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The Trump Trade War *JUST* Flipped EVEN WORSE.

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It's official. We have just had the

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ninth worst week in the S&P 500 since

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World War II, only bested by weeks like

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those around Black Monday 1987, the

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dotcom bubble bursting, the great

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financial crisis, COVID, all really bad

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times. At the same time, the spread

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between the twos and the tens just hit

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56. Spoiler alert, that's an early

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recession indicator for you. when that

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spread between the two rises above 50

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into that 50 to 90 range. It's the first

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time we have seen it since before CO.

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It's the first time we've hit that kind

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of spread. It's usually a sign of an

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imminent start to a recession. And I

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don't want to cause any alarm. That's

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just statistically and historically what

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has been true. Maybe this time is

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different. At the same time, you have

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some reports that hedge funds are

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offloading quote all or most of their

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holdings in stocks as volatility is

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pushing them away from the US stock

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market. Now, some of that could be

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because hedge funds like using margin

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and then, you know, if they end up

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getting screwed being caught offside,

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well, then they lose lots of money and

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they lose their jobs or their companies.

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But at the same time as this, China is

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conducting an 11 billion US dollar

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market stabilization activity in China

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to help stabilize their stock market

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because of the damage this trade war is

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causing. So you can see this is starting

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to really get intense where people are

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really making longerterm decisions based

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on the shorter term movements of well

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the tariff debuckle. Now that said,

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Barclay's just released a piece

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suggesting that you should not catch a

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falling knife. And not only are we going

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to talk about this Barclay's falling

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knife piece, but we're also going to

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talk about some massive shifts in China.

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Because as you remember, when you come

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to this channel, I'm going to give you

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perspective you're not going to hear

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somewhere else. A lot of people on the

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internet today are suggesting, "Oh,

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China is desperate to make a deal with

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us." In this video, you get a little bit

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of a different perspective and I'll give

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you some evidence as to why I have some

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thoughts regarding China as well as this

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Barclay's recession piece. But first, I

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want to make a quick little mention.

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This morning in the course member live

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stream when the market opened up, I

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mentioned to everybody that I would be

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really cautious of the bounce that we're

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seeing in markets because I expect it's

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going to get faded. I don't think upside

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is good. I'll show you the clip in just

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a moment. that is I didn't think upside

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was good on the day today. I actually

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thought that not only was there a

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greater chance that stocks would get

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faded today, but I actually advocated

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for selling call options because the

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volatility is so high. I have not seen

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the volatility this high in some stock

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option premiums in a while. I mean, you

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can make like 13 or 14% on some sold

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call options for 70 days. That is

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phenomenal volatility. I'll show you the

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clip in just a moment, but look at this.

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If you go look at what happened to the

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Q's, we were up over

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3% and we ended up fading all the way

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down to negative 1.8%. That's almost a

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5% move in the NASDAQ 100 intraday. That

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is a shocking move. Now, let me go ahead

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and play the clip for you. And just

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remember, you could be part of what

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thousands over 4,000 of you are watching

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it by joining the Meet Kevin membership.

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you lock in your price now, you will not

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have any price increase ever. You lock

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higher price. It's the way it is. So, go

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check it out over at meetke.com. But

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here's the clip so you can get a glance.

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I don't want you to think like a retail

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investor right now. I want you to think

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like a money manager who doesn't want to

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get sued in the next crash. I want you

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to think like an institution uh or a

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hedge fund. take the tactical rally and

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fade it. Because what has actually

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changed in tariffs?

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Nothing. What

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has psychologically changed? The words

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coming out of Bessant's mouth. Now in

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pre-market, we've moved up to our next

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line set 438. But I don't have anything

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for us past this. So I think it's a I

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think it's a a hard lift to say, "Oh,

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yeah. Okay. Today we got to go calls on

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QQQ. Uh you know because a you're going

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into no man's land and b you're already

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extended up 36. So from a trading point

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of view this is a very undesirable call

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position now. What I could consider

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would be sold options right now. Look

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just because that was exactly what ended

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up happening does not mean I'm always

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right. And I want you to know my goal is

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to share perspective with you and with

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as much factual information as possible.

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I do want to mention that sometimes this

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pisses people off. For example, here is

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a tweet that I made on July 25th where I

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said, "Sorry, Tom Lee. Rotating into

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small caps just as recession as

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recession risks rise is fully rword, you

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know, with some censorship here." Now,

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micro to macro says the only thing that

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is the rword is actually meet Kevin.

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basically saying the Russell 2000 is

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doing just fine. Well, since these

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tweets, the Russell 2000 is down over

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22%. Fundst strat in his fund, in other

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words, Tom's fund, has lost over

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20% in his fund for his clients that he

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charges a large management fee for since

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just the election. It's not even a

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year-over-year performance. It's since

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the election. Now, it's not my fault.

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Some people don't position for

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protecting themselves when there's

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evidence of a recession coming.

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Ultimately, that is everybody's own

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desiraability and their own moves.

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Everybody has to take responsibility for

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their own decisions. But I want you as

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an investor to consider what Barclays is

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telling you in their global macro

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thoughts. Don't catch a falling knife

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because I understand how desirable it is

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to be bullish and to buy the dip. In

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fact, I want you to remember that the

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whole goal of Wall Street is to get you

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to put money in with their fund. That's

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Wall Street's

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goal. Wall Street does not want you to

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sell. Wall Street makes money off of

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you, whether the market's going up or

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down. And the more bullish you are, the

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more people invest with you. So

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remember, that is a risk factor. Now,

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what is Barclays telling you? Barlays

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interestingly has a research piece out

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suggesting that we now expect recessions

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in both the US and Euro era area. This

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by the way comes just as JP Morgan is

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convinced we are going to have a

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recession this year and JP Morgan says

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the Russell 2000 small cap index is

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showing indications with a 79% certainty

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that we are going into recession. So in

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other words small caps say 79% chance of

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recession. JP Morgan says yes recession.

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And now Barclays is joining the yes

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recession camp. Goldman Sachs is at

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about a 65% chance of recession. But I

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want you to look at some of the

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commentary they give because I do think

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they give some really good insight here.

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They suggest that they do not expect a

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really quick walk back on tariffs and

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that the president has emphasized

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tariffs will be permanent. He feels that

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if companies see tariffs as temporary,

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they will not move production back to

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America. Okay, there's a lot to

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unpackage here. And a lot of what there

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is to unpackage actually goes into why I

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made the claim this morning that we were

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probably going to fade. A lot of folks

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sometimes they hear me say these things

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and they're like, "Wait a minute,

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Kevin." Like, "Did you just guess that

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the market was going to fade this

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morning?" Like, why would you say in

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your course member live stream the

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market's going to fade? And then crap,

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it literally faded by 5% on the cues.

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Huge move, by the way. Why would you

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make that decision?

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The reason I had that opinion was

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because what happened yesterday was a

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rebranding. Donald Trump is a salesman.

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He knows how to market. The problem with

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this is what they found is they've

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changed the messaging on tariffs to try

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to reduce some of the damage of tariffs,

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but not the actual intentions. This is a

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big mistake in my opinion. See, what's

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happening is Howard Lutnik from the

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Commerce Department, which many people

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are now calling Nutlick because he's a

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yes man or Slutnik because he never says

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no. These are very inappropriate. You

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should not say these things. Lutnik has

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actually been replaced by Treasury

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Secretary Besson. See, Political has a

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piece which appears to be accurate that

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Besset flew to Florida to lobby Trump on

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tariffs. And basically the article talks

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about how Besson is trying to smooth

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over the tone of how they're describing

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tariffs to the American people and how

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they're trying to sell tariffs to

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Americans. The problem with this is

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Steve Besson himself says that he

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expects tariffs to be a melting ice

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cube. In other words, it's going to take

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a while, but eventually we're going to

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use tariffs to negotiate better trade

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deals with other countries and bring

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jobs back to America. Besson is

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convinced that fired federal workers,

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imagine this, like imagine DMV workers

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doing this. Okay, just as an example,

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but fired federal workers will end up

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taking jobs in American

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factories, right? Because we see that

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happening. No, we don't see that

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happening. But the point is Bessant's

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messaging is, hey, we're going to

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negotiate to get that manufacturing done

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in America. That sounds positive.

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Lutnik's messaging is, "We're not

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negotiating with anyone. We want our

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tariffs." That sounds blunt and harsh.

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All they've done is remarketed,

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rebranded how they're talking about the

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tariffs. They have not actually changed

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the fundamental basis of tariffs. And

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so, when I was in the course member live

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stream this morning with thousands of

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you, I said,

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"Listen, I am of the mindset that this

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rebranding will end up getting seen.

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People will read it like a book and go,

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wait, nothing's actually changed. We

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haven't made a deal with Vietnam. We

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haven't made a deal with Taiwan. We've

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had talks. We've had concepts of talk

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with these countries, but we don't

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actually have deals. If anything, things

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are worsening in China. Don't even get

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me started on China. We still have to

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get through the Barclays recession piece

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here. But don't even get me started with

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China because that's that's going to be

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a big one here in just a moment. But a

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lot of this relates like this sounds

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very Trumpian what I'm about to show

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you. There is a transcript about a

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discussion between Gary Cohen and Donald

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Trump. Now, I don't know if it's

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accurate or if it's true, but let me

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just put it this way. It sounds like

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Donald Trump. Let me read it to you

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because I think it's going to give you a

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little bit more color into the mind of

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Donald Trump. It says, Gary Cohen, Mr.

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President, can I show you this? Cohen

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fanned out the pages of data in front of

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the president. See, the biggest levers

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of jobs, people leaving voluntarily, was

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from manufacturing. In other words,

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where were people leaving workforces in

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America? They were leaving out of

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manufacturing. They didn't want

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manufacturing jobs. Donald Trump says,

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"I don't get it." Cohen tried to

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explain. I could sit in the nice office

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with air conditioning and a desk, or I

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could stand on my feet for 8 hours a

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day. Which one do you do for the same

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pay? People don't want to stand in front

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of a 2,000 degree blast furnace. People

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don't want to go into coal mines and get

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a black lung for the same dollar or the

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equivalent dollar. They choose to do

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something else. Customer service, IP

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work, legal work, accounting work,

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artificial intelligence, development,

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doesn't

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matter. Trump wasn't buying it. Several

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times, Conan asked, "Hey, Mr. President,

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why do you have these views?" Trump

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replied, "I just do. I've had these

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views for 30

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years. Gary replies, that doesn't mean

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they're right. I had the view for 15

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years I could play professional

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football. It doesn't mean I was right.

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Now, this is really interesting coming

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uh from Gary Con. What you find is the

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stubbornness of Donald Trump is probably

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exactly what's happening in the White

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House today. Now, people say, "Oh, come

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on. You know, he's a reasonable man.

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He's not going to be stubborn. Really, I

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don't know about that because even Elon

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Musk failed. And Elon Musk is pretty

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damn convincing. He's got a pocketbook.

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Look at this. Musk made direct appeals

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to Trump to reverse sweeping new tariffs

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and failed. This, by the way, was before

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Liberation Day. I'm not going to bore

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you with the entire story. It's obvious

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there was a failure. This is why

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Starlink and Tesla are begging for

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exemptions uh from tariffs on critical

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parts. For example, Starlink wants is

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begging for exemptions on Chinese

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machines so they can continue to

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manufacture the Starlink parts or the

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satellite parts that they critically

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need in their business. You have to

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think about it this way.

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SpaceX or you know the Starlink

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division, they might pay a million

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dollars for a machine, let's just say,

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but with that machine that they spend a

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million dollars on in China, they might

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be able to do $10 million of business in

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the United States. What's their trade

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deficit? That company, what is in that

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example, what is their trade deficit

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with China? They bought a billion

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dollars of machines in China and then

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sold $10 million worth of products in

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America. Well, technically their trade

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deficit with China is $1 million because

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China didn't buy any of those star-like

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units, but China enabled the selling of

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$10 million of revenue or maybe even a

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lot more in America through that quote

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unquote trade deficit. But Donald Trump

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doesn't understand that logic. See,

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Donald Trump is of the mindset that a

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trade surplus or trade deficit is like a

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profit and loss statement. He said it

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himself. He said that, hey, what a trade

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surplus is is basically like a P&L and I

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want to treat it like a P&L. In other

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words, I want it to be positive. This is

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what he told us yesterday in his press

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conference. The problem with that, Mr.

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President, is it's not logical. It

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doesn't make sense because when you

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consider the example I just gave, you

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could actually import from China and do

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a lot more for the economy or global

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growth and have a technical trade

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deficit, but still be promoting the

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economy in a massive manner. See, Donald

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Trump sees a trade deficit as a loss.

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The reality is it's not a loss.

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And as a result of his opinion that

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there's a loss, he's refusing to

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negotiate with countries unless they

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give him even more than 000. China, the

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European Union, and other countries were

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all offering trade deals well before

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Donald Trump

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suggested liberation day, but he

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rejected all of those in favor of well

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liberation day. And so well, here we

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are. And so this is where we go into

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this Barclay's piece and we look and we

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see Donald Trump feels that if companies

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see these tariffs as temporary, they

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will not move production back. That's

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where we left off on the Barclays piece.

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And that's exactly what's happening.

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Donald Trump is convinced through a

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misconceived notion that we must have a

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trade surplus with every country and

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we're going to sell them something

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whether they like it or

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not. This is being considered the

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reordering of global trade.

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And even countries that have no tariffs

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against us, like Singapore, are still

15:55

getting blanket tariffs because Donald

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Trump wants more than zero zero.

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See, we had these positive suggestions

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over the last 48 hours that Vietnam

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would be a leader in global trade deals.

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But White House officials subsequently

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cautioned that did not mean the US would

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drop tariffs on Vietnam. That there

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might still be permanent tariffs against

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other countries that do strike deals

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with us and deals will actually look

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like we're still going to tariff you,

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but we want us to do more for you. Well,

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what we're really doing here is

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rebuilding the entire existing global

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trade system. And it's no surprise that

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Barclays is now suggesting that the

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president is basically toying with a

16:36

recession. In fact, if you just go to

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the bottom over here for a moment, you

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can see Barclays tells you the

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following. Barclay says, "We expect the

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United States to be in a recession

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between Q4 2024 and Q4 2025 all year.

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They expect the Euro zone will be in a

16:52

recession during that time and they

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expect China's growth will not be 5% but

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rather it will be 3%. They think global

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growth is likely to be near recessionary

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levels in the coming quarters. They also

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suggest that they like bonds as an

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investment. Uh and they tell us that

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they think the earnings per share impact

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of tariffs and retalatory measures are

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likely to be around 10%.

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Now, what's interesting is if you just

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consider 10% and you take a stock that's

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trading for 20 times, 20 times, let's

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say $10 of EPS is $200. That's the stock

17:24

value. Okay, very simple, the stock

17:25

valuation 101. But the problem is it's

17:27

not just EPS that gets hit. It's the

17:29

valuation multiple. So instead of a 20x,

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we might be at a 16x. So now you take

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EPS down and you take the multiple down

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another four points, right? So, if EPS

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instead of

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$10 is actually, let's say, $9 and we're

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multiplying at $160, that stock is now

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$144 instead of $200, which is a 28%

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drop. And that's potentially just the

17:51

beginning of the story because you could

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have compression much more than that.

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And EPS declines could be much more

17:56

sizable in a recession. Something else

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to keep in mind is that the labor market

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is holding up and is being cheered by

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Donald Trump. But this is yet another

18:05

mistake because as we know and I've

18:07

beaten this into everyone who watches my

18:09

channel's mind, the labor market is the

18:12

most lagging indicator of recession

18:14

ever. Barclays actually does a great job

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here. They indicate that in 2009, let me

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see if I can find it. In 2009, the labor

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market here has peaked at the end of

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2009 at 10%.

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But the joblessness rate in September of

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2008, right around the time of the

18:32

Lehman Brothers collapse, was just 6.1%.

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In other words, the shock element that

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occurs in an economy doesn't necessarily

18:41

align with when you get bad unemployment

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numbers. You usually get bad

18:46

unemployment numbers after the shock

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event. And now that the 102 spread is

18:52

over 50, we are ready and primed for a

18:55

shock. And that's what's really scary is

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we think the tariff event was a shock.

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The tariff event just lit the fire of

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the filled spilled fuel of the problems

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that our economy had going into this.

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Right? Donald Trump didn't solely create

19:10

the conditions for a rough economy. You

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know, we didn't know we were going to

19:13

have crazy tariffs like this last July.

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We were looking at a weakening labor

19:16

market and the fact that this economy is

19:18

not going to be resilient in the face of

19:20

a bad shock. And so it's no surprise

19:23

that now all of a sudden you're seeing

19:24

high yield spreads moving 93 basis

19:27

points which has only ever happened

19:29

during major crises. I mean look at the

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spike over here. We're still not at some

19:32

of the peaks of some of the other credit

19:34

events but credit spreads are finally

19:36

expanding. The largest credit spread

19:39

expansion in 17 months and this trend is

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just beginning. We are just at the

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beginning of this credit

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event. Don't even look at what's

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happening in like the CLO market right

19:49

now. the CLLO market, the the

19:51

collateralized loan obligation. Uh this

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is different from credit default swap

19:54

CDOS. The CLLO market uh is is seeing

19:58

massive outflows because people don't

20:00

want exposure to the loans of

20:02

corporations that you know could be

20:05

small caps at risk of bankruptcy. I

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mean, this makes logical sense, but the

20:09

problem is when the valuations of CLOS's

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go down, the ability for companies to

20:14

get financing goes down because

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companies rely on being able to get

20:18

debt, access to debt from banks, capital

20:21

from banks, but banks want to sell that

20:23

debt. Let me let me clear this up. Okay,

20:27

so see this cup right here? This is a

20:32

pile of

20:34

trash. See this wrapper? This is a loan

20:39

from a crappy small cap company that's

20:41

too overleveraged. Mind you, by the way,

20:44

at House Hack, there's a reason why we

20:45

have zero bank debt because we are very

20:48

conservative because we think the

20:50

biggest money is made during

20:51

recessionary times. And that's why I

20:53

think a lot of people are investing with

20:54

us right now. You can go check us out

20:56

over at househack.com because we're

20:58

probably a really good counteryclical

20:59

play and I have control over the

21:01

business and I'm really optimistic about

21:02

it. But anyway, so here is a pile of

21:07

crap or a bundle of crap. We could call

21:09

them tanches of craps. Boy, doesn't that

21:12

sound familiar? Here is a crappy loan

21:15

that is declining in value because the

21:18

market is selling these CLLO CLLLOs's

21:21

off like crazy. So, a new business comes

21:24

along and says, "Hey, I want a loan."

21:26

The bank

21:28

goes, "Smells like crap. Looks like

21:30

crap. We'll just put it in the bundle of

21:33

crap and hope it sells. If nobody buys

21:36

it, the bank is there like this. Oh,

21:39

We're holding all the crap.

21:42

Please, somebody buy the crap. And the

21:44

more the banks are holding crap that

21:46

pops up out of nowhere, the more the

21:49

banks are like, "Yeah, sorry, other

21:50

business. We don't want to give you

21:52

another loan because we're not going to

21:53

be able to sell your crap loan because

21:55

we're still trying to sell the other

21:56

crap loans." And that's when you truly

21:59

get to a real credit event where all of

22:02

a sudden leverage and credit standards

22:04

freeze up and banks aren't lending

22:06

anymore. That's when you have a true

22:08

collapse. We're not there yet. We're

22:09

just starting to see the conditions of

22:11

these things propping up. And these are

22:13

things that most people don't pay

22:14

attention to. I mean, if you look at uh

22:18

uh at at the CLLO market, Bloomberg just

22:20

today, uh CLO, ETF, Bloomberg had a big

22:24

piece on this. Cracks are forming. There

22:26

it is. Now, you can look this one up. I

22:28

think it's a good one. Cracks are

22:29

forming uh in the CLLO market.

22:33

Okay. Long and short, it's going to be

22:37

harder for businesses and banks to

22:39

actually lend crappy, you know, to

22:41

crappy businesses because nobody's going

22:44

to provide liquidity through the ETFs

22:46

anymore. Cracks are forming in CLO

22:48

market as ETFs are on a record selling

22:51

spree. These are the conditions for a

22:54

recession. The the fuel has been

22:57

spilled. The fuel was spilled before

22:59

Trump came along. Donald Trump just

23:01

spilled even more fuel and lit the fire.

23:04

Now we're waiting for it to hit the fuel

23:05

tank. It's bad. We got to put this fire

23:07

out. And maybe the thought is we could

23:10

put this fire out with our negotiations

23:12

with China. But let's put it this way.

23:14

It ain't looking good so far. Now people

23:17

have this impression that China is

23:20

panicking and that they're going to fold

23:22

on, you know, Donald Trump's demands.

23:26

I don't see that as much as other people

23:28

do. Now, it's possible that I'm wrong.

23:30

I'm I'm wrong. Like I said, I, you know,

23:32

everybody can be wrong. But I want you

23:34

to have my perspective on this because

23:36

I'm very concerned about what's

23:38

happening with China. China, first of

23:40

all, is sounding more capitalist than

23:43

I've ever heard them sound in my career.

23:46

Which is weird because I think of China

23:48

as well, frankly, the Chinese Communist

23:50

Party because golly, that's what they

23:53

are.

23:54

Why are they sounding more capitalist

23:56

than us? As Donald Trump is trying to

23:59

negotiate a trade deal with China, China

24:03

is going to the European Union and

24:05

promising close

24:07

partnerships. They're not negotiating

24:09

with us. They're negotiating with all of

24:11

our allies. Japan, South Korea, Europe,

24:15

everybody but us. Why? Because China

24:18

prepared for this. they started

24:20

diversifying their trade to other

24:23

countries. Out of all of the countries

24:26

and blocks, because the couple of these

24:28

are blocks like the EU and the Azian

24:30

countries. Uh out of these blocks, the

24:33

United States has the largest decline in

24:37

trade in 2023,

24:39

uh you know, compared to 2022. Now,

24:41

obviously, there were, you know, other

24:43

fluctuations going on in terms of

24:44

deflation in China and also a slowdown

24:47

in the Euro zone that had an effect on

24:48

this. The United States was in a bit of

24:51

a slowdown in 22 but started recovering

24:53

in 23, which should actually mean the

24:55

United States growth is even more

24:57

positive. But it's not. China is

24:59

diversifying their exports to other

25:02

countries. Why are they doing that?

25:04

Because they don't solely want to be

25:06

reliant on the United States. So, we've

25:10

got the European Union here, which has

25:11

more trade than the United States does,

25:14

and they're partnering with China. The

25:16

European Union obviously led by

25:17

countries like Germany. These are

25:18

massive economies. Now then you have

25:21

Azian over here which would be like

25:22

Indonesia, Indonesia, Malaysia, the

25:25

Philippines, Singapore, right? Singapore

25:26

is like people call Singapore Singapore

25:28

Inc. because it's considered so

25:30

capitalistic. And what's remarkable is

25:32

you have

25:34

countries that are more than happy to do

25:37

deals with China because it's cheap to

25:40

do business with China.

25:42

China has faced deflation in

25:44

manufacturing which makes it more

25:46

inexpensive to produce your product in

25:48

China than ever before and you get a

25:49

better quality product than ever

25:52

before. Fortune estimates that if the

25:54

iPhone, the way Carolyn Levit described

25:57

it, wants the iPhone to be manufactured

25:59

in the United States, if the iPhone were

26:01

manufactured in the United States, it

26:02

would cost $30,000 to upwards of

26:05

$100,000 if we even had the capability

26:08

of doing it.

26:11

So, China relies on us less than ever

26:14

before. But what you should also pay

26:16

attention to is China's letter. China

26:19

just put together a letter and suggest

26:21

that US tariffs interrupt global supply

26:24

order, disrupt trade

26:27

negotiations, that the United States has

26:29

benefited from international trade, yet

26:31

now they are selfishly weaponizing

26:32

tariffs. that Donald Trump is conducting

26:34

economic bullying, and that he is lying

26:36

about fairness and reciprocity in order

26:39

to pursue an America first agenda, that

26:41

the Chinese people value sincerity and

26:43

good faith, and they do not provoke

26:46

trouble, but they are also not

26:48

intimidated by it, that US China

26:51

economic relations should be mutually

26:53

beneficial and win-win, and

26:54

protectionism is dead and there are no

26:56

winners in a trade war. That's not some

26:59

opinion of an American. It's literally

27:01

the article that China wrote. You could

27:04

read it. Chinese government's position

27:06

on opposing US abuse of tariffs. April

27:10

5th. They also tagged Trump at real

27:13

Trump on X. So, mind

27:16

you, China is pissed. And this is why

27:19

they're vowing to fight Donald Trump

27:22

because they see Donald Trump is making

27:24

the mistake here. Mind you, yeah, China

27:26

had tariffs on the United States

27:28

beforehand, but trade weighted, they

27:29

were 2.2%. 2%. Donald Trump just raised

27:32

the tariffs to

27:34

104%. That's insane. Now, part of that

27:36

is because China came back with a 34%

27:38

tariff, raising that 2.2 to to 36. But

27:41

you could see the magnitude of Trump

27:44

initially, you know, 30xing the tariffs

27:47

China has and now roughly 3xing the

27:51

tariffs China

27:53

has. I don't know if Trump is going to

27:55

win against China here. And this is not

27:57

being anti-American. I'm just concerned

27:59

that we are overplaying our hand. And

28:01

when we overplay our hand, we risk an

28:03

extended trade war and we risk losing.

28:07

And I don't like

28:09

losing. I'd rather have really good

28:11

cards but not be forced to play them.

28:14

Now, the good news is we're starting to

28:16

see some incredible sales events. You

28:18

know, car car dealers are reporting

28:19

massive boosts of sales in March. Uh

28:22

Tarp Tent, an outdoor gear company, has

28:24

a coupon code literally called tariffs

28:26

suck. and their sales surged 25%. Most

28:29

of their product comes from China. Apple

28:32

reportedly shipped in five plane phones

28:33

uh planes uh full of iPhones today to

28:36

try to you know extend how long they can

28:39

basically go without having to pay

28:40

tariffs. Some people are apparently

28:42

loading up on deodorant and toothpaste

28:44

like it was co Best Buy saw an 8% jump

28:47

in sales last month. The best jump since

28:49

COVID. Apple stores are super busy as

28:52

people think about getting a new

28:54

phone. All of these things are

28:56

happening.

28:58

in anticipation the tariffs might

28:59

actually last for quite a

29:01

while. Now the US trade representative,

29:04

the office of the US trade

29:05

representative argues that there are

29:07

differences between China and others who

29:08

are trying to negotiate and that's

29:10

because China indicates that they may

29:11

not want to work towards reciprocity.

29:13

That's because they don't believe in

29:15

Trump's reciprocity. And when they don't

29:17

trust somebody they're negotiating with,

29:19

well, you end up with problems. You end

29:21

up with no deal. You have to be able to

29:24

trust your counterparty. otherwise it

29:25

becomes really hard to negotiate and I

29:27

don't think we've exactly given China a

29:30

reason to trust us. So when I say as I

29:33

said this morning in the course member

29:35

liveream I think markets are going to

29:37

fade today and there's a greater chance

29:39

of us going down than there is up today.

29:42

Puts are more

29:43

desirable. Well then all of a sudden we

29:46

look at the facts and we go well it

29:48

makes sense Kevin why you had that

29:49

opinion. You looked at the facts you

29:52

presented those facts to course members.

29:54

you present it just like I present the

29:56

facts on my videos uh broadly here

29:58

except you know we do our course member

30:00

live stream at market open so it's a

30:01

little bit more tradable and then you

30:03

know we can put together broad research

30:05

and thoughts and more organized videos

30:07

uh like

30:08

this which remember if you want to be

30:10

part of that meet Kevin membership go to

30:12

meet kevin.com price goes up April 15th

30:15

but what I want you to know is we are in

30:19

a

30:20

position where things aren't getting

30:22

better with tariffs there's the argument

30:24

that things are getting better, but so

30:26

far we're not seeing things get better.

30:27

People are arguing that China is

30:29

freaking out. I don't think they are.

30:31

People are arguing that the Fed is going

30:32

to bail us out. I don't think they are

30:34

anytime soon. Got to see the labor

30:36

market crap cracking first. Just like

30:38

Barkley says, hey,

30:41

uh, you know, the labor market is super

30:43

lagging. Well, that means the Fed's

30:45

probably going to lag and that means

30:46

Donald Trump, while he's cheering good

30:48

labor numbers, is probably going to miss

30:50

the boat and end up causing a deeper,

30:52

darker recession than previously thought

30:54

possible. Now, people are under this

30:56

impression that we're just going to have

30:57

a mild recession. Even Barclay suggests

30:59

mild recession. My concern is that this

31:01

mild recession is actually going to be a

31:02

much longer recession. See, you have

31:05

country or companies like Shopify now

31:07

arguing that hey, you know, we need to

31:10

consider using AI uh before we hire

31:14

anyone. Okay. Well, this is actually

31:17

slightly problematic. Not for the

31:19

company Shopify. It's smart for them,

31:22

but it's problematic for the economy in

31:24

recovering out of a recession. See, look

31:26

at this. Before asking for more

31:27

headcounted resources, teams must

31:29

demonstrate why they cannot get what

31:30

they want done using AI. What would this

31:33

area look like if autonomous AI agents

31:36

were already part of the team? This

31:38

question can lead to really fun

31:39

discussions and projects. In other

31:41

words, Shopify is like, "We're not

31:43

hiring anyone until you tell us why you

31:45

can't already use AI to cover this."

31:51

Well, this all comes at the same time as

31:54

Elon Musk through well, in part Kimble

31:57

Musk appears to be freaking out a little

31:59

bit over the drama that we're seeing

32:01

with Peter Navaro. Now, I find this

32:03

really interesting because

32:05

see Elon Musk being part of the Trump

32:09

admin essentially can't really bluntly

32:14

call out Donald Trump. He's tried to

32:16

talk Donald Trump down on the tariff

32:18

ledge and has failed. And so now what's

32:21

happening is you're actually seeing

32:22

Kimble Musk come out and try to defend

32:26

Elon Musk and go anti-tariffs on behalf

32:29

of Elon Musk. Now I wonder how much of

32:32

that is sort of being conveyed by Elon

32:36

uh but then you know to to Kimble and

32:38

then all of a sudden Kimble is is sort

32:40

of running with the story, right? I

32:43

wouldn't be surprised by that. China is

32:44

run by very smart people. This is not a

32:46

game that should be played by C minus

32:48

students like Peter Navaro. A lot of

32:50

this slamming of Peter Navaro, by the

32:52

way, including Elon Musk calling him the

32:54

Rword today, is happening because Peter

32:56

Navaro suggests that Elon Musk is a car

32:58

assembler, not a car manufacturer, and

33:00

that Elon Musk should get his parts from

33:02

the United States. Peter is only

33:04

partially right here because Teslas are

33:07

the most Americanmade vehicle that

33:09

exists. Uh even Kelly Blue Book

33:11

reiterates that. The problem is Peter

33:13

Navaro does have a slight point in that

33:15

35% to 45% of components in Teslas are

33:19

made in foreign

33:20

countries. You know, copper wiring, wire

33:24

harnesses, lithium ion faz phosphate

33:27

batteries come from China. Okay, those

33:29

batteries today are now twice as

33:32

expensive. Think about that. If Tesla

33:34

needs to put a

33:35

$6,000 battery in a car, that battery

33:39

now costs $12,000 to import. Well, you

33:42

may as well put 4680s in. Oh, but can we

33:45

scale 4680s to all the vehicles we're

33:47

doing right now?

33:49

No. Okay. Well, that's going to take a

33:51

while then. And it's more expensive to

33:54

use 4680 structural batteries. So, there

33:57

goes your margin. The tariffs hurt your

33:59

margin

34:00

directly. So, that's problematic. So,

34:02

now, I mean, think about it. If a uh

34:05

$35,000 car that Tesla sells has an 18%

34:09

margin with vehicle tax

34:11

credits, guess what

34:13

18% margin on a $35,000 car is? Take a

34:18

look at this right here. Uh see that

34:21

right there? 66,300 bucks. Okay. Well,

34:24

if a $6,000 battery now cost twice as

34:27

much, all your margin's

34:31

gone. This is what's problematic.

34:34

And it's like, oh, well then do 4680s.

34:36

Okay, well those cost twice as much. Oh,

34:37

great. You also have no

34:40

margin. So, it's a

34:42

problem. And unfortunately, it's taking

34:44

a lot longer to get through this tariff

34:47

negotiation because Trump is digging in

34:50

his heels. He wants $350 billion from

34:53

the European Union. European Union says,

34:55

"Let's go to 0." He says, "No, we want

34:57

$350 billion of energy imports so we can

35:00

offset this trade surplus," which is

35:01

phony math anyway.

35:05

Well, what the heck? If it's all based

35:07

on phony math and phony logic, why would

35:10

the European Union do it if they could

35:11

buy cheaper energy somewhere

35:14

else? So, unfortunately, what I think

35:16

you have are very undesirable uh a very

35:20

undesirable investing environment uh

35:22

because there's a lot of risk. There's a

35:24

risk of true deep dirty recession and we

35:28

are getting more and more signals than

35:30

ever before. Now, I already thought we

35:33

were primed for recession before all of

35:36

this, but there was hope that we could

35:38

prevent it, right? The slowdown in jobs,

35:41

the 27 weeks unemployed, the jolts

35:44

ratio, the quid ratio, the yield curve

35:46

steepening, all of these factors were

35:49

things we were looking at going,

35:51

okay, might want to start thinking about

35:54

a recession being in the cards.

35:56

Okay, Donald Trump has added to those

35:59

uncertainties. When we thought that he

36:01

would remove from those uncertainties,

36:03

we thought tax credits, more more

36:05

deregulation, more growth in America, we

36:09

got the opposite. We got more problems

36:11

layered on at an at an already sensitive

36:13

time. So this idea that oh well Kevin

36:17

you know your bearish thesis is only

36:19

playing out because of Trump's dariffs

36:21

or whatever you know like very few

36:23

people mention that because most people

36:24

who watch me have more brain power than

36:26

than that simplicity. But the reality is

36:29

the opposite. The conditions were

36:31

already there. Donald Trump has just

36:32

accelerated those conditions rather than

36:34

make them worse. Things aren't binary in

36:36

life. They're not sort of like light

36:37

switch on or off. There's a lot more to

36:39

it. And so this is where I I am

36:42

personally

36:43

concerned. Now I'm also grateful because

36:47

in February we gave $40 million in a

36:51

financial advisory fund back to

36:53

investors and said we are going into a

36:55

bad time. Take this money and be

36:59

careful. Don't buy the top of the

37:01

market. Be careful. Now one of the

37:04

reasons I did that is because I really

37:05

wanted to focus and triple down on house

37:07

hack. I don't do personalized financial

37:10

advice for folks. Uh I don't do fund

37:13

management. I've I've experienced Wall

37:15

Street. I've experienced broker deals

37:17

and everything. And what we're doing is

37:18

we're taking all of the knowledge and

37:20

all of the experience that we have in

37:22

Wall Street and we're applying it to

37:24

make House Hack the best Berkshire

37:26

Hathaway style company that's starting

37:28

with real estate that can be created

37:31

over the next hopefully 60 years. That's

37:33

my dream. That's my goal. That's my

37:34

baby. That's why I'm just basically

37:36

shutting everything and focusing only on

37:39

house hack because that I think is the

37:42

best play going into this insane uh

37:45

recessionary environment. Now maybe that

37:48

makes me biased, you know, may maybe I'd

37:50

be more interested in so consider that

37:52

maybe I'd be more interested in buying

37:53

the dip today in stocks if I didn't have

37:56

this opportunity in house hack. See, I

37:59

think I can 100x house hack. I mean,

38:01

obviously not a guarantee, but I think I

38:02

can 100x that. I have control over it

38:04

and I have hope in it. A company like

38:06

Tesla, I have hope but I don't have any

38:09

control. So that mismatch makes me very

38:12

very optimistic about what I could do

38:13

with house hack. And that's why I'm

38:14

focusing so many of my energies just on

38:16

that which I'm really excited about

38:19

especially as we go into this cycle

38:21

where we're going to be able to deploy

38:23

cash in opportune times because of what

38:26

we think is going to be probably an

38:27

extended and dirty recession. We'll see.

38:30

I hope not. Hopefully, we can undo some

38:32

of this drama that's going on with the

38:34

tariffs because it's making things worse

38:36

and not better and this this new spike

38:39

in the

38:41

210. It's worth remembering this also.

38:44

This is just another topic I know people

38:45

are going to ask about. A lot of people

38:47

are like, "Hey, Kevin, you know, why is

38:48

why is TLT

38:50

falling? Isn't it supposed to be a

38:53

hedge?" TLT is a hedge for recession.

38:57

Markets today are pricing in inflation

39:00

from tariffs that are staying longer.

39:02

But what happens after you stagnate and

39:04

go through

39:05

stagflation?

39:08

Recession. So, it'll come. Yields will

39:11

plummet. But what will happen first is

39:13

the 2-year yield will plummet. That's

39:15

when we get our credit shock. When we

39:17

get our credit shock, we fall into a

39:19

deep recession. That's when the 10ear

39:21

comes rapidly down. And it usually

39:23

happens a lot faster than we can even

39:24

react to it. Anyway, those are my

39:26

thoughts. Thank you so much for

39:27

watching. We'll see you in the next

39:28

video. Goodbye and good luck. Why not

39:30

advertise these things that you told us

39:31

here? I feel like nobody else knows

39:33

about this. We'll we'll try a little

39:34

advertising and see how it goes.

39:35

Congratulations, man. You have done so

39:37

much. People love you. People look up to

39:39

you. Kevin Papra there, financial

39:40

analyst and YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always

39:43

great to get your take.

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