19

when he quote Mr. Speaker I want to

87:25

turn to the quote exact quote that he

87:27

made sir and in that quote he said from

87:30

the hands hard he said sir

87:33

Mr. McCoy and he said I will explain to

87:36

you Mr. McCoy, you went to my man there,

87:39

but you did not learn anything. You went

87:43

there and you ate 27 curry, but you yet

87:47

did not learn nothing because your head

87:50

hard.

87:51

Mr. Speaker,

87:54

after I'm finished today, the people of

87:57

this country will know whose head is

88:01

hard.

88:03

>> Because I'll tell you why.

88:05

>> I'll tell you why.

88:07

Mr. Speaker,

88:09

>> Mr. Speaker,

88:12

I have in my hands here

88:15

Tulsias's Ram Chit Manas,

88:19

>> edited and translated into Hindi and

88:24

English by RC Prasad, professor at

88:28

Patner University.

88:31

>> Mr. speaker and this was published by

88:35

one of the best sellers

88:39

>> on Indian civilization

88:42

Motilal Banara's publication one of the

88:45

largest best publication on any of these

88:48

text

88:50

>> and I'll quote what he said sir

88:53

he said sir that is Hindi he's speaking

88:59

but sir he did not speak Hindi because

89:03

this very text is translated in Hindi.

89:08

He spoke there sir Aadhi.

89:11

He doesn't even know the language he

89:14

spoke

89:16

sir

89:18

sir

89:20

and here here it's written here sir

89:26

and he even said it wrong.

89:28

He said

89:32

the text didn't say

89:35

the text says

89:49

They ARE MISREPRESENTING IN THIS

89:52

NATIONAL ASSEMBLY EVEN A HOLY text

89:59

>> honorable member

90:01

>> Mr. Speaker

90:02

>> don't impute

90:03

>> I not every one of us could make a

90:06

mistake

90:06

>> Mr. Speaker with all respect to you sir

90:10

I am stating the facts from the text

90:14

>> and I may saying that he misrepresented

90:17

and misrepresenting sir in legal parlace

90:20

there is are consequences

90:23

>> in misre

90:26

speaker of course

90:27

>> in the house

90:27

>> all right sir I

90:29

>> I'm so guided

90:29

>> I determine

90:31

>> I'm so guided sir

90:32

>> okay

90:34

this is hindi sir

90:37

Next one

90:38

>> that was ai which was wrongly quoted in

90:42

this house

90:44

right

90:46

>> and now I'm giving him the Hindi

90:56

that is Hindi

91:10

And what it means

91:12

the greatest blessing is to do good for

91:15

others. And it didn't even mean what he

91:17

said. He said something different. He

91:20

gave a different meaning. He spoke the

91:23

wrong language. He said and then again

91:25

sir that is Hindi. Mr. Speaker, Mr.

91:30

Speaker, sir, you hold up. I got talk

91:32

with you just now. Mr. Speaker, Mr.

91:35

Speaker,

91:36

Mr. Speaker, sir, I will speak another

91:40

language for him

91:42

and that is Sanskrit.

91:45

He said,

91:49

Mr. Speaker, I'll explain it.

91:51

>> You know what it says? That in the eyes

91:54

of God, we are all one. And that is the

91:57

tradition I follow. So all that you see

92:00

you bring here and you talk about racism

92:02

and this and that what we are told and

92:05

learn in the PPP is that every person is

92:08

the same in the eyes of God and in the

92:11

eyes of all of us. So when you come here

92:14

to speak language

92:16

>> that is coded m sir that they speak

92:19

language that is coded to divide Mr.

92:22

Speaker we are guided on that principle.

92:25

But before I close on this question sir,

92:32

>> I have one thing more to say and permit

92:35

me sir. Permit me sir because he said I

92:40

don't know a word of Hindi. I'm

92:42

responding to him.

92:44

>> The honorable member

92:47

>> and I'm saying here permit me sir to say

92:50

it in Hindi.

93:05

Vishnu

93:23

debate.

93:32

I'll explain it now. I'll explain it

93:34

now. You hold you hold up.

93:38

>> What I will say, sir, is that I'm

93:40

challenging the honorable gentleman to

93:43

come on any television he wants, any

93:46

place he wishes and to have a debate in

93:49

Hindi language with me without not

93:52

looking at a paper and if he so do so,

93:55

he eats salts

93:57

>> from the party he comes from.

94:01

But you know what that represents sir? A

94:04

larger question

94:06

>> that is before all of us here

94:09

>> because in my estimation Mr. Speaker

94:12

every other thing he said who in this

94:16

earth will believe him and if Mr.

94:18

Speaker if for 40 odd years he's

94:21

learning this and he can't get it right

94:24

well went one day. So you determine who

94:27

head really hard.

94:31

>> DETERMINE WHO HEAD REALLY HARD.

94:36

>> So every other question that you raise

94:39

sir on Gau we will answer it. But Mr.

94:43

Speaker but Mr. Speaker, that speaks to

94:47

this political party here.

94:49

>> Yes.

94:49

>> Because sir,

94:52

>> there's a report here

94:54

>> and the chronological sequence of your

94:57

party must be understood.

94:59

>> Read it. Read it.

95:00

>> And this here is a riers report.

95:04

>> The riers report sir, is dated 14th of

95:08

July 2023.

95:11

The contents of this report, sir, the

95:14

standing orders will not permit me to

95:16

say it

95:18

because

95:19

it deals with serious issues of law.

95:25

Again, Mr. Speaker,

95:28

the the Department of Justice

95:32

now come

95:35

the US Department of Justice, Mr.

95:37

speaker after issuing their sanctions,

95:41

>> Mr. Speaker, it is after that OPAC

95:44

sanction that something called win

95:47

developed.

95:49

>> Before that, THERE WAS NO POLITICAL

95:51

party sir

95:53

>> and therefore the goal got a lot of

95:56

scholarship.

95:58

I challenge them over there

96:02

>> and every other member in this team here

96:05

are fully qualified.

96:08

Fully qualified

96:10

>> in whichever field we are. Hold up the

96:11

man.

96:12

>> Hold up. We are fully qualified. I WANT

96:16

YOU TO LIST TO THIS COUNTRY.

96:20

Show to this nation

96:22

>> the qualifications

96:24

of your honorable leader.

96:28

And if you can't present it, u

96:30

freewamiwami

96:34

not the leader of the opposition butwami

96:36

can present at any time, Mr. Speaker.

96:40

>> But you know what? Whatever is his

96:41

qualification, he do not misinform the

96:45

people of this nation.

96:47

He does not misrepresent who he is. And

96:51

that is the key to all of this.

96:55

>> Mr. Speaker,

96:58

I hear

97:00

a lot of things being talked about Gau

97:02

to watch my time.

97:05

>> I heard a lot of things being talked

97:08

about Gauind,

97:12

Mr. Speaker, the sugar workers of this

97:15

nation.

97:18

Many of us don't know the contributions

97:21

that the sugar workers made to this

97:24

nation. And I want to remind some of you

97:26

who tend to forget,

97:29

>> Mr. Speaker, in this budget,

97:34

>> 13.4

97:36

billion dollars is allocated to Gau.

97:52

>> Yeah, Mr. speaker.

97:55

>> So $13.4 billion

97:58

allocated to Gauo

98:01

and here what Gau sugar cane worker they

98:06

are blood suckers sugarce workers gau is

98:09

a dark hole

98:11

>> black hole all sorts of things we say

98:15

Mr. Speaker,

98:18

>> the sugar workers,

98:20

>> the sugar workers for centuries, even

98:24

before this nation was independent,

98:27

>> they retaliated,

98:28

>> they retaliated,

98:30

they fought they struggled

98:34

>> for this nation. They they they they

98:37

fought against the planttocracy.

98:39

>> YES.

98:40

ALL OUR forbearance

98:44

>> toiled for this nation

98:46

>> including David

98:47

>> including everybody for parents

98:51

>> and sir it is respect honor and dignity

98:56

all that we are asking for them to live

98:58

with.

98:58

>> Yes

99:00

>> sir hold on I tell you

99:03

>> Mr. Speaker

99:05

Mr. Speaker

99:08

>> Mr. Speaker,

99:11

when in 1974,

99:15

in 1974, because some of you there like

99:18

to speak on history, the sugar levy was

99:22

imposed on the sugar industry. And at

99:26

that time the PNC le administration

99:30

scooped $475

99:33

million US away from that industry

99:37

to build this nation. We didn't have a

99:40

problem then.

99:42

We didn't have a problem then. And sir,

99:47

I tell you again,

99:49

in 1979,

99:52

our national budget was 627 million,

99:55

$77,000.

99:58

>> And the foreign currency alone,

100:02

earnings of Gau was $226

100:06

million. Sir,

100:08

>> Mr. Speaker, in 1991, the figure

100:12

continues, sir. And here here again and

100:17

listen well because you need to know

100:22

>> all of you know

100:24

>> in 1979 1977 sir our national budget was

100:30

$424 million $917

100:34

the sugar levy

100:37

>> the sugar levby

100:38

>> the sugar levy sir was 77 million listen

100:43

I don't nothing. Listen,

100:45

>> it's $777,500,000,

100:50

sir. $18.2%

100:53

of the budget of that year was funded by

100:56

the sugar levy. The sugar workers, it

100:58

never went back to build the estates.

101:01

Bill Guko, it went to build this nation.

101:03

Sir,

101:04

>> that is correct.

101:05

>> Went to build this nation.

101:07

>> Again, sir, listen. You listen. In 1979

101:13

learn today 1979

101:16

600 this is guys super report and

101:19

parliament reports or fight with them

101:22

>> 627

101:23

million

101:25

700 bill come to scale hot get pressure

101:29

>> 77,115

101:32

sir the sugar levy of that year was

101:35

15.5%

101:37

placed by from that for the national

101:40

budget And it goes on sir in 1989 it was

101:45

14.6% 6% sir

101:48

>> again hold on

101:50

>> again sir in 1991

101:54

4 billion264

101:57

million sir 25.5%

102:01

of the budget was from the sugar

102:03

industry the sugar levy alone and forget

102:06

sir forget sir

102:08

>> forget sir hold we not yet

102:12

>> Mr. Speaker Mr. Speaker

102:15

Mr. Speaker,

102:18

>> today sir,

102:19

>> in 2026,

102:20

>> Mr. Speaker,

102:22

>> the total there's something in finance

102:25

called Mr. Speaker, future value, time

102:27

value for money.

102:31

>> You want to hear the time value for

102:33

money? How much money the sugar industry

102:37

contributed from the sugar alone to this

102:41

country, sir? to this country sir is

102:44

over 310

102:46

billion G dollars sir and today today

102:50

sir today sir from the 1.558

102:56

trillion 13.4 4 billions which is 85 of

103:00

the budget sessha.

103:04

Yhala

103:07

yala I'm on the floor you know I'm on

103:10

the floor right good but yes sir and so

103:13

Mr. Speaker Mr. Speaker Mr. speaker

103:19

that alone

103:21

that alone sir that alone says the story

103:25

and today the allocation of less than a

103:29

percent of the budget sir is going to

103:31

Gau and you hear all these noises but

103:34

when the sugar workers toils to build

103:38

this nation many of you don't know that

103:42

>> sir Mr. Speaker again

103:46

Mr. Speak again. The honorable gentleman

103:48

might remember the first industry

103:52

to bring portable water to this nation

103:55

is Gau. In the 1950s are over 12,000

103:59

homes. It was historic and

104:01

groundbreaking in this nation here where

104:04

almost 12,000 persons homes were given

104:07

water free water. Mr. Speaker, the

104:09

recreational facilities, the pensioners,

104:12

everything, drainage and irrigation,

104:16

recreational facilities, health centers,

104:19

everything, sir. And the largest

104:21

contributor to the national insurance

104:24

scheme is Gau

104:26

and to date even.

104:28

>> I'm not, Mr. Speaker, for a moment for

104:32

not for a moment saying, sir, that

104:34

estates and industry should not be

104:36

viable. But I want to tell you

104:38

something.

104:40

>> Hold up.

104:42

>> You had preferential markets for over 50

104:44

years.

104:45

>> The preferential market existed for over

104:48

50 years. So what are you saying? Sir,

104:52

Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker,

104:56

>> Mr. Speaker,

104:57

>> today sir,

105:00

>> the agriculture industry sir is seeing

105:04

that kind of progress and development

105:07

sir because we are not considering this

105:12

industry to be private business.

105:23

>> Mr. Speaker Rice is another industry sir

105:28

that carry this nation

105:31

>> that carry this nation sir

105:34

>> and you know sir today

105:37

we have the highest

105:39

>> production in the rice industry

105:42

only y'all there talking about people

105:44

the honorable Zulfikar Mustapa led the

105:47

rice sub sector to have the largest

105:51

production in the history of this

105:53

industry 810,299

105:57

metric tons and it don't happen by magic

105:59

y'all can sit there and be Facebook

106:02

warriors and social media politicians

106:05

but progress and prosperity does not

106:08

happen like that sir it happens through

106:11

strategic planning and executing and

106:14

hard work

106:18

>> Mr. Speaker,

106:20

>> your first crop of 2026 alone,

106:25

we have 223,35

106:28

acres right now soon.

106:31

>> It's there, sir.

106:33

>> And Mr. Speaker, our target is a million

106:36

metric ton by 20 2030. Sir,

106:41

>> our export

106:43

>> our export sir is 468,730

106:48

metric tons of rice. Our foreign

106:50

exchange earning alone for 2025 is 237

106:55

million US and all of you speak about

106:58

rice farmers.

107:00

We have worked with the farmers when you

107:03

here consider rice to be private

107:05

business.

107:07

private business. You went to the rice

107:10

farmers. You told them that you will do

107:13

so. You will do so. And you know what

107:15

you did?

107:17

>> But you know what, sir?

107:19

>> You know what?

107:21

>> You know what, sir?

107:23

>> When people are in the ICU, you pray for

107:26

them.

107:28

You pray that they be well because that

107:30

is part of what all of us do. Yes. Yes.

107:32

>> And so, sir, I will not waste any of my

107:36

time longer.

107:38

>> Thank you.

107:38

>> To speak on that which is in the ICU

107:42

because you know what, sir?

107:44

>> The people No, no, we by 2030 by 2030

107:50

the sugar workers the sugar workers will

107:53

stay on their jobs right there inu.

107:56

And sir, Mr. Speaker,

108:00

Mr. Mr. Speaker,

108:02

the rice farmers

108:05

when people campaign they know

108:06

themselves

108:09

they'd made a lot of promises and to the

108:11

people and when it's time they turned

108:14

their backs and they said it's private

108:16

business but sir in this country here

108:21

this is a democratic country and the

108:23

fact that is it is democratic you can

108:26

sit there as 16 members honorable

108:28

members

108:30

And your numbers there, your numerical

108:32

strength on that side of the house is

108:35

demonstrative that democracy is alive

108:38

and the people will continue. Don't

108:40

think the people out there, they don't

108:42

know what is going on. Sir,

108:45

you can make all the false allegations

108:47

you want, but the people on the ground,

108:51

they know for years who stand by them,

108:54

who continue to stand by them, and who

108:57

is there for them. an election.

108:59

>> The people know that, sir,

109:02

>> you can do what you want, but the

109:04

people, the gy people are smarter. And

109:06

that is why, Mr. Speaker, we are

109:09

continuously, we are continuously

109:13

working for the people because we want

109:15

to make the people smarter. We want to

109:18

make sure that the people understand

109:20

everybody. and the honorable minister

109:23

and the this government is investing

109:25

tremendously in the education sector.

109:29

>> That is why we are returning the cash

109:31

grant. That is why we are placing it now

109:33

to 85 and it will incrementally go based

109:36

on our manifesto. We are guided by that

109:39

and not for a moment will we ever move

109:42

from that.

109:43

And sir,

109:45

in the rice sector alone for 2025,

109:49

we have given in cash money,

109:53

fertilizers,

109:55

subsidies,

109:56

>> incentives

109:58

>> of the tune of 5 bill3180

110:01

million. Mr. Speaker, that is to put

110:04

money in the people's pocket and the

110:05

rice farmers know that tomorrow. Join me

110:10

in region three because we have

110:13

something that is called the crop

110:15

insurance

110:18

>> free

110:21

>> putting monies putting the people FIRST

110:25

>> BECAUSE THAT crop insurance

110:28

>> the crop insurance Mr. Speaker

110:31

>> is that which you know in 2021

110:36

when there was this flooding

110:39

$2 billion were given to the rice

110:41

farmers as subsidies.

110:45

And this government understands the risk

110:48

that our farmers take when they go to

110:50

the fields

110:52

to plant crops to feed this nation

110:57

and your government,

111:01

Mr. Speaker, the government of Guyana

111:03

led by the People's Progressive Party

111:05

Civic collaborated GRDB, the Costa Rica

111:09

company,

111:10

and the Morris Phillips International

111:12

Company. sir

111:14

>> joined together

111:17

>> joined together and created this

111:21

insurance product

111:23

to remove the level of uncertaintity

111:26

because of inclement weather condition

111:31

sir and that there in case of any losses

111:36

will compensate the farmers for whatever

111:39

losses they will face

111:41

sir This is not gaff.

111:44

>> Tomorrow

111:46

Dr. Barker you join me

111:49

and you will see for real

111:52

>> as a member of region three not tomorrow

111:55

sorry Saturday

111:58

>> Saturday

112:00

>> and you will see the real things that

112:03

are happening

112:05

how it changes and transforms the lives

112:08

of our ordinary people. This is no quack

112:11

show.

112:12

This is real people. This is not

112:15

cardboard people. This is real human

112:17

beings. We are transformed.

112:20

>> We'll have 5 minutes more to conclude.

112:22

>> Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

112:25

>> Mr. Speaker

112:27

again in the rice sector

112:31

in the rice sector sir

112:34

we have

112:39

>> we again sir

112:42

>> have done

112:46

say

112:48

>> yes sir

112:51

so the nano fertilizer

112:54

Again, it's a groundbreaking experience

112:57

because in rice cultivation,

113:00

it is a reduced input cost, increased

113:03

yields and soil health that is

113:05

important.

113:08

>> Right. And Mr. Speaker, Terry,

113:12

>> the energy and resource institute of

113:14

India partnered sir with

113:18

>> GRDB

113:20

at a rice resort station and Mr.

113:23

Speaker, after that our aronomists have

113:26

reported that with a nano ura

113:30

fertilizer,

113:32

we have increased yields and strong

113:35

environmental effects for the usage of

113:38

this liquid

113:40

nano ura fertilizer.

113:42

>> So instead of sir spending now $7,000 on

113:47

a bag of fertilizer for acre of land, we

113:49

can now achieve that with $2,500.

113:53

That Mr. Speaker speaks to innovation

113:56

speaks to the needs of our people and

113:58

that is what sir this People's

114:00

Progressive Party is about because this

114:02

will reduce

114:04

cost

114:06

and reduction in cost means more money

114:09

in the farmer's pocket.

114:11

Increased yields means more money is in

114:14

the farmer's pocket. But Mr. Speaker, we

114:17

are also not denying that there are

114:20

issues in the sector. We do not shy away

114:23

from that. We accept it because as you

114:27

know in this 2025 last year, we exported

114:32

42,000 more than 2024 and earned 17

114:37

million less. It means sir in the

114:40

international market the price is down

114:43

because of an excessive supply.

114:46

And so we have sir a responsibility to

114:49

continuously work with the farmer. And

114:52

sir you will notice

114:55

that

114:56

we will work we continuously work with

114:59

the farmers to ensure that the cost of

115:01

production is done. There's more market

115:03

in Mexico and Europe so that our farmers

115:06

can be more profitable.

115:08

Mr. Speaker, one last point I would like

115:10

to make in the other crop sectors.

115:15

Nari Terry again in collaboration

115:19

with Nari

115:21

couple months ago I think it's in

115:23

October

115:25

we commissioned a brand new tissue

115:27

culture lab

115:30

and Mr. speaker where plants we were we

115:34

were able to to have 13,000 plantlets

115:38

being done now 1 million plantlets can

115:42

go Mr. Speaker to the nursery and then

115:46

to the farmers

115:48

disease-free

115:50

and which will also help to increase the

115:53

output of the farmers.

115:56

We have constructed 757

115:59

shade houses across this country from

116:03

2021 to 2025.

116:06

And make no bones about it, we want to

116:08

make this sector sustainable. We want to

116:11

make this sector resilient, climate

116:14

resilient, and more importantly reach to

116:17

ensure that our nation is a food secure

116:20

nation. There are more. There's so many

116:21

things we can talk, but Mr. Speaker, I

116:24

want to thank the people of this country

116:27

for once again electing Dr. Muhammad

116:30

Ernali

116:32

as our president of this nation. And sir

116:37

and sir,

116:39

we have served this nation. You want to

116:41

hear indie?

116:43

>> Sir, am I permitted? Mr. Speaker, we in

116:46

the People's Progressive Party Civic has

116:49

served this nation for almost 76 years

116:52

and we never get migraine headache.

116:55

>> Every day we go out. But here what

116:58

technology is also where is Dr. Fran.

117:02

>> Mr. Speaker,

117:04

for all those people who have migraine

117:06

headache

117:08

>> setal migraine is available over the

117:11

counter. Thank you very much everybody.

117:18

Thank you very much, honorable

117:21

minister.

117:22

>> And now for the honorable member, Mr.

117:25

Dwarte

117:27

Hsburgger.

117:47

Mr. Speaker,

117:51

>> honorable members

117:53

from both sides of the house.

117:56

>> Good afternoon.

117:58

It's indeed a pleasure

118:01

to be here in this honorable house as a

118:04

representative of the people of this

118:06

country.

118:11

>> I can't help it but to certain things.

118:15

>> I'm trying not to be disrespectful to my

118:18

elders and the disabled, but for you, my

118:21

sir, I will humbly put aside my

118:24

principles.

118:26

>> Anyhow, Mr. Speaker,

118:29

um this afternoon I would like to

118:32

congratulate all the members who were

118:34

elected to be in this August House,

118:37

especially to those who are new to this

118:40

house um including myself and those new

118:45

ministerial um members.

118:49

Um

118:51

further, Mr. Speaker, I would like to

118:54

extend an heartfelt gratitude to the 109

118:59

persons,

119:01

109,000

119:03

individuals

119:05

who who decided that they wanted

119:08

something new

119:10

and put their trust behind this

119:13

movement, the we invest in nationhood

119:17

movement. And mind you, Mr. Speaker, you

119:20

would hear me saying movement. This is a

119:23

movement because we have a purpose, not

119:26

a party that usually makes noise.

119:30

>> Hot air.

119:32

>> And I understand the reason for the on

119:34

and off of the AC is the hot air that

119:37

rises at a certain end.

119:42

>> Mr. Speaker,

119:45

>> Mr. Speaker,

119:47

allow me to make

119:49

my contribution. But before I go, I for

119:53

the past few days, we heard about this

119:56

whopping majority and the endorsement by

120:00

the people of Ghana. That is good.

120:02

Kudos.

120:04

You have a whopping majority, a 36 seat

120:07

majority, and you should be sitting and

120:11

doing the gods. But however,

120:15

you every day

120:19

This 16 bothers you.

120:24

Forgive you my colleagues on this side.

120:26

We we are on the same side. But forgive

120:28

me.

120:30

Every day the 16 is a turn in your side.

120:36

It tells me about your insecurity.

120:41

WHAT IT ALSO TELLS ME, MR. MR. SPEAKER,

120:45

what it also tells me is that IF IN 3

120:49

MONTHS, MR. SPEAKER, 3 MONTHS,

120:52

>> WE gnered

120:55

16 seats,

120:58

>> it sh

121:03

>> what will happen in 5 YEARS? AND THAT IS

121:06

WHAT GIVES THEM sleepless nights and

121:09

they would want to talk. It's politics.

121:12

This is not politics, Mr. Speaker.

121:15

>> Insecurity.

121:17

>> That's insecurity there.

121:20

>> A face of double standard.

121:24

>> Mr. Speaker,

121:27

Mr. Speaker, I stand here to

121:31

>> make my contributions to this debate.

121:34

My first presentation is to be a part of

121:37

this budget debate.

121:43

Mr. Speaker,

121:45

>> this budget is presented under the theme

121:48

>> putting people first.

121:52

>> Everybody is saying this thing, but like

121:54

it's borrowed. So, I wouldn't repeat

121:56

that, right? I wouldn't repeat that

121:59

because it's it's already in the record,

122:03

>> right?

122:05

>> And more so outside of it being

122:07

borrowed, Mr. Speaker,

122:10

it falls short of relieving the many

122:15

burdens faced by the ordinary GY,

122:18

although it being a whopping 1.558

122:22

trillion. Mr. Speaker, my contribution

122:27

today is not

122:29

is not to test

122:32

that amount with rhetoric. It's not to

122:35

test it with rhetoric. is to test it

122:38

with the supreme law of this land, the

122:41

constitution. Mr. Speaker, the budget

122:44

documents and the realities of the

122:47

people on the ground that faith daily.

122:50

Mr. Speaker, I intend to identify

122:54

highlight the deficiencies in the

122:56

budget, particularly, Mr. Speaker, as it

123:00

relates to local government and regional

123:02

development.

123:04

This is not an opposition for the sake

123:07

of opposing.

123:09

It is a necessary exercise

123:12

in constitutional

123:15

responsibility and accountability

123:18

where the constitution establishes

123:21

government as a cornerstone for

123:24

democratic governance. It is the duty of

123:28

this house to ensure that our budgets

123:31

strengthen and do not quit quiet quietly

123:34

undermine that constitutional intent.

123:39

Mr. Speaker, no matter how much we

123:42

spend,

123:44

no matter how large the figures may

123:46

appear, if the constitution is not

123:50

honored in practice,

123:53

local government will remain weakened,

123:57

marginalized, and disrespected.

124:01

>> Meaningful development, Mr. Speaker,

124:04

does not flow from expenditure alone.

124:07

It flows from system of respect for the

124:10

law.

124:12

Empower elected representatives and

124:15

involve people not as subject to

124:17

administration

124:19

but as partners of governance. Mr.

124:23

Speaker, let me be unequivocal.

124:26

Money cannot cure constitutional

124:29

disrespect. The time has come. Money

124:32

cannot cure constitutional disrespect.

124:36

>> Mr. Mr. Speaker,

124:40

>> Mr. Speaker, local government in Guyana

124:44

is not an extension of Shift Changer

124:46

Paul drive or the corridors of Rob

124:50

Street, right? It's a constitutional

124:54

pillar in our democracy.

124:58

>> Article 12, if you listen, you will get

125:01

the point. Article 12 of our

125:03

constitution is abundantly clear, Mr.

125:05

speaker and I want to quote verbatim

125:10

so that my colleagues on the other side

125:13

do not go misinformed or in any form

125:18

>> right outside of that

125:21

>> local government by freely elected

125:24

representatives of the people

125:27

is an integral part of the democratic

125:31

organization of the state.

125:35

>> They had to play an important part in

125:38

the development of the state.

125:42

>> Right.

125:46

>> Mr. Speaker,

125:49

>> I notice my friend

125:51

>> I notice my friend, the honorable James

125:54

Bond is not interfering in this. He's

125:56

not contributing to this

125:58

>> because we were once at fish shop and

126:00

they blamed us to colluding. But I

126:02

understand that he repented so I could

126:05

understand why he's not saying anything

126:08

right

126:10

>> without article 12. Mr. Speaker, with

126:13

article 12, Mr. Speaker, it is further

126:17

further. It goes further. When we look

126:20

at chapter 7 articles 7:1

126:24

to 78B

126:28

it gives us the establishment of these

126:30

LDOS's

126:32

>> right

126:34

>> as institution of God vested with the

126:37

authority guess where Mr. Speaker

126:40

>> through the ballot box

126:42

>> through the ballot box

126:45

>> they are vested with that authority Mr.

126:47

Speaker

126:49

not to be overridden by the by

126:52

administrative convenience

126:55

>> and by extension the executive.

126:58

>> They are constitutionally

127:01

invested

127:03

in implementing policy programs that

127:07

determine

127:09

by the duly elected

127:12

authority with administrative authority

127:15

across all areas with the exception of

127:17

two Mr. speaker with the exception of

127:20

two and that is foreign relations and

127:23

defense that it stays with the

127:27

executive. The framers of our

127:29

constitution understood that that when

127:31

we're talking about development if you

127:34

listen you're going everything's fly

127:36

over your head when you listen you learn

127:40

Mr. figure out where we talking about

127:42

development. Our framers intended for

127:44

the people to be a part of the process

127:48

because they understood that with a rich

127:50

nation like this, it cannot be DONE FROM

127:53

THE CENTER, THE PEOPLE HAVE to be

127:56

involved.

127:58

But they also saw that

128:02

>> on a macro scale, defense and foreign

128:05

relation has to be dealt with from a

128:07

macro scale.

128:08

>> Right.

128:12

Thank you. I know I look I know I look

128:14

young. I know I look young. Thank you

128:15

very much. Thank Mr. Speaker,

128:19

I want to compound this point by saying

128:23

on the se on 1st of September

128:26

on the 1st of September, Mr. Speaker,

128:29

>> I want to

128:32

I want my honorable members to

128:34

understand that there wasn't only one

128:36

elections.

128:38

There was two there was 11 elections,

128:41

Mr. Speaker. One of those elections the

128:44

our electors cast two ballots.

128:48

One to elect the honorable members of

128:50

this house and also to elect the party

128:55

that will be at the governance the

128:58

executive arm of government.

129:02

>> They that go over the head.

129:04

>> Everything is go over the head. could

129:05

have lost it with the truly.

129:07

>> They lost it. Right. Right.

129:24

>> Yes, Mr. Speaker.

129:27

>> Mr. Speaker, that was one part of the

129:29

election. The other 10 elections were

129:33

for the regional democratic councils.

129:35

Mr. This wasn't action

129:38

a symbolic act.

129:41

>> It wasn't a symbolic act, Mr. Speaker.

129:45

It was a constitutional act conferring,

129:48

authority, legitimacy, and

129:51

responsibility both at the national and

129:54

regional levels. Mr. Speaker,

129:58

Mr. Mr. Speaker, for the past 3 days,

130:00

all you're hearing from that side of the

130:02

house is about democracy, democracy,

130:03

democracy.

130:05

>> Yet, Mr. Speaker,

130:07

>> ONE CANNOT PROFESS COMMITMENT TO

130:09

democracy while degrading the very

130:12

mandate that democracy produces.

130:18

>> IT IS NOW 5 MONTHS, MR. SPEAKER, 5

130:22

months since those elections were held.

130:25

And yet,

130:27

And yet, Mr. Speaker, Upper Demorara

130:29

Boris Region 10

130:32

>> Regional Democratic Council HAS YET

130:36

CONVENED ITS statutory meeting

130:40

>> has not reconvene its statutory meeting

130:44

>> to conclude

130:45

its elections.

130:48

>> You put honorable to that name Mr. born.

130:58

>> Yeah, Mr. Speaker.

131:02

Mr. Speaker,

131:08

>> they haven't reconveneed that statutory

131:11

meeting to conclude the election for its

131:15

chairperson and vice chairperson. Mr.

131:18

speaker

131:19

>> and a budget is before this honorable

131:22

house, Mr. Speaker, prepared.

131:26

>> Expenditure has been outlined.

131:29

>> The programs are moving forward. YET THE

131:32

DULY ELECTED COUNCIL, the body

131:35

constitutionally mandated to guide,

131:37

scrutinize, and implement regional

131:40

development has been excluded from the

131:43

process.

131:47

>> Mr. Speaker, this is not a technical

131:49

delay. It is not an administrative

131:52

oversight. It is a constitutional

131:55

failure.

131:56

>> Utter failure.

132:00

When we elected council to prevent

132:03

prevent it from organizing

132:06

itself as required by law,

132:10

>> executive convenience,

132:15

executive convenience, Mr. Speaker, is

132:18

placed above democratic obligations, Mr.

132:21

Speaker, and when that occurs, no amount

132:25

of expenditure, Mr. Speaker, no amount

132:27

of money can compensate for the erosion

132:31

of legitimacy.

132:34

>> This is why, Mr. Speaker, that this

132:36

budget must be judged not only by how

132:38

much it allocates, but by how it

132:41

respects the authority of those elected

132:44

to govern.

132:49

>> Mr. Speaker,

132:50

>> when we examine this budget, a budget

132:53

that claims to put the people first,

132:56

what we see is not the strengthening of

132:59

local democracy, but a route either

133:01

deliberate or through ignorance that

133:04

would lead to its steady erosion.

133:07

Mr. Speaker, instead of empowering

133:10

elected councils, the approach reflected

133:13

here continues to favor centralized

133:16

administration.

133:18

The dictorial approach is familiar. New

133:21

mechanisms are introduced.

133:24

Advis additional advisory layers are

133:27

inserted. Administrative interventions

133:30

are expanded. And all too often these

133:34

structures operate

133:37

alongside,

133:39

above, or around

133:42

those elected councils

133:46

>> by passing them. Mr. MR. SPEAKER, IN

133:48

PRACTICE WHILE LEAVING them

133:52

accountable in name

133:54

that's a travesty, Mr. Speaker,

133:58

constitutional provisions are being

134:00

honored in breach and you calling it

134:04

democracy.

134:07

Mr. Speaker, these measures are

134:10

presented to us as tools of efficiency.

134:13

But actually, Mr. Speaker,

134:15

>> they are tools

134:17

They are tools

134:19

of central control. They are merely

134:22

tools of central control where opposing

134:25

views are

134:28

>> not supported or tolerated. Mr. Speaker,

134:31

sir, let me say this plainly.

134:35

Governance is not administration

134:38

and administration will never be

134:40

governance.

134:42

>> Administration

134:45

>> administration

134:46

implements,

134:48

governance decides

134:51

in the it is the same way that a PS does

134:55

not determine policies.

134:59

Similarly,

135:01

a REO, a town or is it only the

135:03

overseers or in this case the ARO region

135:07

10?

135:08

>> Huh?

135:10

>> Mr. Speaker, when ministries engage

135:13

directly and primarily with appointed

135:16

officials rather than elected

135:18

representatives,

135:19

when councils are reduced to delivery

135:22

agents for decision made elsewhere, when

135:26

authority flow upwards while

135:28

responsibility flow downwards, the

135:30

constitution is not honored. It is being

135:33

dishonored.

135:35

>> Mr. Mr. Speaker, if anyone doubts that

135:38

this is a constitutional issue and not a

135:41

financial one, they need to look what is

135:44

currently happening in region 10.

135:50

Mr. Speaker,

135:55

Mr. Speaker,

135:59

Mr. Speaker, local democratic organs

136:02

were created to give citizens ownership

136:04

of their communities,

136:07

ownership to determine

136:09

their priorities, ownership to determine

136:12

their developmental needs, OWNERSHIP TO

136:15

DETERMINE THEIR OUTCOMES. When that

136:18

authority is diluted or ignored,

136:21

citizens participation weakens,

136:24

accountability becomes blur, public

136:27

trust erodess. Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker,

136:31

democracy does not mean managing from

136:34

the center.

136:35

>> It must be practiced at the community

136:37

level. This is what the constitution

136:40

prescribed.

136:42

This is not what I am saying. This is

136:44

what the constitution prescribes.

136:47

>> Mr. Speaker,

136:49

no amount of administrative

136:51

restructuring can substitute for elected

136:54

authority. None.

136:57

No volume of spending can compensate for

137:00

weakening local governance. None.

137:04

And no budget can credibly claim to put

137:07

people force while systemically

137:10

sidelining the institution designed to

137:13

represent them.

137:16

Mr. Speaker, allow me to emphasize that

137:20

respect for the constitution must

137:22

translate into respect for the people.

137:26

The Constitution is not an abstract

137:28

document to be cited when convenient or

137:31

believed to only be exercised every 5

137:34

years.

137:36

It is a living instrument designed to

137:38

protect participation,

137:41

dignity and voice. Citizens engagement

137:44

in local government is not meant to be

137:46

managed from afar

137:49

but to be heard at close range,

137:53

not to be observed. not to observe

137:55

governance as passive spectators but to

137:59

actively influence the decision that

138:01

shape their communities their

138:03

livelihoods and their daily lives. That

138:06

is what the constitution intended to be.

138:10

Mr. Speaker, when constitutional

138:12

principles are honor informed but ignore

138:15

in practice,

138:17

something dangerous occurs. Citizens

138:20

suffering leads to badly managed

138:22

communities, drain, sanitation and

138:26

simple thing as a playground.

138:29

>> Mr. Mr. Speaker, when decision affecting

138:32

our major markets such as board and

138:35

stab,

138:37

decision affecting our sanitation

138:40

and waste management, decision affecting

138:43

our surrounding community

138:44

infrastructure,

138:46

decision affecting our social order are

138:50

taken far removed from the communities

138:53

they they impact. The consequences are

138:56

immediate and damaging. Local realities

139:00

are misunderstood,

139:02

community priorities are misaligned and

139:05

solutions are imposed rather than

139:08

develop through consultation.

139:12

In such circumstances, Mr. Speaker,

139:15

citizens are reduced from partners in

139:19

governance to spectators of the

139:22

administration process.

139:24

If you listen, you're going to

139:26

understand. expected to comply with

139:28

decision. They had no role in shaping.

139:31

They had no role in shaping but they

139:33

must comply and to absorb all the

139:36

consequences policies that do not affect

139:39

their lived experiences.

139:42

>> Mr. Speaker, this is a quiet erosion of

139:45

democracy. Some may say this is violent.

139:49

Sir, it is not done with declarations

139:52

but with displacement.

139:54

>> Not through confrontation

139:56

but through control.

139:58

>> Not by removing elections but by

140:01

emptying it of influence. And if you

140:03

want to ask me, Mr. Speaker, what it

140:05

means by emptying of influence. Take a

140:07

look at the voter turnout at local

140:09

government elections. They are abysmal.

140:12

The last one was 38%.

140:14

>> 38%.

140:16

That tells you the people have no trust

140:18

in the system because no matter who they

140:20

elect to represent them, central

140:23

government always manage.

140:29

>> Mr. Speaker,

140:32

>> Mr. Speaker,

140:37

>> democracy cannot be supervised into

140:39

existence.

140:45

Democracy cannot be supervised into

140:48

existence. Mr. Speaker,

140:52

>> it must be trusted.

140:56

>> It must be practiced

140:58

>> and it must be respected beginning with

141:00

respect for the constitution and ending

141:03

with a respect for the people.

141:09

They they're the only bright ones here.

141:12

colleagues,

141:14

right? They're the only bright ones.

141:16

They're the They born with experience,

141:18

right? Unfortunately for us, we have to

141:21

learn.

141:24

We have to learn. They They are born

141:26

with it. They are blessed.

141:37

>> Yeah.

141:39

>> Because I'm listening. All right.

141:42

>> When you're finished, you're going to

141:43

shake my hand. Mr. Bourne,

141:47

>> Mr. Speaker, allow me now to address

141:52

a region that

141:55

is important not only to me, but to our

142:00

party, our movement at large.

142:05

I would like to turn to upper takatu

142:08

upper Esquibbo region 90

142:11

the largest administrative region in

142:15

this country Mr. Speaker

142:16

>> tell them

142:17

>> known widely as Rupenoni

142:19

a region of vast distance rich in

142:22

indigenous heritage immense agriculture

142:25

potential Mr. speaker and significant

142:28

opportunity for tourism and crossber

142:31

trade.

142:33

Rupeni, Mr. Speaker, is home to more

142:36

than 55 villages

142:40

that covers approximately 57,700

142:43

square kilometers.

142:46

This reality alone, Mr. speaker speaks

142:49

not only to the geographical scale of

142:51

the region but the depth of

142:54

responsibility

142:55

borne by the state in delivering

142:58

services, infrastructure and governance

143:01

across that vast distance.

143:05

Mr. Speaker, this is not a sparsely

143:08

inhabited space that can be managed by

143:11

approximation

143:13

and occasional intervention.

143:15

Rather, it is living

143:19

an organized region of communities with

143:22

distinct needs,

143:24

>> priorities

143:25

and expectations,

143:30

>> development in the Rupenoni likewise in

143:32

all other regions. Mr. speaker cannot be

143:36

episodic

143:38

or occasional intervention often

143:41

channeled through the lens of a camera

143:43

for the purpose of social media

143:44

platform. Mr. Speaker, it must be

143:47

deliberate, it must be sustained, and

143:50

most importantly, it must be respectful

143:53

of the people that live there.

143:59

>> Mr. Speaker, education

144:02

in the region like Rupen is not merely a

144:05

social service.

144:08

It is primarily an instrument of

144:10

opportunity,

144:11

mobility, and long-term development.

144:15

In a vast interland region where

144:17

distance, geography, limited access

144:21

already place young people at a

144:23

disadvantage,

144:25

education becomes a single most

144:27

important equalizer between the

144:30

coastland and the interior. Mr. Speaker,

144:34

for region 9, Mr. Speaker, education is

144:36

not an optional infrastructure.

144:39

It is an essential national investment.

144:44

Rupenoni, Mr. Speaker, serves, as I

144:47

said, more than 55 villages.

144:50

Each of those communities, Mr. Speaker,

144:52

depends on a small number of secondary

144:54

institutions to educate their children.

144:58

When those institution, Mr. Speaker, are

145:00

overburdened or delayed, the impact is

145:03

felt across the entire region, Mr.

145:06

Speaker, not in theory, but in

145:09

classrooms, dormitories, and the

145:11

learning outcomes. Mr. Mr. Speaker, take

145:15

for example the St. Ignatius Secondary

145:17

School which continues

145:20

to experience severe overcrowding

145:23

absorbing students from Let Tabaching

145:26

and bordering communities.

145:29

This school has effectively become a

145:32

regional pressure point accommodating

145:35

far more student than it was originally

145:40

designed to. Mr. Speaker, there was a

145:44

glimmer of hope with the emergence of

145:46

the Tabachinga Secondary School

145:49

that was intended to relieve some of the

145:52

pressure of the St. Ignatius Secondary

145:54

School.

145:56

>> Right. The intention was some, Mr.

145:59

Speaker. The exec the execution,

146:02

however,

146:04

has fallen short tremendously.

146:07

The fact is, Mr. figure.

146:10

There was at the time little or no

146:13

visibility at the construction site.

146:16

Little or no visibility at the

146:18

construction site. But I was informed

146:22

only Monday

146:24

>> that work has returned.

146:29

Work has restarted. Mr. Speaker, I am in

146:32

no way, Mr. Speaker, imputing that the

146:34

work the the construction was abandoned.

146:37

I'm just saying that the ad hoc manner

146:40

the ad hoc manner and not clearly taking

146:44

into consideration what is happening on

146:46

the ground. Now that project is behind

146:49

timeline and most definitely I I know

146:52

why it is behind timeline and why it's

146:54

ad hoc. It's because of the famous

146:57

triplef policy.

147:06

Honorable member, your five minutes will

147:09

start now.

147:10

>> Yes, Mr. Speaker, allow me, Mr. Speaker,

147:13

to address the public infrastructure

147:17

>> in the region 9.

147:21

Mr. Speaker,

147:24

road infrastructure, Mr. Speaker, is not

147:27

about mobility. It is about access to

147:31

services, economic survival, and public

147:34

safety.

147:37

Mr. Speaker, roads connect villages to

147:40

school, schools to schools to farms,

147:44

farms to markets, patients to health

147:47

care, and communities to opportunity.

147:50

When road fails, Mr. Speaker, isolation

147:53

follow

147:54

>> and that is a real human cost.

147:57

Mr.

147:59

road infrastructure in Rupeni therefore

148:01

required more than speed and surface. It

148:04

requires planning that respects

148:07

geography, construction that respects

148:10

engineering standards

148:12

and oversight that respect public funds.

148:15

Mr. Mr. Speak, I started this by saying

148:17

local government is the key pillar to

148:21

the development of our country. If we

148:23

are going to develop at the rate that we

148:24

are going and if the people are not

148:27

involved, we will not get value for the

148:29

money.

148:31

>> Mr. Give you an example Mr. Speaker in

148:34

Bon

148:35

a culvert was built.

148:38

>> Culvert supposed to build where the

148:40

water accumulates.

148:42

The people tell them that is where the

148:45

culvert is to build at the bottom of the

148:47

slope. But the engineers, our brilliant

148:50

engineers, Mr. Speaker, built it on a

148:53

slope.

148:54

>> Built it on a slope.

148:56

>> They're listening to the people on the

148:58

ground. I guess because we are

149:00

indigenous and they are engineers,

149:02

>> but in this case, they are engine far.

149:07

>> Mr. Speaker, due to time

149:12

because

149:14

>> because they are on that side of the

149:16

house, everything just flies over their

149:17

heads.

149:18

>> Mr. Speaker,

149:20

>> since 2021,

149:22

national spending has increased by

149:24

approximately 300%.

149:28

This represent one of the most dramatic

149:30

expansion of public expenditure in our

149:33

history. With an increase of that

149:35

magnitude, citizens are entitled to

149:38

reasonably and legitimately, Mr.

149:40

Speaker, EXPECT CORRESPONDING

149:43

IMPROVEMENT IN THEIR quality of life.

149:46

>> That expectation is not excessive, Mr.

149:48

Speaker. It's logical.

149:52

>> Local democratic organs, Mr. Speaker,

149:55

remain financially constrained and

149:57

operationally dependent, Mr. Speaker.

150:00

Regions such as region 9 continue to

150:02

wait for delivery that matches promise.

150:05

Communities that continue to experience

150:08

widening gap between expenditure and

150:10

outcome, between what is announced and

150:13

what is actually felt. Mr. Speaker,

150:18

Mr. Speaker, no amount of increased

150:20

spending can compensate for weakened

150:23

democratic institutions. None. No level

150:26

of capital investment can replace trust,

150:29

legitimacy, and respect

150:32

for the authority conformed by the

150:34

ballot boxes.

150:38

>> A budget, Mr. Speaker, that expands by

150:42

300% yet coincides with growing strain

150:47

on local Democratic leadership cannot

150:50

credibly claim to be putting people

150:53

first. Budget reveals priorities and

150:57

priorities reveal intent. Numbers don't

151:01

lie. Consequences speak even louder.

151:11

>> Mr. Speaker,

151:12

>> a budget that grows at that pace yet

151:16

leaves Democratic organs constrained,

151:19

services uneven, an entire region still

151:23

waiting for delivery reflects a failure

151:27

of respect. A failure of respect for the

151:31

constitution,

151:32

failure of respect for the people and a

151:35

fail respect for the services the state

151:38

is duty bound to provide. Mr. Speaker,

151:42

development is not measured by how much

151:44

we spend. It is measured by how well our

151:47

people live. And in this case, only a

151:49

few are living well.

151:52

The stats are the stats show that, Mr.

151:54

Speaker, Mr. Speaker, until our

151:58

increased expenditure produces stronger

152:01

local government, dignified and reliable

152:04

services,

152:06

>> real felt outcomes for all regions,

152:10

>> the promise of putting people first

152:13

remains what it is,

152:16

>> merely a slogan.

152:21

>> Mr. Speaker, the people of Guyana did

152:23

not ask for expansion alone.

152:27

>> They asked for results.

152:30

>> They asked for respect

152:33

>> and they deserve nothing less.

152:36

>> Money cannot cure. Mr. Speaker,

152:40

>> money cannot cure constitutional

152:44

disrespect.

152:46

>> Money cannot cure constitutional

152:47

disrespect. I thank you, Mr. speaker for

152:50

this opportunity.

152:55

>> Thank you very much, honorable member,

152:57

Mr. Dwarte Hsburgger. And now for the

153:01

honorable minister of Local Government

153:04

and Regional Development.

153:10

>> Thank you.

153:16

>> Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

153:20

Good afternoon to you and to everyone

153:23

else here. Mr. Speaker, I want to begin

153:24

by congratulating the honorable Dr.

153:28

Tashnney Singh,

153:32

the senior minister in the office of the

153:35

president with responsibility for

153:36

finance who I have to say is coveted

153:40

around the world and who when he we went

153:43

into opposition whose services were

153:45

sought. Nobody on the other side could

153:48

claim that kind of uh credit. Nobody on

153:51

the other side. I want to thank our

153:54

female director of budget, Miss Sonia

153:57

Rup North. Many countries crave a female

154:00

director of budget. And I want to

154:02

specially mention Mr. Bernard Lord, who

154:05

whom I know I bothered for too many

154:07

minutes on days that he should not have

154:09

been working and at hours he should not

154:11

have been answering. But I wanted to get

154:13

it right for the Ministry of Local

154:15

Government and every other staff in

154:17

every other ministry, particularly in

154:20

the Ministry of Local Government who put

154:23

this budget together so that we could

154:24

take Guyana forward by putting people

154:27

first. Mr. Speaker,

154:30

I listened to the honorable member just

154:32

now

154:34

>> and it was it was an amazing lecture in

154:38

democracy and I met this honorable

154:41

member before.

154:44

Um I met him on the 4th of of March 2020

154:49

and I have a soft spot. I'm an army

154:51

wife. It's soft spot for some army

154:53

people. And I actually believed his plea

154:55

when he said we were making a mountain

154:58

out of a mole hill. I didn't realize

155:01

that we were in the midst of an election

155:03

rig

155:04

>> that the honorable member was very

155:05

familiar with. And I thought he would be

155:08

shadowing not local government. He has

155:11

great expertise in computers, wiping

155:14

them and flash drives and assisting

155:17

people to do that. and the honorable

155:19

member.

155:20

>> Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker,

155:24

>> honorable minister, we have the

155:25

honorable chief whip.

155:27

>> Mr. Speaker, I'm standing up on 416.

155:29

First, the honorable me minister

155:31

directed her words to a particular

155:34

member. She was very clear who she was

155:36

speaking to and she was imputing

155:37

improper motive to that member. Mr.

155:39

Speaker,

155:42

>> as I was saying, sir,

155:44

>> honorable

155:45

chief whip, uh, she says he has great

155:48

expertise.

155:50

My son has that, too.

155:53

>> Honorable minister, you may continue.

155:54

>> Thank you, sir.

155:57

>> So, to hear from the honorable member

155:59

his newfound interest in democracy was

156:02

both interesting and and enlightening,

156:05

and I hope it came from his heart. Mr.

156:08

Speaker, we keep hearing in this house

156:11

about oil money and oil being giving us

156:17

the ability to do what we're doing right

156:21

now. Um, and and the only reason we can

156:25

do what we're doing for the people of

156:27

Guyana is because we have oil. And I

156:30

want to put that into perspective, Mr.

156:32

Speaker.

156:34

If we want to

156:37

>> build Guyana,

156:39

>> if we want to make people's lives

156:41

better, if we want to put people first,

156:43

we have to begin with political will. We

156:46

have to begin with a love for people and

156:49

we have to be willing to work hard.

156:52

>> When the People's Progressive Party

156:54

Civic came to office in 1992, this was a

156:57

heavily indebted poor country. Hippic

157:00

>> one of three. one of three at the bottom

157:04

of the ladder.

157:07

In 1992, sir, without oil as a heavily

157:10

indebted poor country, Dr. Jagon and the

157:14

people's progressive party took a

157:15

decision that they were going to give

157:17

every single old age person their

157:20

pensions when before you had to be a

157:22

card carrying member of the PNC to get

157:24

it. We didn't have oil. We had the will

157:27

and we loved old people. In 2006, Mr.

157:31

Speaker, we didn't have oil when we

157:33

started the uniform voucher. It started

157:36

at the ministry of human services. And

157:38

that was because the then president

157:40

Barjac, champion of the earth, general

157:43

secretary of the people's progressive

157:45

party, crafter of a budget for the

157:48

people and a man who stands in and out

157:50

of government for the people of this

157:52

country was walking around doing what

157:54

the PPP does best, getting feedback from

157:57

people. How is it we can serve you

157:59

better? People said, "You know, you're

158:01

building all these schools, you're doing

158:03

all these things, but we finding it a

158:05

little hard to put our children in

158:07

uniforms and give them lunch kits." And

158:09

he said, "We're going to introduce the

158:11

uniform voucher program." 2006.

158:14

>> We did not have oil.

158:16

>> That's right.

158:17

>> What we had was a love for children.

158:20

>> We had respect for Article 13, which

158:23

speaks to us consulting with people and

158:26

hearing what their needs are. And we

158:27

introduced it. And when we could in

158:30

2014, we made that a universal program

158:34

for every single child in this country.

158:37

Will, political will, love for people

158:41

and the desire to see your country grow.

158:44

That is what the PPPC brings. What is

158:48

the alternative?

158:50

As soon as the AP and UFC got into

158:52

office,

158:54

a program that was introduced by the

158:56

PPPC to give children $10,000 was

158:59

collapsed. You said you couldn't afford

159:01

it. At the time, it was costing this

159:04

country $1.6 billion to give each child

159:07

$10,000. You took that away, snatched it

159:10

from the hands of parents who needed it.

159:14

But you know what increased? Dietary in

159:16

the budget

159:18

>> went up by 1.6 6 billion. You eat out

159:21

the people money. You eat out the

159:23

children money. And you coming here now

159:26

to tell us about love for children. So

159:30

my dear friend, the newcomer, Mr. Syiku

159:33

Andrews,

159:34

clearly you and your honorable member

159:37

Ketta Macdonald, I'm sorry, she took a

159:39

tumble today. Clearly you didn't speak.

159:42

She is saying it's not enough. You are

159:44

saying you want to squash it and bring

159:47

back the 5Bs program which is it. What I

159:50

can interpret and the honorable member

159:52

is speaking for the APNC

159:55

and whatever other configuration they

159:57

have there. What he says is that the 5B

160:00

program was superior. So what I want the

160:03

parents of this country to know is that

160:05

if the PNC ever got their hands on power

160:08

again, they are taking away your because

160:10

we care cash.

160:12

>> They're taking it away. and they're

160:14

going to replace it with dilapidated

160:17

buses, no breakfast, no books or

160:21

anything else that they failed to give.

160:24

>> Mr. Speaker,

160:26

Mr. Mr. Speaker,

160:34

>> so sir,

160:37

>> this political party, the People's

160:41

Progressive Party, Stop the cackling,

160:43

man. Stop the cackling. The People's

160:47

Progressive Party has consistently shown

160:50

has consistently shown in or out of

160:54

government with or without oil that it

160:57

is the only party the only party that

161:00

will look after children that will look

161:03

after women that will look after our

161:05

Amaranian brothers and sisters that will

161:08

look after our farmers that will look

161:10

after businessmen that will look after

161:13

our service people that will look out

161:15

for teachers. ERS THAT WILL build

161:17

schools and roads and hospitals. It is

161:19

the People's Progressive Party Civic

161:22

that has consistently shown that kind of

161:26

pro poor prodevelopment

161:28

approach to governance in the country.

161:31

>> And so, Mr. Speaker,

161:34

we come to a point where we we ask where

161:40

what is it? What is it sir

161:44

that people want?

161:47

>> What is it people want?

161:50

People in this country have said to us

161:53

what they want.

161:55

>> They want,

162:00

>> you know, Mr. Speaker, the people of

162:01

Guyana had a great opportunity on the

162:04

1st of September

162:06

>> to speak

162:08

through their vote. They got a chance to

162:12

say study the various plans and

162:14

manifestos and promises and records

162:17

because records matter because records

162:20

matter. They breed trust or mistrust.

162:23

And on the 1st of September, the people

162:26

of Guyana spoke resoundingly and they

162:29

said they want the people's progressive

162:32

party civic to govern this country for

162:35

the next 5 years in partnership with

162:38

them. But equally and conversely, they

162:41

said who they did not want.

162:44

>> They said who they DID NOT WANT. THEY

162:46

DECIMATED THE AP and UFC.

162:49

>> That's correct.

162:49

>> They put the the PNC in a little corner

162:52

there.

162:53

>> That's correct.

162:53

>> Oh, how I missed the days of Winston

162:55

Murray and Robert Corbin and Deborah

162:58

Baka. This has become

163:00

>> a shell

163:02

>> of a great party where it appears that

163:04

you could pay to play.

163:06

>> You could now pay to play. And that's

163:09

not to say all of its members are

163:11

without value. They have one of the

163:14

country's best history teachers in its

163:16

seats.

163:17

>> And I hope, sir, I hope that you don't

163:21

get contaminated by this bunch

163:25

of shadow of a shadow. and they spoke to

163:30

the WIN

163:32

and they said to them, "We don't want

163:34

you in government

163:37

because they may well have looked at

163:39

you."

163:40

And what they saw was a collection of

163:44

hurt people.

163:46

A collection of hurt people. No ideology

163:49

attending to this this this collection.

163:54

>> No. What is your ide Oh man, stop.

163:58

What is the What is the ideology guiding

164:00

these people?

164:02

>> One was indicted

164:05

running from the charges

164:08

decided he's going to drag some people

164:10

with him. Three in the front were never

164:12

going to get seats under the Aubrey

164:16

Norton leadership of the PNC. They they

164:19

disaffected over here. Mhm.

164:22

>> One couldn't get back his job at Gauo

164:26

because he failed,

164:28

>> ran away over there.

164:30

>> One treated very poorly by a technician.

164:33

Good girl, dedicated servant whose

164:38

father served the People's Progressive

164:40

Party. Should never have happened to

164:41

her. She's there now. But a disaffected

164:45

somebody else who was hurt, my brother,

164:49

Dr. Ryan

164:51

hurt

164:54

>> but couldn't come

164:57

>> but couldn't find himself still couldn't

165:00

find himself with you the PNC that

165:02

should be your concern so he looked for

165:05

another home BUT I KNOW I KNOW THAT as

165:08

soon as this disintegrates which is just

165:11

months off YOU COMING BACK HOME AND WE

165:13

WILL WELCOME YOU BACK HOME SIR WE WILL

165:16

WELCOME YOU BACK home but this is A

165:19

collection of persons who are

165:21

disaffected WITHOUT DIRECTION WITHOUT

165:25

LEADERSHIP OWNED owned by a person

165:30

>> who is soon going to be departing your

165:33

shores soon going to be departing your

165:36

shores. So Mr. Speaker

165:40

so Mr. Speaker, we come to the place we

165:45

come to the place where we have to ask

165:48

what is it people want from the Ministry

165:51

of Local Government and Regional

165:53

Development?

165:55

What do our citizens expect of us?

165:58

>> Citizens, I don't think you know

166:00

anything. That's part of your problem.

166:02

That's part of your problem. You ain't

166:04

know nothing. You just floating.

166:08

Five parties in five years. Something is

166:11

wrong with that, Messi.

166:14

>> Mr. Speaker, we know our citizens want a

166:18

wholesome,

166:20

clean, safe

166:23

community to live in. Our citizens want

166:26

homes that they can call their own.

166:30

Homes that give them assets, roads that

166:33

they can walk down safely on because

166:36

they're street lights.

166:38

playgrounds,

166:40

health centers that work, schools that

166:43

deliver a solid education.

166:46

That's what our citizens want and we're

166:48

hearing them and we're listening to

166:51

them. And so where how is this ministry

166:55

now going to position itself in this new

166:58

Guyana? We're building out, this new

167:01

progressive Guyana,

167:04

the local government ministry. sir

167:07

is a ministry that cuts across every

167:10

sector

167:12

>> in every community from regions one

167:15

>> to 10

167:18

from the coastland to the hinterland

167:22

in the markets

167:24

in the schools in the health centers and

167:28

in chararma Solomon's homes

167:32

sir local government

167:35

has to look at itself now in a different

167:38

light.

167:40

>> When the legislation was passed,

167:43

when the legislation was passed to

167:47

create the local government ministry and

167:51

to create local governance, there was an

167:54

intention clearly by the lawmakers that

167:57

we would decentralize services. That

168:01

means everything wouldn't be based in

168:03

Georgetown. and that we would have a

168:05

devolution of power

168:08

whether I think it's a good time for the

168:10

country to examine whether we've done

168:12

that.

168:13

>> I think it's a good time for the

168:15

country. It's not you have not.

168:17

>> The country has not. Your party was in

168:20

government and you did the same thing.

168:22

You changed the ministry. It is a good

168:24

time. The the honorable member, this

168:27

conversation would be above her, sir. It

168:29

is a good time for the country to try to

168:32

determine

168:34

where we should be now. Have we achieved

168:37

that? And if we have not, what must we

168:40

do? What must we do? Not only in

168:43

administration, but to change out

168:46

habits,

168:47

>> change out habits to be able to give

168:50

effect to the legislation that sought to

168:52

decentralize and evolve. And so in that

168:57

sense, sir, we have 70 neighborhood

169:01

democratic councils, we have 10

169:04

municipalities,

169:06

>> and we have 107

169:08

>> regional democratic councils. And we

169:11

must find a space where we can make sure

169:16

all of these local government bodies are

169:18

working. That is the mission. The

169:21

mission is to now build capacity. We

169:23

have good people there. We have good

169:24

people in these places. We have elected

169:27

people in these places. And that's what

169:29

matters. So, how do we make sure every

169:32

single local government organ works?

169:34

We're going to have to start with

169:36

building capacity.

169:38

>> We're going to have to start with

169:40

training massively not only the people

169:43

who are serving, but the people who are

169:45

to be served. and how it is that we're

169:49

going to how it is that we're going to

169:53

make sure these bodies know what they

169:56

have to do and have the resources to do

169:59

that. And so, sir,

170:03

>> this budget this year

170:05

>> is catering to give each neighborhood

170:09

Democratic council $30 million

170:12

>> and each municipality $50 million.

170:16

The NDC's will get a total of $2.1

170:19

billion and the m municipalities $500

170:23

million. And this is where we expect

170:26

some level of autonomy where these local

170:29

government bodies through consultation

170:31

with their communities are going to

170:33

determine what might be best for their

170:36

neighborhoods, for their neighborhoods

170:39

to to be able to develop, to be able to

170:42

evolve.

170:44

We have

170:48

>> in in addressing that, Mr. Speaker,

170:51

>> we have to address we have to address

170:54

what building they're in, what kind of

170:57

facility they're in. In that on that

171:00

score, Mr. Speaker, we are building

171:02

eight new NDC buildings and

171:05

rehabilitating five NDC buildings at a

171:09

total of $480 million. And what we have

171:12

done sir, what we have done so that we

171:14

can avoid the drawing and redrawing and

171:17

redrawing is we have determined is to

171:20

determine what it is we want in each

171:22

NDC. We know we need a help desk. We

171:26

know we need a cashier. We know we need

171:28

a single window. We know we need a place

171:31

for the clerk. We know we need a place

171:33

for the rate collection person. And so

171:36

we're drawing a prototype so we don't

171:38

have to reinvent the wheel every time.

171:41

Because what I found, Mr. Speaker, what

171:44

I found, Mr. Speaker, in visiting the

171:46

local Democratic organs, the NDC's were

171:50

that there were,

171:56

>> Mr. Speaker,

172:00

the old adage of empty barrels make the

172:03

most noise. You all sound like you're

172:05

rolling down the road. Clang clatang

172:07

clatang.

172:10

>> So we are we are moving forward Mr.

172:13

Speaker so that we could have 70

172:16

buildings

172:18

70 buildings that can accommodate the

172:21

kind of service we want to deliver

172:25

seven to build municipalities. This

172:28

year, sir, we're spending $150 million

172:32

on building the Rose Hall, Madia Rose

172:34

Hall Municipality, Madia Town Council,

172:37

New Amsterdam, Town Council. You can

172:40

find nothing good with building back

172:42

these town councils. Mr. Speaker,

172:47

so the this would be the beginning of

172:51

relooking at all the great work done by

172:54

the various ministers that came before

172:57

me. the various governments that came

172:59

before me. We have to look at how

173:02

whether we are where we want to be and

173:05

if we aren't, how do we get to the next

173:07

place? That is the examination we should

173:09

all be engaged in. Additionally, Mr.

173:12

Speaker, on the issue of people wanting

173:15

clean communities, predictable garbage

173:19

collection, our waste management is

173:22

going to see uh new and improved

173:25

efforts. To this end, we are building,

173:28

Mr. Speaker, eight new landfill sites.

173:33

In region two, we are building at Zorgon

173:36

Flight. In region three, we are building

173:39

one at Laurent Arena. In region four,

173:43

we're building at Luzik Nan. In region

173:46

five, we're building at Blairmont. In

173:49

region six, we're building at Manorissy.

173:52

In region seven, at 10 miles. Region 9

173:55

at Bon Success. Region 10 at Mabura.

173:58

These landfill sites are going to be

174:00

modern. You know, I can't hear you. So,

174:02

you're wasting your breath and talking

174:03

stupidness. These landfill sites, sir,

174:07

are going to be modern landfill sites

174:10

that look at a circular way of of

174:13

disposing of solid waste. We were

174:16

looking at linear ways in the past where

174:18

we look at usage and disposal. We're now

174:21

looking at usage, disposal, reusing.

174:24

That would mean, Mr. Speaker, that would

174:27

mean that we have to now introduce

174:29

things like recycling, not only to the

174:31

landfill site, but to our children, to

174:34

our our populations, to our homes. We're

174:38

going to have to dispose of our garbage

174:40

differently. Plastic in one place, paper

174:43

in one place, mahal in another place.

174:46

We're going to have to look to dispose

174:48

of our garbage differently, Mr. Speaker,

174:52

and we're going to have to teach that.

174:54

In that regard, Mr. Speaker, we're also

174:58

buying and I wanted to address

175:01

>> I just wanted to address because I

175:03

remember the honorable Mahi Paul raised

175:06

the HBO issue and I would say this, you

175:09

have an issue, raise it with us. We are

175:11

your servants too. We are the servants

175:14

of the people of this country and we are

175:16

your servants too. If you have a

175:18

problem, raise it. We will fix it. But

175:21

that's the difference with us and you.

175:23

We can fix it. You cannot.

175:26

>> Mr. Speaker, at Hagbos, we were getting

175:28

a distinct communities like Echo,

175:32

Windsor Estates, Providence, Prospect

175:36

were complaining of a distinct foul

175:38

sense. Those communities will tell you

175:41

now that they don't get that scent

175:43

because we spent a

175:45

we spent a large amount of time covering

175:49

the garbage. What the honorable member

175:52

is now smelling is the highway and that

175:56

is because it is a design issue. The

176:00

landfill site is 200 f feet away from

176:03

the highway and what you're smelling is

176:06

fresh garbage but it is not reaching

176:10

residents. The experts in the ministry,

176:13

the experts in the ministry, the public

176:16

servants you say you love are currently

176:19

examining a solution for it. But what we

176:22

can guarantee you is that you may get a

176:25

solution from us. you would not get a

176:28

solution from you

176:30

because we didn't get one from you for

176:33

the 5 years that you were in office. Mr.

176:36

Speaker, in addition to that, every

176:38

single NDC, every single municipality is

176:43

going to get a GARBAGE TRUCK, THE

176:47

COMPACTOR truck that you know picks up

176:49

garbage. That will be a first for this

176:51

country. Every single NDC,

176:56

every single municipality

176:58

is going to get a

177:02

garbage compactor truck. At least one.

177:06

At least one. But some will get two.

177:12

>> I never fail, baby. Honorable baby.

177:21

That and and that is her this is her

177:24

20th budget speech. Honorable.

177:32

>> Additionally sir,

177:36

>> additionally sir,

177:39

additionally sir, we are buying bins. We

177:42

are buying shredders. We are buying

177:45

compactors for marketplaces. So there is

177:48

an effort, Mr. Speaker. There is an

177:50

effort and very soon you will see some

177:53

young people some of them in the house

177:54

today who are going to start a an NGO

177:59

that will take across the country into

178:01

schools the effort to change out how we

178:06

deal with solid waste in this country.

178:09

So this is a it's not a one moment fix.

178:12

It's not buying a truck that it is

178:14

changing out attitudes. And that's what

178:17

we're going to have to do in the

178:18

schools, in the homes, in the

178:20

communities. And Mr. Speaker,

178:24

all the landfill sites will also have

178:27

significant

178:29

uh lights.

178:31

To those landfill sites, we're also

178:33

building roads. The construction of

178:36

roads that will cost about $1.2 billion.

178:40

So, Mr. Speaker, you could tell that the

178:43

intention and the desire and the funding

178:47

is there for us to treat solid waste

178:49

differently in this country. And I call

178:51

on all of you in this house, all of you

178:54

in this house to join me on this

178:56

campaign. We we cannot do it. We will do

178:59

it alone if we have to. But it would be

179:01

good if you were to join this wholesome

179:04

healthy campaign to change out how

179:07

Guyana deals with its solid waste. We

179:09

are willing to work with you.

179:12

We are willing to work with you. Well,

179:16

not the one who is sanctioned. We're

179:17

willing to work with the rest of you to

179:19

make sure we can get this up and

179:22

running. But if you don't want to work

179:24

with us, it will happen without you. And

179:27

the nation will know it happened without

179:29

you.

179:32

We also recognize, sir, that there are

179:34

markets all across Guyana. We have about

179:36

34 markets and those markets are a hub

179:40

of culture. They're a hub of economic

179:42

activity. They're a hub of so

179:45

socializing. They're they're a part of

179:48

us, an integral inherent part of us.

179:51

This year, Mr. Speaker, $4.9 billion

179:55

will be spent on either rehabilitating,

179:58

rebuilding, or constructing new markets.

180:01

$2 billion will be dedicated towards

180:04

beginning the reconstruction

180:07

or the restoration of the Star Brook

180:10

market and the border green market. The

180:12

other markets that will be done, Mr.

180:14

Speaker, are East Rumvelt, trust me,

180:18

test me.

180:19

>> The other the other markets that will be

180:22

done, Mr. Speaker, our East Rumvelt, All

180:25

Boytown, Rose Hall, number 79, New

180:28

Amsterdam, Madia, Let McKenzie, Port

180:31

Kauma, study, Lenora, Zelot, Breed and

180:35

Hoop, those are all new. Zelot, Vreed

180:37

and Hoop, um, Tuchen, New Markets, Poor

180:41

Drawing, New Market, Monreo, a vending

180:44

area, the Diamond Hospital area, a place

180:48

at the junction of Suzy, the Tamarim

180:51

neighborhood market, Bath Market,

180:54

Rosiknol Market, Palmyra Cultural

180:57

Market, Port Morant Market, Suzy, uh,

181:00

Better Hope Vending Area. And so, Mr.

181:03

Speaker,

181:05

>> we want our vendors to operate in a

181:10

wholesome, organized space where they

181:13

can earn for themselves and their

181:15

families. And we want shoppers to have

181:17

the experience that would be pleasant

181:20

for them to uh shop in the market. That

181:23

would be pleasant and allow for

181:24

communities to build because a lot of

181:26

people meet in the market, talk in the

181:28

market, and a lot of exchanges happen in

181:31

the market. And so you're going to see,

181:33

Mr. Speaker, a decided effort over the

181:36

next 5 years to make sure our markets

181:38

are all rehabilitated or reconstructed.

181:41

We're also looking specifically at green

181:43

spaces or public spaces where people can

181:46

exercise, where children can play, where

181:49

there can be a safe communion of persons

181:52

in their various neighborhoods. I just

181:55

walked East Velt.

181:59

East Rumvelt is on the list to be fixed.

182:01

Where my learned friend is from K

182:03

Griffith.

182:04

>> I just walked

182:07

>> I just walked north from Velt where we

182:12

saw spaces. I now have a new bucket list

182:14

item. I don't even know if it's legal,

182:16

but it's to swim in the blackout.

182:19

And I, you know, Mr. Speaker, it's

182:21

interesting. You go into those

182:23

communities and you're walking on

182:26

concreted roads and you're watching

182:29

beautiful homes and you're watching

182:32

people coming home from work

182:36

>> and you're watching neighborhoods

182:39

thrive. And we know that we can work

182:42

with these neighborhoods to make sure

182:45

they're better than they currently are.

182:48

And so you're going to see from us in

182:51

excess of 20 new recreational spaces,

182:55

the Ministry of Housing is doing 14

182:57

more. And so across the country, Mr.

183:00

Speaker, you are going to see

183:05

>> this fellow is so pessimistic.

183:08

>> Very pessimistic big man.

183:12

Mr. Speaker, we are beautifying public

183:14

spaces. Also, the first lady's office

183:17

has done some amazing work on public

183:20

spaces that allow all of us to enjoy it,

183:23

including the honorable member. We see

183:26

what the seaw wall looks like. We see

183:28

what 63 beach is going to look like. The

183:31

diamond community now has a beautified

183:33

space done by the first lady.

183:39

>> Mr. Speaker, I don't the member must

183:42

have missed when I said we're coming to

183:43

do the McKenzie market. He missed that

183:46

or he was bellowing too loudly. Uh this

183:51

this narrative so I want to address this

183:56

narrative what we are currently doing.

183:58

So let me clarify that perhaps I wasn't

184:00

articulate enough. We are asking NDC's.

184:04

We are asking NDC's. You're one of the

184:06

payto-play people. The dispensed of

184:08

Annet Ferguson, a hard worker. We don't

184:10

know you. The people don't know you.

184:13

They know Annet Ferguson. What are you

184:15

doing in her seat? No, I know about you.

184:18

I know about you. And it's not good

184:20

things. It's not good things. Mr.

184:22

Speaker, Mr. Speaker,

184:26

Mr. Speaker,

184:28

the narrative, the narrative I heard

184:31

from two honorable members of this house

184:34

and I think it's a sexy narrative. It

184:36

probably sells in your community, but

184:38

it's going to be dismantled that nothing

184:41

happens in region 10. I heard that from

184:43

the honorable Chararma Solomon. I heard

184:46

it from my honorable friend Dr. Ryan uh

184:49

behind Mr. Har. I can't see his last

184:51

name. I heard it.

184:53

>> Region 10, Lynden. He said they need

184:56

trained teachers. Lynen has 120%

185:01

trained teachers. But but I am

185:05

acknowledging here that the Riverin

185:08

communities don't have trained teachers

185:11

because the teachers do not want to go.

185:13

Part of the reason is because they don't

185:16

have housing. So we have to fix that. We

185:18

have to get housing there so that the

185:21

teachers can go in. But to say that

185:24

region 10 doesn't have trained teachers,

185:29

>> do you need a vomit bag?

185:32

>> Mr. Speaker, to say that we aren't

185:34

interested in education. Four new

185:37

secondary schools are going up in region

185:40

10. One at the cost of 2.6 billion

185:44

dollar.

185:49

>> One at the cost of 2.6. Thank you, sir.

185:52

One at a cost of $2.6 billion, one at

185:55

Hyroni, one at Heruru. Mr. Speaker, I

185:58

want to because I have five minutes of

186:02

handed over,

186:07

>> Mr. Speaker.

186:10

>> We are going to be spending

186:13

>> in this year 11.7 billion dollar on our

186:18

pathway workers. And I think you would

186:20

be happy to know that third 78% of the

186:24

pathway workers are women are women.

186:27

Employment given to our women. 13,883

186:32

of them were employed in 2025. 3,882

186:36

men. And on our community enhancement

186:38

working program, 1,50

186:42

women were employed and 1,614

186:45

men were employed. in this year will be

186:47

spending $1.9 million. But I want to

186:50

turn my attention quickly, Mr. Speaker,

186:52

to region 9 because two persons, the

186:55

gentleman who came before me, gentleman

186:58

is using the word very loosely. He needs

186:59

to apologize to this nation for what we

187:01

know he did. Um, and Mr. Speaker, and

187:05

the honorable Mr. uh Dion L Cruz, whose

187:09

presentation I enjoyed was very

187:11

spirited, and you could see that he has

187:13

a heart for service. He's with the wrong

187:15

people, but he'll get that over soon.

187:16

He'll be over here shortly. Mr. Speaker,

187:21

region 9,

187:23

region 9 is one of the most beautiful

187:26

places in this in this country. In this

187:30

country, region 9 is one of the most

187:32

beautiful places, sir.

187:34

>> And he said nothing was happening in

187:37

region 9 and was being neglected and so

187:40

on. Mr. Speaker, between 2020 to 2024,

187:44

we spent

187:46

close to $10 billion

187:49

on healthc care in region 9.10 $10

187:52

billion. Let me let me read some of

187:54

those stats. Mr. Speaker, new

187:56

facilities, level one facilities were

187:58

built at Coxai, Carabai Crew, Quo and

188:02

Marymore. You know where Coxai is? To

188:03

get to Coxai, you actually have to go

188:05

almost vertical. If you look over on one

188:08

side, you can't see the bottom. If you

188:10

fall off, look, Mahipal's puzzled. He

188:12

doesn't know where Coxai is. David Hines

188:15

has no clue where that is. It's in

188:17

region 9, sir. It's in region 9. You got

188:20

to go and visit people. New facilities.

188:23

Level two upgraded ate web corona

188:28

ribb and a whole set more. Level three

188:30

anai carasy sand creek. Total patients

188:34

seen in the region, Mr. Speaker, 62,000.

188:38

The region 9 health story is a success

188:41

story. Our people used to have to go to

188:44

Brazil for service. People from Brazil

188:47

are now coming over to us FOR SERVICE.

188:50

THAT IS A story we should all be

188:52

cheering on. Where is your national

188:55

pride?

188:56

>> Where is your national pride? Mr.

188:59

Speaker, Mr. Speaker, when the PPPC took

189:02

office was voted into office in 1992, we

189:06

had one single secondary school in

189:09

region 9 at St. Ignatius. Between 92 and

189:13

2015 without a drop of oil, we built

189:16

three more. Right now, we have built or

189:20

are building nine secondary schools in

189:23

region 9. 949.

189:26

Nappy, which will be called the George

189:29

Tanko. Napi Secondary School. You're

189:32

talking about culture. Go read up about

189:34

George Tanko, Mirara. Now, Karen now,

189:37

Masara, Tapachinga, Karasabi, Shulinab,

189:41

Koka, and Upicari. Now, is it true that

189:46

they are taking longer than we want? Of

189:48

course, we would tell you that. But what

189:51

happens sir? We go to public bid. We

189:54

advertise on a website and we say here

189:57

ye here. Anybody in the world who is

189:59

interested in this in building this

190:01

thing at a competitive price put in your

190:03

bid. And the MPTAB has no choice. They

190:06

have to give the least expensive most

190:09

responsive person. Now when they are

190:11

delinquent we must throw them off the

190:13

work.

190:14

>> We must terminate them. And we are

190:16

prepared to do that. But what you see,

190:20

what you see in the steel and concrete,

190:24

albeit delayed, what you see is a desire

190:28

by the People's Progressive Party,

190:30

Civic, to make sure the overcrowding at

190:32

St. Ignatius stops. That's what you see.

190:36

How many did the APNU build when they

190:39

were in office for 5 years? The APNU of

190:43

AFC failed to start and finish even a

190:48

single secondary school anywhere in this

190:51

country. Test me on that. Test me on

190:55

that. Anywhere in the country. So, Mr.

190:58

Speaker,

190:59

what we know we have teachers in

191:03

Masanari. Look at them. They don't know

191:05

where Masanari is. They they have no

191:07

clue. And these are clueless. He's

191:09

sleeping.

191:10

>> Mas canary is the last village at the

191:12

bottom of the map. It's also referred to

191:16

as guns. We just graduated seven

191:19

teachers from the CPC, our only training

191:23

college in this country. We have we

191:27

have, Mr. Speaker, training sites all

191:30

over region 9. So much so that we have

191:34

95 98% of our teachers in region 9

191:38

trained or in training. Mr. Speaker,

191:42

>> I will say this.

191:44

>> I will say this in conclusion

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to the people of Guyana,

191:50

you have chosen well. You have chosen

191:53

well in the PPPC

191:56

and Dr. Falei as your president. This is

192:00

a party that will dep that will

192:04

deliver on our manifesto,

192:08

>> our manifesto.

192:11

>> Mr. Speaker,

192:13

>> we will deliver on our promises. And it

192:17

is only our promises we can deliver on,

192:20

not their promises. Because their

192:22

promises were fanciful and would

192:24

bankrupt this country. If they want

192:26

their promises delivered, they'd have to

192:28

be able to convince the people of Guyana

192:31

to come here. And they can't do that

192:33

because they can't win the confidence of

192:35

the people of Guyana. We promise you and

192:38

we commit to you that we are your

192:41

servants. We will work hard every day to

192:44

deliver and where we falter we are

192:47

willing to correct ourselves and serve

192:50

the people of this country whether they

192:53

be Hindu Muslim Christian non-religious

192:57

raster whether they be Afrogion Indoynes

193:02

Amarindian Gy or any other ethnicity

193:05

whether they're from Portuguese whether

193:07

they're from the coast or the

193:09

hintterland or the river rain whether

193:11

whether they're male or female or

193:14

doesn't identify as either. Whatever you

193:17

are, wherever you are, however you

193:19

voted, we are your servants and the PPPC

193:23

is your government. I thank you, sir.

193:29

>> Thank you, Minister. on that 20th budget

193:33

presentation. Also,

193:36

honorable members um from QC we also had

193:41

uh Zara Lock Zara.

193:45

Honorable members, we will return at

193:47

6:30 promptly. Sir,

193:51

>> we now take the suspension.

194:17

Heat. Heat.

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