The Banking Crisis is Worsening | Economic Catastrophe.
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this video we need to talk about the
banking crisis not only do we need to
talk about the banking crisis and how
things are actually unfolding but what
I'd like to do is look at what the
economist tells us about left tail risks
along with Goldman Sachs now left at
tail risks or lack of growth risks think
about it like a bell curve okay if in
the middle we're growing steady if on
the far right we are hyperinflating and
things are you know basically taking off
in such a way that we have to get Paul
volckert the left tail risk is really
that uh oh we have damaged the economy
too much the Federal Reserve has gone
too far in hiking and we are going to be
in a dirty and deep and dark recession
well in this segment we've got two
important pieces to cover one I'm going
to give you the economist's conclusion
on whether or not we are going to face a
deep dark and dirty recession The
Economist by the way one of my favorite
Publications and I think they are very
very good just know if you read The
Economist they don't like Donald Trump
and lean left but they have very very
good economic Insight anyway and notice
you can still like people who have
different political opinions than you
that's very important but first let's
look at Goldman Sachs because Goldman
Sachs has uh some some neat look or a
nice look should I say uh into exactly
what's going on with uh with the banking
crisis Goldman Sachs uh obviously is uh
a finite massive Financial partner it's
one of the biggest 10 banks that we have
in the country it's also a huge
financial partner for uh for for Apple
they back the Apple credit card so
they're getting a lot of data on
consumers so when Goldman Sachs tends to
give us some insights I like to pay
attention although I don't take
everything at face value of what what
these individuals like to say because uh
they could be wrong but then again
everybody can so but it's good to look
at perspective So speaking of
perspective let's hop into it right now
there we go and let's throw up the
coupon code there we go okay fantastic
so first let's start here on the banking
crisis and then we'll talk left tail
risk so this segment was very
interesting they say here further signs
of stabilization in the banking system
although money market funds continue to
see largely institutional inflows the
pace declined by about roughly half of
that scene in the prior week now we've
talked about this before this idea that
the banking crisis is stabilizing you're
actually seeing small Bank deposits
level out in other words they kind of
these were small Bank deposits then they
fell and now you're kind of getting this
leveling of small Bank deposits it
really feels like the banking crisis has
slowed or come to a halt Goldman Sachs
here tells us that even the pace of
money market movements has slowed we've
talked about this yesterday about how
discount borrow or discount window
borrowing of the FED has also slowed and
that really the fed's lending to bridge
Banks via the bank term funding program
in other words by the FED pivot although
I don't really think that's the FED
pivot it was just really a tool that
they deployed is also stable and what
they talk about here is really this this
idea that last week we were talking
about how this Scramble for dollars had
gone Global remember when I came to you
from ski resort talking about how the
Fed was injecting liquidity via new
daily liquidity swap operations on a
Sunday
uh though we expected it would be
one-off in other words we're really
saying look we we had this sort of
one-off Crisis where everybody was
freaking out but so far every indication
of struggles is waning the demand for
the dollar is waning internationally
this is not to be confused with the
Petro dollar okay I'm talking emergency
lending dollars This Is this different
different topic okay we can talk about
The Disappearance of the dollar in a
different video people keep bringing
that up but it's just not that important
right now uh so discount window
borrowing Bank term funding facility
money market movement small Bank
movement and a dollar movement all
relatively stable this is actually
phenomenal uh Insight right we want to
pay attention to stability in the
banking crisis uh and so really the
question then is okay well how is the
banking crisis really going to affect us
so let's see here
North America United States yield
response to near-term news potentially
asymmetric our Baseline view is that
credit tightening resulting from the
current banking turmoil should be
contained listen to this so many people
are saying that said our economy is
going to go into a deep dark recession
because oh my gosh what about all of the
credit tightening oh my gosh Kevin
quickly change the banner to the paid
promotion on life insurance met
kevin.com life because everything's
going to hell the reality is no the
reality frankly is no the the banking
crisis is not that big of a deal I was
having actually a slight debate about
this yesterday somebody was asking me
but Kevin like big Banks they're going
to be forced uh to to like lend less and
I'm like
how many times have you gone to a big
bank for a loan in real estate uh and if
you're not familiar with going to Big
banks for loans you know that you don't
go to big banks for loans you usually go
to smaller banks for loans and then
there's a thought oh but they're going
to regulate smaller Banks more right no
guess what the Biden Administration just
talked about they talked about how we're
not going to punish the big Banks
because they've already been punished
well then we're going to punish the
small right no because that's not fair
to the small Banks so whom are we going
to punish them let's punish the medium
Banks
I kid you not you can't make this stuff
up The Binding Administration now wants
to punish the medium-sized Banks
and Titan Landing standards and
medium-sized Banks and I believe what
this is all this is going to do is
basically turn the medium-sized Banks
the more closer to systemically
important banks that 250 mil a bill
threshold rather and you're going to see
the medium Banks become more regulated
like the larger Banks so we don't have
another Silicon Valley Bank which
basically just means the smaller banks
are going to be like
we just had a lot of deposit outflows
you know what that means we're going to
have to get more creative to bring
customers back how about better
mortgages business loans you want rental
property lines of credit again what
could we come up with to bring customers
back they will come up with an endless
Suite of lending products and I believe
you already know this so this I don't
want to sound redundant you already know
that I am of the belief that we are in a
Nike Swoosh style recovery that will we
we now I believe are in the beginning of
what will likely be a 10-year bull run
my opinion but guess what I think is
going to add fuel to the fire of that
bull run it is none other than small
Bank lending taking off to support a
return of deposits to small Banks and
they're going to do that by enticing you
with with cheap loans and beautiful sexy
loans beautiful curvy delicious loans
that you can't get anywhere else and and
we'll be tempted by those and drawn in
by these delicious loans and we'll just
have to go back to the small Banks and
re-engage relationships and then you
know what the small banks are going to
do they're going to say hey look we know
you have concerns about the FDIC limits
of 250k but you know what look we have
made a menu for you if you open up a
discount and this count and discount and
this account and this account we could
get you up to three million dollars of
FDIC coverage just have multiple
different business accounts and multiple
different LLC accounts and multiple
different accounts of businesses and all
of your deposits will be protected in
fact if I was a small bank right now
that's exactly what I would be doing if
I was a small Bank I'd be thinking about
exactly how I'm going to milk FDIC for
everything it's worth I would start LLC
formation within my bank and I would be
like dude let's just create another LLC
and then you're going to put 250 into
that subsidiary and 215 to that
subsidiary of your business and guess
what we'll basically make it easy and
seamless for you to always be FDIC
Insurance in the meantime you want some
sweet sexy delicious loans because guess
what the big and medium Banks ain't
going to be able to provide for you but
we can
it's hell yeah it's it's like the the
game is just hilarious I I strongly
believe in it and I actually think it's
a good thing because it'll contribute to
to a bull market uh and uh and yes is
risky financing risky absolutely uh but
worst case scenarios small
non-systemically important Banks go
kaput and who really cares uh and and
the people who bank at those banks will
will be enticed to be at those Banks
under the promise of FDIC insurance and
then guess who's really going to pay for
the small Banks taking risk the medium
and big Banks once again it's corporate
socialism folks
foreign
so the banking crisis really isn't that
bad but anyway we'll listen to this the
credit tightening will likely not be
large enough to push the economy into
recession or Force the FED to ease
aggressively to the extent markets
appear to be anticipating even in a
probability weighted sense why do they
talk like this they talk so
complicatedly basically they're saying
yo credit crisis ain't gonna be at bad
don't worry people are overblowing
credit crisis that's all they needed to
say but I'll go back to their words even
in a proper you know what it's hoity
toity even at a probability weight it's
so where we ascribe increased odds to a
recessionary outcome We Believe yields
have declined too much who writes this
trash this is basically saying people
have fled to bonds despite this we do
not think fading this pricing via
duration shorts is particularly
attractive in the short term in other
words uh don't don't even though we
don't think
that uh even though we think that bonds
are going to fall and rates are going to
go up it's probably not a good idea to
short so even though we say this don't
bet on it
uh by contrast restoring full confidence
and assessing the impact of diminished
credit provisioning could take time this
is something we do hear about as well
the lag that it takes to actually get
any kind of credit tightness this is
something we do regularly see is is this
idea that it could take
potentially six to 12 months but take a
look at this banking turmoils
distributional effects on rates the
evolution of the options implied skew of
risks to interest rates has largely
mirrored our own views though with some
differences in magnitude on the front
end we believe the recent events
significantly reduce the odds of a much
higher terminal rate
though our Baseline projection is
roughly about 30 bips above the market
we incr but the increase in probability
of deep Cuts is is probably a little too
optimistic in other words investors are
clearly much more concerned about
recessionary left tail risks and that's
why investors are pricing in all of
these Cuts but the reality is the
economy has been incredibly resilient
and that's where we have to get into the
next pieces on how resilient the economy
has been I mean consider what the
economist says JP Morgan has some
insight into this as well Morgan Stanley
uh Citibank gives us some credit card
data we'll go through all of this
quickly here but what does The Economist
tell us the economist I wrote this down
here because I thought it was it was a
fantastic piece here uh The Economist
says the current activity index released
by Goldman Sachs is steady so even
through the banking crisis we haven't
actually really seen current activity
fall the purchaser's manager index which
would be a leading indicator of stress
at manufacturing steady weekly measures
of GDP
steady is it really maybe just that
we're too early to see the recession at
the moment well ipsos finds that
American confidence in the economy
during the banking crisis is actually
growing
maybe it's rigged but the economist is
like why are people so blase and I
actually have a very interesting idea
about why people are so blase
potentially because people are like dude
we just went through War basically with
Russia not only did we go through war
with Russia but we went through a
pandemic
we made lots of money during the last
two years so we have a lot of extra
stability more stability than we
previously had in 2019 that's not to say
there still isn't poverty and there's
still aren't food insecure people which
is terrible and the government should do
something about that but in many regards
the government as a whole is relatively
incompetent and and that's like if you
work for the government I believe in you
as an individual they don't believe in
the entity totally you know in total uh
the the sum of its parts are not greater
than the parts itself anyway so uh point
being uh yeah I think there's actually a
really good chance the reason people are
so indifferent right now is because they
have money to just continue to spend and
like the things that are occurring at
this point we kind of just roll our eyes
to it's just like okay Putin's yapping
again all right we're over it another
covid variant all right really like you
expect me to get like excited or
agitated now you think I'm gonna go sign
up for your life insurance just because
you mentioned another coveted variant
Kevin that's racial thinking although I
would like it if you try checked out
metcaven.com life I think it'd be pretty
cool it's a paid promotion but they're
pretty awesome but anyway
um
really the resilience is is very very
clear here now let's look at what JP
Morgan has to say about this because
they have a phenomenal piece on this as
well let's let's throw them up on screen
here they're one of these is is the
better option I gotta label the stream
yard lets you label these in a pretty
cool way that was the Moscow piece we
covered I can't figure it out now that's
did you know the best example the stream
yard right now Kevin you're screwing it
up there we go but that's just my fault
I'm just pushing the wrong buttons
all right here we are so what does JP
Morgan say recession forecasts have been
moved back modestly and easing
expectations have been brought forward
the upshot of these developments is that
recession narratives built on the view
of private sector fragility are being
challenged in other words we're like
stronger I actually wrote this I go
maybe covid and War on such War like a
dress rehearsal for for Hard Times ahead
right but anyway JPMorgan says the
private sector fragility in other words
the the weakness of the private sector
the idea that private sector is weak is
really being challenged and that
downbeat near-term economic forecasts
are becoming far more reliant on the
emergence of disruptive Financial Market
developments in other words everybody's
paying so much attention to this banking
crisis but the reality is it's just sort
of a bearish excuse in terms of well the
economy is still doing well so what are
the Bears going to talk about how about
a banking crisis now In fairness we did
just have a banking crisis but uh whoops
you know it wasn't that big of a deal
you know there was actually a piece from
a Goldman Sachs Trader
uh I didn't save it here actually I
saved it on my iPad let me just read
this to you really quick I thought this
was really interesting bull case for
Tech if the leading crunch because of
this credit crisis is only 25 to 50
basis points to GDP secular growth
technology companies benefit from gross
growth scarcity okay in English in
English the Goldman who is this this is
uh Goldman Sachs Equity observations I'm
trying to see who wrote this let me go
to the end of it I don't think it really
matters but it's a Goldman Sachs analyst
is basically saying look if the credit
crisis squeezes uh the economy by 25 to
50 bips it probably actually benefits
big Tech
because they could actually hold up
their numbers to the pain of smaller
technology companies and they'll be able
to more appropriately Leverage The gains
of artificial intelligence now there are
risks that we continue to face some form
of wage price spiral and increasing
labor costs but if those risks go away
there is actually a very clear bull case
for Tech as the economy continues to be
so resilient especially since Global GDP
is still on track for 3.7 percent
annualized gains the U.S is on track for
3.3 percent annualized gains of GDP this
quarter that's phenomenal that's not
even below Trend growth below Trend
growth would be like one percent we're
tracking at 3.3 right now so yeah maybe
it's coming maybe the pain is coming but
uh current strength has been very very
well strong now JPMorgan doesn't
actually think that current strength is
going to stay JPMorgan thinks we are
going to end up in a recession towards
the end of the year JP Morgan suggests
uh we've had some upside is surprises on
retail sales and I thought this was
really incredible listen to this even
though JP Morgan is convinced we're
going to see a recession look what they
wrote here the gain from real
consumption did not come from a drawdown
in savings as strong gains in the labor
market
and reduced Energy prices actually
helped support real G real disposable
income growth on an average annualized
rate of 6.5 percent over the past two
quarters
so even though corporate profits may be
moderating they're far from falling the
way a lot of people expect it and profit
margins remain stable which really
aligns with what we've seen with this
idea from Goldman that big Tech could
actually win in this pricing power style
stocks could win in this we talked about
non-bank lenders as well actually we
didn't talk about non-bank lenders we
talked about small Banks being a little
bit more sort of like you know maybe if
they're going from wearing like a
bathing suit to going to wearing a
bikini and a thong you know uh like they
got they gotta turn up the sex appeal a
little bit we expect that to happen
they're also non-bank lenders uh whether
that's private money whether that's
direct lenders for mortgages they
they're the ones who usually have easy
credit for you so this idea about you
know uh significant stress in the in the
financial system it just we're just not
seeing it right now uh and uh JPMorgan
talks a little bit about how these these
are not necessarily indicators that are
going to push us into a recession even
though their base case is still a
recession
now JPMorgan also suggests here
that uh actually this is just sort of a
reiteration of what we just talked about
so let's skip that let's now look at
Morgan Stanley right here so Morgan
Stanley had a piece on tighter credit
and then I want to look at credit card
data from City Credit shocks take a toll
on the economy but they take time to
build tightening credit conditions
should drag down Global growth in the
second half of the year and additional
loan growth deceleration will
potentially pressure GDP by oh my Lord a
third of a percent or I'm sorry 10 basis
points really Morgan Stanley you think
tighter lending standards are going to
affect a GDP growth in the fourth
quarter by 10 bips
nobody cares like this is so minor even
these estimates of and Morgan Stanley's
being a bear in this piece they're not
that big of a deal
our banking analysts see a meaningful
increase in funding costs ahead so you
haven't yet seen them which will likely
lead to tighter lending standards slower
loan growth and wider loan spreads than
previously expected the the stage is now
set for an even sharper deceleration and
credit growth over the course of the
Year this is the base case right that
we're going to see a loan slowdown
potentially of 11 by the fourth quarter
of uh 2023 compared to the fourth
quarter of 2022 uh but uh but uh I'm
sorry this is um this is down from 11 in
the fourth quarter the bear case would
bring us to two percent loan growth at
the end of 2023 compared with a baseline
of four percent loan growth so in other
words Morgan Stanley's saying things are
so bad loan growth will only be two
percent at the end of the year whereas
we want it to be four percent
even the Bears are starting to sound a
little weak here within GDP the impact
of consumption and business investment
is roughly equal they say a quicker
resolution oh look at this they actually
hedge their bearishness they say risks
around the Outlook are large and
two-sided a quicker resolution of
financial system troubles could see the
economy remain on solid footing yes in
line with recent payroll prints on the
other hand a more non-linear tightening
of financial conditions from Huron could
see larger and more rapid deteriorations
of growth in the labor market yet if we
see more tight loan growth but we're not
sure that we're actually going to see
this everybody's talking about it but as
NatWest told us last week the short-term
indications are far and few between that
we're actually seeing any kind of credit
stress you know the most the biggest
irony is going to be that if we end up
going through this cycle and everybody's
talking about recession everybody's
talking about this credit stress and it
just never ends up happening
uh so then we have here all told they
see a negative one percentage Point
shock to real GDP uh all told sorry a
negative one percentage Point shocked
credit growth ends up decreasing real
GDP by 20 bips okay so if you're two
percent below Trend so you're 40 lower
or 40 basis points lower on GDP it's
it's relatively a nominal impact
so Morgan Stanley does go a little bit
further on and then I want to look at
credit card data with you all so at this
time our estimates lean heavily on the
variation of data in the 1980s and 90s a
time when the banking sector was more
prevalent in terms of a source of
financing today Bank lending only
accounts for one third of all private
non-credit relative to 50 in the 1980s
okay let me translate that to English
for a moment so in English and this
relates to what we talked about at the
beginning of the video in a commercial
Jack in English today we are 20
percentage points less reliant on big
banks for Lending than we were careful
with the cable there than we were in the
1980s the last time we actually had to
worry about credit shocks what's up dude
did you just wake up you want to come
say hi to everyone
[Music]
awesome so so anyway really this is not
that big of a deal uh in comparison a uh
100 basis point increase of the FED
funds rate lowers growth by around 40
basis points that's fine uh so really
even Morgan Stanley here a bear is
hedging this idea uh that uh that maybe
it's not going to be as terribly as
expected
uh so these right here are impacts on
GDP okay let's go to the let me see if
there's anything else that I really want
to hit from this Morgan Stanley piece
they do think uh more potential layoffs
in q1 24 I find it interesting that we
continue to see a uh delay of when we're
actually going to see these layoffs it
just seems like it's always delay delay
delay everything keeps getting pushed
back because the economy continues to be
strong
uh however technically employment is
sensitive to credit tightening but as it
was during the Great Recession but
remember the Great Recession was a
global or great financial crisis are we
actually really going through a
financial crisis right now or are we
just going through dare I say transitory
inflation
we do not expect the actual implications
for drop growth to be as significant
this time around because this time is
different given Staffing shortages in
the economy will likely continue to
support labor hoarding this year as
economic growth slows further we think
limited upside in labor force
participation will keep the unemployment
rate relatively low somewhat offsetting
the significant slowing in jobs we
expect okay in English once again before
we get to credit card data Morgan
Stanley is a bear because they think
we're going to have a lot of credit
tightening which will slow GDP and
you'll have low loan growth however
they're going to hedge that by telling
you the big Banks don't even matter that
much anymore and maybe people will keep
labor hoarding which means people keep
having money and we're really just going
to end up spending through this
recession the biggest risk to all of
this is that inflation skyrockets
inflation skyrockets were screwed then
all these problems come to a halt now
let's quickly look at credit card data
so what do we have for credit card data
City's credit card data uh across 16
sub-sectors not including spending on
Services I read that and I'm like that's
stupid uh showed the weakest spending
since April of 2022. now that's great
for disinflation but potentially not
that great for economic growth so I want
to do I do want to bring that up they do
talk about though that likely the
disruption in the financial sector
briefly led to a divot in spending I
noticed in a YouTube ad uh spend that it
seemed like YouTube ad spend did a
little bit of this during the banking
crisis that there was somewhat of a
trough basically because of the banking
crisis and so it's likely that this uh
this credit card data and this weakness
uh may be temporary because of the
banking crisis though it's something
we'll want to pay attention to I'll show
you a few things in here first I'll show
you that there was an acceleration in
pet stores up 8.5 percent over the prior
week
and a decline in e-commerce e-commerce
Pure Play apparel appliances Electronics
Home Improvement and Home Furnishings
you can see the percentages on screen
here but yesterday
you can
[Music]
jack says bye you're welcome to grab a
sandwich from the refrigerator as well
the ones with Jack on it
all right so um this is the an important
chart over here because in my opinion it
just shows you the trajectory and shows
you you know that these negative changes
really are something we've seen for a
while look for example at home
improvement there was really only one
week people spent more money on Home
Improvement it was Christmas of 22.
otherwise Home Improvement has been
negative across the board you can see
that here you could see that electronic
spending has been negative across the
board so not a surprise you can see that
Pet Shops and pet foods and Supply
positive for retail spend for for the
entire last what on a weekly basis four
months three and a half months for three
and a half months pets have been
positive not a single break in that
appliance stores have pretty much been
negative the entire time and as a result
overall spend has declined uh pretty
much with the exception of the week of
Christmas over the last four months so
there is this potential idea that yes
look at this chart here this shows you
that we could could end up seeing that
earnings Crush that Morgan Stanley's
Mike Wilson keeps talking about but look
at how this chart how beautiful this is
this shows you normal growth in 2019
then you get the coveted pandemic and
you get this crazy v-shaped recovery
here where basically uh retail sales
fell around 10.7 percent uh and and then
they started increasing then the
stimulus money hit when the stimulus
money hit boy that's really what
spending skyrocketed the different
rounds of stimulus we really saw
spending balloon on a weekly basis uh
you know averaged out over here by month
in uh in 2021 and now we're getting into
that recessionary territory so yes In
fairness retail sales are going down but
it is entirely possible that the
Market's already priced in some form of
eps declines for some stocks and even if
as long as inflation goes away if we can
look through some EPS declines which are
expected to show up the market does not
necessarily have to decline solely
because of eps declines because a lot of
those may end up being priced in and we
see this leading indicator these leading
indicators from a mile away so uh very
very interesting
I'm a big fan of that uh and uh yeah
look I mean for me
again every single day what do I do I
read reports on the banking crisis on
consumers consumption on what's going on
at uh at companies earnings calls and
I'm trying to understand uh where the
risks are we've been saying for I would
say over six to eight months now there
is no wage price spiral and uh and the
inflationary data is fantastic but that
doesn't seem to be the big concern now
now the big concern seems to be the
recession uh well banking crisis briefly
but so far that's turning out to be a
nothing burger and the idea that bears
are amplifying the banking crisis as a
reason for why spending in EPS is going
to decline more is the only reasonable
argument that's left uh and and it is a
reasonable argument I will not say the
Bears do not have a point they have a
point EPS could decline substantially
more meaningfully than we expect but so
far uh with with uh labor hoarding and
uh the reports that we're getting on
earnings
things aren't looking that terrible uh
so I'm very very excited for the future
I'm very optimistic maybe I'm too
optimistic but that's my thought so
hopefully that's very insightful for you
on the banking
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