*7 Rate Cuts* | What Powell Said Today
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Powell day two meeting done. Bottom line
that we got out of what happened with
Powell and the Fed today. Here you go.
First, Morgan Stanley is yapping about
how the Federal Reserve will delay its
rate cuts until March of 2026,
but then they will cut seven times in
2026. So, basically, if you've been
betting on rate cuts, tariffs have now
delayed rate cuts by three to n months.
Uh, and here you go. This is where they
talk about tariffs. And so, sorry if
you've been betting on rate cuts. Donald
Trump delayed that. And now it's all
going to get backloaded to 2026, says
Morgan Stanley. Now, they're predicting
seven rate cuts next year. And a lot of
people on social media are saying, "Oh
my gosh, if the Fed cuts this much,
there's probably a really big underlying
problem."
And that could be true. But what I'd
like to do first is look at what the
market is already pricing in for 2026.
Because in my opinion, it's the delta
that matters. You know, if the market is
pricing in two rate cuts for 2026 and
Morgan Stanley is predicting seven,
that'd be a problem, right?
But if the market's pricing in a lot of
rate cuts, maybe it's not that big of a
deal. So what we could do is we could
look at futures markets and understand,
okay, how what's trading, you know, what
what are what's the futures market
basically saying in terms of where the
Federal Reserve Fed futures funds rate
will be at the end of 2026?
And the answer is actually five rate
cuts. Uh so markets are currently
pricing in uh negative 1.25% 25%
uh in rate cuts by the end of 2026. That
would bring us to about 3.25
uh 3 to 3.25. Whereas Morgan Stanley is
predicting about 2 and a half to 2.75.
So that extra kind of twoish rate cuts
in there. Markets are projecting that we
will have by the end of this year about
2.4 rate cuts. So slightly closer to two
than three, but it's a little bit of a
tossup. And that's as of December 10th.
third rate cut almost fully priced in
for January 28th. That's my birthday,
2026. Uh and then you have um you know
rate cuts just sort of even evenly
scattered throughout 26. So this isn't
very far away from what futures markets
are already pricing in. So I don't
necessarily think this is uh something
that indicates oh you know we've got
really big problems coming. However,
Powell did today spend more time talking
about the concept of the Beaver curve,
or it's spelled Beaver, but it's
technically pronounced beverage curve,
which I think sounds really weird
because it's like, are we talking about
like beverages like beer and, you know,
coffee or what? But anyway, uh on the uh
e-hack app, which you can get, you know,
you just throw in Meet Kevin into your
Android or Apple app store, you'll see
the Meet Kevin app. And what what we did
is I I I threw in here the normal versus
the abnormal
uh charts for the beverage curve. And
it's worth just doing a quick
understanding of it because Powell does
talk about this today during his Senate
meeting. He talked about how low
vacancies and low hiring could normalize
and lead to a significant jump in
unemployment. We've talked about this
before, so it's just worth briefly
rehashing. This is the big concern that
I think is driving a lot of the Fed
officials to start thinking we need
preemptive cuts. You know, I know that
there's this concern that there's going
to be inflation coming. I mean, Powell
mentions it himself. He says the
majority of forecasters right now are
looking at a significant increase in
inflation by the end of the year. We
just don't know how big that impact is
going to be or when it's going to
happen. The good news though is housing
services are going to be an anchor
because rents have finally stabilized
and some markets are negative. You house
hack, for example, we saw rents going
negative when we were exploring areas
like in Arizona or Texas in 2022 and
2023. And it was a warning sign for us
not to invest in those markets because
there was an oversaturation of product.
And so that's why we stayed out of those
markets. And sure enough, those markets
have had more problems with price than
the markets we ended up investing in.
Real estate's really slow moving. So,
you can kind of see this happening. But
rents aren't moving like they were
during COVID, which is really important
because it means it's going to weigh
down consumer price inflation over the
next few years, which is actually really
conducive towards rate cuts because
housing makes up about 35% of the CPI
inflation reading and about 25% of what
the Fed uses, the PCE inflation
readings. So housing's a huge component.
Obviously, when we go look at the
inflation reports in the coming weeks,
what we want to pay attention to are
goods inflation levels, which I expect
to see more of in the producer price
side than on the consumer side. Uh but
that said, if we don't if those
forecasts are wrong and JPAL's wrong
that, you know, there's this big wave of
tariff inflation coming, you know,
following our June 9th expiration of the
Liberation Day pause, hopefully we get
some negotiated deals, then then yeah,
the path to cutting rates could be that
we're cutting because we don't need high
rates anymore because of uh inflation
coming down or or or normalizing. Or it
could be like JPAL said yesterday, hey,
growth is slowing and low vacancies and
low hiring could end up normalizing
leading to a significant jump in
unemployment. And this is where we get
to this beverage curve, which very
briefly, you may have seen it before.
I'll just quickly explain it again. It's
very, very important because where we
sit right now is very abnormal. Here is
a more normal beverage curve from 2000
to 2019 and it shows this downward
sloping relationship. It's really
simple. when job openings are really
really high, unemployment tends to be uh
uh you know on the low side. So here's
the unemployment rate over here. So if
you get low unemployment, you go to the
left, high job openings, you go to the
top, you get a normal position on the
curve. If you get high or sort of low
job openings, you tend to see the
unemployment rate in the high
environment over here. So you've got
high unemployment and low job openings.
But this is not where we are right now.
We sit in a very unusual place where job
openings have collapsed on the left side
of the curve. And we're actually
plotting dots on this left side right
here between 2023 and 24. In fact,
here's a snapshot of what the beverage
curve looks like right now. And all of
these dots right here are 2023 and 24.
So this abnormal curve, very abnormal,
has been building since the, you know,
post-pandemic distortions. And the that
what JPAL is really concerned about is
that when this normalizes
we are going to see uh you know where we
are at this very very low level of
vacancies. We would expect to see this
curve normalize and if the curve
normalizes to you know this level over
here where job vacancies are right now
very very low well we could be at a 12
to 14% unemployment rate. What's
interesting though is while job openings
have been plummeting, they've really
plummeted to levels that we last saw in
2019 and 2018. And this is where a lot
of people say we don't necessarily have
to see a big surge of unemployment. So a
lot of this is just COVID distortion
right here that shows yes the job
openings rate is plummeting. Uh but when
we look at the actual nominal level of
job openings, the nominal level of job
openings is sort of consistent with this
expansionary level we saw in 2018 2019.
Although we've seen structurally higher
job openings and one of the other
distortions of this could be that we
have fewer people getting into trades
and manufacturing now which makes it
even harder uh to compare to the past.
But let's look at the rate of change and
and let's to try to get rid of some of
these distortions over time. Let's look
at the actual percent change from a year
ago and let's go with a quarterly here
just to smooth it out. There we go. And
so what you can see is when you're
negative, you're usually in like a 2007
to 2008 period. This unfortunately only
goes back to 2002. It does show you a
negative level in 2002. Negative level
in 2008 to 9. negative level during
COVID, even leading up to COVID, very
briefly in 2017 on a quarter negative
over here. And then we've really been
negative on this job openings course
since 2023. And this is why a lot of
people are like, "Oh, you know, we're
just we're just normalizing. We're just
normalizing." Uh, but the the broad
question is what keeps the labor market
together right now? Well, right now, the
only thing that keeps it together is the
lack of layoffs. Because if you end up
in a place where you have layoffs in
this sort of environment and then you
normalize out to the right, there's
there's no job for you to get anymore.
And this is what we're seeing a lot of
with the Fed is the Fed's talking about,
hey, it's actually if you have a job,
you're good. But if you've lost your
job, that's where things end up getting
painful. Uh, and so that kind of gives
us a little bit of color on Morgan
Stanley's talk about seven rate cuts,
the concern the Fed has like, is this a
normalization? or we going to break out,
you know, into a disgusting direction.
At the same time, the 102 yield curve is
sitting in shock territory again at 52.
So, nothing major new from Powell today.
This is more of a reiteration of what
we've been expecting, but uh you do get
this talk from Morgan Stanley about
seven rate cuts coming next year. And uh
hopefully it's just because of a
normalization of inflation, but if we do
get a layoff spike, then we end up with
problems. I mean, look at what's going
on with Microsoft, for example. you're
getting these thousands of sort of
rolling layoffs almost every single
month. You know, last month it's the
sales division, this month it's Xbox,
you know, whatever. What you're also
finding is a lot of the big tech
companies got a lot of heat in 2022 for
conducting these massive sudden layoffs
and now they're preferring this sort of
like monthly rolling layoff because it
gets less attention than mass layoffs
all of a sudden. So that could be
another dynamic that that sort of slowly
breaks the back of the labor market. Not
great. Also looking at what's going on
in stocks right now, Tesla bounced very
close to our 318 level, which we talked
about in the alpha report heavily over
the last few days. Uh talked about
rejecting 347, not wanting to bet on a
surge of Tesla that it was likely to
trend towards 318. It's exactly what
ended up happening. We also talked about
how uh circle was very likely to trend
back to its 210 retracement line. And
given that we're now at 3 days of a
falling momentum on circle, we might end
up falling right through 210. And sure
enough, look at this. We bounce at 210.
We bounce at 210. We lose 210. Then we
reject 210. I don't know how much more
bearish you can get. And sure enough,
now we're trending right back down. Next
stop looks like it's 182. Make sure
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Congratulations, man. You have done so
much. People love you. People look up to
you. Kevin Praath there, financial
analyst and YouTuber, Meet Kevin. Always
great to get your take.
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