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this video we need to talk about the

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banking crisis not only do we need to

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talk about the banking crisis and how

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things are actually unfolding but what

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I'd like to do is look at what the

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economist tells us about left tail risks

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along with Goldman Sachs now left at

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tail risks or lack of growth risks think

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about it like a bell curve okay if in

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the middle we're growing steady if on

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the far right we are hyperinflating and

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things are you know basically taking off

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in such a way that we have to get Paul

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volckert the left tail risk is really

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that uh oh we have damaged the economy

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too much the Federal Reserve has gone

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too far in hiking and we are going to be

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in a dirty and deep and dark recession

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well in this segment we've got two

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important pieces to cover one I'm going

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to give you the economist's conclusion

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on whether or not we are going to face a

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deep dark and dirty recession The

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Economist by the way one of my favorite

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Publications and I think they are very

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very good just know if you read The

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Economist they don't like Donald Trump

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and lean left but they have very very

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good economic Insight anyway and notice

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you can still like people who have

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different political opinions than you

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that's very important but first let's

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look at Goldman Sachs because Goldman

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Sachs has uh some some neat look or a

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nice look should I say uh into exactly

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what's going on with uh with the banking

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crisis Goldman Sachs uh obviously is uh

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a finite massive Financial partner it's

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one of the biggest 10 banks that we have

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in the country it's also a huge

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financial partner for uh for for Apple

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they back the Apple credit card so

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they're getting a lot of data on

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consumers so when Goldman Sachs tends to

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give us some insights I like to pay

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attention although I don't take

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everything at face value of what what

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these individuals like to say because uh

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they could be wrong but then again

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everybody can so but it's good to look

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at perspective So speaking of

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perspective let's hop into it right now

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there we go and let's throw up the

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coupon code there we go okay fantastic

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so first let's start here on the banking

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crisis and then we'll talk left tail

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risk so this segment was very

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interesting they say here further signs

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of stabilization in the banking system

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although money market funds continue to

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see largely institutional inflows the

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pace declined by about roughly half of

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that scene in the prior week now we've

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talked about this before this idea that

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the banking crisis is stabilizing you're

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actually seeing small Bank deposits

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level out in other words they kind of

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these were small Bank deposits then they

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fell and now you're kind of getting this

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leveling of small Bank deposits it

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really feels like the banking crisis has

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slowed or come to a halt Goldman Sachs

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here tells us that even the pace of

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money market movements has slowed we've

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talked about this yesterday about how

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discount borrow or discount window

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borrowing of the FED has also slowed and

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that really the fed's lending to bridge

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Banks via the bank term funding program

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in other words by the FED pivot although

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I don't really think that's the FED

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pivot it was just really a tool that

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they deployed is also stable and what

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they talk about here is really this this

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idea that last week we were talking

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about how this Scramble for dollars had

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gone Global remember when I came to you

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from ski resort talking about how the

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Fed was injecting liquidity via new

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daily liquidity swap operations on a

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Sunday

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uh though we expected it would be

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one-off in other words we're really

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saying look we we had this sort of

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one-off Crisis where everybody was

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freaking out but so far every indication

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of struggles is waning the demand for

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the dollar is waning internationally

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this is not to be confused with the

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Petro dollar okay I'm talking emergency

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lending dollars This Is this different

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different topic okay we can talk about

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The Disappearance of the dollar in a

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different video people keep bringing

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that up but it's just not that important

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right now uh so discount window

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borrowing Bank term funding facility

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money market movement small Bank

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movement and a dollar movement all

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relatively stable this is actually

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phenomenal uh Insight right we want to

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pay attention to stability in the

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banking crisis uh and so really the

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question then is okay well how is the

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banking crisis really going to affect us

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so let's see here

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North America United States yield

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response to near-term news potentially

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asymmetric our Baseline view is that

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credit tightening resulting from the

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current banking turmoil should be

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contained listen to this so many people

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are saying that said our economy is

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going to go into a deep dark recession

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because oh my gosh what about all of the

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credit tightening oh my gosh Kevin

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quickly change the banner to the paid

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promotion on life insurance met

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kevin.com life because everything's

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going to hell the reality is no the

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reality frankly is no the the banking

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crisis is not that big of a deal I was

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having actually a slight debate about

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this yesterday somebody was asking me

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but Kevin like big Banks they're going

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to be forced uh to to like lend less and

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I'm like

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how many times have you gone to a big

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bank for a loan in real estate uh and if

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you're not familiar with going to Big

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banks for loans you know that you don't

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go to big banks for loans you usually go

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to smaller banks for loans and then

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there's a thought oh but they're going

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to regulate smaller Banks more right no

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guess what the Biden Administration just

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talked about they talked about how we're

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not going to punish the big Banks

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because they've already been punished

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well then we're going to punish the

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small right no because that's not fair

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to the small Banks so whom are we going

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to punish them let's punish the medium

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Banks

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I kid you not you can't make this stuff

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up The Binding Administration now wants

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to punish the medium-sized Banks

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and Titan Landing standards and

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medium-sized Banks and I believe what

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this is all this is going to do is

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basically turn the medium-sized Banks

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the more closer to systemically

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important banks that 250 mil a bill

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threshold rather and you're going to see

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the medium Banks become more regulated

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like the larger Banks so we don't have

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another Silicon Valley Bank which

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basically just means the smaller banks

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are going to be like

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we just had a lot of deposit outflows

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you know what that means we're going to

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have to get more creative to bring

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customers back how about better

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mortgages business loans you want rental

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property lines of credit again what

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could we come up with to bring customers

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back they will come up with an endless

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Suite of lending products and I believe

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you already know this so this I don't

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want to sound redundant you already know

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that I am of the belief that we are in a

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Nike Swoosh style recovery that will we

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we now I believe are in the beginning of

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what will likely be a 10-year bull run

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my opinion but guess what I think is

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going to add fuel to the fire of that

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bull run it is none other than small

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Bank lending taking off to support a

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return of deposits to small Banks and

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they're going to do that by enticing you

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with with cheap loans and beautiful sexy

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loans beautiful curvy delicious loans

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that you can't get anywhere else and and

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we'll be tempted by those and drawn in

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by these delicious loans and we'll just

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have to go back to the small Banks and

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re-engage relationships and then you

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know what the small banks are going to

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do they're going to say hey look we know

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you have concerns about the FDIC limits

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of 250k but you know what look we have

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made a menu for you if you open up a

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discount and this count and discount and

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this account and this account we could

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get you up to three million dollars of

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FDIC coverage just have multiple

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different business accounts and multiple

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different LLC accounts and multiple

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different accounts of businesses and all

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of your deposits will be protected in

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fact if I was a small bank right now

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that's exactly what I would be doing if

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I was a small Bank I'd be thinking about

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exactly how I'm going to milk FDIC for

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everything it's worth I would start LLC

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formation within my bank and I would be

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like dude let's just create another LLC

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and then you're going to put 250 into

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that subsidiary and 215 to that

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subsidiary of your business and guess

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what we'll basically make it easy and

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seamless for you to always be FDIC

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Insurance in the meantime you want some

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sweet sexy delicious loans because guess

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what the big and medium Banks ain't

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going to be able to provide for you but

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we can

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it's hell yeah it's it's like the the

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game is just hilarious I I strongly

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believe in it and I actually think it's

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a good thing because it'll contribute to

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to a bull market uh and uh and yes is

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risky financing risky absolutely uh but

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worst case scenarios small

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non-systemically important Banks go

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kaput and who really cares uh and and

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the people who bank at those banks will

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will be enticed to be at those Banks

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under the promise of FDIC insurance and

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then guess who's really going to pay for

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the small Banks taking risk the medium

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and big Banks once again it's corporate

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socialism folks

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foreign

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so the banking crisis really isn't that

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bad but anyway we'll listen to this the

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credit tightening will likely not be

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large enough to push the economy into

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recession or Force the FED to ease

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aggressively to the extent markets

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appear to be anticipating even in a

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probability weighted sense why do they

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talk like this they talk so

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complicatedly basically they're saying

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yo credit crisis ain't gonna be at bad

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don't worry people are overblowing

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credit crisis that's all they needed to

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say but I'll go back to their words even

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in a proper you know what it's hoity

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toity even at a probability weight it's

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so where we ascribe increased odds to a

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recessionary outcome We Believe yields

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have declined too much who writes this

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trash this is basically saying people

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have fled to bonds despite this we do

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not think fading this pricing via

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duration shorts is particularly

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attractive in the short term in other

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words uh don't don't even though we

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don't think

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that uh even though we think that bonds

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are going to fall and rates are going to

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go up it's probably not a good idea to

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short so even though we say this don't

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bet on it

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uh by contrast restoring full confidence

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and assessing the impact of diminished

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credit provisioning could take time this

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is something we do hear about as well

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the lag that it takes to actually get

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any kind of credit tightness this is

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something we do regularly see is is this

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idea that it could take

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potentially six to 12 months but take a

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look at this banking turmoils

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distributional effects on rates the

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evolution of the options implied skew of

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risks to interest rates has largely

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mirrored our own views though with some

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differences in magnitude on the front

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end we believe the recent events

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significantly reduce the odds of a much

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higher terminal rate

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though our Baseline projection is

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roughly about 30 bips above the market

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we incr but the increase in probability

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of deep Cuts is is probably a little too

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optimistic in other words investors are

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clearly much more concerned about

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recessionary left tail risks and that's

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why investors are pricing in all of

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these Cuts but the reality is the

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economy has been incredibly resilient

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and that's where we have to get into the

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next pieces on how resilient the economy

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has been I mean consider what the

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economist says JP Morgan has some

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insight into this as well Morgan Stanley

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uh Citibank gives us some credit card

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data we'll go through all of this

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quickly here but what does The Economist

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tell us the economist I wrote this down

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here because I thought it was it was a

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fantastic piece here uh The Economist

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says the current activity index released

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by Goldman Sachs is steady so even

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through the banking crisis we haven't

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actually really seen current activity

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fall the purchaser's manager index which

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would be a leading indicator of stress

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at manufacturing steady weekly measures

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of GDP

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steady is it really maybe just that

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we're too early to see the recession at

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the moment well ipsos finds that

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American confidence in the economy

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during the banking crisis is actually

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growing

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maybe it's rigged but the economist is

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like why are people so blase and I

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actually have a very interesting idea

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about why people are so blase

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potentially because people are like dude

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we just went through War basically with

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Russia not only did we go through war

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with Russia but we went through a

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pandemic

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we made lots of money during the last

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two years so we have a lot of extra

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stability more stability than we

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previously had in 2019 that's not to say

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there still isn't poverty and there's

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still aren't food insecure people which

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is terrible and the government should do

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something about that but in many regards

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the government as a whole is relatively

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incompetent and and that's like if you

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work for the government I believe in you

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as an individual they don't believe in

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the entity totally you know in total uh

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the the sum of its parts are not greater

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than the parts itself anyway so uh point

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being uh yeah I think there's actually a

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really good chance the reason people are

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so indifferent right now is because they

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have money to just continue to spend and

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like the things that are occurring at

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this point we kind of just roll our eyes

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to it's just like okay Putin's yapping

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again all right we're over it another

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covid variant all right really like you

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expect me to get like excited or

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agitated now you think I'm gonna go sign

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up for your life insurance just because

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you mentioned another coveted variant

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Kevin that's racial thinking although I

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would like it if you try checked out

13:08

metcaven.com life I think it'd be pretty

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cool it's a paid promotion but they're

13:11

pretty awesome but anyway

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um

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really the resilience is is very very

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clear here now let's look at what JP

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Morgan has to say about this because

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they have a phenomenal piece on this as

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well let's let's throw them up on screen

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here they're one of these is is the

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better option I gotta label the stream

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yard lets you label these in a pretty

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cool way that was the Moscow piece we

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covered I can't figure it out now that's

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did you know the best example the stream

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yard right now Kevin you're screwing it

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up there we go but that's just my fault

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I'm just pushing the wrong buttons

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all right here we are so what does JP

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Morgan say recession forecasts have been

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moved back modestly and easing

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expectations have been brought forward

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the upshot of these developments is that

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recession narratives built on the view

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of private sector fragility are being

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challenged in other words we're like

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stronger I actually wrote this I go

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maybe covid and War on such War like a

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dress rehearsal for for Hard Times ahead

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right but anyway JPMorgan says the

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private sector fragility in other words

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the the weakness of the private sector

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the idea that private sector is weak is

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really being challenged and that

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downbeat near-term economic forecasts

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are becoming far more reliant on the

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emergence of disruptive Financial Market

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developments in other words everybody's

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paying so much attention to this banking

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crisis but the reality is it's just sort

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of a bearish excuse in terms of well the

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economy is still doing well so what are

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the Bears going to talk about how about

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a banking crisis now In fairness we did

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just have a banking crisis but uh whoops

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you know it wasn't that big of a deal

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you know there was actually a piece from

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a Goldman Sachs Trader

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uh I didn't save it here actually I

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saved it on my iPad let me just read

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this to you really quick I thought this

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was really interesting bull case for

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Tech if the leading crunch because of

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this credit crisis is only 25 to 50

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basis points to GDP secular growth

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technology companies benefit from gross

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growth scarcity okay in English in

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English the Goldman who is this this is

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uh Goldman Sachs Equity observations I'm

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trying to see who wrote this let me go

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to the end of it I don't think it really

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matters but it's a Goldman Sachs analyst

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is basically saying look if the credit

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crisis squeezes uh the economy by 25 to

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50 bips it probably actually benefits

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big Tech

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because they could actually hold up

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their numbers to the pain of smaller

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technology companies and they'll be able

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to more appropriately Leverage The gains

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of artificial intelligence now there are

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risks that we continue to face some form

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of wage price spiral and increasing

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labor costs but if those risks go away

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there is actually a very clear bull case

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for Tech as the economy continues to be

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so resilient especially since Global GDP

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is still on track for 3.7 percent

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annualized gains the U.S is on track for

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3.3 percent annualized gains of GDP this

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quarter that's phenomenal that's not

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even below Trend growth below Trend

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growth would be like one percent we're

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tracking at 3.3 right now so yeah maybe

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it's coming maybe the pain is coming but

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uh current strength has been very very

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well strong now JPMorgan doesn't

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actually think that current strength is

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going to stay JPMorgan thinks we are

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going to end up in a recession towards

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the end of the year JP Morgan suggests

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uh we've had some upside is surprises on

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retail sales and I thought this was

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really incredible listen to this even

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though JP Morgan is convinced we're

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going to see a recession look what they

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wrote here the gain from real

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consumption did not come from a drawdown

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in savings as strong gains in the labor

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market

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and reduced Energy prices actually

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helped support real G real disposable

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income growth on an average annualized

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rate of 6.5 percent over the past two

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quarters

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so even though corporate profits may be

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moderating they're far from falling the

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way a lot of people expect it and profit

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margins remain stable which really

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aligns with what we've seen with this

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idea from Goldman that big Tech could

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actually win in this pricing power style

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stocks could win in this we talked about

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non-bank lenders as well actually we

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didn't talk about non-bank lenders we

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talked about small Banks being a little

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bit more sort of like you know maybe if

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they're going from wearing like a

17:30

bathing suit to going to wearing a

17:31

bikini and a thong you know uh like they

17:33

got they gotta turn up the sex appeal a

17:35

little bit we expect that to happen

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they're also non-bank lenders uh whether

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that's private money whether that's

17:40

direct lenders for mortgages they

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they're the ones who usually have easy

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credit for you so this idea about you

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know uh significant stress in the in the

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financial system it just we're just not

17:51

seeing it right now uh and uh JPMorgan

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talks a little bit about how these these

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are not necessarily indicators that are

17:59

going to push us into a recession even

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though their base case is still a

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recession

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now JPMorgan also suggests here

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that uh actually this is just sort of a

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reiteration of what we just talked about

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so let's skip that let's now look at

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Morgan Stanley right here so Morgan

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Stanley had a piece on tighter credit

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and then I want to look at credit card

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data from City Credit shocks take a toll

18:20

on the economy but they take time to

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build tightening credit conditions

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should drag down Global growth in the

18:26

second half of the year and additional

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loan growth deceleration will

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potentially pressure GDP by oh my Lord a

18:35

third of a percent or I'm sorry 10 basis

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points really Morgan Stanley you think

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tighter lending standards are going to

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affect a GDP growth in the fourth

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quarter by 10 bips

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nobody cares like this is so minor even

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these estimates of and Morgan Stanley's

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being a bear in this piece they're not

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that big of a deal

18:56

our banking analysts see a meaningful

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increase in funding costs ahead so you

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haven't yet seen them which will likely

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lead to tighter lending standards slower

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loan growth and wider loan spreads than

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previously expected the the stage is now

19:09

set for an even sharper deceleration and

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credit growth over the course of the

19:13

Year this is the base case right that

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we're going to see a loan slowdown

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potentially of 11 by the fourth quarter

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of uh 2023 compared to the fourth

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quarter of 2022 uh but uh but uh I'm

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sorry this is um this is down from 11 in

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the fourth quarter the bear case would

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bring us to two percent loan growth at

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the end of 2023 compared with a baseline

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of four percent loan growth so in other

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words Morgan Stanley's saying things are

19:41

so bad loan growth will only be two

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percent at the end of the year whereas

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we want it to be four percent

19:48

even the Bears are starting to sound a

19:50

little weak here within GDP the impact

19:52

of consumption and business investment

19:54

is roughly equal they say a quicker

19:56

resolution oh look at this they actually

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hedge their bearishness they say risks

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around the Outlook are large and

20:04

two-sided a quicker resolution of

20:06

financial system troubles could see the

20:09

economy remain on solid footing yes in

20:12

line with recent payroll prints on the

20:14

other hand a more non-linear tightening

20:16

of financial conditions from Huron could

20:18

see larger and more rapid deteriorations

20:20

of growth in the labor market yet if we

20:22

see more tight loan growth but we're not

20:25

sure that we're actually going to see

20:26

this everybody's talking about it but as

20:28

NatWest told us last week the short-term

20:30

indications are far and few between that

20:33

we're actually seeing any kind of credit

20:35

stress you know the most the biggest

20:37

irony is going to be that if we end up

20:39

going through this cycle and everybody's

20:41

talking about recession everybody's

20:42

talking about this credit stress and it

20:45

just never ends up happening

20:48

uh so then we have here all told they

20:52

see a negative one percentage Point

20:53

shock to real GDP uh all told sorry a

20:57

negative one percentage Point shocked

20:59

credit growth ends up decreasing real

21:01

GDP by 20 bips okay so if you're two

21:04

percent below Trend so you're 40 lower

21:06

or 40 basis points lower on GDP it's

21:09

it's relatively a nominal impact

21:12

so Morgan Stanley does go a little bit

21:14

further on and then I want to look at

21:15

credit card data with you all so at this

21:18

time our estimates lean heavily on the

21:19

variation of data in the 1980s and 90s a

21:23

time when the banking sector was more

21:25

prevalent in terms of a source of

21:27

financing today Bank lending only

21:30

accounts for one third of all private

21:32

non-credit relative to 50 in the 1980s

21:35

okay let me translate that to English

21:37

for a moment so in English and this

21:40

relates to what we talked about at the

21:41

beginning of the video in a commercial

21:43

Jack in English today we are 20

21:47

percentage points less reliant on big

21:50

banks for Lending than we were careful

21:52

with the cable there than we were in the

21:54

1980s the last time we actually had to

21:57

worry about credit shocks what's up dude

22:00

did you just wake up you want to come

22:02

say hi to everyone

22:03

[Music]

22:05

awesome so so anyway really this is not

22:08

that big of a deal uh in comparison a uh

22:11

100 basis point increase of the FED

22:13

funds rate lowers growth by around 40

22:15

basis points that's fine uh so really

22:18

even Morgan Stanley here a bear is

22:20

hedging this idea uh that uh that maybe

22:24

it's not going to be as terribly as

22:26

expected

22:27

uh so these right here are impacts on

22:30

GDP okay let's go to the let me see if

22:34

there's anything else that I really want

22:35

to hit from this Morgan Stanley piece

22:36

they do think uh more potential layoffs

22:39

in q1 24 I find it interesting that we

22:42

continue to see a uh delay of when we're

22:45

actually going to see these layoffs it

22:47

just seems like it's always delay delay

22:49

delay everything keeps getting pushed

22:51

back because the economy continues to be

22:52

strong

22:53

uh however technically employment is

22:57

sensitive to credit tightening but as it

23:00

was during the Great Recession but

23:01

remember the Great Recession was a

23:03

global or great financial crisis are we

23:06

actually really going through a

23:07

financial crisis right now or are we

23:09

just going through dare I say transitory

23:11

inflation

23:13

we do not expect the actual implications

23:15

for drop growth to be as significant

23:17

this time around because this time is

23:19

different given Staffing shortages in

23:21

the economy will likely continue to

23:23

support labor hoarding this year as

23:26

economic growth slows further we think

23:29

limited upside in labor force

23:31

participation will keep the unemployment

23:33

rate relatively low somewhat offsetting

23:36

the significant slowing in jobs we

23:37

expect okay in English once again before

23:40

we get to credit card data Morgan

23:42

Stanley is a bear because they think

23:43

we're going to have a lot of credit

23:45

tightening which will slow GDP and

23:47

you'll have low loan growth however

23:49

they're going to hedge that by telling

23:50

you the big Banks don't even matter that

23:52

much anymore and maybe people will keep

23:55

labor hoarding which means people keep

23:56

having money and we're really just going

23:58

to end up spending through this

23:59

recession the biggest risk to all of

24:01

this is that inflation skyrockets

24:02

inflation skyrockets were screwed then

24:05

all these problems come to a halt now

24:07

let's quickly look at credit card data

24:08

so what do we have for credit card data

24:10

City's credit card data uh across 16

24:13

sub-sectors not including spending on

24:16

Services I read that and I'm like that's

24:18

stupid uh showed the weakest spending

24:21

since April of 2022. now that's great

24:24

for disinflation but potentially not

24:26

that great for economic growth so I want

24:28

to do I do want to bring that up they do

24:30

talk about though that likely the

24:32

disruption in the financial sector

24:34

briefly led to a divot in spending I

24:37

noticed in a YouTube ad uh spend that it

24:41

seemed like YouTube ad spend did a

24:42

little bit of this during the banking

24:44

crisis that there was somewhat of a

24:46

trough basically because of the banking

24:48

crisis and so it's likely that this uh

24:51

this credit card data and this weakness

24:54

uh may be temporary because of the

24:57

banking crisis though it's something

24:59

we'll want to pay attention to I'll show

25:01

you a few things in here first I'll show

25:02

you that there was an acceleration in

25:04

pet stores up 8.5 percent over the prior

25:07

week

25:08

and a decline in e-commerce e-commerce

25:12

Pure Play apparel appliances Electronics

25:15

Home Improvement and Home Furnishings

25:17

you can see the percentages on screen

25:18

here but yesterday

25:21

you can

25:22

[Music]

25:23

jack says bye you're welcome to grab a

25:26

sandwich from the refrigerator as well

25:27

the ones with Jack on it

25:30

all right so um this is the an important

25:33

chart over here because in my opinion it

25:35

just shows you the trajectory and shows

25:37

you you know that these negative changes

25:39

really are something we've seen for a

25:41

while look for example at home

25:42

improvement there was really only one

25:44

week people spent more money on Home

25:45

Improvement it was Christmas of 22.

25:47

otherwise Home Improvement has been

25:49

negative across the board you can see

25:51

that here you could see that electronic

25:53

spending has been negative across the

25:55

board so not a surprise you can see that

25:57

Pet Shops and pet foods and Supply

25:59

positive for retail spend for for the

26:03

entire last what on a weekly basis four

26:06

months three and a half months for three

26:08

and a half months pets have been

26:09

positive not a single break in that

26:11

appliance stores have pretty much been

26:13

negative the entire time and as a result

26:15

overall spend has declined uh pretty

26:19

much with the exception of the week of

26:21

Christmas over the last four months so

26:23

there is this potential idea that yes

26:26

look at this chart here this shows you

26:29

that we could could end up seeing that

26:31

earnings Crush that Morgan Stanley's

26:33

Mike Wilson keeps talking about but look

26:35

at how this chart how beautiful this is

26:36

this shows you normal growth in 2019

26:39

then you get the coveted pandemic and

26:41

you get this crazy v-shaped recovery

26:43

here where basically uh retail sales

26:45

fell around 10.7 percent uh and and then

26:48

they started increasing then the

26:51

stimulus money hit when the stimulus

26:53

money hit boy that's really what

26:54

spending skyrocketed the different

26:56

rounds of stimulus we really saw

26:59

spending balloon on a weekly basis uh

27:02

you know averaged out over here by month

27:04

in uh in 2021 and now we're getting into

27:08

that recessionary territory so yes In

27:10

fairness retail sales are going down but

27:13

it is entirely possible that the

27:15

Market's already priced in some form of

27:17

eps declines for some stocks and even if

27:20

as long as inflation goes away if we can

27:22

look through some EPS declines which are

27:25

expected to show up the market does not

27:28

necessarily have to decline solely

27:29

because of eps declines because a lot of

27:32

those may end up being priced in and we

27:34

see this leading indicator these leading

27:36

indicators from a mile away so uh very

27:39

very interesting

27:40

I'm a big fan of that uh and uh yeah

27:44

look I mean for me

27:46

again every single day what do I do I

27:51

read reports on the banking crisis on

27:54

consumers consumption on what's going on

27:57

at uh at companies earnings calls and

28:00

I'm trying to understand uh where the

28:03

risks are we've been saying for I would

28:06

say over six to eight months now there

28:08

is no wage price spiral and uh and the

28:11

inflationary data is fantastic but that

28:13

doesn't seem to be the big concern now

28:15

now the big concern seems to be the

28:16

recession uh well banking crisis briefly

28:20

but so far that's turning out to be a

28:21

nothing burger and the idea that bears

28:24

are amplifying the banking crisis as a

28:26

reason for why spending in EPS is going

28:29

to decline more is the only reasonable

28:31

argument that's left uh and and it is a

28:34

reasonable argument I will not say the

28:36

Bears do not have a point they have a

28:38

point EPS could decline substantially

28:41

more meaningfully than we expect but so

28:43

far uh with with uh labor hoarding and

28:47

uh the reports that we're getting on

28:48

earnings

28:50

things aren't looking that terrible uh

28:53

so I'm very very excited for the future

28:55

I'm very optimistic maybe I'm too

28:57

optimistic but that's my thought so

28:59

hopefully that's very insightful for you

29:01

on the banking

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