The Trump Trade War *JUST* Flipped EVEN WORSE.
FULL TRANSCRIPT
It's official. We have just had the
ninth worst week in the S&P 500 since
World War II, only bested by weeks like
those around Black Monday 1987, the
dotcom bubble bursting, the great
financial crisis, COVID, all really bad
times. At the same time, the spread
between the twos and the tens just hit
56. Spoiler alert, that's an early
recession indicator for you. when that
spread between the two rises above 50
into that 50 to 90 range. It's the first
time we have seen it since before CO.
It's the first time we've hit that kind
of spread. It's usually a sign of an
imminent start to a recession. And I
don't want to cause any alarm. That's
just statistically and historically what
has been true. Maybe this time is
different. At the same time, you have
some reports that hedge funds are
offloading quote all or most of their
holdings in stocks as volatility is
pushing them away from the US stock
market. Now, some of that could be
because hedge funds like using margin
and then, you know, if they end up
getting screwed being caught offside,
well, then they lose lots of money and
they lose their jobs or their companies.
But at the same time as this, China is
conducting an 11 billion US dollar
market stabilization activity in China
to help stabilize their stock market
because of the damage this trade war is
causing. So you can see this is starting
to really get intense where people are
really making longerterm decisions based
on the shorter term movements of well
the tariff debuckle. Now that said,
Barclay's just released a piece
suggesting that you should not catch a
falling knife. And not only are we going
to talk about this Barclay's falling
knife piece, but we're also going to
talk about some massive shifts in China.
Because as you remember, when you come
to this channel, I'm going to give you
perspective you're not going to hear
somewhere else. A lot of people on the
internet today are suggesting, "Oh,
China is desperate to make a deal with
us." In this video, you get a little bit
of a different perspective and I'll give
you some evidence as to why I have some
thoughts regarding China as well as this
Barclay's recession piece. But first, I
want to make a quick little mention.
This morning in the course member live
stream when the market opened up, I
mentioned to everybody that I would be
really cautious of the bounce that we're
seeing in markets because I expect it's
going to get faded. I don't think upside
is good. I'll show you the clip in just
a moment. that is I didn't think upside
was good on the day today. I actually
thought that not only was there a
greater chance that stocks would get
faded today, but I actually advocated
for selling call options because the
volatility is so high. I have not seen
the volatility this high in some stock
option premiums in a while. I mean, you
can make like 13 or 14% on some sold
call options for 70 days. That is
phenomenal volatility. I'll show you the
clip in just a moment, but look at this.
If you go look at what happened to the
Q's, we were up over
3% and we ended up fading all the way
down to negative 1.8%. That's almost a
5% move in the NASDAQ 100 intraday. That
is a shocking move. Now, let me go ahead
and play the clip for you. And just
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here's the clip so you can get a glance.
I don't want you to think like a retail
investor right now. I want you to think
like a money manager who doesn't want to
get sued in the next crash. I want you
to think like an institution uh or a
hedge fund. take the tactical rally and
fade it. Because what has actually
changed in tariffs?
Nothing. What
has psychologically changed? The words
coming out of Bessant's mouth. Now in
pre-market, we've moved up to our next
line set 438. But I don't have anything
for us past this. So I think it's a I
think it's a a hard lift to say, "Oh,
yeah. Okay. Today we got to go calls on
QQQ. Uh you know because a you're going
into no man's land and b you're already
extended up 36. So from a trading point
of view this is a very undesirable call
position now. What I could consider
would be sold options right now. Look
just because that was exactly what ended
up happening does not mean I'm always
right. And I want you to know my goal is
to share perspective with you and with
as much factual information as possible.
I do want to mention that sometimes this
pisses people off. For example, here is
a tweet that I made on July 25th where I
said, "Sorry, Tom Lee. Rotating into
small caps just as recession as
recession risks rise is fully rword, you
know, with some censorship here." Now,
micro to macro says the only thing that
is the rword is actually meet Kevin.
basically saying the Russell 2000 is
doing just fine. Well, since these
tweets, the Russell 2000 is down over
22%. Fundst strat in his fund, in other
words, Tom's fund, has lost over
20% in his fund for his clients that he
charges a large management fee for since
just the election. It's not even a
year-over-year performance. It's since
the election. Now, it's not my fault.
Some people don't position for
protecting themselves when there's
evidence of a recession coming.
Ultimately, that is everybody's own
desiraability and their own moves.
Everybody has to take responsibility for
their own decisions. But I want you as
an investor to consider what Barclays is
telling you in their global macro
thoughts. Don't catch a falling knife
because I understand how desirable it is
to be bullish and to buy the dip. In
fact, I want you to remember that the
whole goal of Wall Street is to get you
to put money in with their fund. That's
Wall Street's
goal. Wall Street does not want you to
sell. Wall Street makes money off of
you, whether the market's going up or
down. And the more bullish you are, the
more people invest with you. So
remember, that is a risk factor. Now,
what is Barclays telling you? Barlays
interestingly has a research piece out
suggesting that we now expect recessions
in both the US and Euro era area. This
by the way comes just as JP Morgan is
convinced we are going to have a
recession this year and JP Morgan says
the Russell 2000 small cap index is
showing indications with a 79% certainty
that we are going into recession. So in
other words small caps say 79% chance of
recession. JP Morgan says yes recession.
And now Barclays is joining the yes
recession camp. Goldman Sachs is at
about a 65% chance of recession. But I
want you to look at some of the
commentary they give because I do think
they give some really good insight here.
They suggest that they do not expect a
really quick walk back on tariffs and
that the president has emphasized
tariffs will be permanent. He feels that
if companies see tariffs as temporary,
they will not move production back to
America. Okay, there's a lot to
unpackage here. And a lot of what there
is to unpackage actually goes into why I
made the claim this morning that we were
probably going to fade. A lot of folks
sometimes they hear me say these things
and they're like, "Wait a minute,
Kevin." Like, "Did you just guess that
the market was going to fade this
morning?" Like, why would you say in
your course member live stream the
market's going to fade? And then crap,
it literally faded by 5% on the cues.
Huge move, by the way. Why would you
make that decision?
The reason I had that opinion was
because what happened yesterday was a
rebranding. Donald Trump is a salesman.
He knows how to market. The problem with
this is what they found is they've
changed the messaging on tariffs to try
to reduce some of the damage of tariffs,
but not the actual intentions. This is a
big mistake in my opinion. See, what's
happening is Howard Lutnik from the
Commerce Department, which many people
are now calling Nutlick because he's a
yes man or Slutnik because he never says
no. These are very inappropriate. You
should not say these things. Lutnik has
actually been replaced by Treasury
Secretary Besson. See, Political has a
piece which appears to be accurate that
Besset flew to Florida to lobby Trump on
tariffs. And basically the article talks
about how Besson is trying to smooth
over the tone of how they're describing
tariffs to the American people and how
they're trying to sell tariffs to
Americans. The problem with this is
Steve Besson himself says that he
expects tariffs to be a melting ice
cube. In other words, it's going to take
a while, but eventually we're going to
use tariffs to negotiate better trade
deals with other countries and bring
jobs back to America. Besson is
convinced that fired federal workers,
imagine this, like imagine DMV workers
doing this. Okay, just as an example,
but fired federal workers will end up
taking jobs in American
factories, right? Because we see that
happening. No, we don't see that
happening. But the point is Bessant's
messaging is, hey, we're going to
negotiate to get that manufacturing done
in America. That sounds positive.
Lutnik's messaging is, "We're not
negotiating with anyone. We want our
tariffs." That sounds blunt and harsh.
All they've done is remarketed,
rebranded how they're talking about the
tariffs. They have not actually changed
the fundamental basis of tariffs. And
so, when I was in the course member live
stream this morning with thousands of
you, I said,
"Listen, I am of the mindset that this
rebranding will end up getting seen.
People will read it like a book and go,
wait, nothing's actually changed. We
haven't made a deal with Vietnam. We
haven't made a deal with Taiwan. We've
had talks. We've had concepts of talk
with these countries, but we don't
actually have deals. If anything, things
are worsening in China. Don't even get
me started on China. We still have to
get through the Barclays recession piece
here. But don't even get me started with
China because that's that's going to be
a big one here in just a moment. But a
lot of this relates like this sounds
very Trumpian what I'm about to show
you. There is a transcript about a
discussion between Gary Cohen and Donald
Trump. Now, I don't know if it's
accurate or if it's true, but let me
just put it this way. It sounds like
Donald Trump. Let me read it to you
because I think it's going to give you a
little bit more color into the mind of
Donald Trump. It says, Gary Cohen, Mr.
President, can I show you this? Cohen
fanned out the pages of data in front of
the president. See, the biggest levers
of jobs, people leaving voluntarily, was
from manufacturing. In other words,
where were people leaving workforces in
America? They were leaving out of
manufacturing. They didn't want
manufacturing jobs. Donald Trump says,
"I don't get it." Cohen tried to
explain. I could sit in the nice office
with air conditioning and a desk, or I
could stand on my feet for 8 hours a
day. Which one do you do for the same
pay? People don't want to stand in front
of a 2,000 degree blast furnace. People
don't want to go into coal mines and get
a black lung for the same dollar or the
equivalent dollar. They choose to do
something else. Customer service, IP
work, legal work, accounting work,
artificial intelligence, development,
doesn't
matter. Trump wasn't buying it. Several
times, Conan asked, "Hey, Mr. President,
why do you have these views?" Trump
replied, "I just do. I've had these
views for 30
years. Gary replies, that doesn't mean
they're right. I had the view for 15
years I could play professional
football. It doesn't mean I was right.
Now, this is really interesting coming
uh from Gary Con. What you find is the
stubbornness of Donald Trump is probably
exactly what's happening in the White
House today. Now, people say, "Oh, come
on. You know, he's a reasonable man.
He's not going to be stubborn. Really, I
don't know about that because even Elon
Musk failed. And Elon Musk is pretty
damn convincing. He's got a pocketbook.
Look at this. Musk made direct appeals
to Trump to reverse sweeping new tariffs
and failed. This, by the way, was before
Liberation Day. I'm not going to bore
you with the entire story. It's obvious
there was a failure. This is why
Starlink and Tesla are begging for
exemptions uh from tariffs on critical
parts. For example, Starlink wants is
begging for exemptions on Chinese
machines so they can continue to
manufacture the Starlink parts or the
satellite parts that they critically
need in their business. You have to
think about it this way.
SpaceX or you know the Starlink
division, they might pay a million
dollars for a machine, let's just say,
but with that machine that they spend a
million dollars on in China, they might
be able to do $10 million of business in
the United States. What's their trade
deficit? That company, what is in that
example, what is their trade deficit
with China? They bought a billion
dollars of machines in China and then
sold $10 million worth of products in
America. Well, technically their trade
deficit with China is $1 million because
China didn't buy any of those star-like
units, but China enabled the selling of
$10 million of revenue or maybe even a
lot more in America through that quote
unquote trade deficit. But Donald Trump
doesn't understand that logic. See,
Donald Trump is of the mindset that a
trade surplus or trade deficit is like a
profit and loss statement. He said it
himself. He said that, hey, what a trade
surplus is is basically like a P&L and I
want to treat it like a P&L. In other
words, I want it to be positive. This is
what he told us yesterday in his press
conference. The problem with that, Mr.
President, is it's not logical. It
doesn't make sense because when you
consider the example I just gave, you
could actually import from China and do
a lot more for the economy or global
growth and have a technical trade
deficit, but still be promoting the
economy in a massive manner. See, Donald
Trump sees a trade deficit as a loss.
The reality is it's not a loss.
And as a result of his opinion that
there's a loss, he's refusing to
negotiate with countries unless they
give him even more than 000. China, the
European Union, and other countries were
all offering trade deals well before
Donald Trump
suggested liberation day, but he
rejected all of those in favor of well
liberation day. And so well, here we
are. And so this is where we go into
this Barclay's piece and we look and we
see Donald Trump feels that if companies
see these tariffs as temporary, they
will not move production back. That's
where we left off on the Barclays piece.
And that's exactly what's happening.
Donald Trump is convinced through a
misconceived notion that we must have a
trade surplus with every country and
we're going to sell them something
whether they like it or
not. This is being considered the
reordering of global trade.
And even countries that have no tariffs
against us, like Singapore, are still
getting blanket tariffs because Donald
Trump wants more than zero zero.
See, we had these positive suggestions
over the last 48 hours that Vietnam
would be a leader in global trade deals.
But White House officials subsequently
cautioned that did not mean the US would
drop tariffs on Vietnam. That there
might still be permanent tariffs against
other countries that do strike deals
with us and deals will actually look
like we're still going to tariff you,
but we want us to do more for you. Well,
what we're really doing here is
rebuilding the entire existing global
trade system. And it's no surprise that
Barclays is now suggesting that the
president is basically toying with a
recession. In fact, if you just go to
the bottom over here for a moment, you
can see Barclays tells you the
following. Barclay says, "We expect the
United States to be in a recession
between Q4 2024 and Q4 2025 all year.
They expect the Euro zone will be in a
recession during that time and they
expect China's growth will not be 5% but
rather it will be 3%. They think global
growth is likely to be near recessionary
levels in the coming quarters. They also
suggest that they like bonds as an
investment. Uh and they tell us that
they think the earnings per share impact
of tariffs and retalatory measures are
likely to be around 10%.
Now, what's interesting is if you just
consider 10% and you take a stock that's
trading for 20 times, 20 times, let's
say $10 of EPS is $200. That's the stock
value. Okay, very simple, the stock
valuation 101. But the problem is it's
not just EPS that gets hit. It's the
valuation multiple. So instead of a 20x,
we might be at a 16x. So now you take
EPS down and you take the multiple down
another four points, right? So, if EPS
instead of
$10 is actually, let's say, $9 and we're
multiplying at $160, that stock is now
$144 instead of $200, which is a 28%
drop. And that's potentially just the
beginning of the story because you could
have compression much more than that.
And EPS declines could be much more
sizable in a recession. Something else
to keep in mind is that the labor market
is holding up and is being cheered by
Donald Trump. But this is yet another
mistake because as we know and I've
beaten this into everyone who watches my
channel's mind, the labor market is the
most lagging indicator of recession
ever. Barclays actually does a great job
here. They indicate that in 2009, let me
see if I can find it. In 2009, the labor
market here has peaked at the end of
2009 at 10%.
But the joblessness rate in September of
2008, right around the time of the
Lehman Brothers collapse, was just 6.1%.
In other words, the shock element that
occurs in an economy doesn't necessarily
align with when you get bad unemployment
numbers. You usually get bad
unemployment numbers after the shock
event. And now that the 102 spread is
over 50, we are ready and primed for a
shock. And that's what's really scary is
we think the tariff event was a shock.
The tariff event just lit the fire of
the filled spilled fuel of the problems
that our economy had going into this.
Right? Donald Trump didn't solely create
the conditions for a rough economy. You
know, we didn't know we were going to
have crazy tariffs like this last July.
We were looking at a weakening labor
market and the fact that this economy is
not going to be resilient in the face of
a bad shock. And so it's no surprise
that now all of a sudden you're seeing
high yield spreads moving 93 basis
points which has only ever happened
during major crises. I mean look at the
spike over here. We're still not at some
of the peaks of some of the other credit
events but credit spreads are finally
expanding. The largest credit spread
expansion in 17 months and this trend is
just beginning. We are just at the
beginning of this credit
event. Don't even look at what's
happening in like the CLO market right
now. the CLLO market, the the
collateralized loan obligation. Uh this
is different from credit default swap
CDOS. The CLLO market uh is is seeing
massive outflows because people don't
want exposure to the loans of
corporations that you know could be
small caps at risk of bankruptcy. I
mean, this makes logical sense, but the
problem is when the valuations of CLOS's
go down, the ability for companies to
get financing goes down because
companies rely on being able to get
debt, access to debt from banks, capital
from banks, but banks want to sell that
debt. Let me let me clear this up. Okay,
so see this cup right here? This is a
pile of
trash. See this wrapper? This is a loan
from a crappy small cap company that's
too overleveraged. Mind you, by the way,
at House Hack, there's a reason why we
have zero bank debt because we are very
conservative because we think the
biggest money is made during
recessionary times. And that's why I
think a lot of people are investing with
us right now. You can go check us out
over at househack.com because we're
probably a really good counteryclical
play and I have control over the
business and I'm really optimistic about
it. But anyway, so here is a pile of
crap or a bundle of crap. We could call
them tanches of craps. Boy, doesn't that
sound familiar? Here is a crappy loan
that is declining in value because the
market is selling these CLLO CLLLOs's
off like crazy. So, a new business comes
along and says, "Hey, I want a loan."
The bank
goes, "Smells like crap. Looks like
crap. We'll just put it in the bundle of
crap and hope it sells. If nobody buys
it, the bank is there like this. Oh,
We're holding all the crap.
Please, somebody buy the crap. And the
more the banks are holding crap that
pops up out of nowhere, the more the
banks are like, "Yeah, sorry, other
business. We don't want to give you
another loan because we're not going to
be able to sell your crap loan because
we're still trying to sell the other
crap loans." And that's when you truly
get to a real credit event where all of
a sudden leverage and credit standards
freeze up and banks aren't lending
anymore. That's when you have a true
collapse. We're not there yet. We're
just starting to see the conditions of
these things propping up. And these are
things that most people don't pay
attention to. I mean, if you look at uh
uh at at the CLLO market, Bloomberg just
today, uh CLO, ETF, Bloomberg had a big
piece on this. Cracks are forming. There
it is. Now, you can look this one up. I
think it's a good one. Cracks are
forming uh in the CLLO market.
Okay. Long and short, it's going to be
harder for businesses and banks to
actually lend crappy, you know, to
crappy businesses because nobody's going
to provide liquidity through the ETFs
anymore. Cracks are forming in CLO
market as ETFs are on a record selling
spree. These are the conditions for a
recession. The the fuel has been
spilled. The fuel was spilled before
Trump came along. Donald Trump just
spilled even more fuel and lit the fire.
Now we're waiting for it to hit the fuel
tank. It's bad. We got to put this fire
out. And maybe the thought is we could
put this fire out with our negotiations
with China. But let's put it this way.
It ain't looking good so far. Now people
have this impression that China is
panicking and that they're going to fold
on, you know, Donald Trump's demands.
I don't see that as much as other people
do. Now, it's possible that I'm wrong.
I'm I'm wrong. Like I said, I, you know,
everybody can be wrong. But I want you
to have my perspective on this because
I'm very concerned about what's
happening with China. China, first of
all, is sounding more capitalist than
I've ever heard them sound in my career.
Which is weird because I think of China
as well, frankly, the Chinese Communist
Party because golly, that's what they
are.
Why are they sounding more capitalist
than us? As Donald Trump is trying to
negotiate a trade deal with China, China
is going to the European Union and
promising close
partnerships. They're not negotiating
with us. They're negotiating with all of
our allies. Japan, South Korea, Europe,
everybody but us. Why? Because China
prepared for this. they started
diversifying their trade to other
countries. Out of all of the countries
and blocks, because the couple of these
are blocks like the EU and the Azian
countries. Uh out of these blocks, the
United States has the largest decline in
trade in 2023,
uh you know, compared to 2022. Now,
obviously, there were, you know, other
fluctuations going on in terms of
deflation in China and also a slowdown
in the Euro zone that had an effect on
this. The United States was in a bit of
a slowdown in 22 but started recovering
in 23, which should actually mean the
United States growth is even more
positive. But it's not. China is
diversifying their exports to other
countries. Why are they doing that?
Because they don't solely want to be
reliant on the United States. So, we've
got the European Union here, which has
more trade than the United States does,
and they're partnering with China. The
European Union obviously led by
countries like Germany. These are
massive economies. Now then you have
Azian over here which would be like
Indonesia, Indonesia, Malaysia, the
Philippines, Singapore, right? Singapore
is like people call Singapore Singapore
Inc. because it's considered so
capitalistic. And what's remarkable is
you have
countries that are more than happy to do
deals with China because it's cheap to
do business with China.
China has faced deflation in
manufacturing which makes it more
inexpensive to produce your product in
China than ever before and you get a
better quality product than ever
before. Fortune estimates that if the
iPhone, the way Carolyn Levit described
it, wants the iPhone to be manufactured
in the United States, if the iPhone were
manufactured in the United States, it
would cost $30,000 to upwards of
$100,000 if we even had the capability
of doing it.
So, China relies on us less than ever
before. But what you should also pay
attention to is China's letter. China
just put together a letter and suggest
that US tariffs interrupt global supply
order, disrupt trade
negotiations, that the United States has
benefited from international trade, yet
now they are selfishly weaponizing
tariffs. that Donald Trump is conducting
economic bullying, and that he is lying
about fairness and reciprocity in order
to pursue an America first agenda, that
the Chinese people value sincerity and
good faith, and they do not provoke
trouble, but they are also not
intimidated by it, that US China
economic relations should be mutually
beneficial and win-win, and
protectionism is dead and there are no
winners in a trade war. That's not some
opinion of an American. It's literally
the article that China wrote. You could
read it. Chinese government's position
on opposing US abuse of tariffs. April
5th. They also tagged Trump at real
Trump on X. So, mind
you, China is pissed. And this is why
they're vowing to fight Donald Trump
because they see Donald Trump is making
the mistake here. Mind you, yeah, China
had tariffs on the United States
beforehand, but trade weighted, they
were 2.2%. 2%. Donald Trump just raised
the tariffs to
104%. That's insane. Now, part of that
is because China came back with a 34%
tariff, raising that 2.2 to to 36. But
you could see the magnitude of Trump
initially, you know, 30xing the tariffs
China has and now roughly 3xing the
tariffs China
has. I don't know if Trump is going to
win against China here. And this is not
being anti-American. I'm just concerned
that we are overplaying our hand. And
when we overplay our hand, we risk an
extended trade war and we risk losing.
And I don't like
losing. I'd rather have really good
cards but not be forced to play them.
Now, the good news is we're starting to
see some incredible sales events. You
know, car car dealers are reporting
massive boosts of sales in March. Uh
Tarp Tent, an outdoor gear company, has
a coupon code literally called tariffs
suck. and their sales surged 25%. Most
of their product comes from China. Apple
reportedly shipped in five plane phones
uh planes uh full of iPhones today to
try to you know extend how long they can
basically go without having to pay
tariffs. Some people are apparently
loading up on deodorant and toothpaste
like it was co Best Buy saw an 8% jump
in sales last month. The best jump since
COVID. Apple stores are super busy as
people think about getting a new
phone. All of these things are
happening.
in anticipation the tariffs might
actually last for quite a
while. Now the US trade representative,
the office of the US trade
representative argues that there are
differences between China and others who
are trying to negotiate and that's
because China indicates that they may
not want to work towards reciprocity.
That's because they don't believe in
Trump's reciprocity. And when they don't
trust somebody they're negotiating with,
well, you end up with problems. You end
up with no deal. You have to be able to
trust your counterparty. otherwise it
becomes really hard to negotiate and I
don't think we've exactly given China a
reason to trust us. So when I say as I
said this morning in the course member
liveream I think markets are going to
fade today and there's a greater chance
of us going down than there is up today.
Puts are more
desirable. Well then all of a sudden we
look at the facts and we go well it
makes sense Kevin why you had that
opinion. You looked at the facts you
presented those facts to course members.
you present it just like I present the
facts on my videos uh broadly here
except you know we do our course member
live stream at market open so it's a
little bit more tradable and then you
know we can put together broad research
and thoughts and more organized videos
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this which remember if you want to be
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meet kevin.com price goes up April 15th
but what I want you to know is we are in
a
position where things aren't getting
better with tariffs there's the argument
that things are getting better, but so
far we're not seeing things get better.
People are arguing that China is
freaking out. I don't think they are.
People are arguing that the Fed is going
to bail us out. I don't think they are
anytime soon. Got to see the labor
market crap cracking first. Just like
Barkley says, hey,
uh, you know, the labor market is super
lagging. Well, that means the Fed's
probably going to lag and that means
Donald Trump, while he's cheering good
labor numbers, is probably going to miss
the boat and end up causing a deeper,
darker recession than previously thought
possible. Now, people are under this
impression that we're just going to have
a mild recession. Even Barclay suggests
mild recession. My concern is that this
mild recession is actually going to be a
much longer recession. See, you have
country or companies like Shopify now
arguing that hey, you know, we need to
consider using AI uh before we hire
anyone. Okay. Well, this is actually
slightly problematic. Not for the
company Shopify. It's smart for them,
but it's problematic for the economy in
recovering out of a recession. See, look
at this. Before asking for more
headcounted resources, teams must
demonstrate why they cannot get what
they want done using AI. What would this
area look like if autonomous AI agents
were already part of the team? This
question can lead to really fun
discussions and projects. In other
words, Shopify is like, "We're not
hiring anyone until you tell us why you
can't already use AI to cover this."
Well, this all comes at the same time as
Elon Musk through well, in part Kimble
Musk appears to be freaking out a little
bit over the drama that we're seeing
with Peter Navaro. Now, I find this
really interesting because
see Elon Musk being part of the Trump
admin essentially can't really bluntly
call out Donald Trump. He's tried to
talk Donald Trump down on the tariff
ledge and has failed. And so now what's
happening is you're actually seeing
Kimble Musk come out and try to defend
Elon Musk and go anti-tariffs on behalf
of Elon Musk. Now I wonder how much of
that is sort of being conveyed by Elon
uh but then you know to to Kimble and
then all of a sudden Kimble is is sort
of running with the story, right? I
wouldn't be surprised by that. China is
run by very smart people. This is not a
game that should be played by C minus
students like Peter Navaro. A lot of
this slamming of Peter Navaro, by the
way, including Elon Musk calling him the
Rword today, is happening because Peter
Navaro suggests that Elon Musk is a car
assembler, not a car manufacturer, and
that Elon Musk should get his parts from
the United States. Peter is only
partially right here because Teslas are
the most Americanmade vehicle that
exists. Uh even Kelly Blue Book
reiterates that. The problem is Peter
Navaro does have a slight point in that
35% to 45% of components in Teslas are
made in foreign
countries. You know, copper wiring, wire
harnesses, lithium ion faz phosphate
batteries come from China. Okay, those
batteries today are now twice as
expensive. Think about that. If Tesla
needs to put a
$6,000 battery in a car, that battery
now costs $12,000 to import. Well, you
may as well put 4680s in. Oh, but can we
scale 4680s to all the vehicles we're
doing right now?
No. Okay. Well, that's going to take a
while then. And it's more expensive to
use 4680 structural batteries. So, there
goes your margin. The tariffs hurt your
margin
directly. So, that's problematic. So,
now, I mean, think about it. If a uh
$35,000 car that Tesla sells has an 18%
margin with vehicle tax
credits, guess what
18% margin on a $35,000 car is? Take a
look at this right here. Uh see that
right there? 66,300 bucks. Okay. Well,
if a $6,000 battery now cost twice as
much, all your margin's
gone. This is what's problematic.
And it's like, oh, well then do 4680s.
Okay, well those cost twice as much. Oh,
great. You also have no
margin. So, it's a
problem. And unfortunately, it's taking
a lot longer to get through this tariff
negotiation because Trump is digging in
his heels. He wants $350 billion from
the European Union. European Union says,
"Let's go to 0." He says, "No, we want
$350 billion of energy imports so we can
offset this trade surplus," which is
phony math anyway.
Well, what the heck? If it's all based
on phony math and phony logic, why would
the European Union do it if they could
buy cheaper energy somewhere
else? So, unfortunately, what I think
you have are very undesirable uh a very
undesirable investing environment uh
because there's a lot of risk. There's a
risk of true deep dirty recession and we
are getting more and more signals than
ever before. Now, I already thought we
were primed for recession before all of
this, but there was hope that we could
prevent it, right? The slowdown in jobs,
the 27 weeks unemployed, the jolts
ratio, the quid ratio, the yield curve
steepening, all of these factors were
things we were looking at going,
okay, might want to start thinking about
a recession being in the cards.
Okay, Donald Trump has added to those
uncertainties. When we thought that he
would remove from those uncertainties,
we thought tax credits, more more
deregulation, more growth in America, we
got the opposite. We got more problems
layered on at an at an already sensitive
time. So this idea that oh well Kevin
you know your bearish thesis is only
playing out because of Trump's dariffs
or whatever you know like very few
people mention that because most people
who watch me have more brain power than
than that simplicity. But the reality is
the opposite. The conditions were
already there. Donald Trump has just
accelerated those conditions rather than
make them worse. Things aren't binary in
life. They're not sort of like light
switch on or off. There's a lot more to
it. And so this is where I I am
personally
concerned. Now I'm also grateful because
in February we gave $40 million in a
financial advisory fund back to
investors and said we are going into a
bad time. Take this money and be
careful. Don't buy the top of the
market. Be careful. Now one of the
reasons I did that is because I really
wanted to focus and triple down on house
hack. I don't do personalized financial
advice for folks. Uh I don't do fund
management. I've I've experienced Wall
Street. I've experienced broker deals
and everything. And what we're doing is
we're taking all of the knowledge and
all of the experience that we have in
Wall Street and we're applying it to
make House Hack the best Berkshire
Hathaway style company that's starting
with real estate that can be created
over the next hopefully 60 years. That's
my dream. That's my goal. That's my
baby. That's why I'm just basically
shutting everything and focusing only on
house hack because that I think is the
best play going into this insane uh
recessionary environment. Now maybe that
makes me biased, you know, may maybe I'd
be more interested in so consider that
maybe I'd be more interested in buying
the dip today in stocks if I didn't have
this opportunity in house hack. See, I
think I can 100x house hack. I mean,
obviously not a guarantee, but I think I
can 100x that. I have control over it
and I have hope in it. A company like
Tesla, I have hope but I don't have any
control. So that mismatch makes me very
very optimistic about what I could do
with house hack. And that's why I'm
focusing so many of my energies just on
that which I'm really excited about
especially as we go into this cycle
where we're going to be able to deploy
cash in opportune times because of what
we think is going to be probably an
extended and dirty recession. We'll see.
I hope not. Hopefully, we can undo some
of this drama that's going on with the
tariffs because it's making things worse
and not better and this this new spike
in the
210. It's worth remembering this also.
This is just another topic I know people
are going to ask about. A lot of people
are like, "Hey, Kevin, you know, why is
why is TLT
falling? Isn't it supposed to be a
hedge?" TLT is a hedge for recession.
Markets today are pricing in inflation
from tariffs that are staying longer.
But what happens after you stagnate and
go through
stagflation?
Recession. So, it'll come. Yields will
plummet. But what will happen first is
the 2-year yield will plummet. That's
when we get our credit shock. When we
get our credit shock, we fall into a
deep recession. That's when the 10ear
comes rapidly down. And it usually
happens a lot faster than we can even
react to it. Anyway, those are my
thoughts. Thank you so much for
watching. We'll see you in the next
video. Goodbye and good luck. Why not
advertise these things that you told us
here? I feel like nobody else knows
about this. We'll we'll try a little
advertising and see how it goes.
Congratulations, man. You have done so
much. People love you. People look up to
you. Kevin Papra there, financial
analyst and YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always
great to get your take.
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