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Why Tesla Stock is Cheap | TSLA to $6,000 [Full Details].

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hey everyone me kevin here in this video

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i'm going to explain why i'm so freaking

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bullish on tesla that i have now 14 000

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shares of tesla 47 of my portfolio is in

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tesla i've got a few scenarios here i

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want to run through with you and you're

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gonna see ah okay that's how we're

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coming up with a potential valuation for

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tesla because right now when you look at

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tesla with traditional means it feels

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overvalued it feels pricey but it's very

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difficult to value tesla at today's

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metrics or matrices i don't even know if

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that's a word but anyway because what

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are we waiting for we're waiting for

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batteries we're waiting for chips we're

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waiting for factory capacity we're in a

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phase of hurry up and wait right

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and uh that is unfortunate because it

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does slow down growth but it is a

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blessing because it lets me keep buying

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into tesla cheaper and cheaper as a

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people don't realize the long run

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potential of tesla and look i could be

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wrong i'm just some dude on the internet

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but i am so bullish on tesla and i'm so

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excited to share some of these numbers

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with you so i'm going to keep this

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simple we're going to go through uh my

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bowl case

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my base case

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what wall street's consensus estimate is

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and how that compares and then we're

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going to do a gigawatt comparison and

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that's going to be special gigawatt

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[laughter] okay so the easiest way to do

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this

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is just start with production

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ramp rate and so this is my projection

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for the tesla ramp rate for how many

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vehicles they can deliver in 2020 we

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delivered approximately 500 000 vehicles

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i think that's going to go up to 950 000

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in 2021.

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when giga berlin austin fremont and

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shanghai are at full capacity each of

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these facilities will be able

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fully capable of producing 1 million

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vehicles each that means by 2024 we

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should have a marker of 4 million

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vehicles if we produce or create two

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more facilities by 2025 and we start

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scaling those i believe we could get to

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6 million in 2025 uh or at least 2 7 7.2

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million by 2026 and so on all the way up

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to my bullish thesis of 16 million cars

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by 2030. now that's crazy because how

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does that compare to the rest of the

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world well look at this

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toyota in 2020 delivered uh 14.3

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of the world's market share or of of the

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world's vehicles delivered which of 74

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million vehicles delivered toyota

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delivered about 10.6

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million vehicles so saying that tesla

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might deliver 16 million vehicles in

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2030 is assuming that tesla beats

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toyota's market share it's very very

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very bullish and remember this is the

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bull thesis so we're going to go to the

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more like nuanced theses in just a

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moment and kind of see what tesla's

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projections might be as well but if we

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go with a bullish thesis here of 16

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million cars by 2030 and the easiest way

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to assume robo taxi revenue full

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self-driving revenue is in my opinion

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just to lump this into the car's revenue

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because otherwise we're making way too

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many projections over how robo taxis

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gonna be monetized and full self-driving

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so i'm gonna say 42 000 per vehicle

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fully monetizing autonomy so if it's a

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200 000 semi or a 20 000 car that tesla

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ends up selling i think the average

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selling price is going to be around 42

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000 in my bullish thesis

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this is then simple math we get we

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multiply to get uh revenues we have a

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general or generally around 2.7 to 3

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percent of cars that get leased at tesla

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we get services that are usually around

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10 i'm bumping that to 12 in my bullish

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thesis here uh there's going to be a

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limitation or a risk factor for

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batteries obviously for this expansion

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but my bullish thesis is tesla easily

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getting to over 130 billion dollars in

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energy revenue solar batteries solar

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roofs mega packs uh endless endless

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opportunities for tesla and so i think

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tesla's energy division will be 20 plus

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percent of their car division in 2030.

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insurance elon musk thinks insurance

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could be as much as 25 of the value of

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the company going with 15 of the value

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of revenue of vehicles i'm worried this

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might be a little bit too bullish

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so we'll see and obviously the further

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you project out the more risky things

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get now including semi's robo taxi full

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self-driving again in vehicle revenue

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we'll talk about consensus estimates now

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in a moment not so important right now

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but in my opinion that brings tesla to

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and this who knows i mean this could be

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2030 i don't know i don't think it's

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going to be 2029 maybe it ends up being

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2032 but this is coming in my opinion

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trillion dollar

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revenue for tesla

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if tesla has a trillion dollars in

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revenue and we get to not even as

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bullish as elon is with his margin but

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we get to a 28 margin or works an

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expense margin of 72 on vehicles

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we could end up

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using regular margins that we see for

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some of these other items and 10 in

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operating expenses which might end up

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being a little bit high

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we would end up getting to a profit for

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tesla somewhere around 86 billion

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dollars

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take out about 20 for taxes even if

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biden jacks this up to 28 we'll still

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have credits and loopholes and ways of

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of uh lowering our effective tax rate

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depreciation and so on i would expect an

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average tax rate of around 20

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that would leave us a net income of

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around 68.7 billion divided by shares

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outstanding currently obviously that is

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going to increase in the future

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so that that is something to keep in

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mind is there will be more shares

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outstanding in the future

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uh so we'll see how that ramps up but if

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we just use the shares outstanding that

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we have today we'll get to about an

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earnings per share of around 61

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with a price today at 700

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this means we're only pricing tesla at

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about 11 times forward earnings

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in 2030 uh the dollars we're paying

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today is 11 times forward earnings and

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if uh tesla ends up with a p e ratio of

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100 in the future would it may not

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a hundred is is really growth dependent

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i mean we would still have to be growing

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like crazy like if if we go over here to

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get a hundred p e ratio we would barely

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have to be starting to see that curve of

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the s curve and what i mean by that like

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is if we put in let's say 17

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million right here see we start getting

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that s curve that flattening if we start

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getting that 100 is going to start being

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a little bit rich so this could be a

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little bullish but

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i am very bullish on tesla okay so i'm

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being transparent about my bias here

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but anyway in that case uh at 61 times

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earn it or at 61 dollars in earnings per

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share we could be somewhere around a six

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thousand dollar price

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in 2030 for tesla which if you invested

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today at 700 would be an approximately

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twenty four point two percent annual

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compounded rate of return that's every

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year if you buy today at twenty seven at

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700 if this is true every year you'd be

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printing tennies of about 24 on this

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stock uh which is pretty freaking

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incredible uh so this is a bullish

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thesis and i realize this is very

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bullish so i have to sort of dampen my

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expectations a little bit and therefore

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i have a base case scenario my base case

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scenario basically what i do is i assume

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tesla only gets to 15 market share by

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2030 and i also uh because of that scale

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down their energy and insurance revenues

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and their leases and the others i keep

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margin largely the same

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and everything else pretty much the same

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except i only use

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70 times earnings in the future so we

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have a lower eps of 45

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and i project out at 70 times in the

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future to get to about 3 200 per share

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at a future value in 2030 which would

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give me an annual compounded rate of

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return of 16.44

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but let's see how my projections here

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compare to wall street projections

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because keep in mind my crazy bull

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thesis for tesla

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gives tesla a market cap of almost seven

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trillion dollars i know that sounds

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insane but then again i'm also the dude

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who has 47 of their money in tesla stock

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so i better be freaking bullish

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[laughter]

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so yeah six thousand dollar price target

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seven thousand dollar or seven trillion

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dollar market cap either i've lost my

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mind

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or i'm gonna be close

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and even if i shoot for the moon and

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miss a little bit i'm still going to

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have some beautiful tundies coming out

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of the oven okay

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but anyway

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so my base case scenario just lowers

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their penetration worldwide but it's

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still bullish 15 that's still more than

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toyota's doing today

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all right let's look at what wall street

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is projecting

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wall street is projecting i'm i

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backwards engineered this a little bit

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so let me start with what they thought

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with or started with wall street is

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projecting a consensus estimate of 389

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billion dollars in total revenues for

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2030 and then they start tapering off

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after 2030 they actually think

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tesla revenues will start declining in

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31 32 and and you won't see growth

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anymore you'll actually see shrinkage

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and nobody likes to see shrinkage nobody

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but anyway

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if we kind of reverse engineer how we

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could get to this consensus which by the

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way wall street estimates range from

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about 250 billion dollars in revenue in

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2030 up to 600 billion in 2030 so what a

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trillion dollars in revenue

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in my bulk basis i'm pretty high i'm

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potentially a little overly bullish in

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my base case scenario i'm also high i

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put them at 754 billion but that's

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because i think wall street

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misunderstands tesla and i don't agree

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with other people's estimates so anyway

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if we go with wall street's numbers so

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this is wall street's consensus estimate

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and we give them a 70 times earnings

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multiple in the future

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this would be about a 1700 stock which

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if you buy it today at 700 gives you

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about a 9.24 return you could probably

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if this ended up being true you probably

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do better elsewhere you know start with

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a smaller company but

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i want to know what tesla's thinking so

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in order to know what tesla's thinking

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is i want to do some gigawatt math gig

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what

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[laughter] but before we talk about

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gigawatts so gigawatt projections

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actually come directly from tesla's

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battery day and elon musk thinks that

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tesla is going to produce

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three

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terawatts of power batteries which

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batteries is the threshold for

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everything at tesla if i put in an elon

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discount which basically means i don't

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believe that elon's going to get to

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three terawatts and i take off 20

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and they only get to 2.4 terawatts or

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2400 gigawatts then they will have 2.4

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billion kilowatts of energy in battery

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packs

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if i give the energy division half that

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and we sell those energy products at 70

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per kilowatt hour in 2030 which i think

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is likely maybe it'll even go down to 50

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we'll see that's only about 84 billion

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dollars of energy revenue which is

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actually less bullish than i am in my

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bull and base case in both of them it's

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less bullish

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so this is important to keep in mind

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because this could be tesla's projection

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here right regarding gigawatts and it

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depends on how much money we get per

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kilowatt if this is 90 obviously it

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looks a lot more beautiful if the cars

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get the other half and we put about an

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85 kilowatt hour on average pack in each

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car some cars are going to be 30 40 some

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smaller cars inexpensive city cars and

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like china and india some like the semi

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truck are going to be you know 400

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kilowatt hour packs right anyway if we

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uh do that we've got about 14 million

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cars which lines up with my it's kind of

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between my bowl and base case right my

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bowl is 16 my base is 12 million cars

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and 20 30. with gigawatts here half

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going to energy and half going to cars

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we're at 14 million cars for battery

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capacity to be able to produce

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and then if we just skip all the other

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stuff everything else being consistent

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we also use a 70 times earnings

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multiplier not a hundred times like in

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my bold case because that means we're

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starting to see that s curve and we're

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not going to see those bullish

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projections again which that 70 could

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even be high okay so there are risks in

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this

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anyway that would give us an eps of

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about 44 which means a reasonable price

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for tesla could be uh just over three

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thousand dollars in 2030 which actually

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aligns roughly with my base case

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projection so my base case projection is

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a price of thirty two hundred dollars

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for tesla uh based on tesla's numbers we

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should also be at about three thousand

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dollars per share in 2030 which would

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give you a return on your money of about

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16.03 compounded every single freaking

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years every single year for the next 10

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years

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uh if you buy it at 700 per share now uh

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yes i realize i am very highly bullish

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on tesla so consider the risk factors

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battery technology expanding factories

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competition what's lucid going to do

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what's neo going to do those are all

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very real concerns but if you like the

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way that i do my fundamental analysis i

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take a little bit of a different

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approach to fundamental analysis i don't

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like using discounted cash flow on these

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high growth companies because it becomes

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a little bit more complicated but this

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is kind of doing a discounted cash flow

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in reverse it's accomplishing the same

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thing in my opinion in a more intuitive

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way so any if you like the way i do

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fundamental analysis consider my program

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down below on stocks in the psychology

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of money and you'll learn exactly how i

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do fundamental analysis thank you very

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much for watching hopefully you

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appreciated this breakdown of my tesla

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projections and folks we'll see in the

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next

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[music]

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you

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