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all existing course members in the

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trumponomics course oh boy is deep seek

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a scam could it be that deep seek AI

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gets osed as a scam and what is that

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going to mean potentially for a reversal

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of all of the woses that artificial

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intelligence stocks got hit with

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specifically the chip making uh and

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designing companies over the last couple

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days we'll talk about that we'll also

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talk about asml earnings do they tell us

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anything about the future of artificial

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intelligence capex a little bit with

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Nvidia and expectations for the next 5

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years on capex as well then we've got to

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talk about the Federal Reserve what to

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expect today what Donald Trump just did

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and of course a little bit of an

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earnings preview with what to look for

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from Tesla meta and Microsoft on today's

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meet Kevin report news that makes you

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money so today we're actually going to

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start with the joke of the day which

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is a nonprofit brought us a $20 a month

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app called artificial

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intelligence and a hedge fund brought us

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an open source version of the same

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thing anyway I think that's actually

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kind of ironic so I had to bring it up

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and include that as our joke of the day

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isn't it a little weird that a hedge

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fund in China brought us a free

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open-source platform for artificial

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intelligence while this is leading some

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like Bill Amman to say ah something sus

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here how about if you're a hedge fund

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you set up a bunch of shorts on Nvidia

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and then you say you've trained a a

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model equivalent to an open AI which has

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spent hundreds of millions of dollars on

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training for a fraction of the cost in

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fact potentially as much as 20 to 40

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times more efficient now while I respect

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Bill amman's Jade I also know he was

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complaining all day long on the day

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Nvidia was down and I don't think that's

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because he has Nvidia exposure I think

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it's because he has a lot of Google

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exposure and Google's been spending a

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lot of money uh on on artificial

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intelligence infrastructure I'm not

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exactly sure what kind of short-term

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bets he's got going on or what's going

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on but usually associate any of his

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emotion with his trading uh kind of like

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what we saw during the co pandemic and

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also the 5% treasury disaster this is

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straight Market manipulation but I guess

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it's legal for hedge funds to do it

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including Phil acman uh but anyway uh

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yeah look I mean is it possible that

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deep seek is a scam of course in fact on

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the first day that we were covering deep

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seek uh which was well we covered it

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Friday we covered it this weekend we

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covered it Monday after the shock

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covered it every single day we've been

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saying all that's really going to take

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for AI and artificial intelligence

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stocks to really rebound is somebody

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coming out going look this is a scam I

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thought it was going to be Elon but

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there were a lot of other people and

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elon's been relatively quiet on it which

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kind of leads me to think it's not a

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scam since he's usually the first to say

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it's a scam but anyway we talked about

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that yesterday what's more important uh

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is that doesn't matter if the $5 million

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5.6 million to spend for training for

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deep seek was a scam the answer here in

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my opinion is no because

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the inference side is going to be what

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ends up in my opinion using more compute

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and frankly on the inference side deep

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seek is actually substantially more

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efficient in the way it handles

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artificial intelligence data and the

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models by basically parsing segments of

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the model and only using the part of the

3:48

model that's relevant to your query this

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leads to running a significantly more

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efficient model and it really doesn't

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matter and as I've been saying since day

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one it doesn't really matter if deep

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seek ends up uh you know having lied to

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us about what kind of chips they're

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using I don't really care how they

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trained it or what they spent they've

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created a substantially more efficient

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way of providing artificial intelligence

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data now don't get me wrong I don't

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actually think that stocks are all going

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to plummet and continue to plummet

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related to deep seek such as Nvidia or

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the chipmakers asml had a fantastic

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morning talk about those earnings in

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just a moment uh and I've been saying

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that for a few days mostly because it's

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going to take significant time time for

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CEOs to wake up to oh we could do this a

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lot more efficiently either the way take

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a look on screen here this is directly

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from my Alpha report which will be

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price goes up a lot look at this trades

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today pay close attention to that

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rectangle of Nvidia 12559 12250 very

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important that rectangle is where Nvidia

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usually gets stuck and you generally get

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a big bounce or a big rejection off of

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it what was my prediction look at it

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here deep seek bounce expect a bounce

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today why it will take weeks to months

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for capex Investments fall to fall which

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I expect they will consider how the

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process will play out now you could read

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this right here but the point is this is

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market is open I also pitched that Apple

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was probably going to be a big

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beneficiary before it started moving up

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I pitched it when Apple was red on the

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Deep seek morning and it turned

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substantially green afterwards over the

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for two days oh we don't actually need

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as many orders okay let's pull back some

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of those orders and then tsm's got to

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wake up and then asml all of that that

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entire process I expect to take 3 to six

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months maybe even a year long this is

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why yesterday I talked about sort of the

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parasite having been planted that's

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slowly growing and slowly eating around

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eating up that future artificial

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intelligence demand uh for chips from

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the inside out and keep this in mind I I

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I don't know that all of us might have a

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scale of just how much this artificial

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intelligence uh spend matters but

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somebody left a comment yesterday and

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they said Kavin you know Nvidia still

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creates gpus for gamers like does that

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not matter any more uh the answer to

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that is not so much I mean yes it

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matters somewhat but not so much it

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matters maybe about 10% why well just

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look at nvidia's expected spend over the

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next 5 years that is spend on Nvidia

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products over the next 5 years compared

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to what Nvidia did in the last years uh

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you know before the AI movement so

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before the AI movement so really before

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2023 Nvidia brought in just about $83

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billion well in the 5 years ending 2029

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Nvidia is expected to bring in$

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1.06 trillion so a little more than 11x

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because of data center spend so you can

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see this is a stock that's heavily

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propped up on data center spend anything

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that makes data centers spend plummet

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even 10% is actually going to absorb or

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basically zero out everything you're

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doing with gaming style chips all you

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need is a 10% cut in data center spend

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over the next 5 years boom all the

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gaming stuff is out the window it's

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almost like you don't even have that

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side of the business that's only a 10%

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decline that's wild now the financial

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times is claiming that open aai did find

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evidence that Chinese artificial

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intelligence startup deep seek did end

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end up using uh the US company's

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proprietary models to train its own open

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source competitor that's a quote from

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the financial times Microsoft is

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investigating this as well some argue

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that either the open aai uh API was used

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to just milk all the data open AI has or

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that a process of distillation was used

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where basically a smaller cheaper model

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uses the outputs of the larger more

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expensive model to help it reinforce

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learn or to teach itself how it should

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be

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responding maybe could it be fine again

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I stick to my guns that ultimately when

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you have a more efficient inference

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Model A lot of people are going to adopt

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that a lot of companies are going to

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adopt that and frankly it's a good thing

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it's a good thing for everyone less

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spending is a good thing ultimately

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because it means we could spend more

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money on things that are actually going

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to be Innovative rather than throwing

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good money after things that just aren't

8:58

necessary anymore like so many data

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centers if we need let me let me

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simplify that let's say our society for

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the best like the best rewards for

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society in America or even the world are

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100 data centers and right now we're on

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the trajectory towards building a

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thousand data centers we really have an

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excess supply of 900 data centers and

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I'm making those numbers up right do

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those extra 900 really benefit Society

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no so get rid of them right that's

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wasted money that could be used towards

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other Innovative things like urine

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cancer and I don't know that today's

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llms will actually be able to do that I

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still think we're in the chatbot agent

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bot phase and it's it's just not that

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great but we'll see asml bookings did

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surge though in part well actually

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heavily in part because of artificial

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intelligence uh their margins are 51.7%

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on gross margin for their artificial

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intelligence chip making machines

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basically they're like the machine that

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makes the machine that was over the

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49.6% expected really really good net

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incomes up 30% they sold 132 lithography

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units versus 121 expected just

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remember oh those are Q4 numbers right

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so n none of this is really expected to

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even be post deep seek yet they do argue

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that deep seek is good because it means

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lower costs will bring lower

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applications so worth noting another

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company here saying oh this looks good

10:22

Andre and Horwitz says Hey the Steep

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seek thing is the Sputnik moment you've

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got um a Microsoft s Nadel you've got

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some Sam Alman a lot of people Nvidia

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applauding the efficiencies found in

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deep seek so even though you've got this

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sort of like thing going on the

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background where you've got the crypto

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are David Sachs of the White House now

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uh saying oh yeah um we are uh seeing uh

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you know there's substantial evidence

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that deep seek probably just stole our

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data doesn't matter the product itself

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is still more efficient we can learn

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from it and use it so we'll see what

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happens but that's the latest on deep

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seek now today

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we do have a Federal Reserve meeting so

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keep this in mind Nick T sees that

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December core PC Rose just .8% or 2.2%

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annualized 12mth rate at 2.8% 6 month

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and 3 month at just 2.3 now that's good

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but here's what we need in my opinion

11:16

going forward and I think this is

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actually pretty

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important what we need from Powell is a

11:22

progress on disinflation we just want to

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hear him talk about that hey things are

11:25

looking good we want comments that

11:27

tariffs so far have been slower moving

11:28

than expected which is really important

11:30

because as of December 18th the Federal

11:32

Reserve is starting to pre- pric in

11:33

Trump tariffs which is not great so we

11:36

want to see we want to see a relaxation

11:38

here of this tariff talk uh we do not

11:40

want a suggestion of a rate increase

11:42

that would be very bad we want a

11:44

reiteration that the economy is doing

11:45

great jobs are strong no rate cuts are

11:48

needed the layoffs from the federal res

11:50

you know federal government aren't going

11:52

to be really bad and everything is fine

11:55

now why do I say that well because

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remember and and we'll talk about this

11:58

in a moment but Donald Trump offered

12:00

basically leave to a bunch of federal

12:02

workers I'll go into the details in just

12:03

a moment on this but think about the

12:05

combination that we're setting up here

12:07

there's less pricing power at companies

12:09

trade tariffs which both of these are

12:12

anti-growth right at least initially uh

12:14

Germany China and UK are are close to a

12:17

recession uh then you've got government

12:19

firings layoffs and quits all which have

12:22

actually been supportive of jobs over

12:25

the last few months especially with the

12:26

election and then you've got lower AI

12:28

cap in my opinion coming soon I kind of

12:30

think you're burning the candle of

12:32

what's left of a good economy at all

12:34

ends you're like you're literally

12:36

crushing all sides and shrinking the

12:38

economy I don't know how we're still

12:40

going to have a positive GDP if all this

12:42

stuff continues but oh well uh so Powell

12:46

though he's going to tell us about how

12:47

everything's fine and GDP is doing great

12:49

and and growth everything's doing you

12:51

know superb uh and so therefore while we

12:53

don't need rate hikes nothing is off the

12:55

table uh and uh we'll just take it

12:57

meeting by meeting for rate Cuts I

12:59

really think Jerome Powell doesn't have

13:00

to F this meeting up just take it easy

13:03

don't make any crazy scary announcements

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and just move on now when it comes to a

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Tesla earnings preview look usually

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Tesla earnings predictions revolve

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around the deliveries which we obviously

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already have uh and then subsequently

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vehicle grows margins that's usually

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what Tesla matters about but that's not

13:18

really the case for Tesla right now

13:20

Tesla has not been moving off of car

13:22

sales though it may be slightly moving

13:24

off of hope that there could be a lower

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cost vehicle you know announced I'm

13:29

going to hold my breath on a lower cost

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vehicle I think a lower cost model

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that's been sort of teased in the

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earnings presentations really just

13:35

refers to lower cost cyber trucks and

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model y like technically the refresh

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model Y is considered a a new model

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15:13

okay uh full self-driving uh updates are

15:17

really going to be what matter here as

15:19

well as humanoid robotic updates uh this

15:22

is not just my opinion Bloomberg

15:24

intelligence agrees with this the stock

15:26

Tesla stock hasn't been moving because

15:28

the car sales grow you know the EV tax

15:30

credits are likely to affect and slow

15:32

down car sales but the stock hasn't

15:34

really moved down because of concerns

15:36

over that it's been moving up because of

15:38

excitement over self-driving cars and

15:41

this is actually why and no surprise but

15:43

Elon Musk and Tesla AI have been

15:45

tweeting about how um Teslas are now

15:48

driving themselves to the port to end up

15:51

getting shipped uh and uh they're doing

15:54

this on purpose on earnings day because

15:58

well Frank

15:59

this is what's driving the stock right

16:01

now so it's kind of smart but it also

16:03

shows progress so it's it's like shrewd

16:06

but it's also uh you know kind of

16:09

exciting I do think it's interesting

16:11

that they are 3x speeding this because I

16:13

feel like this should be normal

16:14

speed so they're going really really

16:17

slow but that's okay you know it's it's

16:20

self-driving it's awesome I'm a big fan

16:22

of it and I'm very excited about it uh

16:24

but anyway so uh look the other thing

16:28

that we're going to to see are probably

16:30

incredible margins on energy uh and

16:32

substantial energy deployment growth

16:33

we've already seen the deployment growth

16:35

and it keeps growing uh it's going to

16:37

keep growing to 25 to 50% of Tesla's

16:39

future earnings until we get Cyber cabs

16:41

and Robo taxis and well same thing and

16:44

then humanoid robotics uh but right now

16:47

it represents about 20% of Tesla's

16:48

operating income today it's already

16:50

producing over $300 million a quarter

16:52

you know batteries batteries batteries

16:54

batteries Mega packs and home batteries

16:55

they're great and Tesla has pricing

16:57

power for batteries like do people

17:00

really want a solar system that's Tesla

17:02

or a solar panel that's puzzled together

17:04

with Q cells from Germany and N phase

17:07

chips I mean as much as I love n phase I

17:09

have to say Tesla has more pricing power

17:11

than n phase when it comes to what a 25

17:15

to 55y old dudes want that doesn't mean

17:18

end phase is bad I actually think it's a

17:19

fantastic investment at a very very low

17:21

cost but uh and and over time as rates

17:24

come down it'll be a lot more desirable

17:26

but that's really a topic for a

17:27

different video uh but I do think we're

17:29

going to get some updates on energy

17:31

we'll get more FSD progress I really

17:33

think there's a 90% chance that Elon

17:35

Musk really yaps up FSD progress and how

17:38

great things are going I also expect

17:41

optimism about Optimus how it's already

17:44

doing amazing things and uh that there

17:46

are mass production goals later this

17:48

year maybe even he'll say Hey you know

17:50

we're going to be spending a lot of cash

17:51

on capex uh for robots so maybe we'll

17:54

have to raise money or whatever I don't

17:56

he could do a warning like that maybe

17:58

maybe not but I would say some kind of

18:00

suggestion that there'll be increased

18:02

capex for Optimus is like 70% likely but

18:05

that'll actually be cheered because

18:07

people want more Optimus development I I

18:10

think there's only a 30% chance we get

18:12

some kind of excitement over an actual

18:13

new model if there is a new model it

18:16

could do very well for the stock just

18:17

because it's not really fully priced in

18:20

and it could be true that other EV

18:23

manufacturers are just going to go away

18:25

because of the removal of the EV tax

18:27

credit which would mean that elon's

18:28

right about the EV tax credit ironically

18:30

getting removed and helping Tesla

18:32

because you've got companies like

18:34

stellantis that are like yeah we're

18:35

going to scale back our EV plans and

18:37

make more new industrial um uh internal

18:40

combustion engine Vehicles ice vehicles

18:43

I was like okay wow you yall really

18:45

going backwards okay anyway Tesla

18:48

earnings expectations

18:50

75.4 cents of adjusted EPS 27.2 billion

18:53

of expected Revenue net income 2.66

18:56

billion expected looking at 8.49 %

18:59

expected volatility in average selling

19:00

price of about

19:02

4,962 want margins to be at least

19:06

18.5% and we'll probably get some

19:08

updates on Cyber Truck Sales slowing

19:09

down a little bit but I think Elon will

19:12

sort of wash that and clean that by

19:14

arguing oh uh uh we use those in the

19:17

Palisades fire so yeah yeah no no sales

19:21

haven't slowed down okay uh anyway uh

19:24

meta reports earnings today along with

19:26

Microsoft the most important things to

19:27

look for here aren't necessarily whether

19:29

they beat or Miss honestly everybody is

19:32

going to look for the bullish commentary

19:34

about how these companies are both going

19:36

to be able to have higher profit margins

19:38

with the efficiencies discovered by Deep

19:40

seek that they can Implement I almost

19:42

certainly expect that they're going to

19:43

say that and then I Would Be watchful

19:45

for what they say on capex I actually

19:48

think they'll probably say something

19:49

like we're looking into how we can

19:51

become more efficient but uh our capex

19:53

plans remain unchanged at the moment uh

19:56

so some kind of like brush off like that

19:58

it's only been two days it's way too

20:00

soon to really make any kind of planning

20:01

but remember these are super high margin

20:03

soft businesses especially Microsoft so

20:05

lower AI costs actually help them boost

20:07

their margins even more and and they

20:09

they both have massive staying power

20:10

right now big PP uh as far as some Trump

20:13

updates Donald Trump did offer

20:15

incentives to 2.3 million federal

20:18

workers the civilian side with the

20:20

exception of the USPS and and certain uh

20:23

critical segments I think it was

20:25

immigration National Security related

20:27

and USPS so post office uh but anyway uh

20:31

you can basically stay in your job until

20:32

September 30th 2025 work from home is

20:35

acceptable uh it's it's sort of a

20:38

backward door to firing people because

20:41

the federal government actually has a

20:42

lot of protections for federal

20:44

government workers who are not on

20:45

probation it's actually why the Trump

20:47

Administration has already asked

20:48

administrators to let people like let

20:51

the Trump Administration know a list of

20:53

workers that are on probation because

20:54

they're probably all going to get fired

20:56

but you have the rights to re statement

20:59

the right to file an appeal the right to

21:01

file a complaint uh you have to get 30

21:03

days notice you have to be given a

21:05

detailed description of your alleged

21:07

misconduct uh you have to have the right

21:09

to respond to the evidence against you

21:11

like it's actually really hard to fire a

21:13

federal worker and that's why they're

21:14

doing it this way to make it easier to

21:16

fire someone it's like hey please just

21:18

reply to the email saying I resign

21:21

that's literally what they're asking

21:22

people to do uh and then we'll just keep

21:24

paying you until September 30th but any

21:26

if you say that anytime between now and

21:27

then we can just fire you basically

21:29

they're turning you into an at will

21:31

employee but hey you could get 9 month

21:34

well 6 months worth of pay and get

21:36

another job at the same time like you

21:39

could literally keep getting paid and

21:41

get another job at the same time the

21:42

problem is the people who do that early

21:45

will benefit the most everybody who

21:47

Waits until the end when you know the

21:49

unemployment rate starts skyrocketing

21:50

because of stuff like this and

21:51

everybody's competing for jobs in the

21:53

open market well that's going to create

21:55

a little poopy doopy around uh the

21:57

latter part of the year so I think if

21:58

you're going to do this or you think

22:00

your job is at risk of the federal

22:01

government the sooner you do it the

22:03

probably the better because you'll

22:04

you'll have a better chance of getting a

22:06

job quickly before it becomes hard to

22:08

find another job that's that's my take

22:11

here so I I think that's somewhat

22:13

important uh we also have a federal

22:15

district court judge that froze Donald

22:17

Trump's Grant frees and Loan frees okay

22:20

fine that'll get reviewed between now

22:21

and February 3rd but uh that's it so

22:24

we're going to be covering the FED today

22:25

we'll cover earnings today so make sure

22:27

you're here at the channel subscribe to

22:28

to the channel we'll cover those later

22:30

look forward to seeing you so we'll keep

22:31

today a little bit shorter here in the

22:32

morning uh and we'll see you soon folks

22:34

thank you so much for being here I love

22:35

you all appreciate your support uh and

22:38

uh go check out that U uh course over at

22:41

me kevin.com thanks so much can not

22:43

advertise these things that you told us

22:44

here I feel like nobody else knows about

22:46

this we'll we'll try a little

22:47

advertising and see how it Go

22:48

congratulations man you have done so

22:50

much people love you people look up to

22:52

you Kevin pafra there financial analyst

22:54

and YouTuber meet Kevin always great to

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