Elon Musk JUST Confronted Vivek Ramaswamy | What JUST Happened
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in this video I'm going to break down an
over two hour conversation between a
Vivek a candidate for president will
link his information down below and Elon
Musk moderated by David Sachs going to
do my best even though I'm not
personally feeling my best in fact I'm a
little nauseous I'm a little sick but
you know what I gave me a lot of time to
listen to this and give you a synopsis
of it so without further Ado here we go
Vivek is the candidate who says he was
able to create a multi-billion dollar
company while getting married and having
two kids he started out his conversation
very strong he says he's worried about
the American dream that Americans are
striving for purpose and because they're
striving for purpose we're unfortunately
falling victim to self-hate like
flogging yourself or as Elon Musk says
punching yourself in the face with
basically things that don't matter like
wokism now Vivek wanted to extend that
to some of the extreme climate change
sort of fight that we've potentially
seen and Elon was probably not the best
person to say that to since Elon quickly
defended how important it is to make
sure we don't mess up the Earth we have
here and how he spends his blood and
sweat and tears fighting for climate or
the climate in America and the world
it's this is a global issue this is a
human issue now Vivek and Elon were able
to agree that of course we should focus
on individual achievement and purpose
and maybe because we don't really have a
wider common enemy we find enemies
within each other you know how united we
got after 9 11 that kind of unity is
missing much like Rome was able to
survive for 2000 years because they had
common enemies outside of the Roman
Empire rather than enemies basically
within it which could ultimately lead to
its collapse which was a lot of the
debating that was going on between Elon
and Vivek was this pessimism about the
future elon's suggestion for how to
solve this was rescinding donations to
Big colleges that teach anti-americanism
basically corporations or donors who try
to influence what we teach individuals
through a liberal arts education and
essentially indoctrinate them into hey
if you're white you're bad if you
succeed you're bad if you're successful
you're bad these are issues that we
should strive for in terms of
achievement and success and of course be
colorblind to things like skin color and
instead basically encourage success off
of Merit which is something that Vivek
really tries to double down on now I
personally ran for governor in
California and I came in second out of
recall candidates with almost a million
votes what I thought was amazing was
that Vivek adopted a similar mindset at
the start which I had as well which was
equal opportunity equal chance
regardless of the color of your skin but
also elon's opinion of the focus on
education now Vivek didn't Echo this as
much as I really wish he would have
Vivek had a great start with hey we got
to make sure the American dream is there
for our children I argued that in
California what am I supposed to tell my
children about why I raised them in
California without crazy California is
becoming so they took a similar angle
here as I did during my Governor
campaign but in my Governor campaign I
had a really clear road map for what I
called future schools which was
basically incorporating trade skills in
our schools financial accounting trade
skills and practical skills so that
every high schooler could graduate at 18
without the need to to go to an
additional trade school or college in
other words everybody would have some
kind of skill to fall back on that is
missing today a lot of people graduated
18 without the opportunity or ability
should I say to do anything there might
be plenty of opportunities but the
ability to do anything might be lacking
I really wish Vivek had a stronger
message here he really agreed with Elon
that yeah those donations to the woke
promoting institutions is bad fine we
can agree with Elon on that but elon's
not running for office I think Vivek
needs a stronger message here but in
spirit I agreed in meritocracy the next
thing that I also agree with both Elon
and vivekan and is also something that I
ran for when I was running for governor
was finally streamlining our immigration
processes the concern in America is that
hey why do we want to let other people
in when you know they're just going to
come in here and use our social services
and then our text dollars will go to
support them I personally don't agree
with that and I don't think evivec and
Elon agree with either I think what we
should be promoting though is that if
somebody is capable of moving from a
different country to America and then
being employed not taking somebody
else's job but being employed providing
skills that are unique but not extreme
skills like you don't need a PhD the way
you do now or some kind of crazy stem uh
achievement to be able to essentially
make it into America instead anybody who
can prove that they would have the
opportunity to work for a company or
create a business where there currently
isn't one or whatever just to Foster
competition and basically be
self-sustaining well they should be able
to apply and have a streamlined
immigration legal immigration process
supporting illegal immigration and then
providing free services for illegal
immigrants I don't think sets the best
precedent because now we're inviting
essentially anybody in to break the law
not the biggest fan of that of course I
understand there are always
circumstances and edges around a core
ideal but I think Vivek could have
really doubled down a little bit more on
hey how exactly are we going to enable
people to come into America with a more
streamlined immigration process we can
all agree in spirit that the legal
immigration process sucks and basically
what people do is they just get married
and then they live a full life for a
couple of years until their immigration
appointment and then they make it in
beyond that we've got to actually
streamline the immigration process by
reforming it and I didn't get a lot of
color on that from Vivek although
usually in America we tend to get lost
in the me weeds so maybe there's a
method to his Madness of not providing
too much detail but anyway Elon and
Vivek uh well Elon made a good analogy
here about how look if there are Ace
players on other teams in other words
people from other countries we should be
able to have them join our team and we
could all Crush together this optimistic
view that hey look adding people is a
net benefit to everyone now Vivek then
talked about how he you know was the
founder of this company that you know
launched many Pharmaceuticals and
otherwise
I lost Vivek a little bit here I wasn't
as excited about vivek's past as I
thought I would now before I go into
this next segment I just have to give
you disclaimer because we're about to
look at some financials for a company
that Vivek is involved in and I want to
give you a heads up look I cover Finance
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run an actively managed ETF so when I go
through this I want you to know that I I
look at balance sheets and income
statements on a daily basis and while I
haven't read every word of this filing I
do have some concerns with this company
that Vivek help found but before we look
at the financials a bit of background
according to the nyt which I know many
people are going to throw their hands up
and go ah come on this is going to be
biased but listen to at least the
allegation and then let Vivek defend it
in the future but I'll show you the
financials first right after this
preface here apparently in 2014 Vivek
founded this company Roi event Sciences
I call it Roi Advanced Sciences because
that's actually what the allegation here
is that the company's Roi stands for
return on investment which was a really
interesting way to name a pharmaceutical
company that the priority was return on
investment rather than like you know
life sciences or something that was like
promoting actual biological outcome
right but anyway uh promoted or founded
this in Bermuda which is a tax Haven
area with a hundred million dollars in
funding for the hedge fund that he
worked for after college then what they
did is they ended up buying for five
million dollars a patent for a specific
Alzheimer's drug that GlaxoSmithKline
had given up on after four failed trials
now later that drug would go on to fail
it didn't end up succeeding and I'm
talking within the eight years
thereafter no success it never succeeded
but guess what happened in the meantime
six months before starting any new
trials on this failed drug that he
bought the rights for for five million
dollars he ended up taking axovant
public so in other words he carved out
part of the company that he bought for
five million dollars with this hedge
fund backed money and then ipo'd the
company for three billion dollars that
company today is public and it's worth
over 8.9 billion dollars which you might
think hey like that's amazing it must be
doing really well if it's worth over 8.9
billion dollars today right well that's
where the cynicism of the New York Times
story gets me scratching my head and I
go well maybe they started with Rocky
foundations but maybe things have gotten
better right
no this is a company that in 2022 Roi
Advanced Sciences again I'm purposely
mispronouncing it because that's what
they created this name for anyway
for 2022 the company had zero product
revenue and 55 million dollars in
licensing Revenue
in 2023 they finally had some revenues
but 28 million dollars of revenues 33
million dollars of Licensing revenue and
here's the wild part I understand when a
company loses or spends nearly half a
billion dollars on research and
development I get that but why would a
company spending half a billion dollars
on research and development also be
spending over half a billion dollars 600
million dollars on selling General and
administrative fees much of which
includes stock based calm
so hold on a second a company with
nearly no revenues
is dumping a ton of money in the selling
and the administrating of a company that
isn't really selling a product they're
researching a potential product but
anyway this company is literally losing
over a billion dollars a year and so the
history of where Vivek got his money
from which apparently now he only owns
about 15 percent of this company which
is still great I mean 15 of 8.9 billion
dollars still makes you a billionaire
even if that's only 10 percent off of
the other gains he's taken in the past
great and who knows maybe the company's
falling into some kind of management
disrepair or dysfunction or whatever
but let's just say if there was one
thing that I just didn't love that I
looked up when I started digging into
some of the financials of vivek's past
it's this and it made me scratch my head
a little bit hmm wouldn't that be a
great way to kind of you know get
attention after you graduate from
college and you have some hedge fund
backing hey let's just take a
pharmaceutical public and Market it
really well and it almost feels like
that's kind of what the company is still
doing today marketing itself really well
so then I wonder
is there detail behind what Vivek is
running for as a candidate and I would
like to actually see that detail because
we know he's smooth spoken but where's
his detail see when I ran for governor I
gave more detail than anybody asked for
and partly that was probably a problem
because then people again get into the
weeds and politics of all your details
oh well you know I don't like exactly
how you do this detail who knows maybe
that's how you're supposed to run for
politics I don't know it wasn't my
opinion but that was sort of a a red
flag for me so I'd like to see some more
color on that because he talks a big
game but the way this big money came
about is a little eyebrow raising to me
let's just say and who knows so far I
have to say I like some of the things he
says I don't necessarily love the idea
of let's delete the FBI and basically
fire 15 000 uh or sorry twenty thousand
back office workers take the other 15
thousand and allocate them to other
entities that already exist like the US
Marshals service or the Department of
Justice or otherwise I think there's
probably going to be a hole there and
don't get me wrong I definitely disagree
with some of the things we saw the FBI
getting involved with especially as we
saw in the Twitter files but there's
probably going to be some kind of hole
left if you just go in and we're
deleting the FBI on day one which is
something that Vivek says Nah it won't
leave a hole we'll be fine
okay maybe a little bit more detail
would be useful here that unfortunately
could cast Vivek on a little bit more of
an extreme side which I think most
Americans are just looking for somebody
to give them the straight scoop and this
is actually something I really like a
Vivek where he says look Americans can
handle the truth we deserve to know the
truth on vaccine safety covet Origins
the hunter Biden story or corruption on
any side of government and this I
wholeheartedly agree with vividcon I
agree that people deserve and can handle
the truth just tell them the truth about
what's going on or what's happening
behind the scenes why we're not enabling
an oversight office for like a new
Inspector General to audit essentially
the expenditures in Ukraine is
mind-blowing it's something that Vivek
and Elon Musk shake their heads that out
of disgust apparently this was blocked
by Senate Democrats maybe there are some
other reasons for it maybe it's a topic
for a different video but there was also
a lot of frustration over Ukraine and it
wasn't just because of this uh blocking
of the audit but it was also the idea of
why are we fighting a war in a trench
warfare style where we're getting maybe
inches to feet to maybe a few miles of
territory through trench warfare and
thousands to hundreds of thousands of
young men essentially are dying in
trench warfare as Elon Musk says the
flowers of the Young Generation of
Ukrainian youth is dying and this is bad
why is the West rejecting Ukrainian
neutrality why are we pushing for NATO
expansion so much as David sacks argued
why are we escalating ourselves into
World War III NATO expansion is a red
line for for Russia so why don't we stop
that NATO expansion this is something
that Vivek agrees with and so does RFK
let's stop NATO expansion and let's have
cooler heads prevailing here because in
war nobody wins Elon argues that
ultimately this war may have gotten to
zielinski's head and there could be some
problems here now moving on it's worth
noting that there were some
conversations about Fidel Castro and
about Putin and about regime change and
bureaucracy and the conversation really
went on for quite a while I've done my
best to hit all of the meat of the
matter I got out of this conversation
and I have to say out of two hours of
talking I didn't get a lot of what are
you going to do for us Vivek and if
there would be a recommendation I could
give to any politician it would be
please tell me how you are going to fix
our schools how are you going to fix our
government how are you going to make us
have more faith that we can actually get
daily matters done that actually apply
to Americans whether it's fiscal
sustainability and the deficit spending
that we keep running up why are we
spending more money on issues that maybe
don't matter so much to individual
Americans instead of issues that do
matter like health and safety or gosh
our schools and law enforcement why is
there lawlessness both at the border and
in our cities what can we do to solve
these issues that affect us at home why
are people dying on the streets of
America to homelessness these are the
things that we should be talking about
and I wish there was more color on these
topics and we didn't get those out of
this conversation now maybe they'll come
up in other conversations but this is
the summary that I got from Elon
confronting Vivint hopefully you
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