Joe Rogan’s Epstein Meltdown Is Hard to Watch

That's a very specific illicit desire

>> to want underage people.

>> Well, I

>> a very How do you even find out that

someone's into that?

>> Well, I don't think that the majority or

anything close to it of of the women

were technically I mean, I think it was

largely very young um you know, barely

legal so to speak, but

>> there was some nineyear-olds in there.

>> Yeah, there's even younger.

>> Hold on.

>> I'll go to chat after this. Hey, she was

14. Guys, can you get the right

>> Oh, no. This is just one,

>> dude. There's just one so many.

>> Yeah, dude. Come on. She was 14.

>> What is your tank today? What the is

going on? Woody Allen. Now you're

defending.

>> Woody Allen's a very different story.

Woody Allen totally different.

>> It's weird. You're dating your stepdad.

>> It's still It's still legal.

>> You can very easily see someone getting

involved in that just because girls

juice deals. and Jeffrey Epstein, you

know, for the past three years of their

lives has been the best weekend they've

ever had, has uh, you know, is made them

feel alive again. It's because it's

juiced by the girls, the parties, the

lifestyle that Epstein allows you to

have access to.

>> But in the public eye, the narrative is

underage girls.

>> So, if we found out that somebody we

knew was,

>> let's

be careful. What? Okay. I didn't know

where you were going, I guess. I didn't.

No, I'm about to leave, dude. I I can't

be part of this.

>> When Brendan Schwab is offering the most

sensible takes in the room, then you

know something's wrong. Ever since the

latest Epstein files dropped last week,

the usual suspects are playing D for the

worst people. And it's no secret that

Joe Rogan is compromised. He's been

running cover for the elites for a

couple of years now. Once Rogan's wealth

and influence got their attention, he

decided that having calls with the

president and dinners with billionaires

was worth more to him than being honest

with his own audience. Joe sold out for

access. He just wanted a seat at the

table. And for us, that means we have to

listen to him sit in his studio and say

things like underage people and in the

public eye, the narrative is underage

girls. And he does it all with a

straight face. But it's not just Rogan

that sold out. We all saw what happened

last year when some of the biggest

comedians in the world bent the knee to

the Saudi government and became

mouthpieces for the regime. And if that

wasn't bad enough, then we had to listen

to them come back to America lecturing

us about how morally bankrupt and racist

we are for criticizing them for cozying

up to a regime who maintains power by

suppressing its own people and their

free speech. Bill Burr still hasn't

recovered from the backlash. And I

honestly don't think he ever will. And

when you stop and take a step back to

take it all in, you realize how far

we've come from the days when comedians

and podcasters were an alternative to

the mainstream media. They were the ones

who we trusted to speak their minds and

say what everyone was thinking without

the network breathing down their necks

and censoring them. Fast forward to 2026

and Brendan Sch seems to be the only one

making any sense.

How why are so many people in Hollywood

and in powerful positions so into kit?

What's the wrong with them? That's what

I don't understand.

>> I have no idea. Is it is it up?

>> Do you know any like thinking people you

know? Do you know anyone who's like dude

I don't know what it is these kids?

>> I like to in your entire life have you

ever met someone who's into kids?

>> But I'd like to I'd like to believe it's

very rare still. Like I'd like to

believe

>> I don't think so at that elite level.

There's too much. Look at all this.

>> That's right. Things have gotten so bad

now that the guy with CTE and a face

full of Zins is the only one asking the

right questions. I mean, Joe Rogan used

to have a show literally called Joe

Rogan Questions Everything, which only

lasted six episodes. Now, more than 10

years later, we have the infamous line

from the Cash Patel podcast, "What am I

going to do? Push back?" It's not just

that, though. He also uses the excuse,

"I'm just asking questions." That way,

the internet can make up their own mind.

But he's not even doing that anymore.

Joe barely even scratches the surface.

Seriously, check out this pathetic

attempt from Rogan to discuss the

Epstein Files. This is the number one

podcaster in the world who gets paid

hundreds of millions of dollars every

single year to interview interesting and

informed guests. And his hot take on

Epstein is, yeah, it's kind of crazy.

>> It's just crazy that statuto is what

took it all down, right? Cuz it's it's

underageed jobs, right? That's what took

it all down.

>> Yeah. I mean, I Well, it seems to be

what took Jeffrey Epstein down.

>> Kind of crazy.

Even that is has a really interesting

geopolitical history. There was a

similar scandal in the early 2000s with

a private military contractor called

Dine Corp. They got in trouble uh moving

basically trafficking underage

to Middle Eastern shakes and I believe

the reason

that was alleged by Congress

that they did that was to juice the

deals with them need the support of the

local highle officials. They need to be

happy and there's several currencies for

that. there's financial payoffs and

there's other things they might like

like parties and young women uh you know

especially in places where you know

being with the very young female is not

illegal and so I would not be surprised

if the Epstein

trafficking

apparatus started

with similar motivations not you know

that it's not for necessarily for

blackmail but because it makes clients

or customers or, you know, VIP people

happy. You know, if you're if you're a

70-year-old billionaire, you can't walk

into a bar and leave aside the the

underage thing. You can't walk into a

bar, you know, and, you know, meet an

18-year-old who's, you know, I'm pres

I'm presum, you know, these things are

facilitated that at private parties and

it needs to, you know, for a lot of

these guys it has to be discreet. You

know, they've got wives, they've got

reputations. I worked at a New York law

firm and you know there's you know

there's there's ways that you can make

partner uh you know at least this was

kind of the vibe that I felt like some

people make partner because they're

really good technically at what they do.

There's some people who make partner

because they know one they brought in

one client who's just a really big main

uh rain maker. And there are some people

who move up because they open doors to

partners while they're associates. They

introduce them to someone and the

partners just like being around that

person because they get access to that

person uh in a currency that they can't

get on their own and that includes

hosting, you know, cool exotic parties,

having, you know, attractive women.

Every time this guy says juice and deals

in the same sentence, I physically

cringe. The mental gymnastics from Mike

Benz to distract from what's really

going on is crazy. We're in the middle

of one of the biggest political

cover-ups in history with millions of

documents detailing some of the most

heinous crimes imaginable. And Rogan

invites a former State Department hack

on the show to lay it all out for us.

This guy's sitting there saying [ __ ]

like cool exotic parties with attractive

women who are used as a currency to keep

them happy so they can juice the deals.

and SlowJo sitting there squinting his

eyes while nodding his oversized shiny

head. Could this seriously get any

worse? The guy who built an empire off

the back of being this freethinking

spirit who is beholden to nobody is now

clearly afraid to ask any questions that

could implicate his billionaire buddies.

Just take a look at how he decides to

wrap up the episode with Greg Fitz

Simmons as soon as Jaime pulls up an

article about Peter Thiel's Palunteer.

Palunteer app use ICE uses to find

neighborhoods to raid. Yeah. So it is

Palanteer at least for that.

>> Yeah. The article he had it I was

blocked by a payw wall. I couldn't I was

trying to get around.

>> Nuts.

>> Joe Rogan experience. Can't afford to

pay for Is this it? We're wrapping it

up.

>> Let's wrap this [ __ ] up. It's 4:00.

>> Can I name some dates?

>> [ __ ] yeah.

>> If it was just a one-off, then I

wouldn't have noticed. But after that

episode with Theo Vaughn, where Rogan

was gaslighting Theo and trying to

convince him that he was overthinking

things, while Theo was clearly having an

existential crisis and clearly calling

out for help, all of this is suspicious.

Whenever someone brings up Palanteer or

Peter Teal, Joe will quickly change the

subject or move things along. It's now

clearer than ever whose side he's on.

And that extends to the Epstein files.

If you thought the mental gymnastics in

that previous clip was bad, wait until

you see these clowns trying to convince

themselves that trafficking is just part

of doing business as long as it's not

kids.

>> That's a very specific illicit desire

to want underage people.

>> Well, a very How do you even find out

that someone's into that?

>> Well, I don't think that the majority or

anything close to it of of the women

were, you know, barely legal. so to

speak. But and I know that there were

cases of underage, but I you know I

think

>> most of it it was just

>> most of it was just very very young but

not not like

>> like 20y old like 13y old type thing.

Many of the clients are like you know in

countries that don't necessarily have

the same norms about that

>> that we do. You can very easily see

someone getting involved in that just

because girls juice deals. I do think

that girls choose deals and the fact

that he had the coolest parties on a

private island with the hottest girls

>> brought in a lot of intellectuals,

stimulating conversations, scientists,

all these very interesting people. So,

that was part of the thing, right?

>> Try hosting a cool party as a guy

without with with a bad ratio, so to

speak. Uh sausage party. With a sausage

party, you become an an important person

to know in the network because basically

every male has that has a desire for

attractive women. Not saying underage

obviously, but that is like a universal

biological desire for men to be want to

be around attractive women.

>> And what did they do for gay guys?

>> I have no idea. The whole point is he's

throwing these very attractive, cool

parties to get all these people

together.

>> But that's what juices deals,

>> right?

>> I swear if this guy says girls juice

deals one more time, I'm going to throw

up. It's like he was given a list of

approved words to repeat on this

episode. And the thing is, I cut this

down into shorter clips for you guys. In

the full episode, he rambles on and on

for ages about these cool parties and

using the hottest girls as a currency.

While I was sitting here editing this

video, I stopped and thought to myself,

what is he trying to achieve by saying

all of this [ __ ] Like, it's such a

weird hill to die on. Imagine hosting

cool parties with no chicks. Bro, we're

talking about a trafficking ring

involving children. They're not cool

parties. They're [ __ ] crime scenes.

Trying to normalize this whole thing is

such a wild thing to do. And you can

tell by how awkwardly he's sitting there

spewing out all this [ __ ] that he

doesn't even believe it himself. He

looks super nervous and anxious as he

recites these talking points. Bro looks

like he's being held hostage. It became

so obvious the more he went on that he

clearly had an agenda. Listen to him

explain how it had nothing to do with

blackmail and it was just a way for

Epstein to help powerful men get deals

done that people had previously turned

down.

Jeffrey Epste asked them to do it and

Jeffrey Epstein, you know, for the past

3 years of their lives has been the best

weekend they've ever had. Has uh, you

know, is made them feel alive again in

their, you know, mid-50s or 60s. I'm

afraid that if I say no to Jeffrey

Epstein on this deal, I'm not gonna get

an invite to the next party. I'm not

gonna be able to get laid again with

like, you know, a girl that I with, you

know, women I find attractive or that,

you know, yada yada. And Epste hooks

those up. It's because it's juiced by

the girls, the parties, the lifestyle

that Epstein allows you to have access

to.

>> But in the public eye, the narrative is

underage girls. And this is the thing

that makes it so disgusting. When people

talk about it, everyone says kids on the

island. This is the this is the the the

big conspiracy about it. And this is the

reason why people are so outraged about

it. My concern with the runaway train on

that, it's a massive manhunt for

something that it may be true. To me,

it's a it's a it's a needle in the hay

stack. It might be true. Good luck

looking for it. when when when I think

about it logically with the role that

Epstein played between BCCI, Iran

Contra, uh Latin American politics,

African politics, Asian politics, major,

you know, world foundations, all it

would seem

ludicrous to me that Epstein

doesn't mean it's impossible,

but logistically, if Epstein ever

directly threatened one um proactively

and really really do someone in like

that and word gets around that that

happens.

everything everything he built goes the

whole rolodex finds out and then even if

the rumor is not even if that rumor

isn't even he even if he didn't if that

rumor existed people aren't going to

want to go to the parties because uh now

that's not like an unfettered good time

that is like oh he did this to this guy

I know calling it a needle in a hay

stack tells you everything you need to

know about this guy it's just a bunch of

dudes having a good time with young

underage people of age who are barely

legal women just having a good time and

helping to juice deals and keep them

happy at some cool exotic party. You

know, just a bunch of old dudes blowing

off some steam. And if there were some

kids there, oh well, good luck proving

it. It's a needle in a haststack, right?

I mean, it's not like we have millions

of pages of evidence that proves exactly

that.

My thing about all this is like, "Oh,

wait. This this dude was a good at

helping you cheat on your taxes,

whatever." He had something about that.

Second of all, he went he probably went,

"Oh, wait. Nerds want to get laid and

they cheat on their wives no matter how

rich and powerful they are. Here's a

plane and a island."

>> What about all the young kids?

>> It sounds like he was a comp just he was

a pimp to nerds.

>> What about the young kid though? He had

a penant for like 1450.

>> So did some other very famous

>> Well, there's a lot of emails like

there's email saying really enjoyed that

young the the 9year-old was it

nine-year-old Brazilian.

>> What?

>> Yeah.

>> And and there's massages on kids and

[ __ ]

>> Wait, where' that go?

>> They said really enjoyed the young ones.

>> There's

>> it's all in the files.

>> There's some nineyear-olds in there.

>> Yeah, there's even younger.

>> Hold on.

>> I'll go to chat after this.

>> Hey, she was 14. Guys, can you get the

right

>> Oh, no. This is just one example, dude.

There's just one. There's so many.

>> Yeah,

>> dude. Come on. She was 14.

>> What is your take today? What the is

going on? Woody Allen. Now you're

defending.

>> Woody Allen's a very different story.

Woody Allen's

>> It's weird. You're dating your stepdad.

>> It's still It's still legal.

>> Let's just pause for a minute and

appreciate exactly what's going on here.

In the latest episode of The Fighter and

the Kid, we've got Brian Callen, a

60-year-old washed up comedian with

allegations leveled against him by

multiple women going back over 20 years,

sitting on a podcast that nobody

watches, identifying with Epstein and

his buddies. So, this is Brian's hot

take on the Epstein situation that he

has everyone calling him out on. Yeah,

maybe there were some kids involved.

That sucks. But for the most part, it

sounded like just a bunch of middle-aged

rich guys hanging out with kids. Hang

on, what? This is one of those times

where someone's literally telling you

who they are, and all you've got to do

is believe them. Since when were 16 and

17year-old girls not classified as kids?

Brian's like, "Yeah, but this kind of

stuff has always been going on, so

what's the big deal?"

>> One time I get it. One time they'd

probably get me. But when you go back

>> when you're there when like Bill Gates

and Bill Clinton when you're there 20

times like but

>> but here hey buddy can I give you can I

give you a

>> there's a there's a a hefty amount of

people who are trying to hang out with

them post

>> yeah my question is back then was it was

it is it possible they didn't know that

he had been

>> that's what Elon Mus is trying to say

>> what else would they say

>> but what would you say I knew you got me

>> but my my my problem with this whole

argument is you're talking about some of

the most powerful smart people in the

world. You think they're that naive?

They all go this island just nobody

knew.

>> Oh, I think everyone's like, "What's

this?"

>> Oh, I think none of them would be dumb

enough to be with a

>> dude. You know what happened?

>> So, watch this. If if you're if you're

Bill Gates, the highest profile person,

Bill Clinton,

>> he was with

>> And you know that a that a guy who did

time as a has a has a party, would you

go anywhere near that motherucker? I

think Bill Clinton would some other guy

suck in mobile office. You think the guy

has morals? You think that guy? I don't

think he has morals. I'm saying I don't

think he and there's no social media.

You know now you would go.

>> All right. I'm going to let Brian

Callen, Joe Rogan, and Mike Benz in on a

little secret. It's not that they didn't

know about what was going on at the

island and at Palm Beach and in New

York. It's not that they didn't know.

It's because they knew what was going

on. That's why they kept on going back

for more. I can't believe these guys are

sitting there and acting all confused as

to why all these elites would want to

hang out with Jeffrey Epstein after he

got busted back in 2008 and was

registered as an offender. That is

precisely why they hung out with him.

They liked it and they wanted more, so

they kept going back. It wasn't about

cool, exotic parties with the hottest

women. It was about Epstein enabling

them to do all the dirty [ __ ] they were

too afraid to organize for themselves.

But Brian really takes it to a whole new

level here. See, Rogan is clearly

compromised and running D for his

buddies. He's the number one podcast in

the world. He's got a massive reach and

influence. He's got to make sure he

doesn't ask too many of the right

questions to embarrass them. Brian Kalan

doesn't have any of those problems. He's

just a creepy dumbass who has strong

opinions about things he knows almost

nothing about. Seriously, listen to how

uninformed he is about the whole

situation after ranting for an hour

about it like he's some sort of expert.

>> This is my problem with all this [ __ ]

Like this is my problem with everything.

There's a 3 million page dump. I don't

know what the was some crazy person.

It's meant to be that way. It's meant to

be that way.

>> Just throwing [ __ ] [ __ ] I don't know

where to look.

>> Yeah. So, this is what they want. So,

it's like these smoke screens. Like,

they want all this.

>> So, then the public goes, I don't know

what the [ __ ]

>> I've asked so many people.

>> Trump goes, "Right."

>> Yeah.

>> I told you there's nothing there. Like,

>> where do we start?

>> Well, Cash Patel with his bug eyes lying

under oath saying that there's nothing

in there about underage kids is crazy.

>> I don't know what's up with that. Yeah.

I don't know. But I I think all of it to

all of it's to cause confusion. So then

eventually the public goes, "All right,

there's some people that this is their

jam. They will go through it."

>> Coffee has been doing

>> to come out months later on.

>> What's What's like the top

>> He's good. I We need to get him on. I

want to hear his take on this. What's he

saying about it?

>> Well, he had a whole a 20 minute long

video about all the actual things that

are verified. He's great at independent

journalism.

>> He's really good.

>> Coffeezilla lives really close to us.

Does he want to hit him up? San Antonio

is close.

>> Yeah, let's get him on.

>> That guy know that guy knows a [ __ ]

>> Yeah, I want to hear what he has to say

about this.

>> And my dad watching Fox News all day

hears nothing about this [ __ ]

>> He just goes YouTube be though. That

That's how he makes a living.

>> He has like 20 million views on this.

>> That pause right there is poetic. Two

days ago, Coffeezilla posted a 37 minute

video detailing some of the worst

allegations from the files, which now

has 4 and a half million views. 5 days

ago, he had a 16-minute video that has

over 6 million views. And Brian Callen

sitting there saying, "I'd love to hear

what he thinks about all of this. We

should get him on the show." Why in the

[ __ ] would Coffeezilla go on The Fighter

and the Kid, a show that gets 30 to

40,000 views to go over the same things

he just explained in his own videos that

have over 10 million views. That is peak

delusion right there. And it tells you

everything you need to know about how

much effort Brian Callen puts into his

hot takes. Meanwhile, Brendan Shaw and

that other guy, whoever he is, are

sitting there trying to explain to Ken

that he can just go over and watch

Coffeezilla's videos on YouTube. This is

what really frustrates me about this.

Guys like Rogan and Ken do zero research

and jump on their podcast to offer their

views on a situation they know almost

nothing about. And Rogan could have

easily gotten Coffeezilla on JRE this

week to go through all the details, but

instead we get Mike Benz telling us he

hasn't seen any evidence that there were

children involved. These guys are openly

defending the worst kind of people.

They're making it out as if they've got

it all figured out and anyone who's

asking questions is being unreasonable

and overly skeptical. You know,

borderline conspiracy theory territory.

And these guys are supposedly the

funniest comedians alive. We've got

comedians telling us now that Epstein

was really just more of the same.

Nothing new here. It doesn't affect you

anyway, so just carry on. The moment the

conversation gets anywhere near their

own social class, the billionaires and

elites, suddenly everything turns foggy

and it's all just so casual. Rogan is

happy to spend three hours passionately

dissecting cancel culture or some

cultural war [ __ ] but when it comes

to the most documented trafficking

scandal in modern history, he simply

thinks it's crazy and nuts. This is

where it all clicks for me because once

you notice this pattern, you cannot

unsee it. Every single time the

conversation drifts towards people with

real money and real power and real

influence, the energy completely dies.

Rogan's curiosity disappears. Suddenly,

it's all, "I don't know, man. It's

complicated. There's a lot of noise. We

don't have all the facts." And then on

his next podcast, he'll tell Jaime to

pull up a fake video and try to convince

all of us that it's real. And if it's

not real, you know, it could be real,

right? It's almost like they think

Epstein is a thought experiment, like

he's some sort of metaphor instead of a

trafficker. And when Brendan Schwab is

offering the most coherent position in

the room, something has gone seriously

wrong. If Schwab is the smartest guy in

the room, then basically that room is

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one. My wife was a big model. My first

wife, she went to New York, I think when

she was 13 because there was so much

money to be made. When How old were you

when you first went to New York?

>> How old was I when I met you? I was 26

when I met you. So maybe

>> I don't know.

>> 24.

>> Yeah. Well, that backfired.

>> 24.