The Danger of the 2022 Recession.
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kevin here we've got to talk about the
reality of a recession when it comes to
the stock market and real estate because
historically we've always been told that
the bottom of the market is when the
federal reserve u-turns this is like
clear as day history now consider the
fact that when the federal reserve
u-turned in 1987
during the crazy stock market pain we
had towards the end of the year what
happened as soon as the fed u-turned and
set the precedent of bailing out markets
markets went up this is when the federal
reserve actually first initiated the
idea that hey if things go bad in
markets don't worry the fed will be here
to rescue you and that's exactly what
they did in the first quarter of 20 uh
2003 that is 20 003 doesn't sound as
good as like 2020 but anyway 2003 when
the federal reserve also u-turned
marking the end and bottom of the
dot-com bubble and when the federal
reserve u-turned in february of 2009
marking the bottom of the great
recession for stocks at least though
very important note about real estate
that we're going to talk about in just a
moment which is actually really really
interesting uh as well in terms of when
real estate actually bottomed
and then of course when the federal
reserve u-turned at the end of 2018 and
on march 23rd 2020 all of these marked
bottoms for the stock market and i this
information has become so crystal clear
to markets that markets are now trying
to pre-read any potential sign that the
federal reserve's job has been achieved
and it is now time for them to indeed
u-turn now we don't actually expect a
u-turn in the federal reserve's
trajectory of raising interest rates
really until like the summer of
2023 which is next year but we also know
that the
stock market tends to be forward-looking
and the stock market is looking at risks
and data and suggesting that wait a
minute ordinarily at least historically
a recession which we're now technically
in
should mean that we should have even
more pain to go in the stock market we
right now sit approximately
here which means we still potentially in
the event of actually being in a
recession
should see markets decline even more
that's because this black line
represents the decline in the stock
market
after declines begin
during drawdowns dating all the way back
to the great depression and this is an
average of all drawdowns but dating all
the way back to then and when we have a
recession we tend to see more pain for
longer and the gray line represents
market trajectory when we're not in a
recession now i know we could argue
about the definition of recession which
just makes this chart a whole lot more
complicated but what's really
interesting about why maybe this time
could be different even though the four
most dangerous words in investing are
this time is different why this time
could be slightly different at least is
that wait a minute our stock market this
time around
fell
three times as fast as the dot-com
bubble
that is something that should really
sink in see after all when we look at
this chart that says wait a minute the
market should go down more for
technically in a recession it shows us
this based on
days before and after uh bear market uh
peaks and uh or i should say bear market
troughs and bull market peaks right
before that right
so if we had three times the decline and
this is how this time could be different
right if we had a decline three times as
fast in this bear market that is this
seven month disaster rather than like a
21-month disaster or 24-month disaster
like what we saw during the dot-com
disaster and recession
then maybe this time could be different
that is the stock market has crashed
substantially faster but not only that
markets are now potentially predicting
that aha the bottom is when the fed
u-turns
and that's being priced in to happen
next summer so let's start buying the
dip
now
now some say kevin there's a reason why
the most dangerous words in investing
are this time is different and so even
though i believe it's right to be
bullish on the market and even though
i'm 95 in this market there's a
substantial danger
and that has to do with the chart
that is right
here this particular chart tells us that
payrolls
lag a recession we've known this before
we've talked about this on the channel
many times before but payrolls go down
after a recession in fact take a look at
this this is the average monthly changes
in or average monthly change the blue
box here in payrolls and what you'll see
here is there's this dotted line right
here in the middle which i just made red
that dotted line in the middle there
represents when a recession is
determined and what's fascinating is
look at all these positive payroll gains
before a recession then you have the red
line then you have another period of
positive payrolls here after the
recession is announced and you don't
actually get negative payrolls until
usually
one to three months into a recession and
this is when you get negative payrolls
but what's also substantially
interesting about this because we think
that this could lead the market lower
is the following
that the biggest
negative revisions to payrolls
are actually seen around recessions now
this is important because see the
government comes out and tells us oh
don't worry we had 500 plus thousand
jobs last month we're fine
but
the government is really bad at being
accurate
around times of recession and actually
tells us one month oh no things are
great and then the next month revises
them down and the spread between how
much they're off is really really
negative around times of recessions
those are these red circles on this
chart uh well the recessions are around
the gray bars of the chart and you could
see these peak revisions to the negative
almost always align with those gray bars
around recession times so that actually
gives us
cause for caution so we've got reason to
be bullish here okay the stock market
declined faster and maybe this time is
different because we're pre-pricing in
the fed's moves a year early that's good
right that's a reason to be bullish
but reasons to be bearish or well a the
fact that maybe this time won't be
different because those are dangerous
words and even though we might think
payrolls are fine kevin like we can't
like this this can't be that bad oh just
wait it actually can be now there's
something else that's really really
powerful here that we have to talk about
and it has to do with real estate in the
lag remember that i told you the bottom
of the market for stocks was in february
of 2009 during the great recession
the stock market started booming after
the beginning of 2009. you should have
invested in 2009 and this was still
while we were in big old pain mode
and real estate took another
two and a half years to bottom out in
fact real estate in most markets did
actually not bottom until november of
2011
and that sets up some remarkable
opportunities because during the great
recession real estate only fell at a
maximum pace of about 1.9 percent per
month real estate is incredibly slow
relative to the stock market and real
estate is driven oftentimes more by fear
rather than this pre-pricing of what the
fed is going to do next and so this is
where
when i tell you hey there's an
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most important thing that you should be
thinking to yourself right now is kevin
i'm watching a stock video why are you
talking about real estate because real
estate tends to be not get rich quick
but it's often get rich for sure and i
really believe that every single person
watching my content on youtube should be
really really really motivated to get
their butts into real estate in fact if
you need a side hustle get a real estate
license the best time to focus on making
more money is during a recession the
best time to become a real estate agent
is in a real estate crash because guess
how easy it is to sell real estate in a
bull market when i was selling real
estate in 2011 it was hard because the
market hadn't bottomed yet and i was
still living the freaking bottom
everybody i told oh i'm a real estate
agent like a trader joe's all of a
sudden they're the expert on my job
they're like oh wow that sucks and i'm
like no this is and when everybody is
telling you that's a crappy job to be in
that's the time to be in that job so
yeah we've still got risks for this
recession but hey it's up to you
depending on what you believe will this
time be different will those uh
inflationary figures actually come down
the way the bond market is predicting as
bond yields are or at least the
break-even yields are plummeting
indicating a huge head and shoulders
pattern for inflation but that gets a
little bit more complicated and we've
actually got to talk about a few more
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cpi okay cpi comes out in two days folks
today is the eighth in two days we get
cpi and we've got
a lot of concerns that this cpi is
supposed to come down but could miss
dearly look this is what the suits see
that is the wall street suits when they
look at what the cpi expectations are
and look folks the expectation is that
the month-over-month change in inflation
that again comes out 5 30 a.m i'll be
live for it on uh wednesday is going to
be 0.2
that is such a low read and these
estimates are almost always wrong if i
could draw you sort of a quick little
bell curve of what oh this ipad change
it but anyway imagine that's a bell
curve of uh usually there you go now
it's a little more bellish
of of where the economists think
inflation is going to come that would be
the midpoint inflation almost always
either comes in here or here
or like even sometimes way outside of
where the predictions are uh that's
because this is a consensus read of
essentially an average of a bunch of
economists who are like oh no we're
tracking this it's supposed to come down
a lot yeah well what if it doesn't then
we could be setting ourselves up for a
big miss and that's another reason to be
cautious and so what should we
potentially do when we have data coming
out
that that signals whether it's ppi or
cpi you know this expectation that
headlines yeah ppi is going to come down
a lot uh or that month-over-month ppis
and cpi's are going to change what
should we be doing if we do believe that
maybe this time is different but we
don't want risk well my opinion the most
important thing is staying out of debt
we have to be out of debt otherwise we
could end up with big big problems
because you don't want to get margin
called you don't want to get wiped out
in a recession because that is
guaranteed how you end up getting killed
by fomo and really never building wealth
now we do have some other good news and
bad news of course today we had the
energy bill pass the inflation reduction
act that provides over 300 billion
dollars in tax credits and incentives
for energy extending solar tax credits
to january 1st 2025
providing 7 500 tax credits for most
commercial and passenger ev vehicles as
long as much of their battery packs are
created in nafta territories like the
united states and canada and mexico
which i'm sure manufacturers will
finagle to make sure that we can get the
tax credit that is offered up to forty
thousand dollar tax credits for
commercial vehicles although that gets a
little bit more nuanced kamala harris
had to come in to break this tie because
republicans and democrats were fighting
so much i mean you even had wharton that
came out uh which i tweeted about you
should follow me on twitter at real meat
kevin by the way but i tweeted about
this wharton came out and said that well
it kind of looks like the inflationary
impacts of the inflation reduction act
are uh indistinguishable from zero
that's literally right what they wrote
here is uh not statistically different
from zero the inflationary impacts but
oh well i mean leave it to the
government to say they're going to do
something great and really have no
impact at all but then again that's the
way it works medicare is going to be
able to negotiate drug costs for the
first time in america which should lead
to some kind of savings for our
government 80 billion dollars more for
the irs one percent excise on stock
buybacks which is interesting you've got
stocks like enphase going up and tesla
going up on uh news of this energy bill
passing the inflation reduction act but
emphasis is a big fan of doing stock
buybacks now they're gonna have to pay
those one percent uh excise taxes you
know
once this actually goes into effect
that'll take some time 15 corporate
minimum tax and what else do we get this
morning we got
and this is why you got to be careful
playing with earnings because playing
with earnings is playing with fire
playing with margin is doubling up that
fire palantir missed and so did nvidia
nvidia blaming a gaming slowdown which
probably related to crypto down eight
percent palantir down as much as 16
percent uh also big miss on earnings
this comes after palantir was always a
company where peter thiel told us hey we
will not have a sales team and now
they're hiring salespeople like crazy
and they also bragged about how last
week they were planning on expanding
their workforce by about 30 percent
going into a recession which seemed a
little odd leading a lot of folks to
believe that pallentier would run but we
did miss but there's the belief that the
worst might now be behind us for
palantir and nvidia folks thank you so
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investing and folks we'll see in the
next one bye
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