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At one point, Puff had the ability to

avert some of the East Coast, West Coast

[ __ ] Maybe you could explain that a

little better.

Well, you know, um, when you know, at

this time, but we were just talking

about Pac is dead, but prior to before

Pac died,

you know, um, Suge Knight was starting

what they call Death Row East,

right? I remember that. Yeah.

And the president of Death Row East

wasn't going to be Tupac.

The president was going to be Eric B.

That makes sense. Rock and

and Craig Mack was going to be their

first artist.

Wow.

You understand?

Wow. That would have been interesting.

So he was going to leave Bad Boy to go

to death for release.

He was already left Bad Boy.

He hadn't been with Bad Boy for 2 years.

You understand? A year or two. him and

Big Big didn't like him. It was a bunch

of [ __ ] in-house [ __ ]

right?

So Craig Mack uh was going to be their

first, you know, it was going to be Big

D, Eric B. And Craig Mack, Big D was a a

dude that was big in the streets in in

Harlem, Queens, New York, period,

right?

Good dude. You understand what I'm

saying? Uh solid brother, was respected

in and out the streets, the prison

system, the whole nine yards.

What's up, Mike?

Hey, what's up?

What's up, dude?

Michael always has to come say hi.

Fistb

with the presidential.

One thing I always ask myself, I got a

lot of friends that do like a lot of

executive production protection type

work.

At any point, do you come to terms with

the fact that I might have to put my

life on the line for this guy or these

people? Is that a real thing? Or you

just kind of put in the back of your

mind like that ain't going to happen,

man. Man, failure to prepare is

preparing to fail.

You understand?

Prevention.

Nothing beats an ambush. You always on

point. You always on ready.

You understand? when you out of state

out of lines kind of on the other side

it's like not so much is under my

control you know so like the going out

there that risk is always going to be

enhanced you it's more exposure when you

out of town right

yeah yeah but still and on you you man

you I don't know man but I never went

out my house not thinking it couldn't

happen

right

even today

right

I don't think it I'm not the type of guy

that you know like just say when I go

out on dates. I've been out on dates

with people and stuff like that. I'm

like this

and then and a girl might walk by and

you so disrespectful. Why you always if

you notice I'm always looking.

I'm holding down.

You know what I'm saying? You just don't

understand. It can happen at any time at

anybody.

That's a fact.

I don't care who it is.

And people, you got to be, you know,

it's it's it's it's sad that you have to

live like that during your time, but

when you've been in law enforcement and

you've been in security,

it is what it is,

right?

You understand? And I just live like

that. But to get back to what you were

saying,

yeah, the death row east,

the death row east coast uh thing was a

it was going to be a legitimate Eric B

came out and talked about and said yes.

He he said the same thing that I said.

But prior to that is that

Eric vonzip had called Puff when we were

in California

and uh Suge Knight and all them was in

New York and they wanted to squatch the

East Coast, West Coast beef [ __ ]

And again, this is before Pox death.

Before Pox's death,

you understand?

Um,

Puff got a call from

Haitian Jack.

Yeah. Infamous.

You know what I'm saying? Hian Jack. And

Haitian Jack could Haitian Jack could

attest to this.

He called Zip back and said, "Y'all

making me look bad." Because all them

was partying with Suge Knight

and the Death Row people at the Mirage

and different places and stuff like

that. You understand? So Zip was telling

him, "Man, we trying to squash this

[ __ ] and everything like that. Just

give me or get some give me or you send

somebody, you understand, the right to

speak for you so we can squash this [ __ ]

and everything like that."

Puff wouldn't give him that right.

Damn.

say members from the east, members from

the west, and all they want to do is

bring Puff along to sit down and make

sure everything was cool, and he ain't

want to do it.

He ain't want to do it.

He thought he was going to owe somebody

something,

right?

You know what I'm saying?

He ain't want to get into that. So, do

you think, cuz you know how the theory

goes, do you think that uh Puff

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was looking to benefit from Big, maybe

had something to deal with it, or was

just turning a blind eye and figured

that uh, you know, just he was too big

for that to happen to him?

Bro, I can't speak for what another man

could think or what another man may

know. I can only speak from what I know

and what I believe and I didn't see that

at that time.

Yeah,

man.

So,

poor judgment and and your guys and and

your guess if you had to guess like uh

you can't say poor judgment cuz I can't

speak for another man thought process.

You understand? But would I have either

made it or would I have sent somebody

that was as like mind as myself and

understood like myself?

Wolf was in the city. He wasn't in

California with us. You know, at the

time it was just me and Puff. You know

what I'm saying? He was shooting that uh

that Billboard I think that that

Billboard thing. It was either Billboard

or either what's the other big magazine

at the time?

Source. source.

Um,

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no.

No. Uh, the other big white magazine,

it was Billboard and um,

Rolling Stone.

Rolling Stones.

You know what I'm saying? Thank you.

I love how he goes.

You say this a show. We got to keep it

100 like act like you act, talk like you

talk. You know what I'm saying?

You know what I'm saying? So, you know,

um

he could have sent Wolf,

right?

You know what I'm saying? Wolf wouldn't

have made Wolf would have made sure that

everything was, you know, corporal

static whereas that we nobody was giving

up nothing, nobody had to do nothing and

stuff like that,

right? You see,

you know, obviously with everything that

has transpired, what we had in front of

us today was a huge day with um the

Diddy trial and them mentioning that and

I don't know much about it. I'm not

going to sit here and act like I'm the

most informed of the trial. I try to uh

focus on everything in my life, my

children, my family, my business, and

things of that nature, but I do hear it,

right? Uh but today was a big day with I

believe the verdict was reached on four

or five counts.

Yeah. Uh but let's get back to what you

said uh before you left. I think that

I know this is your show and everything,

but you said something about the mace

thing cuz I I really want to address

that about the Perfect. I thought you

talked about it. That's why.

No, we didn't. Okay.

Cuz he came with another question. Then

he came with another question outside of

what you want to do. But I I don't want

to I don't want to not get to your

question.

I appreciate that.

Um and I know this your show, sir, and I

don't want to say I just want to

appreciate you. Appreciate it.

I get so much flack from that. You

understand? You know, like why did you

take the gun from Drock? Why did you do

this? Why did you do that? The whole

nine yards. If you allow me to walk you

through it, you know, the before Big got

murdered, you know what I'm saying? Then

I would like to do that if it's okay.

Absolutely. Yes.

All right. So, um,

turn the mic over a little bit so it's

it's Yeah. Like you could point it. Yep.

There you go.

All right. So, now when we were up in

the club, right, we were up in the club

and everything like that and the fire

department get ready to shut down the um

the building, you know, stuff like that.

So when the fire department come, I'm

thinking

we're sitting ducks if we go outside and

wait for the cars to come to us. You

understand? It's a crowd of people going

run up in the crowd. Pow! Then what

people going to do? They going to

scatter.

You understand? Something like that. So

now I say to myself, you understand?

Let me give let me go and put the trucks

downstairs. You understand what I'm

saying? You know, that particular time I

had three weapons. I gave Paul a weapon

when we was at the house.

Paul is the head of security, Green Gate

security and stuff like that. So I

gave him one of my weapons and

everything like that when we was at the

house before we left the house.

So now I got a weapon on my side, I got

one on my ankle. You know, your ankle,

your weapon on your ankle is your last

resort.

You know what I'm saying? If you run out

at the top, you understand? like that

and you're in a situation, you go to

your ankle.

You know what I'm saying? So now,

um, I give

Big's man, Drock, Brooklyn guy, one of

my guns and I say, "Yo, watch Big. I'll

be right back." You understand? I didn't

want to leave them naked or nothing like

that. You understand? So I say, "Watch

big." And I I know Paul got a gun and

they got the other security up there,

but I'm telling Drock cuz he is that's

his man. Watch Big. I'll be right back.

I run downstairs, make sure the cars is

in front. So as soon as we go out, we go

straight to the cars and we can get out

of there.

Be out of there.

You understand? That's something

security minded. You don't wait for

nobody.

We never ever waited for anybody

at any time when we was in New York

City. Why the hell are we doing it in

California?

So now um

I come back upstairs, I get my weapon

from Drock, put it back on my side.

That's my weapon. You understand? I

didn't know if Drock had a gun or not.

That's not for me to know. You

understand? If you know we're going out

to California

and your man got beef cuz you know he

got beef cuz he didn't he didn't big

said

I don't know why y'all letting them dog

pound and pock them over there shooting

a video in Red Hook and they van go get

shot up. So if you think California uh

guys are going to let you come to

California

after you done put that type of energy

out there and not do nothing, these

fight over colors,

you done shot up they win a baggo and

everything. You think ain't nothing

going to happen.

Why would you come out there and you

don't have nothing but just for the sake

of things?

not knowing, not caring. I just gave him

my weapon and just said, "Yo, watch

big." So when I come back in thinking,

man, what they going to do? They going

to get their they gun back. Especially

from a Brooklyn.

Yeah. Let me get my piece back, bro.

Especially from a Brooklyn. This is the

flat. And this is what Yo, why you take

You got ignorant guys on the internet.

Why you take the gun back from Drock?

Well, why Drock didn't have his own gun?

Huh?

I don't know if Drock had a gun or not.

I didn't care.

I'm just looking out

because I'm leaving Bigum upstairs with

them.

So, when we get back downstairs, we all

get in the car. Come on, let's go. Puff

like, yo, hold up, hold up, hold up.

He going around getting girls.

Yo, Jean, like he was doing upstairs.

Remember her for the pool party

tomorrow.

Remember her from the pool party

tomorrow. Remember that from the pool

party tomorrow? Just bringing girls to

big and bring girls up to me. I'm like,

what? We never did that [ __ ] before.

So we line up on the sidewalk. When we

line up on the sidewalk,

that's when this Muslim guy first first

a guy come down in a blue and white

shirt. He comes down strangely cuz

nobody on that side of the theater.

We're the only one on that side of the

theater. Everybody else is on the other

side. The police, the amalands, the fire

department, everybody's on the other

side. We're the only one on that side.

So this guy just come out the blue in a

blue and white shirt. So I keep my eye

on him.

He walks through. I say something to

Paul. That was it.

Now

we pull out in the driveway.

We in the driveway now. So this guy and

the Muslim start coming down.

The the Muslim guy start coming down the

street. when he start coming down the

street. I'm behind one of the pillows.

It was a pillow right there at the time.

They didn't change the whole thing now.

So, I'm behind the pillow, but I see him

coming down the street. So, I'm just

counting steps in my mind. So, when he

got when I think like he didn't took

about 20 steps, he should be like three

to four car lengths from puff. I just

come off the pillow with my gun like

this.

He looks at me, I look at him, he walks

back down the street.

You understand?

Yeah.

So he's out of sight. So we line up the

cars inside the Peterson Museum.

And so then

we ride in front of Big's car.

We

We ride in front of Big's car. Uh Paul

comes up to me. I said, "Paul, you ready

to go?" He said, "Yeah, we ready." I

said, "All right, cool. Follow us." So

then I go to my car where Puff is at cuz

Puff is my principal. You understand? I

get on side of the car, right? I get on

the side of the car. So they had the

guard rails on those Suburbans

at that time.

I'm 265 lbs.

You understand? Yeah,

I'm a whole body than that right now.

You know what I'm saying? Back then, I'm

light enough. You know what I'm saying?

So,

Puff said to me, "Jean, get in the car."

Said, "Why?" He said, he said, "Jean, we

don't need that." I said, "How you going

to tell me how to do my job, man? You

know what I'm saying?" He said, "Jean,

if you don't get in this car, you ain't

going to never work for Bad Boy again."

I said, "I might not never work for Bad

Boy anyway." Mhm.

Jean, get in the car. I said, "Yo." So,

I get in the car and he's just as soon

as I get in the car, he pulls the seat

back. So, I'm like this now. I said,

"Man, what the [ __ ] is you doing?" I

said, "Yo, Kenny, run the next three

lights. Run the next three lights."

Like, Kenny, he said, "Uh, why?" I said,

"Kenny, run the next three lights and

let me drive."

And Kenny just took off.

Right. The reason I said run the next

three lights here god working again two

weeks before I went to that California

thing.

I took what you call an interrogation

and surveillance class done by the DEA.

The DEA said in that surveillance in

that class they said if you want to know

somebody following you

make three rights.

Where you at when you make three rights?

Same.

You're back where you started.

You back where you started at.

You understand what I'm saying?

He said run three lights or make He said

run three lights or take three rights.

That's what they said in the class. They

also taught you how to interrogate

somebody. You understand? They taught

you how to do surveillance and they

taught you how to do surveillance so you

ain't seen.

You know what I mean?

Yeah. So that's what came to my mind.

Can you run the next three lights?

So anybody know

and if y'all all went to the club

together before and I can go around this

room and I bet you I get the same

response from each and every one of

y'all. You understand? And I want y'all

to be totally honest right now. You

understand? Listen, y'all all went to

the club together. Right.

Right.

He run the light. What you going to do?

I'mma run the light. He run the light.

What you going to do?

Run that light.

Yo, my man. He run the light. What you

going to do?

I did that a few times.

We all going to run the light.

Yeah.

I just did this [ __ ] a couple weeks ago.

Anybody know we all going to get the

ticket

or the last man?

We all the last man. We all and then and

and if we see the police pulling them

over, what we going to do?

We all going over.

No, we all going to pull over.

Yeah. Well, I'm pulling over.

Unless you got some warrant,

but I can't. We stay together. Yeah.

You love me.

Anybody know? That's how we roll. That's

how we do. I've asked some women on my

show. I got my own show, Jean D Show.

The women said the same thing. We all

going to run the light,

right?

Big driver stayed at the light.

The dude pulled out the parking space.

It was no driveby, brother.

It was never drive by. And everybody in

here always thought it was a driveby,

right?

Yeah, I remember hearing that.

They pull up next to him. Yeah,

cuz y'all heard them white boys tell

y'all that.

That dude was parked there all night.

He was parked there all night and the

Muslim dude who walked down to me.

That's the dude who killed Big.

Damn.

Wow.

So now we passed the light.

But you said he walked up the puff

first, right?

He walked up the puff car first.

That's when I stepped out and had the

ham and showed him.

Yeah. Yeah. I was listening.

You know what I'm saying? The dude

looked me dead in the face. God is good

again. Because I had a four I I was on

when we was on tour,

I was in the tour truck with

Farrakhan's son, Mustafa.

I didn't know [ __ ] about the Muslim

nation, brother. I was new to it. I I I

I I'm I'm

dumbfounded.

So, I'm very inquisitive where I don't

know something, I want to know.

And he told me, he said, "Yo, we teach

the young men to humble themselves.

That's the first thing we teach them,

how to humble themselves." And when a

Muslim look you in the eye,

he's supposed to say the paroreial words

of assalamu alaykum. Right.

That dude who dressed like a Muslim,

looked like a Muslim, that I assumed

that was a Muslim, didn't say a damn

word to me.

He just turned around and went the other

way.

He didn't say, "Damn, brother, what's

the hostility?"

Right?

He didn't say, "Asalam alalaykum

alhamdulillah."

None of that.

He didn't say none of that.

He's not a friend.

He looked me in my eye, looked down at

my gun, and walked the other way.

So now Tone, who's behind me, and I'm

sideways, he say, "Somebody got a gun at

uh pointing at Bigum, the car's right

there on the corner."

Now,

instead of Kenny stopping the car

and put it in reverse or or doing a

U-turn, when Tone said that, he said

somebody pointing a gun and begging

them. Him supposed to be security who's

driving.

He's supposed to stop the car, turn

around.

We don't need to hear no more. They

point the gun at Big. When he heard

that,

he didn't do none of that.

He said, "What' you say, Tone?" Then we

go,

"Just speed the car." I'm like, "To,

what the [ __ ] is you doing?

Turn this around, Tone." You know what

he said? We don't know who he's shooting

at.

I'm telling Kenny that.

Sorry about that, Josa.

So he panic.

He start flying.

He then stop after I'm screaming at him.

He turns back around. He turns and he

stops dead in front of Big's car. Me and

Puff run out. And um I'm behind Puff.

No. Diddy. And um God can't nobody say.

This is the greatest timing ever. Jesus

Christ. So, uh,

I'm on and then Tone say, "Yo, Jean,

come on." Me and Tone jumped in a

suburban now and we start trying to

chase the guy and we was following and

uh, Tone just took the right turn and

then we seemed like we was going up a

hill like up there and when we got up

there, we didn't see [ __ ] nobody. And

then and the the driver of Big's car ran

off at the time.

This mother put the car in park,

jumpside and run. Every door in big car

was open to shove his.

So you had time enough to put the car in

park.

That's the worst part.

You understand what I'm saying?

When you heard that first shot, you knew

it was where it was coming from. You

could have just crashed the car.

That would have stopped the driver at

least.

You could have just crashed the car.

He put the car in park and jumped out

and ran. Everybody in Big's car ran

except Big.

And the driver is no just driver. It's

security.

No, it wasn't. It was just one of Big's

dudes. Okay. G Money, bro.

He

He wasn't security at all.