3RD SITTING – THIRTEENTH PARLIAMENT | 2026 BUDGET DEBATE | DAY 4
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Honorable members, Mr. Speaker,
Thank you members. We will resume our
consideration
of the business of this third sitting
with prayers led by the clerk.
Almighty God, we who are here gathered
together do most humbly beseech thee to
guide us in all our consultations
so that we may together build a land
where knowledge is free, where the minds
without fear and the head is high and
where words come from the depth of
truth. Grant us, oh God, the hidden
guidance, so that we may deal justly
with the several causes that come before
us. laying aside all private interests,
prejudices, and personal preferences, so
that the result of our councils may be
to the glory of thy blessed name, the
maintenance of true religion, the
preservation of justice, the safety,
honor, and happiness of the president,
and the peace and prosperity of Guyana.
Grant us, oh God, the vision so to lead,
that all the people of this fair land
may enter that state of brotherhood and
unity, where their minds led forward by
thee into ever widening thought and
action.
Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Honorable members,
please be seated.
Honorable members, we begin
our resumption
with the presentation from
the honorable member
Miss Odessa
Primus. Honorable member, you may
proceed.
Jambo,
today I stand before you as a
representative of a party that soar
through the skies like an eagle. and we
are proud to be in the house to
represent the people of this country. I
am here today
to speak about the Ministry of Culture,
Youth and Sport aspect of the budget.
Now
I was asked to look for the flaws within
that section of the budget and if I may
say so myself that entire section is
flawed
that the entire budget is flawed
including the cover of the budget.
Now let me tell you something. Please
don't interrupt me sir. This is not
church. Let me tell you something.
When we look at the budget now, let me
tell you, um, Honorable Edgel, Mr.
Speaker, let me tell you where the
problem begins. The problem begins when
you have a minister who lacks vision and
an understanding of how culture, youth,
and sport works. Perhaps if he shared a
closer relationship with Dr. Frank
Anthony, he would have been able to get
SOME HELP. HOW COULD YOU HAVE a ministry
AND HAVE NOT ONE SINGLE POLICY FOR THAT
MINISTRY? WHETHER IT BE YOUTH, WHETHER
IT BE SPORT, OR WHETHER IT BE CULTURE.
>> THAT IN ITSELF says that there exist a
flaw.
>> Let me explain to you honorable Ramson.
MR. SPEAKER, LET ME tell you
this IS EQUIVALENT TO BUILDING A HOUSE
AND THEN SEEKING A PERSON TO CREATE THE
PLAN FOR SAID HOUSE THAT YOU JUST BUILT.
DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE?
>> NO.
>> Can't make sense only to the honorable
Ramson.
>> No sense at all. There has TO BE
SOMETHING THAT GUIDES that informs what
happens within those ministries.
IT IS SAFE TO CONCLUDE THAT THE POLICY
OF THE MINISTRY of Youth Sport of
Culture, youth and SPORT IS A NO POLICY
um position that they have taken. Mr.
Speaker, I took the opportunity
to Google
and I want to put Google out there just
in case anybody's going to come out and
say AI,
what policy is and let me read WHAT
GOOGLE SAYS. GOOGLE says policy defines
goals. It establish operational
boundaries. It ensures ACCOUNTABILITY
AND IT GUIDES decision making to align
with public interest.
Now Google ain't stopped there. This is
not my idea. GOOGLE BRIGHT. WHAT GOOGLE
CONTINUED TO say is that it ensures
consistency and efficiency, performance
evaluation, ACCOUNTABILITY AND
governance and of course it ensures
legal protection.
So in other words, we the artists in
this country have got NO LEGAL
PROTECTION. IN OTHER WORDS,
>> NO COPYRIGHT LAWS. IN OTHER WORDS,
>> IT MEANS THAT THE GOVERNMENT AND BY
EXTENSION THE MINISTER HAS A PROBLEM
WITH ACCOUNTABILITY
BECAUSE THAT FACILITATES for evaluation.
Minister
um honorable speaker sorry I'm talking
to everybody. Honorable speaker let me
tell you sir what I have found within
these things. I looked at the list of
words that we are prohibited from saying
sir and so I don't want to be
disrespectful by any means in this
honorable house. So I decided that to
describe what is happening I will say it
is ruption.
It is ruption that starts with a C.
That is what we are experiencing here
under the ministry of culture youth and
sport. Since there is absolutely no
accountability,
>> there is also um what the speaker
interprets as imputation. Check the
standing orders.
>> Thank you very much for that, sir. And
your interpretation is I shouldn't use
it.
>> Repeat. Repeat again.
>> No, I'm asking. Are you saying that I
should not say that?
>> All I'm saying to be cautious.
>> Thank you very much, sir. Appreciate it.
>> Thank you very much, sir. Appreciate it.
guided.
Honorable members, I looked at the title
given to the budget, putting people
first. I may have heard that somewhere
before. Uh not quite sure where. Oh, I
did. Right. And I was very happy. That
is one of the things that I actually
like. And I'm happy particularly because
almost 30 years being in GOVERNMENT AND
THE PPP FINALLY DECIDE THAT THEY ARE
GOING TO PUT PEOPLE FIRST. AND NOW
LOOKING AT THAT, IMAGINE AFTER ALL THESE
YEARS, YOU HAVE NOW DECIDED TO PUT THE
PEOPLE FIRST. THANK GOD FOR THAT. BUT
WHEN YOU EXAMINE THE BUDGET, HONORABLE
MEMBERS, WHEN YOU EXAMINE THE BUDGET,
DOES IT ACTUALLY PUT THE PEOPLE FIRST?
Absolutely not.
>> Absolutely not. Now for the sake FOR THE
SAKE OF THIS DEBATE, WHAT I WILL do is
go through each of the different
sectors. WE ARE GOING TO START WITH WE
ARE GOING TO START WITH CULTURE AND LET
ME TELL YOU IF THERE IS ANYBODY IN THIS
HOUSE WHO HAS AN AUTHORITY TO SPEAK ON
CULTURE, IT WOULD BE ME.
I HAVE BEEN IN THAT INDUSTRY FROM
CHILDHOOD AND OUTSIDE OF MYSELF AND THE
HONORABLE PSYCHO, WE ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE
WHO CAN TELL YOU DIRECTLY WHAT ARE THE
STRUGGLES FACED BY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN
THE CULTURAL INDUSTRY.
>> Honorable speaker,
>> MR. MR. SPEAKER, LET ME TELL YOU as it
relates to as it relates to culture,
youth and sport. UNFORTUNATELY,
BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT SEE
YOUTH AS IMPORTANT,
THEY HAVE GOTTEN ONE OF THE SMALLEST
BUDGETS ALLOCATED TO ANY MINISTRY. AND I
WAS SO CONCERNED WHEN I LOOKED AT THE $8
BILLION THAT THEY WERE GIVEN last year
and this year they had TO REDUCE THAT TO
$6 BILLION. AND WE HAVE OVER SE 70% OF
THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY ARE YOUTHS.
SO YOU COULD IMAGINE 70% OF THE PEOPLE
ARE ONLY GIVEN THE SMALLEST PART OF
ANYTHING. THIS CAN'T BE A GOVERNMENT
THAT IS PUTTING THE PEOPLE FIRST.
>> WHICH PEOPLE WHO
CERTAINLY NOT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
INVOLVED IN YOUTH SPORT AND CULTURE.
CERTAINLY NOT OUR ARTISTS. CERTAINLY NOT
OUR OUR UM SPORTSMEN AND WOMEN.
CERTAINLY NOT OUR YOUNG PEOPLE. THIS
GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED AND THIS BUDGET
THIS BUDGET IS A CLEAR ILLUSTRATION THAT
THEY INTEND TO CONTINUE FAILING.
>> MR. SPEAKER,
>> no sir, YOU DON'T STUDY ME AND FOOD.
HONORABLE MEMBER, things so HARD IN THIS
COUNTRY, I WENT TO BUY $300 CELERY. THE
PEOPLE BROUGHT OUT THREE CELERY. I
BECAME ALLERGIC TO CELERY.
THINGS HARD WITHIN THIS COUNTRY.
HONORABLE JAMES BOND, DON'T PRETEND AS
THOUGH YOU HAVE NOT BEEN SUFFERING.
HONORABLE MEMBERS,
HONORABLE MEMBERS, LET ME TELL YOU
SOMETHING. AS IT relates to the
preservation AS IT RELATES TO THE
PRESERVATION OF CULTURE IN THIS COUNTRY.
WHEN IT COMES TO CULTURE, THERE IS
ABSOLUTELY NO PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY THAT
WE CAN GO AND LEARN ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO
WENT BEFORE US WHO PARTICIPATED IN
CULTURE. WE HAVE A MUSEUM. Tell me,
honorable members, let me go through the
names of some OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE
CONTRIBUTED SIGNIFICANTLY TO CULTURE.
AND WHERE WHERE HAVE WE WHERE HAVE WE
EVEN VENTURED TO ENSURE THAT THEIR
CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR CULTURE IS
PRESERVED?
The National Cultural Center is a
monument that perhaps is one of the
monuments or one of the that's the
museum or a monument of some sort. Now
let me tell you I have performed
countless times at the National Cultural
Center and if you go into that you don't
go to the culture center James YOU MEL
ANYWHERE. THERE'S NO PLACE WHERE PEOPLE
COULD DO ANY S ACTING. SO YOU DON'T KNOW
WHAT'S GOING ON. I PERFORMED AT YOUR
PLACE. NOW HONORABLE MEMBERS,
honorable members,
WHEN THE PPP WAS VICTIMIZED IN JAMES, I
WAS THE ONE WHO WENT TO PERFORM AT HIS
PLACE. HE COULD GET A DOLLAR SO THAT HE
DON'T HAVE TO FEEL THE HARDSHIPS OF THE
PVP GOVERNMENT.
WHEN INGRATITUDE WAS SHARING THAT
HONORABLE member got the lion's share.
>> He did not pay me. HE DIDN'T HAVE MONEY.
I was helping him.
>> NOW, LET ME TELL YOU, HONORABLE MEMBER,
LET US GO to that list THAT I JUST
MENTIONED. WE HAVE NAMES LIKE THE MIGHTY
REBEL. HOW MANY YOUNG PEOPLE YOU COULD
GO INTO A SCHOOL AND TELL THEM ABOUT
REBEL AND THEY COULD TELL YOU WHO THE
MIGHTY REBEL IS? H HOW MANY YOUNG PEOPLE
COULD TELL US ABOUT HENRY RODNEY'S
CONTRIBUTION TO THEATER AS WELL AS TO
THE CULTURE?
HABIB KHAN HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MOST
OUTSTANDING COMEDIANS IN THIS COUNTRY.
THAT MAN LOVED THE THE ARTS SO MUCH THAT
HE DROPPED OUT OF LAW SCHOOL AND WENT
AHEAD AND PURSUED HIS CAREER IN STANDUP
COMEDY. HONORABLE MEMBERS, I STAND
BEFORE YOU AND IT PAINS MY HEART TO TELL
YOU THAT BOTH HENRY RODNEY AND MR. HABIB
KHAN DIED POOUS IN THIS COUNTRY. AND I'M
NOT SAYING THAT TO DISCREDIT THOSE
PEOPLE OR THEIR FAMILIES, BUT TO LET YOU
UNDERSTAND THAT AS AN ARTIST, WHAT THE
GOVERNMENT IS PROMOTING IS POVERTY.
YOU CANNOT TELL ME THAT POVERTY IS WHAT
YOU WANT FOR YOUR OWN PEOPLE. AS AN
ARTIST, WE HAVE THE HONORABLE SAIKU HERE
WITH US. HE COULD TELL YOU HOW MUCH THE
GOVERNMENT CONTRIBUTED TO HIS CRAFT.
TELL us I give you want some time THINK
NOTHING. HE SAID NOTHING. THEY HAVE NOT
CONTRIBUTED ANYTHING BECAUSE YOU KNOW
WHY THE HONORABLE MEMBER'S idea of
promoting culture is having a one Guyana
show one and two times a year. Amen.
>> Our culture CANNOT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU
JUST DO ONE AND TWO TIMES. That is not
how it works. Honorable member, our
culture should be preserved. OH, FOR THE
SAKE OF PROSPERITY, WE SHOULD DO better
to go through to continue going through
that list are SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO WE
LOST. WE HAVE THE GREAT DAPHNE ROGERS.
MEMBERS SITTING IN THIS HOUSE DON'T EVEN
KNOW, INCLUDING MR. RAMSON, WHO DAPHNE
Rogers is. WE HAVE RON ROBINSON. WE HAVE
THE HONORABLE DAVE MARTIN, WHO OF COURSE
A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THESE PEOPLE DIE,
YOU HAVE THE PRESIDENT AND everybody in
this country showing up to the FUNERALS
AND TALKING ABOUT how great they were
and all of THESE SORTS OF THINGS. HOW
MUCH HAVE WE AS A COUNTRY GIVEN TO THOSE
PEOPLE WHO HAVE DEDICATED THEIR LIVES TO
THE CULTURE IN THIS COUNTRY? NOTHING.
YOU JUST GET TO HAVE A FUNERAL AT THE
CULTURE CENTER. THAT IS IT. Nothing
more. THERE IS NO PLACE THAT YOU CAN GO
and see what the contributions of those
great men and women who went before us.
We have um to continue the list we have
um Andre O'Brien and also I would like
to draw our attention to the living
legends and I'm saying and mentioning
some of THESE LEGENDS. I'M MENTIONING
SOME OF THESE LEGENDS BECAUSE WHILE THEY
ARE ALIVE I HOPE THAT AS A COUNTRY WE
COULD DO BETTER BECAUSE IF WHEN I LOOK
AT THIS BUDGET THERE IS NOTHING THAT
CATERS to those PERSONS WHO CONTINUE TO
contribute to THE CULTURE. LET ME GO
through the list for the sake of the
honorable member.
Miss Desireel,
VIVIAN DANIELS,
DES MARGARET LAWRENCE, PALOMA MUHAMMAD,
MALCOLM DEFRATUS, JENNIFER THUS, SIMONE
DAING, THE YURUBO SINGERS, JEM MADU
NASIMENTO,
um Eddie Grant, and of course the list
can go on and on and on forever. But
just like James Town, there is
absolutely nothing to show of the
existence of the history. I attempted to
go to Jamestown, honorable member, and
if the Minister of Culture decides that
it is good to marry culture with
tourism, I would like to assist him
here. These are places that we should
seek to preserve and to restore because
these are places, whether positive or
negative, that are spoken about all over
the world. You stop AND PEOPLE CAN TELL
YOU ABOUT JAMESTOWN, BUT YOU CAN'T GO
THERE. I TRIED GOING INTO JAMESTOWN. I
said, "Well, listen, I wasn't there when
Jamestown when Jim Jones was there."
Jonestown, sorry. Yes. A mistake is all
right. IT'S A MISTAKE JUST LIKE THIS
BUDGET. LISTEN. LET ME TELL YOU
SOMETHING.
NOTHING EXISTS THERE AS IT RELATES to
Jonestown. You cannot go in there and
find anything. IN FACT, IT'S SO MUCH
BUSH AND TREES BEFORE YOU GET THERE that
it is extremely difficult to go there.
And I'm HOPING THAT THE CULTURAL
INDUSTRY IN THIS COUNTRY DOES NOT BECOME
another Jones story.
Honorable members, honorable members,
let me tell you something.
the theater and members of theater they
have been surviving on crutches
and because in that industry we are a
family we have to hold each other up. So
if somebody's crutch breaks it therefore
means that the person
it
a death.
therefore means that culture is
suffering and continues to suffer. I
particularly
went through what we have to offer and
let me tell you what are some of the
things that I see missing before Mr.
Ramson during the time of his honorable
colleague we had drama festival
and let me tell you this here today
honorable members drama festival is not
just a festival where people come
together and write scripts and they
perform drama festival is one of the
ways that help to save the culture
because very many people would like to
put on a show at the cultural center and
people ask why there aren't very many
shows at the culture center outside of
the fact that the minister is
micromanaging the entire culture center.
One of the reasons is because it is
extremely expensive and when you go to
the business community they they don't
really do much for you unless you're
extremely popular and you know somebody
who going to help you because of you.
You understand me? So that there puts
bread in the mouth of those people who
are in the arts. But the honorable
minister has decided that he's going to
remove drama festival. So now our young
budding actors, singers, dancers and so
on, those opportunities are gone and
that honorable members of this house is
a sad state of affairs.
Now let me tell you I went through a
couple of things and I thought maybe
because of
um the lacking in this particular area I
should help the honorable member because
as a member of this house my job is not
to come here to create enemies in as
much as it isn't to come to create
friends but to ensure that the people of
this country are properly represented to
ensure that the people of this country
get what they deserve and the cultural
industry is dying. In as much as the
honorable member would have these shows
once a year, it only covers a certain
sector. So you might only get actors,
there might be nothing for dancers,
mashmani and these times are the only
times that you have cultural activities
right there. And where do you as a gy if
you're interested in learning how to do
flouncing in in having a deeper
understanding of all these different
colorful people that we see on the road
there is absolutely no place that that
can happen. Honorable members and that
says that we're in A SAD STATE. NOTHING
IN THIS BUDGET ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN
THIS PEOPLE CENTERED BUDGET IS FOR THE
people who are part of the arts.
You know, I listened to the presentation
of Honorable Jacobs
and I would like to take a little
excerpt from what was said because
before getting to this house, if there
is one thing that irks me greatly is the
fact that political parties in this
country, if they did not build something
or it's not their brainchild, they leave
it to fall apart. And that is
unfortunate because it is not the
political party who suffers as A RESULT
BUT THE PEOPLE of this country who
suffers as a result. YOU KNOW I HEARD
THE HONORABLE MENTION THE LEGACY OF THE
PNC IS DARBON PARK.
Additionally he said the athletes are in
their hanging out clothes. Now the only
people in their hanging out clothes are
persons who are homeless, people who
have a disability and all of these sorts
of things. They have nowhere to go.
Their family has thrown them out. DRUG
ADDICTS. THOSE ARE NOT PEOPLE THAT WE
MAKE fun of. Honorable members. WE
SHOULD NOT BE SENT TO SUCH A PLACE WHERE
WE LOOK DOWN ON PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THE
POSITION THAT THEY are placed in.
I did not appreciate that for one
second. Now, let me tell you um
honorable u member Jacobs, I don't want
I didn't say that to because I I mean
ill, but I'm hoping that you do better.
However, I must tell you that in my
preparations to get here, I found out
about how things are going as it relates
to both ministers because I want to
represent people. And based on what the
people on the ground are saying, Jacobs
is actually the minister that trying.
The other minister that WAS THERE, HE
AIN'T trying nothing.
>> NOTHING. SO I THANK YOU VERY MUCH AT
LEAST FOR PUTTING effort as it relates
to um sports in this country. Now that
honorable member has no understanding of
sports. When he was at QC and they play
a little scrubby outside, HE COME WITH
KNEE GUARD SHIN BAD SORTS OF THINGS.
THAT HONORABLE MEMBER IS THE ONLY PERSON
IN THIS COUNTRY TAG UP TO GO AND PLAY A
SCRUBBY.
SO HE HAS NO understanding of how these
things work. But I additionally WANT TO
SAY THAT WHILE THIS MINISTRY focuses on
sports and culture, it also affects the
mothers. It affects the fathers who got
to go around and beg. They can't afford
pegs for the children. You understand
me? It is unfortunate.
>> Deporties. Speaking about deportes, um,
honorable member, um, I noticed you have
a vested interest in deportes. So I
brought this article here for you
honorable member that says LET ME READ
IT. STAB news dated November 4, 2009.
US visa
US visa was revoked from honorable Kwami
McCoy
BECAUSE YOU INTERESTED you think you are
arm of the US government
AND TO CONTINUE HONORABLE MEMBERS
BECAUSE I AM HERE TODAY. I am here today
TO REPRESENT THE YOUTH THAT WE ARE
FAILING IN THIS HONORABLE HOUSE.
>> Honorable member, the honorable minister
of parliamentary affairs is on her feet.
>> Point of order, Mr. Mr. Speaker, the
honorable member needs to retract her
statement. The honorable member has a US
visa. We do not
>> I dated. It is dated.
>> It is dated.
Honorable uh minister, the honorable
member is quoting from a 2009 Stabbrook
News article,
>> right? Saying that the visa was revoked
in 2009.
>> I don't know where our sources are from.
Where's the source?
>> What is the source?
>> Could be Starbucks news article
>> November 4, 2009. Is that is that is
that our sources now?
>> Mr. Speaker,
>> continue honorable member.
>> Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. are
appreciated.
Mr. Speaker,
Mr. Speaker, I have a list of
recommendations even though I will
include some in between the
presentation. But let me tell you
something. I would like to draw your
attention, Mr. Speaker, to two men WHO
FOR TWO men who HAVE BEEN HELPING WHO
HAVE BEEN assisting people as it relates
TO SPORTS BECAUSE WE HAVE NO POLICY that
covers our young athletes. There is a
young man in the USA who answers to the
name Andy Madaz King. And there's a
gentleman who passed just a few months
ago. That man has been a powerhouse and
a champion. And I'm sure that honorable
member of sports can attest to that. And
his name was Joseph Rancumar.
Mr. Joseph Rancumar is one of those
people who we have sports men and women
who go over there. Oh my god. The mother
can't afford things. the father can't
afford things and I am saying that if we
had a policy in place we would not be in
THIS POSITION BECAUSE IN AS MUCH AS
THERE IS ALL THIS EXCITEMENT AND GRAND
WHEN OUR artists come back in the
country from performing overseas and
they hang these wonderful medals around
their necks for which we are proud of as
A NATION THAT IS ALL that they are
getting in very MANY CASES BECAUSE VERY
MANY OF THEM DID NOT HAVE THE money to
go there we got to go to the business
community we got to go auntie, we got to
beg, they got to call overseas. AND WE
CANNOT BE THE FASTEST GROWING ECONOMY IN
THE WORLD AND HAVE OUR ATHLETES AND OUR
ARTISTS LIVING LIKE BEGGARS IN THIS
COUNTRY.
It is disgrace disgraceful and
despicable.
AND I DO HOPE BECAUSE I DO know
>> remember I thought you said at the
beginning you read all of these words
that are
>> which one is it, sir?
Right.
>> Oh, the grace.
>> Sorry, sir.
>> Amazing grace.
>> Amazing grace. Thank you very Thank you
very much, Mr. Speaker. My my humble
apologies. It's a lot of words and we
were only given it on the first day. I
tried to remember as much as I could. Um
>> to continue. I remember your visa was
taken TO CONTINUE. Honorable members,
one of the things that we have to look
at, ONE OF THE things that we have to
look at, honorable members, is our
coaches. Oh my god. WE HAVE COACHES WHO
DEDICATE THEIR LIVES TO THE CHILDREN in
this country. YOU UNDERSTAND ME? WHEN
THEY DON'T HAVE THE COACHES go out to
their way, I HAVE NEVER MET A WEALTHY
COACH IN my life in this country. NEVER.
AND THOSE ARE PEOPLE WHO GIVE, WHO
ASSIST, WHO AID in ensuring that our
athletes go out there and do well. But
as I WAS SAYING, WE GO TO THE airport
and the honorable MEMBER PUTS ON A
FANTASTIC SHOW WHERE THEY HAVE ALL THIS
STEEL pan beating and all of these sorts
of things. Oh my god. If we had a policy
in place, it would have informed what
those people will be getting. If you
come home WITH A GOLD MEDAL, IF you can
get a HOUSE LOT OR IF YOU CAN GET A
HOUSE OR IF WE CAN GIVE YOU A CAR, BUT
THERE IS NOTHING THAT INFORMS THAT. SO
WHEN THAT GRAND ORDER IS FINISHED for
that one day, it is finished. that
cannot be acceptable by any stretch of
the imagination.
One of the things I noted within um
within the budget is the billion dollar
and change that is put to maintaining
and upkeeping the grounds the community
center grounds in this country. LISTEN,
WHEN I READ THAT, I thought that this
guy may very well be a comedian and he
doesn't know it as well.
WHEN YOU GO AROUND THIS country and you
look AT THE DEPLORABLE STATE THIS
HONORABLE member uh she's not here NAME
OF FLU BEST BROUGHT A PICTURE WITH COWS
AND SO ON OUT THERE having a frolicking
time the place without light you
understand me now we are talking about
the fastest growing economy and we
cannot feel comfortable as citizens of
this country to think that all that
matters that you got a ball field the
grass low you put some lights that is
development
>> where do they go where do they go to
ensure that they do the little washing
off, they warming up and all of that. WE
HAVE NOT PUT SYSTEMS IN PLACE FOR these
sorts of things because our thinking is
not futuristic.
>> Yeah. YEAH.
>> YOU HAVE BARTA FOR EXAMPLE, I'm a
bartition by birth, honorable members.
And as a and in Barta, I can tell you
that nothing looks significantly
different from when I was a child
growing up there. And how could we have
billions of dollars, billions of dollars
year come, year go AND IT IS NOT
REFLECTED IN THE WAY OUR country looks.
No, nobody's saying that we don't
appreciate. Nobody's saying that we
don't appreciate the work that the
ministry is doing, but we would
appreciate greatly it if it is done with
holistic thought that covers everything.
We have the beautiful synthetic ground
across there, but do we have everything
as it relates to international
standards? I heard our honorable Don't
say yes, sir. It's not true. I heard our
honorable member um uh Sarah um speaking
about our member across here as it
relates to the indigenous peoples. And
let me tell you something. Well, whether
or not he's a little Maruka, he got a
big MARUKA HEART. AND THAT IS WHAT IS
IMPORTANT.
NOW, LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING. WHEN WE
TALK ABOUT SPORTS AND CULTURE, TELL ME
WHERE THAT IS REPRESENTED ACROSS THIS
COUNTRY. POINT TO THE AMARINDIAN
COMMUNITY BECAUSE THOSE CHILDREN,
THEY'RE BODIES OF WATER EVERYWHERE. SO,
they're swimming since they come out.
You understand me? There's nobody who's
going to say, "Let us put a system in
place WHERE WE CAN TRAIN THESE YOUNG
WOMEN AND TRAIN THESE YOUNG WOMEN SO
THAT THEY CAN COME BACK WITH GOLD MEDALS
FROM THE OLYMPICS." THAT does not take
rocket science. Honorable members of
this house, we cannot continue to fail
our young PEOPLE LIKE THAT. AS IT
RELATES TO AS IT RELATES to youth, YOU
KNOW WHAT IS SAD?
>> YOU KNOW WHAT IS SAD? We have um
Minister Onage building a police station
THAT IS FIVE OR SIX STORIES HIGH. BUT
POINT ME TO THE BUILDING THAT IS FIVE OR
SIX STORIES HIGH as it relates to um
rehabilitation of these young men and
women who have BEEN COMMITTING CRIMES.
THAT CANNOT BE A BUDGET THAT CATERS TO
THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY. WHICH
PEOPLE?
THERE EXISTS NO CENTER FOR THE PURPOSE
OF EDUCATION, LEARNING, UPLIFTMENT,
empowerment of any SORT THAT IS SO MANY
STORIES HIGH. SO CLEARLY WE WE ARE
PREPARING FOR FOR criminals to house
criminals and so on. So we billing we
billing WE ARE BILLING BIGGER PRISONS
BIGGER POLICE STATION BIGGER HOUSING
PLACES AND WE HAVE EVERY single day in
the news REPEAT OFFENDER. IF THAT DOES
NOT SAY SOMETHING TO YOU, THE MINISTER
OF YOUTH, I DON'T KNOW WHO IT IS GOING
TO SAY SOMETHING TO
>> WHAT system in THIS BUDGET DO YOU HAVE
THAT CATERS FOR THAT? Absolutely none.
Honorable members,
>> we look at the, YOU KNOW, IT'S SO
DIFFICULT TO get information in this
country. Every bit of information you
get got to be from some long time ago in
terms OF STATS. BUT IN 2001, the Guyana
Police Force published some information
that really is not much information, but
they publish. And in THAT REPORT, WHAT
IT said is that over 60 young people
below the age of 30
were arrested for committing crimes
within this country. AND IF THAT DOES
NOT SAY THAT we have to take a different
approach as it relates to what we are
doing WITH OUR NOW NOW UNDERSTAND ME
HONORABLE members I understand I
understand my honorable friend Mr. McCoy
may HAVE DIFFICULTY UNDERSTANDING, BUT
TRY AT LEAST TO TRY. AT LEAST TO TRY.
NOW, LET ME TELL YOU. LET me tell you,
honorable members, I will talk to y'all
over here. Y'all listen to me, too, cuz
I'm with y'all, but I just when I stand
up this way, I will see in a certain
face. So, let me tell you something,
honorable, Let me tell you something,
honorable members. We have got to do
better. when we have more of our young
men and women, we look at things like um
teenage pregnancy. We look at things
like school dropouts. I live in an area
where there's so I I've reported I've
called and let me uh there's been one
time that I did reach out to the
honorable member uh Vindia Pad and I
cannot lie she did um respond promptly
and I applaud her for that.
There was a young mother and her child
that came um in the wee hours of the
night with a situation and I don't know
what the minister doing up with that.
Oh, I was very happy that she was up but
she did what she had to do.
But these people even though those
specific situations may come under that
ministry, we still talking about young
people. And who is the minister that
covering youth?
This cannot be the way that we continue
to operate within this country.
sitting down right there
>> right but he he is not able to direct
because we have another person there who
wants to have his own way all the time
now if if I may um continue honorable
members because with all of this
destruction is so difficult to keep up
let me tell you what I have done
>> honorable member you may continue for
five minutes but conclude
>> what story is this thank you very much
Mr. speaker. Now, you know, when I look
at the when I look at the um budget,
honorable members, it it took me back to
the saying right now that a lot of
people are using. You know,
>> I wanted to ask the honorable Ramson,
how you deal with raster, sir. You don't
give we nothing. You don't do nothing
for our young people within this
country. And it is unfortunate. Now,
what I have put together is a list of
suggestions. Unfortunately, in the
interest of time, I may not be able to
go through all of them, but one, let me
go through a couple of them. One of the
things I I meant I listed here is to
teach Gy history, folklore, and so on
within our schools. And I do believe
that that is one of the things that our
ministry needs to ensure that they do to
look at local language, proverbs,
storytelling, and our heroes and so on
should be included in our education
system. I do believe that those things
help not only with with ensuring that
our culture is preserved but also to
help people to have some sense of
identity in terms of who we are as a
people. Um as well as grants should be
given for short films, films, sorry,
stage plays, documentaries, dancing, um
painters, writers and so forth. those
are people who are starving for help
within the industry as well as tax
incentives or breaks for artists who
produce local content uh within Guyana.
Uh most important and urgent of course
is putting together the the policy. I do
remember that the in 2016 AP and you had
this guy who was supposed to create the
policy um and the policy is well there's
no policy and then the PPP took that
same guy to create the policy and here
we are in 2026 with no policy. Um so we
definitely need to look to having those
things um in place. uh as well as it
relates to sports to look at giving um
incentives giving incentives to our
coaches to ensure that across this
country be it Burbese Bartika Esquibbo
uh Letham wherever it is that sporting
um coaches are are trained and are
placed within those communities. Um
Georgetown our region 4 is not Guyana.
Guyana extends to an an additional nine
regions. Nine regions and that needs to
be represented and replicated
everywhere. Um, additionally the coaches
Oh, do something for the coaches now. Oh
child's thank you. Um, so additionally,
um, I'm trying to ensure that I have
everything as it relates to, um,
statistics and the data and so on. I
think it's important that we get those
things out there as well so that we can
understand how to fix the problem. We
cannot fix a problem that we do not know
how much of it exists, where it exists
and so forth. So those sorts of
analytical data is very very important.
I'm really trying to rush through all
that I have to say. But more importantly
um as a gy and as a citizen of this
country two more minutes as a gy as a
citizen of this country I think that it
is the onus of us as representatives of
the people regardless of how many people
voted for us or did not vote for us love
us or support us. If we are seated here
within this house, it is because the
people have a certain degree of
confidence in us and that confidence
must be represented in what we give to
our people.
We cannot you know it is sad that in
very many ways people say oh this
politics or this is how politicians
stay. I do not appreciate that for one
second. How politicians should stay is
in the way that caters to love for
country and love for people. In
concluding,
I would like to leave I would like to
leave a little something that I picked
up along the way. So to conclude, I will
leave some of my thoughts as well as
some of the thoughts as um from our
honorable member Charles Ramson.
as it relates to this budget and how it
looks and how it represents the people
and whether or not the budget of 2026 is
for the people and that is when failures
come they come in batty lions. Thank you
members of the
>> Thank you very very much honorable
member Miss Odessa
Primus.
Before
I invite the honorable minister culture,
youth and sport, I just want to
recognize
three special young people. uh Miss Ara
Aria Murley,
Miss
Javevel Atalie
and Master Obama Prosper.
Uh just stand. Let us acknowledge you
please.
two of two of those young people I know
all of their lives and young Obama
uh his grandmother and I are grow match
and he's born in the same street I was
born with me at James and Hawk Street
all by thank you very much
honorable minister of culture youth and
sport
honorable Charles Ramson
of the mountain.
>> Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker,
>> after listening to the honorable member,
Miss
>> Odessa Primus,
I heard this morning that the leader of
the opposition
had some migraines.
Having listened to Miss Odessa's
presentation
and her being the general secretary that
he is faced with,
>> I can understand why he is getting
migraines.
>> Mr. Speaker, as a threetime MP,
as a two-time minister, as a two-time
cabinet member,
>> I am very pleased and it's a privilege
to support the largest budget in this
country's history.
And I also want to take the opportunity
to congratulate
>> the honorable minister Ashni Singh
>> and his team at the ministry of finance,
his excellency president Ali
and the vice president for crafting this
budget and for all of the successes that
we've had because this is not an
ordinary budget, Mr. Speaker. This is a
budget that comes immediately after our
first successful five years in
government.
And after that first five years, we saw
the decimation of the opposition at the
end of that election.
And the politics and the and our
economics are the same. They are
connected.
>> It is very important that when we come
and present
>> our budget to this country,
>> it is how this budget is framed and how
it is connected to people.
>> The true test will always come when the
people have their say. And what did they
say on September 1st? They said quite
clearly
that
instead of having a one seat majority
that we had in 2020, we now have a 7
seat majority.
>> The 242,000
votes that we obtained, our nearest
competitor had 109,000
votes.
That's 130,000 plus votes difference.
>> We won eight out of 10 regions and we
won region 4 for the first time.
I want to place that on record and I
want to thank all of the people across
this country who supported us. We are
grateful for your support all of you
everywhere.
And on the other hand, we have APNU who
moved from 31 seats to 12.
We they moved from 217,000
votes to 77,000 votes
>> and they were just in government 5 years
ago and now they're not even the largest
party in opposition.
And we faced all of this criticism for 5
years. I've heard for 5 years they would
come and criticize this People's
Progressive Party government budget.
Every single time that they would make
this presentation
and now the truth has been revealed.
What do people think? People reendors
this People's Progressive Party
government. his excellency president Ali
for a second term and a wider margin
and I want and I don't really care what
the honorable members people like to
miss Odessa
the honorable members Jerretta Shirrod
and Natasha St. Lewis, a number of them,
I don't really care what they have to
say because they've held more parties
than hits and jams.
>> And I hate to break this to you, but you
chasing you changing your parties
changing your parties will do bring no
benefit to who you are or what you bring
to your party. It will re result in the
same thing because all of your efforts
resulting in the shrinking of the PNC.
Can you imagine today that the PNC is
not even allowed by wind more than 15
minutes to speak here? Not even allowed
a a shadow ministry.
>> They don't even GET TO SPEAK ON THE
FINAL DAY.
>> That is what has transpired here. And
our governance in the last 5 years has
changed this country in a way that will
change it forever. We have now been
campaigning in areas that hit a two. We
were unable to do that.
>> We are now comfortable in every single
community because we worked in every
single community for the last 5 years.
every single day, every single month,
every single year. So that EVEN WHEN WE
WERE CAMPAIGNING, they asked for our
shirts, they asked for our flags, they
put it up, and they voted for us.
>> Now, and I want you to know when I said
to this house, go back to the answer. I
said we would beat them by at least
three seats. We did that. And I'm going
to say it now. We are GOING TO BEAT YOU
AT THE NEXT election at a with a larger
margin.
>> That's right. That's right.
>> AND I'M VERY happy that the AFC is no
longer part of this parliament. I'm very
happy not to see sticky fingers over
there. Miss video mega who used to show
me middle finger in this parliament and
hold up signs. I am very happy AND ALL
OF YOU CONTRIBUTED TO THE DECLINE OF the
AFC, the same person who is talking
right now.
>> The only person who I will miss and I
just want you to know I'll miss
>> Annette.
>> I miss Annette.
>> Just let you know if you're watching. I
know you're watching.
And from the wind side, I want you to
also know this has been a very
disappointing and not disappointing
because I didn't expect better, but it's
been a an abysmal performance. This has
been an abysmal performance. Incoherent
arguments, struggling to read their
scripts, no economic analysis, no
costbenefit analysis, no policy debate,
nothing. No understanding of THE
NUMBERS. JUST A BUNCH OF NON- ENTITIES.
A bunch of non- entities. People that we
don't even know their names.
And what it has proven is that you are
not even ready for opposition. You are
not shadows. You are shallows.
AND THE FACT THAT TWO DAYS BEFORE this
budget you have to go and put up a
picture with Christopher Ram or I
shouldn't even call the name but with
that person showing that you are
preparing for the budget seeing the
budget for the first time. It is an
embarrassment. You are embarrassing
yourselves and you need to stop it.
>> And who are they taking advice from? a
bunch of PPP haters and dead weights,
people who have never won an election
before. And if you choose a comedian as
your general secretary, nobody will ever
take you seriously.
>> AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW SOMETHING AS
WELL.
NOT BECAUSE
>> not because you have been a comedian, it
makes you an expert in culture.
>> And for all of the people who came over
to the wind party, just just so that you
know, if you can be bought by someone,
you can be bought
>> by anyone.
You have no loyalty to the Muhammads.
You have no loyalty to the wind. The
wind is not built on a foundation. You
as soon as he disappears, you will
disappear too. YOU ARE LOYAL TO HIS
POCKET.
>> I want you to know we ON THIS SIDE OF
THE HOUSE, WE CAN'T BE BOUGHT. I
CERTAINLY CAN'T.
>> MR. SPEAKER,
>> MR. SPEAKER,
>> go ahead. The honorable member,
>> I'm standing up on 41
six.
>> Mr. Speaker, the member is there
imputing improper motive to the entire
win team and I would ask that he takes
that that you take that statement off of
the record. Mr. Honorable member, I
can't uphold that point of order because
on all sides we've been talking about
the name of the political parties and
that has been allowed.
The second point there would have been
the surname or the first name that he
used and with the use of great bishop
uh great bishop nor name of s or flues
doesn't directly speak to any honorable
member. Go ahead, honorable minister.
>> Yet another display of incompetence and
unfamiliarity with the rules.
Unfamiliarity with the rules. I said
this when we came here and I took our we
took our oath. I said they are going to
hold us to account. People who have
never had any experience in government
or don't know a clue of what they're
going to talk about, they can hold a
government to account. Get give me a
break.
>> Non- entities and nonachievers.
it. We have not even heard from anyone
on the other side that we are going to
have to spend less money from oil in
this economy this year.
>> No one from their side has mentioned
that and it's very important when we're
talking about the development of a
country.
>> We know that we found oil here in this
country in 2015. We develop we started
to produce in 2019
2020 we started to spend oil money in
this economy 2022 2023
countries that have done well have had
the maturity from an opposition so that
you can have sensible discussions about
how you plan for the future. You cannot
have a sensible discussion with this
group.
>> None whatsoever. They haven't even
mentioned that. All they're talking
about is how you can spend more oil
money, but at the same time they want us
to hold back spending on infrastructure.
How is the country going to develop?
>> How is the country going to develop? You
have to make a decision. Do we want to
develop the country or not? Do we want
to live in a developed country or not?
How are you going to make the
investment? And that lower oil revenue
is just an example of what can come in
the future because the fact is is that
commodity prices are cyclical in nature.
All oil economies have been a affected
they have been affected when they have
had lower oil prices. And I want to just
point to the fact that the way that we
have been managing it is that where we
spend on the capital expenditure, it
means that we have the ability to lower
that lever. Lower that lever if we need
to so we can scale it up back during the
good days. But the fact is
the fact is is that last year we earned
about 2 billion. The previous year we
earned about two billion. That is not a
lot of money. That is not a lot of
money. We are nowhere near where we need
to be. Our factors and the fundamentals
of our economic growth is not there yet.
We have to keep building. We have to
keep investing because we have to build
a sustainable and resilient economy.
Resilient.
THAT IS WHY READ THE SPEECH. Read the
speech that Minister Ashne
wrote and presented and listen to the
president speak. Listen to the vice
president speak. They speak about
building a sustainable but resilient
economy.
>> The fundamentals.
We have to keep investing in our energy.
>> What are they talking about in relation
to that? We don't have enough. You think
300 megawatt on our for the gas to power
project is enough to build a resilient
economy. It's not. You have TO GET MORE
POWER. YOU think on the connectivity,
THE BRIDGES, all of the the the factors
of productivity, the opening up of land
and highways. You think we have all of
what we need right now? We don't.
>> The honorable member Sharma Solomon and
the the group on that side is saying we
are say we shouldn't be spending so much
on infrastructure, but yet he's calling
for a bridge over the de over the
Barbies River. It means that you need to
spend more money on the infrastructure.
So CN Sharma relax
>> and and the point is the main point is
>> I want you to understand something on
the extreme case is a country called
Hold on hold on there is a country
called Nau in in the Pacific Ocean
listen there's a country called Nau
in the Pacific Ocean. The country was
the richest country in the 1970s
because they found phosphate and listen
the man. Listen, let me finish the man.
And then this was the richest country
and they went down the road. I'm going
to use the extreme situation so you
understand what are the risks and the
perils we face if we do not make the
right decisions.
>> They were the richest country in the
1970s.
Had a higher GDP per capita than the
United States of America in the 1970s.
They used to walk around with money in
pillow cases on their back.
And today they are one of the poorest
countries in the western in the world.
Why? Because they did not use their
bounty for their investment. They have
to take the revenue. GOD GOD BLESSED US.
GOD blessed us. We have to take the
revenue and we use it towards
investment. And the resilient investment
is our human capital. Yes, read the book
The BIRTH OF PLENTY and also read the
book A Splendid Exchange. Both written
by William Bernstein. You will
understand. I know you don't read. I
know you don't over there don't read.
Readers are leaders.
>> Read it and you will understand why it
is.
>> You know I don't read.
>> Sorry, Mr. Speaker. On the opposition
side,
>> you're speaking to me.
On the opposition side,
readers are leaders. You have to
understand why we have to make this
investment. Now, you think we don't want
to be a popular government and just
distribute everything. We're already
distributing a whole lot, but we have to
balance our investment with our
distribution. That's why all of our
grants have increased, but that's why we
have to continue to invest. Now, Mr.
Speaker, I want to turn now to our over
the last 5 years how we have done at the
Ministry of Culture, youth and sport
because what is important
>> the same criticism that we had from Miss
Odessa Primos, SHE DESPITE THE FACT that
the APNU AFC removed the Ministry of
Culture, youth and sport, they disbanded
it. She was a supporter of the APNU.
>> Yes, she was.
>> She was a supporter. You didn't love
young people then.
>> You didn't love their voices then.
>> You never said anything about that.
That's right, Vic.
When we
>> I want everybody to understand when we
restored this ministry, it was because
we knew at the level of the People's
Progressive Party, we knew how important
this ministry was then and that it is
now. It must have a say at the level of
the cabinet. And because of that too, I
want to welcome Steven.
I WANT TO ALSO WELCOME JAMES and I also
want to acknowledge the hard work
another MP the DIRECTOR OF YOUTH. I WILL
TAKE a a sur sing OVER ALL OF Y'ALL
COMBINED ON MY team
all of y'all combined.
We undertook the responsibility of of
building five stadiums and those are
huge undertakings IN FACT AND ALL OF
THOSE stadiums will be open this year
and I want to be clear the first one is
happening on Saturday. It is going to be
a huge event and it's beautiful. It is a
really really beautiful facility.
THERE ARE VERY FEW COUNTRIES IN BAYROCK
IN LYNDON in Bayrock in Lyndon after
they lied to the people. Sharma Solomon,
honorable member and all of the other
PNC PEOPLE. THEY LIED to the people in
Lynen or they told falsehood. You you
reminded us this is the start of your
second term as a minister and you were
here before.
>> I would I withdraw the word. I I
withdraw the word lie and I say to you
they misinformed they misinformed to say
that that
>> this the track would be finished in 2018
or 2019 or 2020 and they never even
purchased the synthetic material.
TAKE THAT TO YOUR BANK ANY BANKET
AND YOU ARE WERE THE MAYOR. YOU WERE THE
MAYOR. YOU ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR WIND
COMING AND TAKE OVER LYNEN.
>> YOU WEREN'T A MAYOR. YOU WERE NOT A M A
Y O R. You were a M A R E. You got no
>> AND I WILL TELL YOU
>> THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT I will tell you
too IS THAT THESE STADIUMS, FOUR OF
THESE STADIUMS, four of these stadiums
will cost LESS THAN THE COST OF THE
DORBAN PARK PROJECT.
AND MOST IMPORTANT, $600 MILLION THAT
WAS UNACCOUNTED FOR, that is not
happening in our ministry.
IN THE LAST 5 YEARS, WE INVESTED IN OVER
600 community grounds across this
country.
>> And I WANT TO TELL THE YOUNG MAN FROM
from region one, I'm not going to call
his name. He's a young man. And quite
frankly, he hasn't earned that privilege
as yet.
>> You say you WANT TO GET RICH. YOU also
said that that you want you're worried
about young people and being led the
wrong way. He doesn't even KNOW THAT YOU
ARE ALREADY being led the wrong way.
YOU'RE FOLLOWING A MAN
>> WHO IS SANCTIONED AT THE highest level
who is an who is now a fugitive offender
who was committed almost every possible
wrong. You're following that man and you
worried about young people being led
astray.
AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT BEING RICH, IT
IS FOR THAT REASON THAT the People's
Progressive Party has the development of
a the the DEVELOPMENT BANK IN OUR OUR
MANIFESTO.
THAT'S WHY IN FACT WE DON'T EVEN WANT
only for people to be rich. We want
people gy people to be wealthy. And
there's a difference. Wealthy is
permanent richness. Richness that you
could pass on to YOUR CHILDREN. THAT'S
WHY WE DISTRIBUTED OVER 50,000 house
lots in the last 5 years and we will
build over 40,000 homes. WE WANT PEOPLE
TO PASS ON THEIR WEALTH to their
children
and this year we will spend another 1.2
billion in on community grounds. Last
year, well, over the last 5 years, we
lit we lit
145 grounds in this country.
They set us a target of 25. We did
145 grounds.
>> WE STARTED FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THIS
COUNTRY. We started for the first time
in this country a national sports
academy categorized into core and
non-core sports. WE BUILT STRONG
RELATIONSHIPS with sports associations
and all of the sports associations have
issued their support for us, this
ministry, THE BUDGET BECAUSE THEY KNOW
HOW they have benefited.
>> Importantly as well, we started tracking
and measuring how many medals our
athletes started to secure. THEY HAVE
NEVER BEEN TRACKED BEFORE. In the last
three years alone, we have secured over
1,000
international and regional medals by our
athletes.
THAT IS THE HISTORY. ATHLETES ARE DOING
BETTER NOW THAN THEY HAVE EVER DONE
BEFORE under the People's Progressive
Party leadership.
WE MODERNIZED THE SPORTS HALL. IN 2024,
I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THIS. In 2024,
WE HELD 29 international sporting events
in this country and last year it was 33.
They don't even understand how difficult
that is. And I want to thank all of the
members from the ministry who are here.
Thank you very much. Thank you.
>> TO DO 33 INTERNATIONAL sporting events
in a country that is more than one every
other week. More than one every other
week that is driving tourism into our
country. DEVELOPMENT OF ATHLETES,
DEVELOPMENT OF TALENT SO THAT THEY CAN
GET EXPOSURE TO HIGHER LEVELS of
competition, better levels of coaching.
We obtained in the last five years as
well. Oh, importantly as well teams
departed in 2023.
We started measuring it 2023
36 times. In 2004
they left these shores 73 times. In
2005,
2025, sorry, 2025, it wasund
and two times sporting teams left this
country. WE'VE SPENT OVER A BILLION
DOLLARS on sports associations and teams
leaving this country in the last 5
years. over a billion dollars.
>> WE OBTAINED FOR THE FIRST TIME SOMETHING
we wanted the CPL finals and semifinals.
>> AND WE ALSO WON, BY THE WAY, WE OBTAINED
THAT at no cost to the Treasury.
>> No cost to the Treasury.
How about that? WE ALSO WON THE CPL FOR
THE FIRST TIME.
>> OUR CRICKETERS, OUR cricketers are now
being scouted and playing in
international franchise leagues, paying
getting paid more money than they've
ever done before. We're talking about
athletes and coaches. AND I WILL TELL
YOU ONE OF THEM. If it wasn't for the
fact that Shamar Joseph didn't play in
that CPL where we had identified his
talent,
>> he would not have made it to the West
Indies team and then also become the MVP
for that tournament when West Indies
beat Australia.
West Indies.
>> We also hosted two World Cups. two
cricket world cups and in the last one
we were judged the best host most
organized.
>> We held the CAC bodybuilding
championship in over a decade and we
issued for the first time with the
international body pro cards right here.
right here. And also the first one that
was issued here was won by a Gionese.
>> And since then, seven pro cards have
been issued. And we now have a world
champion in Rosanna Funk.
>> SOMEONE WHO WE IDENTIFIED early and
invested in and supported so that she
can become the world champion.
>> Lovely. Lovely. Now,
>> because of our bilateral relationships
with our ambassadors and other
countries, we were able to get our elite
program going. Including last year, we
had
Olympic gold medal winner, Olympic gold
medal winner, Felix Sanchez, come and
coach our athletes here.
Hall of Famer came to this country. We
never even thought that could happen.
Hakeim Elijah won and we did that again.
No cost to the ministry, no cost to the
government. Our football team is now or
was in the LEAGUE A FOR CONQUER CALF. It
was in League A for the Conquer Calf,
which was the first time ever, the
highest level that we've ever been. We
talking about it. We've had 15,000
participants in the learn to swim
program, including persons with
disabilities. 15,000 persons. And I want
to commend Steve and all the team from
the National Sports Commission.
WE CONSTRUCTED FOR THE FIRST time and is
now the best doubles court in the entire
region for squash.
We got elected at the UN for in in Paris
for the UNESCO fund for the elimination
of sport elimination of doping in sport.
We held sports conferences for the first
time and just last year we had our first
black tide gala for our sports sports
awards.
We introduced re reintroduced the Guyana
games, the Interg Guyana Games, which
the APN new AFC killed. They killed it.
>> We passed two pieces of legislation
including the much desired Horse Racing
Authority Act. We completed the draft
for the sports policy and it will be
approved by cabinet this year. That's
right.
>> We obtained approval and held the
Guyana's global the global super league.
The global super league which was
something that totally organic to us and
is now a successful tournament.
We distributed more gears in this
country's history. We have done more
distribution of sports gears than we
have ever had in this country's history.
Yes, we can. People will always want
more and it's important for us to do
more.
>> Minister, the distribution of time says
you'll need 5 minutes to conclude. So,
you have that.
>> There is a lot more that I could speak
about for sport, but I also want to
speak about culture because the
honorable member spoke about some
things, but I also need to speak about
some of the work that we've been doing.
The Guyana Prize for Literature after a
new AFC abandon it, stop funding it.
Same group of people that the honorable
member cares so much said nothing for 5
years when APNA was in power. We
restored it, Mr. Speaker.
>> And we added new categories. Now it's
being held annually. We added a youth
category and a non-fiction category. We
also turned that into a a lit literature
festival, a buildout of an entire
festival. That is what we are doing for
culture. We sat with the drama folks.
She spoke about the drama festival in
2023 up until 10:00 at night. We sat
with the drama folks and we work with
them on the right to stage initiative
where the government funds their drama
plays
>> and out of that we choose
it. Those plays come from the Guyana
Prize for Literature and we fund that
and all of the revenue is kept for them.
>> Since then we've held nine successful
critically acclaimed plays
the same that we left with that Dr.
Frank started honorable member when he
left in 2014 they did nothing to get
that the institute of created art
creative arts accredited they did
nothing in fact the honorable member
Natasha St. Lewis said it couldn't BE
DONE. IT COULDN'T be done right here in
this parliament. We got that registered
with the National Accredititation
Council.
We took our independence flag raising
ceremony all across this country for the
first time. We did it in region 2,
region 9, region 10, region 6 and it was
a huge success. APNU criticized it. We
did the mo and our cultural performances
are now totally fantastic. It is
modernized. It is refreshing. And I
would like to thank our department of
culture for all of the work that they
have done. And I also want to thank
Andrew Tindle and the team there and
Alana Sberan
who has worked on this
to unlock new talent. We did the Guyana
talent search and then we also had at
Carifesta and the World Expo in Dubai
and Japan. We had the best performances
there. We had the best performances
there. Persons who are involved in our
programs are doing better now than they
have ever done before. They are earning
a good living. They're buying homes.
They're buying cars or doing
renovations. All of that is happening
now. We did also we started the youth
culture camps where over a thousand
young people have already been trained
and I want to assure the honorable
member D Mr. black pudding
that the ipadi first of all that the it
was the people's progressive party that
voted to support the international
decade of people of African descent in
2013.
It was also the People's Progressive
Party that voted to extend the decade
for the people of African descent.
And we have also extended our support.
We have also extended our support where
the 100 million will remain in our
budget for the people of African descent
and hundreds of groups have already
obtained funding, direct funding. He
didn't have a problem when just a few
persons from iPad were getting it. 60%
of it was eaten up in administrative
costs and they only used to get between
60 to 100,000. Now they get those groups
get $2.2 million.
It was our IT IS OUR PRESIDENT WHO IS
leading the charge for reparations in
this country.
>> Remind me what did former President
David Granger do for reparations?
It was President Ali that has led the
charge and is doing IT GLOBALLY. BUT YOU
DON'T LIKE IT because he comes from the
People's Progressive Party.
>> We have used our bilateral relations to
extend our cultural programs in our
cultural and in and creative industries
grant. Hundreds of young people,
hundreds of young people have received
funding from our cultural and creative
industries grant for which $120 million
was distributed.
We completed WE COMPLETED THE
MODERNIZATION OF the National Trust Act
and I had the pleasure of speaking with
the attorney general who has said that
it will be ready for passage this term.
We did we did 40 meetings of hard work
to build internally that build that
bill. We did that. That bill is now
ready. That is what will help us with
the preservation of our culture and our
heritage.
>> Honorable minister, you will have to
wind up.
>> Mr. Speaker,
for young people in this country too, I
want to congratulate our youth
department. In the last 5 years, we have
trained from PA P Y A RG that APNU
killed over 15,000 young people trained
in that program.
From our robotics and coding, we train
close to 8,500
young people. That is how we are making
a difference in young people's lives. In
our vax program, we have engaged over a
100,000 young people because we are
focused on communityoriented work. Over
a 100,000 in the last 5 years. My
conscience is clear in relation to the
development that our ministry and this
government is driving towards the area
of culture, youth and sport because it
is multis sectoral.
It is a great privilege and a great
pleasure. I can speak for a long time ad
nauseium about all of the tremendous
work that we have been doing in the last
5 years. But you will have another long
5 years when we remain in this
government and a long 30 years after
that because we will continue to work
with all of the people in this country
to bring development and to make this
country one of the most prosperous
countries in the world and for all gy to
benefit. Thank you very much Mr.
Speaker.
Thank you very much honorable minister
Ramson.
And let us now take the honorable
minister
Vic
Ram soon.
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
>> Mr. Speaker,
now sir, the honor is now mine to make
my contributions on this ongoing budget
debate for the fiscal year 2026 under
the theme putting people first.
Sir, before I substantively argue in
favor of this budget, I wish to first of
all thank our most distinguished
and our most veteran colleague, the
honorable Dr. Ashni Kumar Singh, senior
minister with responsibilities of
finance in the office of the president
for continuously making us proud with
your team, your staff members from the
ministry of finance and of course all
the other members of the public service.
Mr. Speaker, this $1.558
trillion budget, the sole objective of
these allocations is to improve the
lives of every Gyian citizen.
>> Mr. Speaker,
as one of the geographic members of
parliament from region number three
representing the people of region three
from the people's progressive party
civic, I along with all my other
colleagues in this side of the house and
by extension the gy people would first
of all like to thank Dr. Bar Jagu our
general secretary of the people's
progressive party civic for his dynamic
for his impactful leadership which has
significantly sir shaped this very great
nation of ours for decades
Mr. Speaker,
every
policy eluciated in this budget
is aimed sir
for the people because at the center of
every initiative that the people's
progressive party civic is involved in
it lies the people of this country.
Mr. Speaker,
as a resident of Region Tree, like
myself, many almost all if not every GY
citizen
knows the difficulties
that we had encountered with the old
Dearara River Bridge. Because for hours,
sometimes because of lack of proper
infrastructure, we spent hours in
traffic difficulties we had. And this
government led by the people's
progressive party civic constructed
the new Demorara Harbor Bridge name the
Barat Jacu Deirara River bridge sir
because Mr. Speaker for us the people of
this country's first and more
importantly sir
all the bridges
are tollfree
because
Everything that this government does
lies the people of this country. Sir,
these budgetary allocations are not just
numbers that are affixed to programs.
But these programs, Mr. Speaker, they
were all done in such a way because we
have a commitment to the people of this
country. The people of this country sir
voted for the people's progressive party
civic continuously because the people of
this nation trust the people's
progressive party civic. Trust is not
something that is built just like that
because the numbers we see the
configuration of this national assembly
sir speaks to the trust of the people
and the people of this country sir
continuously demonstrates that they
trust the leadership and the people's
progressive party civic
>> sir so this
>> victory that we had this landslide
victory that we had in the 2025 1st of
September September general and region
election sir is no accident.
It is because in 2020 we committed to
the people of this country. We delivered
to the people of this country sir and
again sir based on that we went back to
the people and the people delivered for
us because we have delivered for the
people.
Sir, it is important for us to
understand and the people of this
country to know the difference between
the political parties that we have
representing them in this national
assembly.
Let me first start Mr. Speaker a couple
of days the honorable member
Vishnu Pande
made a quote in this national assembly
sir and he tried to use the Hindu
religion Mr. speaker to make a political
point but it was larger than that but
when he quote Mr. Speaker I want to
turn to the quote exact quote that he
made sir and in that quote he said from
the hands hard he said sir
Mr. McCoy and he said I will explain to
you Mr. McCoy, you went to my man there,
but you did not learn anything. You went
there and you ate 27 curry, but you yet
did not learn nothing because your head
hard.
Mr. Speaker,
after I'm finished today, the people of
this country will know whose head is
hard.
>> Because I'll tell you why.
>> I'll tell you why.
Mr. Speaker,
>> Mr. Speaker,
I have in my hands here
Tulsias's Ram Chit Manas,
>> edited and translated into Hindi and
English by RC Prasad, professor at
Patner University.
>> Mr. speaker and this was published by
one of the best sellers
>> on Indian civilization
Motilal Banara's publication one of the
largest best publication on any of these
text
>> and I'll quote what he said sir
he said sir that is Hindi he's speaking
but sir he did not speak Hindi because
this very text is translated in Hindi.
He spoke there sir Aadhi.
He doesn't even know the language he
spoke
sir
sir
and here here it's written here sir
and he even said it wrong.
He said
the text didn't say
the text says
They ARE MISREPRESENTING IN THIS
NATIONAL ASSEMBLY EVEN A HOLY text
>> honorable member
>> Mr. Speaker
>> don't impute
>> I not every one of us could make a
mistake
>> Mr. Speaker with all respect to you sir
I am stating the facts from the text
>> and I may saying that he misrepresented
and misrepresenting sir in legal parlace
there is are consequences
>> in misre
speaker of course
>> in the house
>> all right sir I
>> I'm so guided
>> I determine
>> I'm so guided sir
>> okay
this is hindi sir
Next one
>> that was ai which was wrongly quoted in
this house
right
>> and now I'm giving him the Hindi
that is Hindi
And what it means
the greatest blessing is to do good for
others. And it didn't even mean what he
said. He said something different. He
gave a different meaning. He spoke the
wrong language. He said and then again
sir that is Hindi. Mr. Speaker, Mr.
Speaker, sir, you hold up. I got talk
with you just now. Mr. Speaker, Mr.
Speaker,
Mr. Speaker, sir, I will speak another
language for him
and that is Sanskrit.
He said,
Mr. Speaker, I'll explain it.
>> You know what it says? That in the eyes
of God, we are all one. And that is the
tradition I follow. So all that you see
you bring here and you talk about racism
and this and that what we are told and
learn in the PPP is that every person is
the same in the eyes of God and in the
eyes of all of us. So when you come here
to speak language
>> that is coded m sir that they speak
language that is coded to divide Mr.
Speaker we are guided on that principle.
But before I close on this question sir,
>> I have one thing more to say and permit
me sir. Permit me sir because he said I
don't know a word of Hindi. I'm
responding to him.
>> The honorable member
>> and I'm saying here permit me sir to say
it in Hindi.
Vishnu
debate.
I'll explain it now. I'll explain it
now. You hold you hold up.
>> What I will say, sir, is that I'm
challenging the honorable gentleman to
come on any television he wants, any
place he wishes and to have a debate in
Hindi language with me without not
looking at a paper and if he so do so,
he eats salts
>> from the party he comes from.
But you know what that represents sir? A
larger question
>> that is before all of us here
>> because in my estimation Mr. Speaker
every other thing he said who in this
earth will believe him and if Mr.
Speaker if for 40 odd years he's
learning this and he can't get it right
well went one day. So you determine who
head really hard.
>> DETERMINE WHO HEAD REALLY HARD.
>> So every other question that you raise
sir on Gau we will answer it. But Mr.
Speaker but Mr. Speaker, that speaks to
this political party here.
>> Yes.
>> Because sir,
>> there's a report here
>> and the chronological sequence of your
party must be understood.
>> Read it. Read it.
>> And this here is a riers report.
>> The riers report sir, is dated 14th of
July 2023.
The contents of this report, sir, the
standing orders will not permit me to
say it
because
it deals with serious issues of law.
Again, Mr. Speaker,
the the Department of Justice
now come
the US Department of Justice, Mr.
speaker after issuing their sanctions,
>> Mr. Speaker, it is after that OPAC
sanction that something called win
developed.
>> Before that, THERE WAS NO POLITICAL
party sir
>> and therefore the goal got a lot of
scholarship.
I challenge them over there
>> and every other member in this team here
are fully qualified.
Fully qualified
>> in whichever field we are. Hold up the
man.
>> Hold up. We are fully qualified. I WANT
YOU TO LIST TO THIS COUNTRY.
Show to this nation
>> the qualifications
of your honorable leader.
And if you can't present it, u
freewamiwami
not the leader of the opposition butwami
can present at any time, Mr. Speaker.
>> But you know what? Whatever is his
qualification, he do not misinform the
people of this nation.
He does not misrepresent who he is. And
that is the key to all of this.
>> Mr. Speaker,
I hear
a lot of things being talked about Gau
to watch my time.
>> I heard a lot of things being talked
about Gauind,
Mr. Speaker, the sugar workers of this
nation.
Many of us don't know the contributions
that the sugar workers made to this
nation. And I want to remind some of you
who tend to forget,
>> Mr. Speaker, in this budget,
>> 13.4
billion dollars is allocated to Gau.
>> Yeah, Mr. speaker.
>> So $13.4 billion
allocated to Gauo
and here what Gau sugar cane worker they
are blood suckers sugarce workers gau is
a dark hole
>> black hole all sorts of things we say
Mr. Speaker,
>> the sugar workers,
>> the sugar workers for centuries, even
before this nation was independent,
>> they retaliated,
>> they retaliated,
they fought they struggled
>> for this nation. They they they they
fought against the planttocracy.
>> YES.
ALL OUR forbearance
>> toiled for this nation
>> including David
>> including everybody for parents
>> and sir it is respect honor and dignity
all that we are asking for them to live
with.
>> Yes
>> sir hold on I tell you
>> Mr. Speaker
Mr. Speaker
>> Mr. Speaker,
when in 1974,
in 1974, because some of you there like
to speak on history, the sugar levy was
imposed on the sugar industry. And at
that time the PNC le administration
scooped $475
million US away from that industry
to build this nation. We didn't have a
problem then.
We didn't have a problem then. And sir,
I tell you again,
in 1979,
our national budget was 627 million,
$77,000.
>> And the foreign currency alone,
earnings of Gau was $226
million. Sir,
>> Mr. Speaker, in 1991, the figure
continues, sir. And here here again and
listen well because you need to know
>> all of you know
>> in 1979 1977 sir our national budget was
$424 million $917
the sugar levy
>> the sugar levby
>> the sugar levy sir was 77 million listen
I don't nothing. Listen,
>> it's $777,500,000,
sir. $18.2%
of the budget of that year was funded by
the sugar levy. The sugar workers, it
never went back to build the estates.
Bill Guko, it went to build this nation.
Sir,
>> that is correct.
>> Went to build this nation.
>> Again, sir, listen. You listen. In 1979
learn today 1979
600 this is guys super report and
parliament reports or fight with them
>> 627
million
700 bill come to scale hot get pressure
>> 77,115
sir the sugar levy of that year was
15.5%
placed by from that for the national
budget And it goes on sir in 1989 it was
14.6% 6% sir
>> again hold on
>> again sir in 1991
4 billion264
million sir 25.5%
of the budget was from the sugar
industry the sugar levy alone and forget
sir forget sir
>> forget sir hold we not yet
>> Mr. Speaker Mr. Speaker
Mr. Speaker,
>> today sir,
>> in 2026,
>> Mr. Speaker,
>> the total there's something in finance
called Mr. Speaker, future value, time
value for money.
>> You want to hear the time value for
money? How much money the sugar industry
contributed from the sugar alone to this
country, sir? to this country sir is
over 310
billion G dollars sir and today today
sir today sir from the 1.558
trillion 13.4 4 billions which is 85 of
the budget sessha.
Yhala
yala I'm on the floor you know I'm on
the floor right good but yes sir and so
Mr. Speaker Mr. Speaker Mr. speaker
that alone
that alone sir that alone says the story
and today the allocation of less than a
percent of the budget sir is going to
Gau and you hear all these noises but
when the sugar workers toils to build
this nation many of you don't know that
>> sir Mr. Speaker again
Mr. Speak again. The honorable gentleman
might remember the first industry
to bring portable water to this nation
is Gau. In the 1950s are over 12,000
homes. It was historic and
groundbreaking in this nation here where
almost 12,000 persons homes were given
water free water. Mr. Speaker, the
recreational facilities, the pensioners,
everything, drainage and irrigation,
recreational facilities, health centers,
everything, sir. And the largest
contributor to the national insurance
scheme is Gau
and to date even.
>> I'm not, Mr. Speaker, for a moment for
not for a moment saying, sir, that
estates and industry should not be
viable. But I want to tell you
something.
>> Hold up.
>> You had preferential markets for over 50
years.
>> The preferential market existed for over
50 years. So what are you saying? Sir,
Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker,
>> Mr. Speaker,
>> today sir,
>> the agriculture industry sir is seeing
that kind of progress and development
sir because we are not considering this
industry to be private business.
>> Mr. Speaker Rice is another industry sir
that carry this nation
>> that carry this nation sir
>> and you know sir today
we have the highest
>> production in the rice industry
only y'all there talking about people
the honorable Zulfikar Mustapa led the
rice sub sector to have the largest
production in the history of this
industry 810,299
metric tons and it don't happen by magic
y'all can sit there and be Facebook
warriors and social media politicians
but progress and prosperity does not
happen like that sir it happens through
strategic planning and executing and
hard work
>> Mr. Speaker,
>> your first crop of 2026 alone,
we have 223,35
acres right now soon.
>> It's there, sir.
>> And Mr. Speaker, our target is a million
metric ton by 20 2030. Sir,
>> our export
>> our export sir is 468,730
metric tons of rice. Our foreign
exchange earning alone for 2025 is 237
million US and all of you speak about
rice farmers.
We have worked with the farmers when you
here consider rice to be private
business.
private business. You went to the rice
farmers. You told them that you will do
so. You will do so. And you know what
you did?
>> But you know what, sir?
>> You know what?
>> You know what, sir?
>> When people are in the ICU, you pray for
them.
You pray that they be well because that
is part of what all of us do. Yes. Yes.
>> And so, sir, I will not waste any of my
time longer.
>> Thank you.
>> To speak on that which is in the ICU
because you know what, sir?
>> The people No, no, we by 2030 by 2030
the sugar workers the sugar workers will
stay on their jobs right there inu.
And sir, Mr. Speaker,
Mr. Mr. Speaker,
the rice farmers
when people campaign they know
themselves
they'd made a lot of promises and to the
people and when it's time they turned
their backs and they said it's private
business but sir in this country here
this is a democratic country and the
fact that is it is democratic you can
sit there as 16 members honorable
members
And your numbers there, your numerical
strength on that side of the house is
demonstrative that democracy is alive
and the people will continue. Don't
think the people out there, they don't
know what is going on. Sir,
you can make all the false allegations
you want, but the people on the ground,
they know for years who stand by them,
who continue to stand by them, and who
is there for them. an election.
>> The people know that, sir,
>> you can do what you want, but the
people, the gy people are smarter. And
that is why, Mr. Speaker, we are
continuously, we are continuously
working for the people because we want
to make the people smarter. We want to
make sure that the people understand
everybody. and the honorable minister
and the this government is investing
tremendously in the education sector.
>> That is why we are returning the cash
grant. That is why we are placing it now
to 85 and it will incrementally go based
on our manifesto. We are guided by that
and not for a moment will we ever move
from that.
And sir,
in the rice sector alone for 2025,
we have given in cash money,
fertilizers,
subsidies,
>> incentives
>> of the tune of 5 bill3180
million. Mr. Speaker, that is to put
money in the people's pocket and the
rice farmers know that tomorrow. Join me
in region three because we have
something that is called the crop
insurance
>> free
>> putting monies putting the people FIRST
>> BECAUSE THAT crop insurance
>> the crop insurance Mr. Speaker
>> is that which you know in 2021
when there was this flooding
$2 billion were given to the rice
farmers as subsidies.
And this government understands the risk
that our farmers take when they go to
the fields
to plant crops to feed this nation
and your government,
Mr. Speaker, the government of Guyana
led by the People's Progressive Party
Civic collaborated GRDB, the Costa Rica
company,
and the Morris Phillips International
Company. sir
>> joined together
>> joined together and created this
insurance product
to remove the level of uncertaintity
because of inclement weather condition
sir and that there in case of any losses
will compensate the farmers for whatever
losses they will face
sir This is not gaff.
>> Tomorrow
Dr. Barker you join me
and you will see for real
>> as a member of region three not tomorrow
sorry Saturday
>> Saturday
>> and you will see the real things that
are happening
how it changes and transforms the lives
of our ordinary people. This is no quack
show.
This is real people. This is not
cardboard people. This is real human
beings. We are transformed.
>> We'll have 5 minutes more to conclude.
>> Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
>> Mr. Speaker
again in the rice sector
in the rice sector sir
we have
>> we again sir
>> have done
say
>> yes sir
so the nano fertilizer
Again, it's a groundbreaking experience
because in rice cultivation,
it is a reduced input cost, increased
yields and soil health that is
important.
>> Right. And Mr. Speaker, Terry,
>> the energy and resource institute of
India partnered sir with
>> GRDB
at a rice resort station and Mr.
Speaker, after that our aronomists have
reported that with a nano ura
fertilizer,
we have increased yields and strong
environmental effects for the usage of
this liquid
nano ura fertilizer.
>> So instead of sir spending now $7,000 on
a bag of fertilizer for acre of land, we
can now achieve that with $2,500.
That Mr. Speaker speaks to innovation
speaks to the needs of our people and
that is what sir this People's
Progressive Party is about because this
will reduce
cost
and reduction in cost means more money
in the farmer's pocket.
Increased yields means more money is in
the farmer's pocket. But Mr. Speaker, we
are also not denying that there are
issues in the sector. We do not shy away
from that. We accept it because as you
know in this 2025 last year, we exported
42,000 more than 2024 and earned 17
million less. It means sir in the
international market the price is down
because of an excessive supply.
And so we have sir a responsibility to
continuously work with the farmer. And
sir you will notice
that
we will work we continuously work with
the farmers to ensure that the cost of
production is done. There's more market
in Mexico and Europe so that our farmers
can be more profitable.
Mr. Speaker, one last point I would like
to make in the other crop sectors.
Nari Terry again in collaboration
with Nari
couple months ago I think it's in
October
we commissioned a brand new tissue
culture lab
and Mr. speaker where plants we were we
were able to to have 13,000 plantlets
being done now 1 million plantlets can
go Mr. Speaker to the nursery and then
to the farmers
disease-free
and which will also help to increase the
output of the farmers.
We have constructed 757
shade houses across this country from
2021 to 2025.
And make no bones about it, we want to
make this sector sustainable. We want to
make this sector resilient, climate
resilient, and more importantly reach to
ensure that our nation is a food secure
nation. There are more. There's so many
things we can talk, but Mr. Speaker, I
want to thank the people of this country
for once again electing Dr. Muhammad
Ernali
as our president of this nation. And sir
and sir,
we have served this nation. You want to
hear indie?
>> Sir, am I permitted? Mr. Speaker, we in
the People's Progressive Party Civic has
served this nation for almost 76 years
and we never get migraine headache.
>> Every day we go out. But here what
technology is also where is Dr. Fran.
>> Mr. Speaker,
for all those people who have migraine
headache
>> setal migraine is available over the
counter. Thank you very much everybody.
Thank you very much, honorable
minister.
>> And now for the honorable member, Mr.
Dwarte
Hsburgger.
Mr. Speaker,
>> honorable members
from both sides of the house.
>> Good afternoon.
It's indeed a pleasure
to be here in this honorable house as a
representative of the people of this
country.
>> I can't help it but to certain things.
>> I'm trying not to be disrespectful to my
elders and the disabled, but for you, my
sir, I will humbly put aside my
principles.
>> Anyhow, Mr. Speaker,
um this afternoon I would like to
congratulate all the members who were
elected to be in this August House,
especially to those who are new to this
house um including myself and those new
ministerial um members.
Um
further, Mr. Speaker, I would like to
extend an heartfelt gratitude to the 109
persons,
109,000
individuals
who who decided that they wanted
something new
and put their trust behind this
movement, the we invest in nationhood
movement. And mind you, Mr. Speaker, you
would hear me saying movement. This is a
movement because we have a purpose, not
a party that usually makes noise.
>> Hot air.
>> And I understand the reason for the on
and off of the AC is the hot air that
rises at a certain end.
>> Mr. Speaker,
>> Mr. Speaker,
allow me to make
my contribution. But before I go, I for
the past few days, we heard about this
whopping majority and the endorsement by
the people of Ghana. That is good.
Kudos.
You have a whopping majority, a 36 seat
majority, and you should be sitting and
doing the gods. But however,
you every day
This 16 bothers you.
Forgive you my colleagues on this side.
We we are on the same side. But forgive
me.
Every day the 16 is a turn in your side.
It tells me about your insecurity.
WHAT IT ALSO TELLS ME, MR. MR. SPEAKER,
what it also tells me is that IF IN 3
MONTHS, MR. SPEAKER, 3 MONTHS,
>> WE gnered
16 seats,
>> it sh
>> what will happen in 5 YEARS? AND THAT IS
WHAT GIVES THEM sleepless nights and
they would want to talk. It's politics.
This is not politics, Mr. Speaker.
>> Insecurity.
>> That's insecurity there.
>> A face of double standard.
>> Mr. Speaker,
Mr. Speaker, I stand here to
>> make my contributions to this debate.
My first presentation is to be a part of
this budget debate.
Mr. Speaker,
>> this budget is presented under the theme
>> putting people first.
>> Everybody is saying this thing, but like
it's borrowed. So, I wouldn't repeat
that, right? I wouldn't repeat that
because it's it's already in the record,
>> right?
>> And more so outside of it being
borrowed, Mr. Speaker,
it falls short of relieving the many
burdens faced by the ordinary GY,
although it being a whopping 1.558
trillion. Mr. Speaker, my contribution
today is not
is not to test
that amount with rhetoric. It's not to
test it with rhetoric. is to test it
with the supreme law of this land, the
constitution. Mr. Speaker, the budget
documents and the realities of the
people on the ground that faith daily.
Mr. Speaker, I intend to identify
highlight the deficiencies in the
budget, particularly, Mr. Speaker, as it
relates to local government and regional
development.
This is not an opposition for the sake
of opposing.
It is a necessary exercise
in constitutional
responsibility and accountability
where the constitution establishes
government as a cornerstone for
democratic governance. It is the duty of
this house to ensure that our budgets
strengthen and do not quit quiet quietly
undermine that constitutional intent.
Mr. Speaker, no matter how much we
spend,
no matter how large the figures may
appear, if the constitution is not
honored in practice,
local government will remain weakened,
marginalized, and disrespected.
>> Meaningful development, Mr. Speaker,
does not flow from expenditure alone.
It flows from system of respect for the
law.
Empower elected representatives and
involve people not as subject to
administration
but as partners of governance. Mr.
Speaker, let me be unequivocal.
Money cannot cure constitutional
disrespect. The time has come. Money
cannot cure constitutional disrespect.
>> Mr. Mr. Speaker,
>> Mr. Speaker, local government in Guyana
is not an extension of Shift Changer
Paul drive or the corridors of Rob
Street, right? It's a constitutional
pillar in our democracy.
>> Article 12, if you listen, you will get
the point. Article 12 of our
constitution is abundantly clear, Mr.
speaker and I want to quote verbatim
so that my colleagues on the other side
do not go misinformed or in any form
>> right outside of that
>> local government by freely elected
representatives of the people
is an integral part of the democratic
organization of the state.
>> They had to play an important part in
the development of the state.
>> Right.
>> Mr. Speaker,
>> I notice my friend
>> I notice my friend, the honorable James
Bond is not interfering in this. He's
not contributing to this
>> because we were once at fish shop and
they blamed us to colluding. But I
understand that he repented so I could
understand why he's not saying anything
right
>> without article 12. Mr. Speaker, with
article 12, Mr. Speaker, it is further
further. It goes further. When we look
at chapter 7 articles 7:1
to 78B
it gives us the establishment of these
LDOS's
>> right
>> as institution of God vested with the
authority guess where Mr. Speaker
>> through the ballot box
>> through the ballot box
>> they are vested with that authority Mr.
Speaker
not to be overridden by the by
administrative convenience
>> and by extension the executive.
>> They are constitutionally
invested
in implementing policy programs that
determine
by the duly elected
authority with administrative authority
across all areas with the exception of
two Mr. speaker with the exception of
two and that is foreign relations and
defense that it stays with the
executive. The framers of our
constitution understood that that when
we're talking about development if you
listen you're going everything's fly
over your head when you listen you learn
Mr. figure out where we talking about
development. Our framers intended for
the people to be a part of the process
because they understood that with a rich
nation like this, it cannot be DONE FROM
THE CENTER, THE PEOPLE HAVE to be
involved.
But they also saw that
>> on a macro scale, defense and foreign
relation has to be dealt with from a
macro scale.
>> Right.
Thank you. I know I look I know I look
young. I know I look young. Thank you
very much. Thank Mr. Speaker,
I want to compound this point by saying
on the se on 1st of September
on the 1st of September, Mr. Speaker,
>> I want to
I want my honorable members to
understand that there wasn't only one
elections.
There was two there was 11 elections,
Mr. Speaker. One of those elections the
our electors cast two ballots.
One to elect the honorable members of
this house and also to elect the party
that will be at the governance the
executive arm of government.
>> They that go over the head.
>> Everything is go over the head. could
have lost it with the truly.
>> They lost it. Right. Right.
>> Yes, Mr. Speaker.
>> Mr. Speaker, that was one part of the
election. The other 10 elections were
for the regional democratic councils.
Mr. This wasn't action
a symbolic act.
>> It wasn't a symbolic act, Mr. Speaker.
It was a constitutional act conferring,
authority, legitimacy, and
responsibility both at the national and
regional levels. Mr. Speaker,
Mr. Mr. Speaker, for the past 3 days,
all you're hearing from that side of the
house is about democracy, democracy,
democracy.
>> Yet, Mr. Speaker,
>> ONE CANNOT PROFESS COMMITMENT TO
democracy while degrading the very
mandate that democracy produces.
>> IT IS NOW 5 MONTHS, MR. SPEAKER, 5
months since those elections were held.
And yet,
And yet, Mr. Speaker, Upper Demorara
Boris Region 10
>> Regional Democratic Council HAS YET
CONVENED ITS statutory meeting
>> has not reconvene its statutory meeting
>> to conclude
its elections.
>> You put honorable to that name Mr. born.
>> Yeah, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker,
>> they haven't reconveneed that statutory
meeting to conclude the election for its
chairperson and vice chairperson. Mr.
speaker
>> and a budget is before this honorable
house, Mr. Speaker, prepared.
>> Expenditure has been outlined.
>> The programs are moving forward. YET THE
DULY ELECTED COUNCIL, the body
constitutionally mandated to guide,
scrutinize, and implement regional
development has been excluded from the
process.
>> Mr. Speaker, this is not a technical
delay. It is not an administrative
oversight. It is a constitutional
failure.
>> Utter failure.
When we elected council to prevent
prevent it from organizing
itself as required by law,
>> executive convenience,
executive convenience, Mr. Speaker, is
placed above democratic obligations, Mr.
Speaker, and when that occurs, no amount
of expenditure, Mr. Speaker, no amount
of money can compensate for the erosion
of legitimacy.
>> This is why, Mr. Speaker, that this
budget must be judged not only by how
much it allocates, but by how it
respects the authority of those elected
to govern.
>> Mr. Speaker,
>> when we examine this budget, a budget
that claims to put the people first,
what we see is not the strengthening of
local democracy, but a route either
deliberate or through ignorance that
would lead to its steady erosion.
Mr. Speaker, instead of empowering
elected councils, the approach reflected
here continues to favor centralized
administration.
The dictorial approach is familiar. New
mechanisms are introduced.
Advis additional advisory layers are
inserted. Administrative interventions
are expanded. And all too often these
structures operate
alongside,
above, or around
those elected councils
>> by passing them. Mr. MR. SPEAKER, IN
PRACTICE WHILE LEAVING them
accountable in name
that's a travesty, Mr. Speaker,
constitutional provisions are being
honored in breach and you calling it
democracy.
Mr. Speaker, these measures are
presented to us as tools of efficiency.
But actually, Mr. Speaker,
>> they are tools
They are tools
of central control. They are merely
tools of central control where opposing
views are
>> not supported or tolerated. Mr. Speaker,
sir, let me say this plainly.
Governance is not administration
and administration will never be
governance.
>> Administration
>> administration
implements,
governance decides
in the it is the same way that a PS does
not determine policies.
Similarly,
a REO, a town or is it only the
overseers or in this case the ARO region
10?
>> Huh?
>> Mr. Speaker, when ministries engage
directly and primarily with appointed
officials rather than elected
representatives,
when councils are reduced to delivery
agents for decision made elsewhere, when
authority flow upwards while
responsibility flow downwards, the
constitution is not honored. It is being
dishonored.
>> Mr. Mr. Speaker, if anyone doubts that
this is a constitutional issue and not a
financial one, they need to look what is
currently happening in region 10.
Mr. Speaker,
Mr. Speaker,
Mr. Speaker, local democratic organs
were created to give citizens ownership
of their communities,
ownership to determine
their priorities, ownership to determine
their developmental needs, OWNERSHIP TO
DETERMINE THEIR OUTCOMES. When that
authority is diluted or ignored,
citizens participation weakens,
accountability becomes blur, public
trust erodess. Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker,
democracy does not mean managing from
the center.
>> It must be practiced at the community
level. This is what the constitution
prescribed.
This is not what I am saying. This is
what the constitution prescribes.
>> Mr. Speaker,
no amount of administrative
restructuring can substitute for elected
authority. None.
No volume of spending can compensate for
weakening local governance. None.
And no budget can credibly claim to put
people force while systemically
sidelining the institution designed to
represent them.
Mr. Speaker, allow me to emphasize that
respect for the constitution must
translate into respect for the people.
The Constitution is not an abstract
document to be cited when convenient or
believed to only be exercised every 5
years.
It is a living instrument designed to
protect participation,
dignity and voice. Citizens engagement
in local government is not meant to be
managed from afar
but to be heard at close range,
not to be observed. not to observe
governance as passive spectators but to
actively influence the decision that
shape their communities their
livelihoods and their daily lives. That
is what the constitution intended to be.
Mr. Speaker, when constitutional
principles are honor informed but ignore
in practice,
something dangerous occurs. Citizens
suffering leads to badly managed
communities, drain, sanitation and
simple thing as a playground.
>> Mr. Mr. Speaker, when decision affecting
our major markets such as board and
stab,
decision affecting our sanitation
and waste management, decision affecting
our surrounding community
infrastructure,
decision affecting our social order are
taken far removed from the communities
they they impact. The consequences are
immediate and damaging. Local realities
are misunderstood,
community priorities are misaligned and
solutions are imposed rather than
develop through consultation.
In such circumstances, Mr. Speaker,
citizens are reduced from partners in
governance to spectators of the
administration process.
If you listen, you're going to
understand. expected to comply with
decision. They had no role in shaping.
They had no role in shaping but they
must comply and to absorb all the
consequences policies that do not affect
their lived experiences.
>> Mr. Speaker, this is a quiet erosion of
democracy. Some may say this is violent.
Sir, it is not done with declarations
but with displacement.
>> Not through confrontation
but through control.
>> Not by removing elections but by
emptying it of influence. And if you
want to ask me, Mr. Speaker, what it
means by emptying of influence. Take a
look at the voter turnout at local
government elections. They are abysmal.
The last one was 38%.
>> 38%.
That tells you the people have no trust
in the system because no matter who they
elect to represent them, central
government always manage.
>> Mr. Speaker,
>> Mr. Speaker,
>> democracy cannot be supervised into
existence.
Democracy cannot be supervised into
existence. Mr. Speaker,
>> it must be trusted.
>> It must be practiced
>> and it must be respected beginning with
respect for the constitution and ending
with a respect for the people.
They they're the only bright ones here.
colleagues,
right? They're the only bright ones.
They're the They born with experience,
right? Unfortunately for us, we have to
learn.
We have to learn. They They are born
with it. They are blessed.
>> Yeah.
>> Because I'm listening. All right.
>> When you're finished, you're going to
shake my hand. Mr. Bourne,
>> Mr. Speaker, allow me now to address
a region that
is important not only to me, but to our
party, our movement at large.
I would like to turn to upper takatu
upper Esquibbo region 90
the largest administrative region in
this country Mr. Speaker
>> tell them
>> known widely as Rupenoni
a region of vast distance rich in
indigenous heritage immense agriculture
potential Mr. speaker and significant
opportunity for tourism and crossber
trade.
Rupeni, Mr. Speaker, is home to more
than 55 villages
that covers approximately 57,700
square kilometers.
This reality alone, Mr. speaker speaks
not only to the geographical scale of
the region but the depth of
responsibility
borne by the state in delivering
services, infrastructure and governance
across that vast distance.
Mr. Speaker, this is not a sparsely
inhabited space that can be managed by
approximation
and occasional intervention.
Rather, it is living
an organized region of communities with
distinct needs,
>> priorities
and expectations,
>> development in the Rupenoni likewise in
all other regions. Mr. speaker cannot be
episodic
or occasional intervention often
channeled through the lens of a camera
for the purpose of social media
platform. Mr. Speaker, it must be
deliberate, it must be sustained, and
most importantly, it must be respectful
of the people that live there.
>> Mr. Speaker, education
in the region like Rupen is not merely a
social service.
It is primarily an instrument of
opportunity,
mobility, and long-term development.
In a vast interland region where
distance, geography, limited access
already place young people at a
disadvantage,
education becomes a single most
important equalizer between the
coastland and the interior. Mr. Speaker,
for region 9, Mr. Speaker, education is
not an optional infrastructure.
It is an essential national investment.
Rupenoni, Mr. Speaker, serves, as I
said, more than 55 villages.
Each of those communities, Mr. Speaker,
depends on a small number of secondary
institutions to educate their children.
When those institution, Mr. Speaker, are
overburdened or delayed, the impact is
felt across the entire region, Mr.
Speaker, not in theory, but in
classrooms, dormitories, and the
learning outcomes. Mr. Mr. Speaker, take
for example the St. Ignatius Secondary
School which continues
to experience severe overcrowding
absorbing students from Let Tabaching
and bordering communities.
This school has effectively become a
regional pressure point accommodating
far more student than it was originally
designed to. Mr. Speaker, there was a
glimmer of hope with the emergence of
the Tabachinga Secondary School
that was intended to relieve some of the
pressure of the St. Ignatius Secondary
School.
>> Right. The intention was some, Mr.
Speaker. The exec the execution,
however,
has fallen short tremendously.
The fact is, Mr. figure.
There was at the time little or no
visibility at the construction site.
Little or no visibility at the
construction site. But I was informed
only Monday
>> that work has returned.
Work has restarted. Mr. Speaker, I am in
no way, Mr. Speaker, imputing that the
work the the construction was abandoned.
I'm just saying that the ad hoc manner
the ad hoc manner and not clearly taking
into consideration what is happening on
the ground. Now that project is behind
timeline and most definitely I I know
why it is behind timeline and why it's
ad hoc. It's because of the famous
triplef policy.
Honorable member, your five minutes will
start now.
>> Yes, Mr. Speaker, allow me, Mr. Speaker,
to address the public infrastructure
>> in the region 9.
Mr. Speaker,
road infrastructure, Mr. Speaker, is not
about mobility. It is about access to
services, economic survival, and public
safety.
Mr. Speaker, roads connect villages to
school, schools to schools to farms,
farms to markets, patients to health
care, and communities to opportunity.
When road fails, Mr. Speaker, isolation
follow
>> and that is a real human cost.
Mr.
road infrastructure in Rupeni therefore
required more than speed and surface. It
requires planning that respects
geography, construction that respects
engineering standards
and oversight that respect public funds.
Mr. Mr. Speak, I started this by saying
local government is the key pillar to
the development of our country. If we
are going to develop at the rate that we
are going and if the people are not
involved, we will not get value for the
money.
>> Mr. Give you an example Mr. Speaker in
Bon
a culvert was built.
>> Culvert supposed to build where the
water accumulates.
The people tell them that is where the
culvert is to build at the bottom of the
slope. But the engineers, our brilliant
engineers, Mr. Speaker, built it on a
slope.
>> Built it on a slope.
>> They're listening to the people on the
ground. I guess because we are
indigenous and they are engineers,
>> but in this case, they are engine far.
>> Mr. Speaker, due to time
because
>> because they are on that side of the
house, everything just flies over their
heads.
>> Mr. Speaker,
>> since 2021,
national spending has increased by
approximately 300%.
This represent one of the most dramatic
expansion of public expenditure in our
history. With an increase of that
magnitude, citizens are entitled to
reasonably and legitimately, Mr.
Speaker, EXPECT CORRESPONDING
IMPROVEMENT IN THEIR quality of life.
>> That expectation is not excessive, Mr.
Speaker. It's logical.
>> Local democratic organs, Mr. Speaker,
remain financially constrained and
operationally dependent, Mr. Speaker.
Regions such as region 9 continue to
wait for delivery that matches promise.
Communities that continue to experience
widening gap between expenditure and
outcome, between what is announced and
what is actually felt. Mr. Speaker,
Mr. Speaker, no amount of increased
spending can compensate for weakened
democratic institutions. None. No level
of capital investment can replace trust,
legitimacy, and respect
for the authority conformed by the
ballot boxes.
>> A budget, Mr. Speaker, that expands by
300% yet coincides with growing strain
on local Democratic leadership cannot
credibly claim to be putting people
first. Budget reveals priorities and
priorities reveal intent. Numbers don't
lie. Consequences speak even louder.
>> Mr. Speaker,
>> a budget that grows at that pace yet
leaves Democratic organs constrained,
services uneven, an entire region still
waiting for delivery reflects a failure
of respect. A failure of respect for the
constitution,
failure of respect for the people and a
fail respect for the services the state
is duty bound to provide. Mr. Speaker,
development is not measured by how much
we spend. It is measured by how well our
people live. And in this case, only a
few are living well.
The stats are the stats show that, Mr.
Speaker, Mr. Speaker, until our
increased expenditure produces stronger
local government, dignified and reliable
services,
>> real felt outcomes for all regions,
>> the promise of putting people first
remains what it is,
>> merely a slogan.
>> Mr. Speaker, the people of Guyana did
not ask for expansion alone.
>> They asked for results.
>> They asked for respect
>> and they deserve nothing less.
>> Money cannot cure. Mr. Speaker,
>> money cannot cure constitutional
disrespect.
>> Money cannot cure constitutional
disrespect. I thank you, Mr. speaker for
this opportunity.
>> Thank you very much, honorable member,
Mr. Dwarte Hsburgger. And now for the
honorable minister of Local Government
and Regional Development.
>> Thank you.
>> Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
Good afternoon to you and to everyone
else here. Mr. Speaker, I want to begin
by congratulating the honorable Dr.
Tashnney Singh,
the senior minister in the office of the
president with responsibility for
finance who I have to say is coveted
around the world and who when he we went
into opposition whose services were
sought. Nobody on the other side could
claim that kind of uh credit. Nobody on
the other side. I want to thank our
female director of budget, Miss Sonia
Rup North. Many countries crave a female
director of budget. And I want to
specially mention Mr. Bernard Lord, who
whom I know I bothered for too many
minutes on days that he should not have
been working and at hours he should not
have been answering. But I wanted to get
it right for the Ministry of Local
Government and every other staff in
every other ministry, particularly in
the Ministry of Local Government who put
this budget together so that we could
take Guyana forward by putting people
first. Mr. Speaker,
I listened to the honorable member just
now
>> and it was it was an amazing lecture in
democracy and I met this honorable
member before.
Um I met him on the 4th of of March 2020
and I have a soft spot. I'm an army
wife. It's soft spot for some army
people. And I actually believed his plea
when he said we were making a mountain
out of a mole hill. I didn't realize
that we were in the midst of an election
rig
>> that the honorable member was very
familiar with. And I thought he would be
shadowing not local government. He has
great expertise in computers, wiping
them and flash drives and assisting
people to do that. and the honorable
member.
>> Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker,
>> honorable minister, we have the
honorable chief whip.
>> Mr. Speaker, I'm standing up on 416.
First, the honorable me minister
directed her words to a particular
member. She was very clear who she was
speaking to and she was imputing
improper motive to that member. Mr.
Speaker,
>> as I was saying, sir,
>> honorable
chief whip, uh, she says he has great
expertise.
My son has that, too.
>> Honorable minister, you may continue.
>> Thank you, sir.
>> So, to hear from the honorable member
his newfound interest in democracy was
both interesting and and enlightening,
and I hope it came from his heart. Mr.
Speaker, we keep hearing in this house
about oil money and oil being giving us
the ability to do what we're doing right
now. Um, and and the only reason we can
do what we're doing for the people of
Guyana is because we have oil. And I
want to put that into perspective, Mr.
Speaker.
If we want to
>> build Guyana,
>> if we want to make people's lives
better, if we want to put people first,
we have to begin with political will. We
have to begin with a love for people and
we have to be willing to work hard.
>> When the People's Progressive Party
Civic came to office in 1992, this was a
heavily indebted poor country. Hippic
>> one of three. one of three at the bottom
of the ladder.
In 1992, sir, without oil as a heavily
indebted poor country, Dr. Jagon and the
people's progressive party took a
decision that they were going to give
every single old age person their
pensions when before you had to be a
card carrying member of the PNC to get
it. We didn't have oil. We had the will
and we loved old people. In 2006, Mr.
Speaker, we didn't have oil when we
started the uniform voucher. It started
at the ministry of human services. And
that was because the then president
Barjac, champion of the earth, general
secretary of the people's progressive
party, crafter of a budget for the
people and a man who stands in and out
of government for the people of this
country was walking around doing what
the PPP does best, getting feedback from
people. How is it we can serve you
better? People said, "You know, you're
building all these schools, you're doing
all these things, but we finding it a
little hard to put our children in
uniforms and give them lunch kits." And
he said, "We're going to introduce the
uniform voucher program." 2006.
>> We did not have oil.
>> That's right.
>> What we had was a love for children.
>> We had respect for Article 13, which
speaks to us consulting with people and
hearing what their needs are. And we
introduced it. And when we could in
2014, we made that a universal program
for every single child in this country.
Will, political will, love for people
and the desire to see your country grow.
That is what the PPPC brings. What is
the alternative?
As soon as the AP and UFC got into
office,
a program that was introduced by the
PPPC to give children $10,000 was
collapsed. You said you couldn't afford
it. At the time, it was costing this
country $1.6 billion to give each child
$10,000. You took that away, snatched it
from the hands of parents who needed it.
But you know what increased? Dietary in
the budget
>> went up by 1.6 6 billion. You eat out
the people money. You eat out the
children money. And you coming here now
to tell us about love for children. So
my dear friend, the newcomer, Mr. Syiku
Andrews,
clearly you and your honorable member
Ketta Macdonald, I'm sorry, she took a
tumble today. Clearly you didn't speak.
She is saying it's not enough. You are
saying you want to squash it and bring
back the 5Bs program which is it. What I
can interpret and the honorable member
is speaking for the APNC
and whatever other configuration they
have there. What he says is that the 5B
program was superior. So what I want the
parents of this country to know is that
if the PNC ever got their hands on power
again, they are taking away your because
we care cash.
>> They're taking it away. and they're
going to replace it with dilapidated
buses, no breakfast, no books or
anything else that they failed to give.
>> Mr. Speaker,
Mr. Mr. Speaker,
>> so sir,
>> this political party, the People's
Progressive Party, Stop the cackling,
man. Stop the cackling. The People's
Progressive Party has consistently shown
has consistently shown in or out of
government with or without oil that it
is the only party the only party that
will look after children that will look
after women that will look after our
Amaranian brothers and sisters that will
look after our farmers that will look
after businessmen that will look after
our service people that will look out
for teachers. ERS THAT WILL build
schools and roads and hospitals. It is
the People's Progressive Party Civic
that has consistently shown that kind of
pro poor prodevelopment
approach to governance in the country.
>> And so, Mr. Speaker,
we come to a point where we we ask where
what is it? What is it sir
that people want?
>> What is it people want?
People in this country have said to us
what they want.
>> They want,
>> you know, Mr. Speaker, the people of
Guyana had a great opportunity on the
1st of September
>> to speak
through their vote. They got a chance to
say study the various plans and
manifestos and promises and records
because records matter because records
matter. They breed trust or mistrust.
And on the 1st of September, the people
of Guyana spoke resoundingly and they
said they want the people's progressive
party civic to govern this country for
the next 5 years in partnership with
them. But equally and conversely, they
said who they did not want.
>> They said who they DID NOT WANT. THEY
DECIMATED THE AP and UFC.
>> That's correct.
>> They put the the PNC in a little corner
there.
>> That's correct.
>> Oh, how I missed the days of Winston
Murray and Robert Corbin and Deborah
Baka. This has become
>> a shell
>> of a great party where it appears that
you could pay to play.
>> You could now pay to play. And that's
not to say all of its members are
without value. They have one of the
country's best history teachers in its
seats.
>> And I hope, sir, I hope that you don't
get contaminated by this bunch
of shadow of a shadow. and they spoke to
the WIN
and they said to them, "We don't want
you in government
because they may well have looked at
you."
And what they saw was a collection of
hurt people.
A collection of hurt people. No ideology
attending to this this this collection.
>> No. What is your ide Oh man, stop.
What is the What is the ideology guiding
these people?
>> One was indicted
running from the charges
decided he's going to drag some people
with him. Three in the front were never
going to get seats under the Aubrey
Norton leadership of the PNC. They they
disaffected over here. Mhm.
>> One couldn't get back his job at Gauo
because he failed,
>> ran away over there.
>> One treated very poorly by a technician.
Good girl, dedicated servant whose
father served the People's Progressive
Party. Should never have happened to
her. She's there now. But a disaffected
somebody else who was hurt, my brother,
Dr. Ryan
hurt
>> but couldn't come
>> but couldn't find himself still couldn't
find himself with you the PNC that
should be your concern so he looked for
another home BUT I KNOW I KNOW THAT as
soon as this disintegrates which is just
months off YOU COMING BACK HOME AND WE
WILL WELCOME YOU BACK HOME SIR WE WILL
WELCOME YOU BACK home but this is A
collection of persons who are
disaffected WITHOUT DIRECTION WITHOUT
LEADERSHIP OWNED owned by a person
>> who is soon going to be departing your
shores soon going to be departing your
shores. So Mr. Speaker
so Mr. Speaker, we come to the place we
come to the place where we have to ask
what is it people want from the Ministry
of Local Government and Regional
Development?
What do our citizens expect of us?
>> Citizens, I don't think you know
anything. That's part of your problem.
That's part of your problem. You ain't
know nothing. You just floating.
Five parties in five years. Something is
wrong with that, Messi.
>> Mr. Speaker, we know our citizens want a
wholesome,
clean, safe
community to live in. Our citizens want
homes that they can call their own.
Homes that give them assets, roads that
they can walk down safely on because
they're street lights.
playgrounds,
health centers that work, schools that
deliver a solid education.
That's what our citizens want and we're
hearing them and we're listening to
them. And so where how is this ministry
now going to position itself in this new
Guyana? We're building out, this new
progressive Guyana,
the local government ministry. sir
is a ministry that cuts across every
sector
>> in every community from regions one
>> to 10
from the coastland to the hinterland
in the markets
in the schools in the health centers and
in chararma Solomon's homes
sir local government
has to look at itself now in a different
light.
>> When the legislation was passed,
when the legislation was passed to
create the local government ministry and
to create local governance, there was an
intention clearly by the lawmakers that
we would decentralize services. That
means everything wouldn't be based in
Georgetown. and that we would have a
devolution of power
whether I think it's a good time for the
country to examine whether we've done
that.
>> I think it's a good time for the
country. It's not you have not.
>> The country has not. Your party was in
government and you did the same thing.
You changed the ministry. It is a good
time. The the honorable member, this
conversation would be above her, sir. It
is a good time for the country to try to
determine
where we should be now. Have we achieved
that? And if we have not, what must we
do? What must we do? Not only in
administration, but to change out
habits,
>> change out habits to be able to give
effect to the legislation that sought to
decentralize and evolve. And so in that
sense, sir, we have 70 neighborhood
democratic councils, we have 10
municipalities,
>> and we have 107
>> regional democratic councils. And we
must find a space where we can make sure
all of these local government bodies are
working. That is the mission. The
mission is to now build capacity. We
have good people there. We have good
people in these places. We have elected
people in these places. And that's what
matters. So, how do we make sure every
single local government organ works?
We're going to have to start with
building capacity.
>> We're going to have to start with
training massively not only the people
who are serving, but the people who are
to be served. and how it is that we're
going to how it is that we're going to
make sure these bodies know what they
have to do and have the resources to do
that. And so, sir,
>> this budget this year
>> is catering to give each neighborhood
Democratic council $30 million
>> and each municipality $50 million.
The NDC's will get a total of $2.1
billion and the m municipalities $500
million. And this is where we expect
some level of autonomy where these local
government bodies through consultation
with their communities are going to
determine what might be best for their
neighborhoods, for their neighborhoods
to to be able to develop, to be able to
evolve.
We have
>> in in addressing that, Mr. Speaker,
>> we have to address we have to address
what building they're in, what kind of
facility they're in. In that on that
score, Mr. Speaker, we are building
eight new NDC buildings and
rehabilitating five NDC buildings at a
total of $480 million. And what we have
done sir, what we have done so that we
can avoid the drawing and redrawing and
redrawing is we have determined is to
determine what it is we want in each
NDC. We know we need a help desk. We
know we need a cashier. We know we need
a single window. We know we need a place
for the clerk. We know we need a place
for the rate collection person. And so
we're drawing a prototype so we don't
have to reinvent the wheel every time.
Because what I found, Mr. Speaker, what
I found, Mr. Speaker, in visiting the
local Democratic organs, the NDC's were
that there were,
>> Mr. Speaker,
the old adage of empty barrels make the
most noise. You all sound like you're
rolling down the road. Clang clatang
clatang.
>> So we are we are moving forward Mr.
Speaker so that we could have 70
buildings
70 buildings that can accommodate the
kind of service we want to deliver
seven to build municipalities. This
year, sir, we're spending $150 million
on building the Rose Hall, Madia Rose
Hall Municipality, Madia Town Council,
New Amsterdam, Town Council. You can
find nothing good with building back
these town councils. Mr. Speaker,
so the this would be the beginning of
relooking at all the great work done by
the various ministers that came before
me. the various governments that came
before me. We have to look at how
whether we are where we want to be and
if we aren't, how do we get to the next
place? That is the examination we should
all be engaged in. Additionally, Mr.
Speaker, on the issue of people wanting
clean communities, predictable garbage
collection, our waste management is
going to see uh new and improved
efforts. To this end, we are building,
Mr. Speaker, eight new landfill sites.
In region two, we are building at Zorgon
Flight. In region three, we are building
one at Laurent Arena. In region four,
we're building at Luzik Nan. In region
five, we're building at Blairmont. In
region six, we're building at Manorissy.
In region seven, at 10 miles. Region 9
at Bon Success. Region 10 at Mabura.
These landfill sites are going to be
modern. You know, I can't hear you. So,
you're wasting your breath and talking
stupidness. These landfill sites, sir,
are going to be modern landfill sites
that look at a circular way of of
disposing of solid waste. We were
looking at linear ways in the past where
we look at usage and disposal. We're now
looking at usage, disposal, reusing.
That would mean, Mr. Speaker, that would
mean that we have to now introduce
things like recycling, not only to the
landfill site, but to our children, to
our our populations, to our homes. We're
going to have to dispose of our garbage
differently. Plastic in one place, paper
in one place, mahal in another place.
We're going to have to look to dispose
of our garbage differently, Mr. Speaker,
and we're going to have to teach that.
In that regard, Mr. Speaker, we're also
buying and I wanted to address
>> I just wanted to address because I
remember the honorable Mahi Paul raised
the HBO issue and I would say this, you
have an issue, raise it with us. We are
your servants too. We are the servants
of the people of this country and we are
your servants too. If you have a
problem, raise it. We will fix it. But
that's the difference with us and you.
We can fix it. You cannot.
>> Mr. Speaker, at Hagbos, we were getting
a distinct communities like Echo,
Windsor Estates, Providence, Prospect
were complaining of a distinct foul
sense. Those communities will tell you
now that they don't get that scent
because we spent a
we spent a large amount of time covering
the garbage. What the honorable member
is now smelling is the highway and that
is because it is a design issue. The
landfill site is 200 f feet away from
the highway and what you're smelling is
fresh garbage but it is not reaching
residents. The experts in the ministry,
the experts in the ministry, the public
servants you say you love are currently
examining a solution for it. But what we
can guarantee you is that you may get a
solution from us. you would not get a
solution from you
because we didn't get one from you for
the 5 years that you were in office. Mr.
Speaker, in addition to that, every
single NDC, every single municipality is
going to get a GARBAGE TRUCK, THE
COMPACTOR truck that you know picks up
garbage. That will be a first for this
country. Every single NDC,
every single municipality
is going to get a
garbage compactor truck. At least one.
At least one. But some will get two.
>> I never fail, baby. Honorable baby.
That and and that is her this is her
20th budget speech. Honorable.
>> Additionally sir,
>> additionally sir,
additionally sir, we are buying bins. We
are buying shredders. We are buying
compactors for marketplaces. So there is
an effort, Mr. Speaker. There is an
effort and very soon you will see some
young people some of them in the house
today who are going to start a an NGO
that will take across the country into
schools the effort to change out how we
deal with solid waste in this country.
So this is a it's not a one moment fix.
It's not buying a truck that it is
changing out attitudes. And that's what
we're going to have to do in the
schools, in the homes, in the
communities. And Mr. Speaker,
all the landfill sites will also have
significant
uh lights.
To those landfill sites, we're also
building roads. The construction of
roads that will cost about $1.2 billion.
So, Mr. Speaker, you could tell that the
intention and the desire and the funding
is there for us to treat solid waste
differently in this country. And I call
on all of you in this house, all of you
in this house to join me on this
campaign. We we cannot do it. We will do
it alone if we have to. But it would be
good if you were to join this wholesome
healthy campaign to change out how
Guyana deals with its solid waste. We
are willing to work with you.
We are willing to work with you. Well,
not the one who is sanctioned. We're
willing to work with the rest of you to
make sure we can get this up and
running. But if you don't want to work
with us, it will happen without you. And
the nation will know it happened without
you.
We also recognize, sir, that there are
markets all across Guyana. We have about
34 markets and those markets are a hub
of culture. They're a hub of economic
activity. They're a hub of so
socializing. They're they're a part of
us, an integral inherent part of us.
This year, Mr. Speaker, $4.9 billion
will be spent on either rehabilitating,
rebuilding, or constructing new markets.
$2 billion will be dedicated towards
beginning the reconstruction
or the restoration of the Star Brook
market and the border green market. The
other markets that will be done, Mr.
Speaker, are East Rumvelt, trust me,
test me.
>> The other the other markets that will be
done, Mr. Speaker, our East Rumvelt, All
Boytown, Rose Hall, number 79, New
Amsterdam, Madia, Let McKenzie, Port
Kauma, study, Lenora, Zelot, Breed and
Hoop, those are all new. Zelot, Vreed
and Hoop, um, Tuchen, New Markets, Poor
Drawing, New Market, Monreo, a vending
area, the Diamond Hospital area, a place
at the junction of Suzy, the Tamarim
neighborhood market, Bath Market,
Rosiknol Market, Palmyra Cultural
Market, Port Morant Market, Suzy, uh,
Better Hope Vending Area. And so, Mr.
Speaker,
>> we want our vendors to operate in a
wholesome, organized space where they
can earn for themselves and their
families. And we want shoppers to have
the experience that would be pleasant
for them to uh shop in the market. That
would be pleasant and allow for
communities to build because a lot of
people meet in the market, talk in the
market, and a lot of exchanges happen in
the market. And so you're going to see,
Mr. Speaker, a decided effort over the
next 5 years to make sure our markets
are all rehabilitated or reconstructed.
We're also looking specifically at green
spaces or public spaces where people can
exercise, where children can play, where
there can be a safe communion of persons
in their various neighborhoods. I just
walked East Velt.
East Rumvelt is on the list to be fixed.
Where my learned friend is from K
Griffith.
>> I just walked
>> I just walked north from Velt where we
saw spaces. I now have a new bucket list
item. I don't even know if it's legal,
but it's to swim in the blackout.
And I, you know, Mr. Speaker, it's
interesting. You go into those
communities and you're walking on
concreted roads and you're watching
beautiful homes and you're watching
people coming home from work
>> and you're watching neighborhoods
thrive. And we know that we can work
with these neighborhoods to make sure
they're better than they currently are.
And so you're going to see from us in
excess of 20 new recreational spaces,
the Ministry of Housing is doing 14
more. And so across the country, Mr.
Speaker, you are going to see
>> this fellow is so pessimistic.
>> Very pessimistic big man.
Mr. Speaker, we are beautifying public
spaces. Also, the first lady's office
has done some amazing work on public
spaces that allow all of us to enjoy it,
including the honorable member. We see
what the seaw wall looks like. We see
what 63 beach is going to look like. The
diamond community now has a beautified
space done by the first lady.
>> Mr. Speaker, I don't the member must
have missed when I said we're coming to
do the McKenzie market. He missed that
or he was bellowing too loudly. Uh this
this narrative so I want to address this
narrative what we are currently doing.
So let me clarify that perhaps I wasn't
articulate enough. We are asking NDC's.
We are asking NDC's. You're one of the
payto-play people. The dispensed of
Annet Ferguson, a hard worker. We don't
know you. The people don't know you.
They know Annet Ferguson. What are you
doing in her seat? No, I know about you.
I know about you. And it's not good
things. It's not good things. Mr.
Speaker, Mr. Speaker,
Mr. Speaker,
the narrative, the narrative I heard
from two honorable members of this house
and I think it's a sexy narrative. It
probably sells in your community, but
it's going to be dismantled that nothing
happens in region 10. I heard that from
the honorable Chararma Solomon. I heard
it from my honorable friend Dr. Ryan uh
behind Mr. Har. I can't see his last
name. I heard it.
>> Region 10, Lynden. He said they need
trained teachers. Lynen has 120%
trained teachers. But but I am
acknowledging here that the Riverin
communities don't have trained teachers
because the teachers do not want to go.
Part of the reason is because they don't
have housing. So we have to fix that. We
have to get housing there so that the
teachers can go in. But to say that
region 10 doesn't have trained teachers,
>> do you need a vomit bag?
>> Mr. Speaker, to say that we aren't
interested in education. Four new
secondary schools are going up in region
10. One at the cost of 2.6 billion
dollar.
>> One at the cost of 2.6. Thank you, sir.
One at a cost of $2.6 billion, one at
Hyroni, one at Heruru. Mr. Speaker, I
want to because I have five minutes of
handed over,
>> Mr. Speaker.
>> We are going to be spending
>> in this year 11.7 billion dollar on our
pathway workers. And I think you would
be happy to know that third 78% of the
pathway workers are women are women.
Employment given to our women. 13,883
of them were employed in 2025. 3,882
men. And on our community enhancement
working program, 1,50
women were employed and 1,614
men were employed. in this year will be
spending $1.9 million. But I want to
turn my attention quickly, Mr. Speaker,
to region 9 because two persons, the
gentleman who came before me, gentleman
is using the word very loosely. He needs
to apologize to this nation for what we
know he did. Um, and Mr. Speaker, and
the honorable Mr. uh Dion L Cruz, whose
presentation I enjoyed was very
spirited, and you could see that he has
a heart for service. He's with the wrong
people, but he'll get that over soon.
He'll be over here shortly. Mr. Speaker,
region 9,
region 9 is one of the most beautiful
places in this in this country. In this
country, region 9 is one of the most
beautiful places, sir.
>> And he said nothing was happening in
region 9 and was being neglected and so
on. Mr. Speaker, between 2020 to 2024,
we spent
close to $10 billion
on healthc care in region 9.10 $10
billion. Let me let me read some of
those stats. Mr. Speaker, new
facilities, level one facilities were
built at Coxai, Carabai Crew, Quo and
Marymore. You know where Coxai is? To
get to Coxai, you actually have to go
almost vertical. If you look over on one
side, you can't see the bottom. If you
fall off, look, Mahipal's puzzled. He
doesn't know where Coxai is. David Hines
has no clue where that is. It's in
region 9, sir. It's in region 9. You got
to go and visit people. New facilities.
Level two upgraded ate web corona
ribb and a whole set more. Level three
anai carasy sand creek. Total patients
seen in the region, Mr. Speaker, 62,000.
The region 9 health story is a success
story. Our people used to have to go to
Brazil for service. People from Brazil
are now coming over to us FOR SERVICE.
THAT IS A story we should all be
cheering on. Where is your national
pride?
>> Where is your national pride? Mr.
Speaker, Mr. Speaker, when the PPPC took
office was voted into office in 1992, we
had one single secondary school in
region 9 at St. Ignatius. Between 92 and
2015 without a drop of oil, we built
three more. Right now, we have built or
are building nine secondary schools in
region 9. 949.
Nappy, which will be called the George
Tanko. Napi Secondary School. You're
talking about culture. Go read up about
George Tanko, Mirara. Now, Karen now,
Masara, Tapachinga, Karasabi, Shulinab,
Koka, and Upicari. Now, is it true that
they are taking longer than we want? Of
course, we would tell you that. But what
happens sir? We go to public bid. We
advertise on a website and we say here
ye here. Anybody in the world who is
interested in this in building this
thing at a competitive price put in your
bid. And the MPTAB has no choice. They
have to give the least expensive most
responsive person. Now when they are
delinquent we must throw them off the
work.
>> We must terminate them. And we are
prepared to do that. But what you see,
what you see in the steel and concrete,
albeit delayed, what you see is a desire
by the People's Progressive Party,
Civic, to make sure the overcrowding at
St. Ignatius stops. That's what you see.
How many did the APNU build when they
were in office for 5 years? The APNU of
AFC failed to start and finish even a
single secondary school anywhere in this
country. Test me on that. Test me on
that. Anywhere in the country. So, Mr.
Speaker,
what we know we have teachers in
Masanari. Look at them. They don't know
where Masanari is. They they have no
clue. And these are clueless. He's
sleeping.
>> Mas canary is the last village at the
bottom of the map. It's also referred to
as guns. We just graduated seven
teachers from the CPC, our only training
college in this country. We have we
have, Mr. Speaker, training sites all
over region 9. So much so that we have
95 98% of our teachers in region 9
trained or in training. Mr. Speaker,
>> I will say this.
>> I will say this in conclusion
to the people of Guyana,
you have chosen well. You have chosen
well in the PPPC
and Dr. Falei as your president. This is
a party that will dep that will
deliver on our manifesto,
>> our manifesto.
>> Mr. Speaker,
>> we will deliver on our promises. And it
is only our promises we can deliver on,
not their promises. Because their
promises were fanciful and would
bankrupt this country. If they want
their promises delivered, they'd have to
be able to convince the people of Guyana
to come here. And they can't do that
because they can't win the confidence of
the people of Guyana. We promise you and
we commit to you that we are your
servants. We will work hard every day to
deliver and where we falter we are
willing to correct ourselves and serve
the people of this country whether they
be Hindu Muslim Christian non-religious
raster whether they be Afrogion Indoynes
Amarindian Gy or any other ethnicity
whether they're from Portuguese whether
they're from the coast or the
hintterland or the river rain whether
whether they're male or female or
doesn't identify as either. Whatever you
are, wherever you are, however you
voted, we are your servants and the PPPC
is your government. I thank you, sir.
>> Thank you, Minister. on that 20th budget
presentation. Also,
honorable members um from QC we also had
uh Zara Lock Zara.
Honorable members, we will return at
6:30 promptly. Sir,
>> we now take the suspension.
Heat. Heat.
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