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What Tesla Delivery Numbers DON'T Say | Stock Projection!

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so tesla absolutely crushed delivery

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figures but that's not the big

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secret that this actually forecasts

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folks

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let's take a brief look at the tesla

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delivery figures

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and then we'll touch base on what i

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think wall street is really missing

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behind these numbers so take a peek at

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this here tesla q1 delivery figures we

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have zero production for the s and x

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that makes sense though because we have

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the massive refresh going on with the

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snx where we're changing the steering

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column to that half wheel we're changing

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the dash

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for uh the s and x we're basically

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making the s and x look like the model

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threes wise and the cyber truck

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and this is really condensing the amount

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of parts the vehicles are expected to

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use and have

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which makes sense it just makes tesla

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more efficient this is one of the

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reasons tesla is so good at having such

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a high margin remember i personally

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believe tesla's margin

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is going to settle down around 28 elon

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musk thinks they can get their gross

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vehicle margin to around 30 percent

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and kathy wood in her latest projection

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thinks that tesla could get to 40 to 50

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gross vehicle margin although she does

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include a lot of

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automation revenue from robo taxis the

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point is

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the more streamlined the production the

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better and this shutdown in quarter one

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of the s x aligns production lines is a

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huge investment

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in margin growth profit growth for tesla

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so so important but what's wall street

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missing well there are two things wall

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street's missing

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one big thing wall street is missing is

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first of all the explosive growth of the

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s and y is not just happening

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but wall street is missing the fact that

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tesla fremont and tesla shanghai

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are both tooling up and expanding to get

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to one

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million vehicles produced per year

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right now wall street believes these are

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just 500 000

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vehicle facilities and even though

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tesla's talked about their plans to

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expand

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wall street's been generally bearish on

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tesla actually getting to not just these

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production figures but having the right

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amount of demand for these vehicles

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having enough demand for people to

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actually want to buy the s

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and y without having to wait a long time

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for them

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well so far tesla has not had a demand

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issue tesla has solely had

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a production holdback and this

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blowout here of tesla beating wall

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street's estimate of combined

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deliveries of 174 000 by beating it with

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184 000 beating it by 10

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800 is not just a sign that tesla is

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ramping up their s and y production

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quickly

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which is great obviously wonderful for

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the stock uh and the company

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but it's also a massive sign that tesla

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is on the way to potentially

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beating their expectations for the year

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now publicly tesla has suggested they

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might hit

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880 to 900 000 vehicles

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but elon musk just in the last few weeks

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hinted

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that tesla might actually have an

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internal target

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of 1 million vehicles produced this year

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and if tesla can produce 1 million

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vehicles this year

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and actually deliver 1 million vehicles

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this year while still having a wait for

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more orders wall street might finally

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realize

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wow tesla is actually here to stay

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because there are still so many tesla

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doubters now many of us watching this

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might think wait they're tesla doubters

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there are

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lots of tesla doubters so many tesla

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doubters because mostly

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people get upset about the current price

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to earnings ratios at tesla

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but that's again because folks do not

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like to build in

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future potential growth prospects

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because when you look at a normal

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company we don't like doing that either

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right when a normal company like let's

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take a look at like

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for example a zoom a zoom might have

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this exponential growth during the

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pandemic

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but we expect that exponential growth to

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fall or or not maybe not necessarily

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fall

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but the rate of that growth too slow

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zoom might be

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here they might be at that inflection

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point with their growth

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and people see the same as potentially

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true at tesla they're like oh

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look tesla you've had a great couple

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year run whatever that's it you're

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getting ready to turn the corner

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it's not worth the multiple people are

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paying for you but i think that's where

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wall street is so devastatingly wrong

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in not realizing that in five years

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tesla might be producing and delivering

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four to six million vehicles which

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really puts tesla

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uh at delivering 184 000 this quarter

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it really puts tesla right here at the

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start

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of this s-curve and so when when we hear

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people complain

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ah but tesla's valuation is so high

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it's because folks think the s curve is

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coming to an

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end when we don't even realize it's just

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a beginning

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and today's numbers are a big slap in

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the face in my opinion

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to the tesla doubters and it's not wrong

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to say that hey we think tesla's going

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to miss i mean i thought tesla was going

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to miss as well

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they shut down snx production they had a

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fire i mean there were lots there were

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fewer days in q1 there were lots of

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issues in q1 q1 is historically slower

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for car sales so it's not wrong to think

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or to expect

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you know tesla might miss or whatever

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but it's wrong in my opinion not to

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invest in tesla solely because we

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believe oh my gosh but kevin the

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valuation is so high based on 2020

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price to earnings ratios and multiples

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and it's like well

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when we look at the future potential of

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tesla

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it would the biggest mistake in my

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opinion is not investing in tesla

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there's a reason tesla makes up so much

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of my portfolio and it's because

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when i project out growth at tesla

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relative to really

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any other company tesla is so young it's

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such a baby

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compared to all of the others in fact

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let's go ahead and just pull up my tesla

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spreadsheet very briefly

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look at my tesla numbers one and i'll

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give you sort of a little reminder as to

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why do i think that uh tesla earnings uh

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are are going to be so bullish in the

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future so

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just a quick little reminder look at

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this remember elon's now updated this to

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about 1 million i'm at 9.50 i'll leave

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mine for a 950 here for deliveries 20

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21.

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my projection is we should be able to

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easily get

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to 4.8 million by 2025 and that's

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produced

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and delivered i i do believe the demand

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will be there for the tesla

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especially once full self driving comes

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out there will be no competition really

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for tesla

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we want to keep an eye on competition

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like lucid and some of the other

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companies

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just to see who's going to be that

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potential number two because there will

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always be a very large

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and profitable a number or two i always

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think android and apple

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uh is just sort of our example but

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anyway uh if we go with revenue per

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vehicle 40k

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4.8 million we'll go through this a

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little quickly we get to total revenue

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of around 235

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billion no i'm not including insurance

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here robo taxi semis full self driving

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i'm basically collapsing all of that

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into the revenue per vehicle so i'm in

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my opinion i'm being conservative by

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doing that

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because i'm not including as much

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revenue as we could expect you know

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bitcoin all of these things i don't i'm

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just going to keep this very very simple

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we'll throw it in here and we will

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include though 10

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of vehicle sales towards energy uh and

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that's mostly

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because the way the way i look at that

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is i think a portion of battery

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production is going to be carved out for

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energy

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and to me i think 10 percent going

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towards energy regularly is is very

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realistic

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we'll see 19.2 billion dollars for

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energy

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that could be a little bullish but we'll

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see i do think overall i'm being very

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conservative especially with just 40k

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revenue per vehicle not even including

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again insurance uh

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really the semi-bomb robo taxis fsd uh

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all of that you collapse all of that in

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here i think that's a very conservative

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number

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we go with margin expense margin of 26

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by 2025 they should easily be at that

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uh you know 20 28 so let's go and put 72

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in here for expense 1 minus is 28

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that gives us some other expenses well

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these are sort of the expenses we've got

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expenses on leases servicings profit

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margins

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i'm going to bump the tax rate uh not

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the full 28

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we'll go to like 22 tax deductions and

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credits will help get tesla

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or help keep that down for tesla uh that

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potentially puts

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tesla at earnings per share of a round

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with a net of 19 billion by the end of

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2025

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puts them at about an earnings per share

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of around 19.5

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for the year in 2025 if these

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projections are accurate

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the price today is uh what somewhere

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around 660.

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so uh that means we're really only

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pricing at 37 times

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future uh you know price earnings ratio

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we're pricing

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today today at 660 we're being priced at

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37 times

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future earnings per share uh but i

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believe that uh this in 2025 will still

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just be the beginning

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or i wouldn't want to say the beginning

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i think s curve wife

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wise excuse me we'll probably be pricing

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somewhere around

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here you know because really i think

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we're going to start curving around 10

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million vehicles

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so 5 million 4.8 million is going to put

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us about halfway there

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we'll start curving later you know

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whether that's 2030 or 2035 that curve

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will come

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but anywho it wouldn't shock me that

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once tesla proves that we're at that 5

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million vehicles

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that we could easily be pricing at 100

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times future earnings

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we're not going to stay at 100 times

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forever you know once we start curving

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and we getting we start getting to that

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inflection point

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a tesla will mature and we'll start

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pricing for 30 to 40 times

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in the future but that's maybe when

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tesla's doing you know 10 million

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vehicles a year potentially as high as

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14

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15 million vehicles a year beating

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toyota

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uh and and then we'll be pricing well

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and then we'll also know how we get to

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price dojo

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uh you know the super computers over at

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tesla uh

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and uh we'll get to see the uh the real

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impact of full self driving

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but uh yeah at that point in the long

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future if we want to start

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looking at lower price to earnings

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multiples we will probably be at 10 to

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14 million vehicles produced and

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delivered who knows maybe that's bullish

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but if i go with a hundred at sort of a

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midpoint of 2025

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by the end of 2025 i'm gonna change my

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year 2025

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i think it would be reasonable and i

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honestly i think this is this is

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relatively low

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it'll be reasonable for tesla to be

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worth somewhere around 757

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uh and uh that would give you about a

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return on your money if you bought tesla

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shares today

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of around 21.6 now keep in mind

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uh kathy believes that this will

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actually be closer to

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3 300 by the end of 2025

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which really gives you a rate of return

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over those five years of around 37.9

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which is really incredible uh so

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obviously uh you know i i wouldn't be

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shocked if we

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we get to at least the 1700 by 2025

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uh but if tesla gets to a million this

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year we could end up seeing 1700 much

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sooner as the market starts pricing in

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more of this growth

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there will come a time though i mean if

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we hit 1700 by

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by the end of 2021 i mean at that point

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it starts getting to the point where

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you know we got to ask ourselves okay

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does it still make sense to invest in

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tesla with new money because now we're

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just pricing in

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so freaking much future growth people

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say that about today's price i don't

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believe that about today's price

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i start getting a little bit more more

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nervous when we start approaching a

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thousand and a thousand beyond

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you know 900 900 plus i mean there it

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doesn't matter 100 bucks here there

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doesn't matter so much

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but yeah those are some of my thoughts

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on tesla to me the

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earnings today uh or not the earnings

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the deliveries today

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are not about the deliveries today

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they're about what they signal

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for the path we're on to get to this

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million vehicles produced and delivered

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in 2021

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and what that means for our trajectory

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in 2025.

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thanks so much for watching hopefully

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this uh helps explain why i'm so bullish

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on tesla

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and i'm even using conservative numbers

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here thank you so much for watching and

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folks

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we'll see in the next one

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you

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