WHEN the Recession Will Come | Odds & DATE.
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hey everyone we kevin here in this video
we're going to talk about when a
recession is expected the odds of a
recession and how to prepare but first
i'm going to give you a little bit of
extra background information this
morning we got some information that
potentially the trucking industry is
already in recession now this isn't all
a bad news we'll talk about what that
potentially means but here's the
information according to transactions
between united states truckers and their
customers there's been a quote
unexpectedly sharp downturn in demand
from everything from food to furniture
and transportation is slowing and has
been slowing for truckers since the
start of march now this does coincide
with at the same time energy costs
started soaring for transportation gas
diesel oil all these energy costs became
a lot more expensive and if you take a
look at the chart right here
you can see that you have this very
sharp decline really begin right here
where that yellow is which if we line
that up with the date that's really the
beginning of march here which is
obviously right after that starting
point of the war right here on february
24th so entirely possible that you've
got a correlation
here between this decline in trucking
but the decline in trucking can
sometimes be a sort of a leading
indicator of uh basically well if
companies are shipping less than that
probably means people are spending less
money right now how reliable is this
potential indicator well about 50
kind of a coin flip so not the greatest
now we're going to talk about timing for
a potential recession with separate data
here but i want to get this trucking
info out of the way that since 1972
recessions have followed
6 out of 12 trucking recessions so that
means a real recession in the entire
economy has followed
6 out of 12 of the trucking recession so
it could be by some seen as an indicator
of sort of a canary in the coal mine
like oh no we've got issues here it is
worth noting that americans spend about
35
on goods right now and about 65
on uh services we might see a little bit
of a rotation in that where we see goods
spending maybe go down to like 30 and
services go up to 70
expectation is about 32.68 to be a
little bit more precise uh but really uh
if if trucking prices fall it could
ironically actually be a a good thing in
the short term because it could finally
take some pressure off of margins for
businesses who have to pay for trucking
like wholesale businesses or target that
has to truck in supplies for people to
buy right if trucking prices come down
because trucking demand goes down
yeah on one hand it's like oh no are
people buying a whole lot less but on
the other hand finally trucking prices
are going down again margin pressure
goes away from businesses who are trying
to pass on all the cost increases to the
consumers
and maybe you could be in this kind of
weird world where wait a minute if we
stop seeing price hikes we actually stop
seeing inflation right because remember
inflation is a year over year measure in
order for you to keep having inflation
prices have to keep going up but if we
slow price increases that can actually
help dampen inflation we're seeing that
same sort of thing happen in the gpu
market the graphics uh chips market
right we used to be sitting around
a 77 percent markup for let's say nvidia
graphic cards now they're at about a 41
markup so it's still a substantial
markup but
this is a sign that we're starting to
see some of those pricing pressures
relax which is actually kind of
good news uh and before we get into the
odds of a recession i want to talk about
coca-cola and we've got a quick word
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about the odds and timing of recession
but look at coca-cola here okay i
thought this was really fascinating
because this is kind of what we're
actually trying to prevent is this sort
of price action look at this here
so
coca-cola talked about increasing prices
more but what i thought was really
incredible was this line over here we're
going to basically overly lean towards
increasing prices before a potential
recession quote as i said earlier not
seeing the cost go through and arriving
at a recession being behind the curve is
less desirable than embarking on price
increases and having to take a hit from
greater elasticity in other words people
spending a little bit less on coca-cola
and powder aid or whatever products
while they have higher prices in the
short term because of recession so in
other words coca-cola is actually
telling us hey um we're going to
aggressively keep raising prices because
as our costs go up we are going to pass
those along and we don't want to be
caught with our pants down so to speak
in a recession where not only do we not
have higher prices but now we can't
raise prices so there was a lot of talk
about making sure that whatever extra
costs they have they push to the
consumers see they even say here quote
you definitely this is a yellow you
definitely don't want to get to a point
where there's been a substantial cost
push which would mean like higher high
fructose corn syrup prices higher
trucking prices right
that has not yet been priced into the
market so in other words
coke is like hey we're still raising
prices because our costs are going up
but this is why it's actually a good
thing in my opinion that we're starting
to see those trucking costs come down
because that means less cost pressures
on companies like coke and then they
don't have to feel so aggressive at
those price increases but we're still in
this weird teeter-totter zone where it's
like ah kevin this feels a little bit
like a little bit of good a little bit
of bad and yeah it is because it's kind
of like okay cool trucking prices are
going down but if that means people are
spending less
that's a problem because people spending
less could put us into a recession
unless of course that spending is just
moving over to services that would be
best case scenario
good spending goes down inflation for
goods goes down the spending stays over
in services and we don't actually go
into recession because the services keep
us through so now we got to talk about
timing and the odds of a recession but
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talk about when we actually think that a
recession could come and kind of look at
this graphically so i'll pull this up in
a moment but first
bloomberg intelligence just released
this information bloomberg intelligence
believes that according to their model
we have about a one percent chance of a
recession within the next 12 months
that's because the fundamentals of our
economy they say are still incredibly
strong however
bloomberg intelligence believes that the
peak recession chance will actually be
44
and that 44 peak recession chance occurs
before january 2024 so likely in 2023 is
when we could potentially face a
recession and that's because the federal
reserve's interest rates the discount
rate is expected to be at its highest
level in 2023 and peak out before
falling again
now we've got deutsche bank calling for
a recession in q4 2022 and in uh
potentially q1 2023 remember we need two
quarters of a negative growth to
actually hit a recession and uh deutsche
bank is calling for that in q422 q1 2023
but take a look at bloomberg's chart
they really pushed this into later in
2023 now who knows who's going to be
right right but take a look at that
recession probability rising sharply
going late into 2023
uh and uh really peaking out there in
january of 2024 so sometime between
there very very interesting so
absolutely incredible uh we'll see now
how do you prepare for a recession okay
so let's just do a quick look at that so
what i like to do is number one i like
to become a tracker look for the fed's
u-turn if we start hitting that
recessionary territory fed's going to
u-turn really quickly and the markets
right now are pricing in the fact that
the fed may make a policy mistake and
that companies are raising their prices
too slowly uh and and if companies raise
prices really quickly and aggressively
at the same time as rates are going up
then we could see boom a recession so
what do you want to monitor here well
you want to monitor economic data that's
leading not necessarily lagging data
right the best way to find leading data
number one inflation expectations
the higher inflation expectations go the
more likely the fed ends up making a
mistake by
tightening too much there are two types
of inflation expectations consumer
sentiment
expectations of inflation which you can
find via the university of michigan
survey of consumers or market
expectations of inflation measured by
the five-year break-even treasury rate
when the chart goes down it's a good
thing of the five-year break even here
is the latest uh five-year break-even a
chart right here and you can see that
we're trending down i like that uh we're
recently trending down after the hawkish
comments from the federal reserve so
that's a good thing uh then earnings
calls you're now able to take ceo and
executive c suite level or c-level
executives inputs into the state of the
market looking forward and not just
looking backwards people like to say oh
earnings are looking backwards wrong you
were actually getting the ceo and
executive opinions at that moment in
time okay then personally
as you become a tracker of the market to
prepare to be in this market or to
potentially buy during the depths of a
recession whether it's real estate or
stocks you got to make sure you get out
of debt eliminate your margin get your
income up but also make sure that your
income is insulated it's one thing if
your income goes up but it's another
thing if you get laid off then it made
you no difference that your income went
up right so you want to have insulated
income you want higher income you want
to get out of margin and debt we're
already seeing people pair margin down
down 14 since october if the market's
cutting down margin and deleveraging the
sign right
prepare to go shopping for real estate
how do you prepare to shop for real
estate stop taking out consumer debt pay
off credit cards student loan debt and
cars all of these things are going to
burn you when it comes time to try to
buy real estate every dollar of debt you
have means you have to have about two
dollars and 34 cents of income to
qualify for it potentially more as rates
continue to rise and then of course when
it comes to stocks by paying in quality
sectors etfs or companies the safest
method in my opinion is when there's big
pain in the stock market buy things like
a basket that's mixed with the qqq spy
maybe the russell 2000 this is not
financial advice i generally don't
recommend stock picking some people like
to pick stocks i like to pick stock but
that doesn't mean you should like to
pick stocks but i would say if your net
worth is under 500 000 you should most
importantly prepare to buy real estate
who knows maybe the end of this year
through 2023 could be a great
opportunity to finally get into the real
estate market thanks so much for
watching we'll see you next one bye
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