Rebuying Tesla Stock? An Analysis.
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is it finally time to repurchase a Tesla
stock in this video we are going to
analyze the fundies the fundamentals of
Tesla stock first it's important to know
that a lot of folks about a month ago
seeing bad deliveries coming decided you
know what let's trim Nvidia stock and
trim Tesla stock and use them to offset
each other as a tax loss Harvest for the
tax slots that you had purchased at
higher levels that doesn't mean all of
your Shares are potentially negative
most people know and in case you don't
know there are brokerages that let you
pick which shares you want to sell so
let's say you have some Tesla stock you
bought at 50 some at 100 some at 150
some at 200 250 well you could sell
those at 250 and 200 by picking those
out telling your broker to sell
specifically those tax slots take a loss
on those without affecting the sales on
your original uh stocks that have gains
those shares so then you could offset
that with something like an Nvidia which
peaked out about a month ago around that
950 970 level and now it's sitting in
the high 8s you know 880 850 is where it
was yesterday so there's been an
opportunity to pull that kind of trade
the question now though is are the
fundamentals strong now to where
reallocating to Tesla makes sense and in
this video we're going to analyze
exactly that it's worth noting that
there have been a few pieces out uh from
the street on Tesla over the last few
days it's worth taking a Peak at a
couple of these for example Adam Jonas
who's a really big Tesla bull when it
comes to the software side uh he says
Tesla has a big moat when it comes to
data and compute do note that Tesla's
in-house Computing segment which Adam
Jonas gives a lot of valuation to Dojo
was sort of um called a highrisk uh you
know less likely to happen bet by Elon
in the last earnings calls and that
negative sort of pessimism on on on do
Dojo was a little disappointing for some
Tesla investors but it's true Tesla
still has the data the lead on energy
the question's going to be what's the
path to monetizing Robo taxi we'll talk
a lot about that you got a bar Clays and
they have a piece where they basically
compare the Uber Bulls and the normal
Bulls they call them the rational Bulls
uh those that are just using reason and
logic and then the exuberant bulls that
are a lot more enthusiastic I meant to
switch to this one we're going to go to
that spreadsheet in a moment we're going
to go through four scenarios here but uh
here is uh that barklay piece and they
suggest that rational Bulls think the
pivot away from the model 2 is actually
dangerous because it reduces vehicle
volumes for the company Barclays goes as
far as saying 60% of their 2023 volume
for Tesla comes from the model 2 so you
kind of really want to see some model 2
movement uh for for Tesla here whereas
what they call the uh they they think
that rational bull C the model 2 is
maybe the iPhone moment for Tesla where
you could really get this broad-based
expansion compete with the Hyundai the
Civics uh whatever right the the sort of
um the Corollas of the world you want to
compete in that low 20s tier the 19 to
25k so uh there's been a lot of
enthusiasm around that 25k car bringing
that mass Market opportunity again the
Uber Bulls see this as oh Robo taxi is
close closer this is really good news
this is really bullish it means we're
about to be at Robo taxi version 1234
just came out I've not tested 1234 yet
I'm on 1233 uh you I got the download I
got to got to update it but I haven't
done that yet uh but for this for the
purposes of this fundamental video we're
going to go a little further than just
oh what's the latest update how's the
latest update because we've got a lot of
work to do when it comes to fstd that's
not saying it's not great we posted a
pretty good survey on ec.com
and you can see that here this is from
Twitter and so we cited them here you
can click on the link for that but uh
this is a very interesting personal FSD
progress tracker survey and so they
collected data to see how people think
uh 123 and and versions 12 are behaving
and really what you find is it's gotten
very good at smoother left and right
turns however it is more likely to clip
curves now which is not great so you be
careful on that it's substantially
better at Lane changes and heavy
traffics slowing down for bumps or dips
much better on this uh but it's still
having issues on hand signal navigation
when they're traffic cops understanding
new road signs pulling over for
emergency vehicles Behavior at flashing
red lights bad at it doesn't basically
doesn't reverse not great at parking
very bad at avoiding potholes or
avoiding uh you know coasting in
people's blind spots those are some
issues that it has now but gotten much
better at things like roundabouts for
example where previously it was terrible
and it's actually pretty functional at
roundabouts so FSD is definitely
improving is it is it full self-driving
yet no but it's definitely improving
you've got brand retention at the that's
the strongest over at Tesla compared to
any other brands so you've got a lot of
enthusiasm for the stock uh and and the
brand itself the question is can we
actually get to a place where we're
going to see this enthusiasm translate
into fundamentals right now you can see
Tesla stocks down about 75 bit on the
day hanging out at that about
1702 line let's see if we're able to
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that with no recurring fees so what do
we want to do over here well on this
spreadsheet this is going to be a little
tricky okay so you're going to have to
kind of roll with me on this one uh
we're going to go down one column at a
time and then we're going to just change
very few things so you can see some
changes here the first thing we're going
to do is we're going to assume 2.5
million vehicle delivered for
202 uh 6 so these are going to be 2026
numbers and the way we're going to come
up with that is we're going to assume
flat for 2024 and then we're going to go
with about 18% growth for 25 and six
that should get us all the way to 2.5
million vehicles delivered for 2025 now
that's a far cry from where we used to
be at like 3.1 million vehicles or even
3.6 million Vehicles where some
estimates were for 2025 so the estimates
have come down substantially it is worth
keeping in mind that one of the biggest
ways Tesla can increase their earnings
per share right now is through vehicle
deliveries this is why there's so much
talk about that compact model 2 and
concerns that if we don't have the
compact model 2 we're going to get fewer
deliveries the Tesla remains a little
bit more in that luxury car market space
even though you can get a pretty
inexpensive model 3 or used model y
these days we're going to be just
focusing on new cars right now so the
First Column right here is we're going
to go cars only what is the basic
valuation of Tesla when we look at it
from a cars only point of view we'll go
with a revenue per vehicle of about
44,000 2.5 million Vehicles we'll assume
most of that is from sales we'll give 2%
to leases we'll say servicing is about
5% which most of that is a break even
business anyway and what we're going to
do is we're going to be generous here
we're going to give Tesla uh a little
bit more than a double on energy that's
going to include revenues from uh
supercharging it's going to be offset by
lower regulatory credits but it's going
to include uh mega pack solar whatever
over the next two and a half years we
think an easy two and a half double for
that energy but who knows all of this is
risky none of it is personalized
Financial advice so what do we have when
we go here well we get total revs uh and
then we're going to start getting some
expenses what we're going to do for
margin is we're going to go with a
margin of
82.5% that's because the long run
average you're seeing in sort of the
Chinese automakers is somewhere around
12 to 15% margin we'll give Tesla a
little bit of Street Credit here we'll
give him a 17.5% margin it's a far cry
from the 30% margin we hit with
regulatory credits and at one point
without regulatory credits which was
really impressive that marked the top
for the stock since then margin's been
straight down and we're not even over
20% right now so we're going to go
conservative we're going to go with 17 %
and we're going to assume that future
efficiency improvements in manufacturing
are just going to go to making the car
more affordable rather than increasing
margin so we can get more volume so
that's why I'm going to stick with 18.5%
margin in fact one of the things we will
not do is we won't be CH changing margin
as we go through this we're going to
assume the expenses on FSD are 10% the
expenses on Robo taxi we're going to go
with I'm going to go with 50% expenses
on Robo Taxi
expenses on leases 55% Services 95% so
basically break even on Services most of
the money really could come from FSD
that's where you can you know you're
going to spend about 10% on chips that
could work out to $400 million uh uh
this year but in the long run it should
work out average out to about 10% on
chips and training and and all of that
to make sure our end to-end neural Nets
are operating as well as possible and of
course we'll use a tax rate of 19%
across the board then what we're going
to do is uh we are going to use a uh 30%
growth rate for our earnings per share
so we really want to see 30% EPS growth
if you're using less EPS growth for the
average of the next four years you're
going to have a problem with valuation
but we're going to leave that for a
moment so in the far left column we're
going to go 17.5% margin 2 1.5 million
vehicle deliveries no FSD no Robo taxi
all I want to see is what is this stock
worth from the point of view of Auto
Sales and from a point of view of just
Auto Sales
at 30% EPS growth going forward for the
next 4 years I should be at about a
$163 stock that's really just 2 1.5
million Vehicles delivered you can see
if I drop this earnings growth number to
20% that'd be pretty bad for the stock
uh let's actually put the percent sign
in there that brings you down to about
$109 so depending on where that earnings
growth is if we're somewhere between 20
to 30% you're somewhere you're you're
creating a Baseline for the stock of
between $110 and $160 for the stock just
based on 2.5 million auto sales by 2026
do keep in mind that if we go with 30%
yes 163 is great but that's
$163 2 and A2 years out so that's
actually really bad because it gives you
a net return that is negative over the
next two years but that's our lowest
number we're not including any FSD or
Robo taxi of course we're also because
it's so speculative we're not going to
include insurance
uh or or semis right now we're going to
do that on purpose just to sort of make
sure we're conservative as much as
possible with these numbers and I think
we're already going to be very very
generous as we move to the right over
here so I don't think we need to be even
more generous we we want to be realistic
here and uh there's been a history of
being too generous for Tesla already so
now what we're going to do is we're
going to go and we're going to go throw
in FSD all right so let's assume that uh
Tesla is going to have a
37.5% take rate on their entire vehicle
Fleet keep in mind not every country is
going to use FSD uh not uh every vehicle
owner is going to pay for FSD and even
if you have a 50% take rate on new
vehicles you'll still be in like the 30s
for old Vehicles because some people
like me have already paid for full
self-driving that does not drive new
revenue for Tesla everybody who bought
FSD for 5K or $7,500 like I did you're
not contributing anymore to Tesla's
pocketbook so that does hurt Tesla so
that's going to lower the take rate
going forward but what I'm going to do
is I'm going to draw a uh take rate here
and what we're going to do is we're
going to go uh
11 million vehicles on the road we're
going to take the current Fleet and then
we'll add about uh let's see flat so
we'll go about the current Fleet if say
6 million vehicles on the road plus 1.8
flat for this year 2.2 let's say next
and we'll go 2.5 for the next so we'll
call it about 125 million vehicles on
the road so let's go
125 1 2 3 12 million vehicles on the
road uh times a 37.5% take rate time
$200 * 12 that could get us FSD revenue
of about
11 uh $25 billion that would be very
juicy that would be a very very juicy
set of Revenue here for Tesla uh I like
that that would be good let's go ahead
and paste that across the board for uh
for all of these and uh we will preserve
the formula here so we could set this
Baseline in remember we're only going to
spend about 10% on FSD so this is good
like we have very very low expenses for
FSD so the only thing we're going to put
in here is FSD the only thing I put in
FSD with $1.1 billion of expenses I can
buy plenty of h100s for that what do I
get to my my price skyrockets for Tesla
to
$276 now that would give me about a 19%
return over the next two years which is
actually pretty bullish it's pretty good
now if I do change the take rate you're
going to see a pretty uh precipitous
change here if I drop the total take
rate to about half so if I go about 18%
right here uh you're going to see that
drop to about
$217 but that still gives you a 9%
return going forward so you know what
let's go ahead and leave it at 18% we'll
leave it at 18% for all of these because
we're we want to be a little
conservative and honestly that's already
pretty good seeing uh a 10% compounded
return over the next couple years so I'm
going to leave that I kind of like that
I think we're going in the right
direction here now what we're going to
do is we're going to throw in Robo taxis
uh Robo taxi look uh the revenue over at
uh Uber for robo taxis is about $37
billion in a year $37 billion about $22
billion of that just goes to labor the
people actually driving the car so let's
assume you know you don't have people
driving the car and 50% could go to your
pocket because some of it's going to
lower the price of Revenue that you get
for robo taxis anyway so and then let's
assume initially Tesla's only to able to
do about 10% of the business that Uber
is able to do keep in mind that people
aren't really going to care if there's a
human in it or a robot in it initially
they're going to care about availability
and price if I have to pay $50 for a
robo taxi or $20 for a human driver I'm
getting the $20 one if I have to wait 30
minutes for a robo taxi I'm getting the
Uber that's going to show up in 2
minutes I don't really care that much
about using the robot tax Network I want
what's faster cheaper and more available
yes in the long term as it's more
available robot taxi should get cheaper
but that could take decades to achieve
therefore initially I'm going to throw
my Robo taxi Revenue at uh just about
10% of what Uber is so we're going to go
with just a flat number here of 37 $3.7
billion I think this is way too generous
for 2027 so I'm going to do it anyway
and we're going to run it at 50% uh of
of a um uh uh an expense ratio here so
uh $3.7 billion expenses are going to be
1.85 how does that change our math well
hold on oh I don't actually have the
revenue added in here let me add these
in uh Robo taxi wait a sec we do have
the revenue something is not right hold
on do we have the expenses in here total
expenses yep we have the total expenses
okay why is my EPS not changing folks
we have a little bit of a problem I have
made a mistake oh cuz it's 3.7 million
duh I forgot to add three zeros that
would be insignificant there we go much
better okay 3.7 billion now you get a
change you can see Robo taxi at 10% of
uber with 50% of a cost structure only
gives you $20 for the share so most of
Tesla's valuation over the next two and
a half years comes from a take rate on
FSD not on Robo taxi Robo taxi is not
really where you want to go but robotex
could actually help you sell FSD now the
real thing that could really help us
drive volume or or uh EPS growth here
would actually be bumping volumes and so
I wrote that up here that I'm going to
bump volumes to 3.1 million for the end
of 2026 keep in mind that right now
we're not even expanding to Giga meico
Giga meico hasn't broken ground yet it
hasn't broken ground because we probably
don't need these freaking vehicles at
this point because there's not enough
demand for them so you have a little bit
of an oopsy doopsy there
uh not only is giga Mexico stalled but
you also have a stalling out on uh plans
of moving to other countries I know
there's a lot of enthusiasm that yes oh
yes all of a sudden we're going to go to
Giga India and all these things meeting
all of these different presidents is
cool and fun at all but it's not
actually leading to any kind of
realization of Tesla breaking ground
anywhere because we just don't need more
manufacturing capacity right now but
let's say we do get some more
manufacturing capacity and we get to 3.1
million Vehicles whether that's
cybertruck expansion or at lower prices
or a compact vehicle or whatever it is
okay we go to 3.1 million Vehicles we
Chang nothing else now uh Tesla stock
you can see moves up to
$258 so really where where you're trying
to push Tesla's stock up is all of these
things but the biggest push absolutely
comes from that FSD take rate and how
much money we could profit off of FSD
now the problem is everything to the
right of the left column is speculative
we don't know what the FSD take rates
are anymore because Tesla doesn't
disclose them Tesla doesn't give us
forecasts or take rates on or or or
anything on uh FSD so we're totally
guessing we have absolutely no idea
what's going to happen with Robo taxi if
they just do a trial of a 100 cars
you're dreaming if you think we're going
to get $3 billion of Revenue in the next
two and a half years that would I I just
I don't really see that mostly because I
don't think Vision FSD is fully there
yet FSD is great and I think those
trials are going to help so that does
leave me leaning towards this level
right here I'm leaning towards that 217
for the next two and a half years unless
we can really show that EPS growth is
exploding that's the other thing that
can move the stock if we could get back
to EPS moving up by 50% now we could
change our PEG ratio and we could
explode the stock back to3 to $400 but
again that's going to require proving
that we could get that EPS growth right
now honestly I think 30% EPS growth is
somewhat generous because we're still
going through a bottoming out process so
how do the fundamentals Fair well the
compact model makes Tesla more
speculative however while that makes it
more speculative it also gives it
substantially more upside all we need
from Elon in this next earnings call is
some clarity on take rates pricing for
FSD and forecasts are we going to get it
probably not but but in my opinion this
is a rational fundamental analysis of
what's going on with Tesla stock not
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