What Elon Musk JUST Said about Tesla, Twitter, and SpaceX
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well Elon Musk just had a surprise
discussion with Morgan Stanley on
everything from Twitter to Tesla to
SpaceX and starlink let's go through and
cover some of the latest that Elon just
told us and what did he tell us about
that next Generation vehicle and what
else did he have to say about Twitter's
profitability well first he started out
his
um discussion with Morgan Stanley
analyst talking about how the goal is to
find the truth that was one of the
reasons Elon Musk wanted to buy Twitter
is to make sure that the truth can be
spread as much as possible now that
doesn't mean there's not going to be a
lot of BS but you want the truth with
the lowest level of error rate and
that's why they're expanding that
Community notes feature on Twitter which
one of the things that I noticed that I
thought was really neat was there were a
few ads that were running on Twitter and
they would say things like uh why borrow
from a bank when you could borrow yours
from yourself by using a home equity
line of credit and I'm like home equity
line of credit is from like a credit
union usually or a bank and so I saw
that ad and then after that which this
is an Advertiser paying money to sustain
Twitter's viability right the community
notes actually put a comment underneath
that ad saying ah this is not exactly
accurate you're not borrowing from
yourself you're borrowing from a bank
using the equity in your home and I'm
like yeah like that's awesome like we
should have more like more Community
notes like that to prevent uh the spread
of just straight up false information
right we're not trying to play the
controlling the left or the right or the
narrative it's just like if stuff is
totally wrong like it'd be nice to add
some context or Clarity right whether
it's sarcasm or it's meant to be
deceiving or otherwise right Community
notes have been useful for that so I
think that's pretty interesting I also
think it's interesting that Elon Musk
starts by talking about over at Twitter
what's uh neat is you actually tend to
get news much faster than you might
through mainstream media sources like
the TV or new newspapers for example
there were 50 000 tweets about chat GPT
in the chat GPT announcement and how
incredible it was before the mainstream
media started picking up on it also Elon
Musk talks about how newspapers and
mainstream media coverage are generally
negative you rarely find positive news
now In fairness when you go on Twitter
most of the viral stuff seems to also be
very negative so I don't know if that's
so much of a mainstream media problem as
it is just a human condition where we're
more drawn into negative news than we
are too positive news even if like sort
of the the intro is negative and then
there's actually like okay this is what
looks negative but then here's why it
seems negative here's the context here's
the information why maybe it's not
necessarily as bad as it seems right
it's almost like the way to educate
these days is attacking head-on what is
negative news and then sort of breaking
it down into digestible information that
we can actually glean education from but
it does seem like negativity does spread
but anyway Elon Musk has this idea that
there's much less negativity on Twitter
whatever man personally I think
everybody goes onto Twitter to sh9t post
but whatever that's my take Elon does
say that the average time people spend
on Twitter is 30 minutes that works out
based on their monetizable user base
that works out to about 138 million
hours per day now Elon Musk repeatedly
said that the people who are on Twitter
and his opinion are uh maybe the smarter
bunch of people who actually try to get
educated or whatever
I'm okay I mean sure you know I'm not I
don't want to diss some people on
Twitter I personally think you get a lot
more perspective on YouTube because you
can actually go deeper into a
conversation and the thread
conversations on Twitter still suck you
like for example just the other day Newt
Gingrich is complaining about uh uh
Governor DeSantis and his legislature
potentially introducing a bill that
would require the registration of any
kind of blogger who's talking about
Executives in the State uh or the
governor right and and then there's this
whole fight going on about oh this is
censorship or no this is good or that
and like the whole bill was missing from
the context the bill is like you have to
get paid but then we want Clarity on
what is that getting paid mean right and
those are the conversations that are
usually absent from those shorter
Snippets so what I personally like to do
is if I see something trending on
Twitter I try to get more information on
it but but usually off Twitter it's kind
of interesting but anyway uh Elon Musk
says that they currently make about five
to six cents per hour of that time I did
some really quick napkin math and that
works out to about 6.9 million dollars a
day
207 million dollars per month or if you
multiply that by 12 just about 2.5
billion dollars of income at Twitter now
what's interesting is Elon Musk did end
up talking about some numbers he
mentioned that uh previously maybe they
had about 4.5 billion dollars of Revenue
and 4.5 billion dollars of costs but now
they've added on about 1.5 billion
dollars of debt and a massive decline in
ads so you've had major issues for the
sustainability of Twitter this is why
you said Twitter is trending towards
bankruptcy right because after all if
you take 4.5 and you take off somewhere
around two and a half or like 40 to 50
percent what do you end up with ah about
two and a half billion dollars which is
roughly where that five or six cent per
monetizable hour is right now now Elon
Musk thinks that they can actually uh
potentially double this triple this 5x
this number they think they could get to
15 to 25 cents of uh uh per hour of
monetization of somebody's Time by
serving up relevant ads he thinks it's
very frustrating right now that most
people who use Twitter don't actually
buy anything on Twitter because the ads
just aren't relevant whereas in the
future he envisions the opportunity to
use Twitter for oh uh here do you want
faster internet right now yes or no
that's cheaper than what you're
currently only paying and you click yes
and you have internet that's sort of
like his his thesis of how simple it
should be to be able to check out and
buy things on Twitter uh in the future
right now he says only about 20 of ads
that are delivered on Twitter are really
deemed to be relevant based on the
algorithm he also complains a lot about
the code base he talks about a fractal
Rube Goldberg machine so room Goldberg
machine is basically like a Contraption
you kind of want to think about a
cartoon Contraption like imagine you're
you you want to drink water and then you
have a helmet on and then you have like
three hoses that go into multiple
different jugs and then another hose
that comes up to you with a pump where
you have to push the pump with your foot
or something crazy just to be able to
drink water right so in other words like
the end result is the same it's like you
are thirsty so pick up bottle drink
water right but no you have this entire
contraption that makes something very
simple overly complicated right so when
you over complicate a simple task it's
very easy for it to break and so a
fractal version of this is uh so when
you think of fractal kind of think of a
cloud like how a cloud repeats itself it
just goes on and on and on or another
way to think about it is like a
kaleidoscope where you look in the
kaleidoscope and it's like man
everywhere you look it looks like you
just have a repeating pattern of the
same like Goldberg machine basically
basically and so this idea is at Twitter
that every time Elon Musk looks at
something or the team looks at something
from a code base they're like why is
this so complicated every time we change
one tiny thing we break 27 different
things this is ridiculous Elon Musk on
Twitter yesterday talked about how
eventually they might have to just
rewrite the entire code base because
it's so stupid basically the way it's
been set up right now basically you give
an example where hey look we had a bug
where people who were suspended from
being able to join certain people's
Twitter spaces could still end up
joining those spaces so we temporarily
disabled people's ability to join those
Twitter spaces but by disabling people
from being able to join spaces which is
where you have voice chat anybody who
has used using an Android phone was no
longer able to like tweets but you could
on iOS so it's kind of like this is
stupid so anyway he talks a little bit
more about the burn rate over at Twitter
he thinks the burn right now is down to
about 1.5 billion dollars they've cut a
lot of money on not only employee costs
Cloud costs down 40 employees down to 2
000 from 8 000 three data centers down
to two data centers they uh they think
they're potentially at a place where
they could be uh ebitda profitable now
but Elon Musk says well we got to get
the earnings up because our depreciation
is really high we would love to be able
to write like pay taxes because that
would mean we're actually making money
but we got to get the earnings up uh and
so Elon Musk thinks that maybe total
income minus expenditures could be
roughly equal maybe slightly positive in
the second quarter of this year and
hopefully profitable thereafter at the
end of last year they sat at 253
monetizable daily active users and Elon
Musk then makes this big sort of slam
piece uh statement where he says what
you read on Twitter is the real thing
what you read in the newspaper is not
really doesn't like the mainstream media
anyway there are social networks with
more users he says but nobody's as smart
as the users on Twitter it's a nice
compliment to the people on Twitter he
talks about his app x.com how
potentially in the future it could
actually end up becoming one of the
biggest financial institutions in the
world by making it very easy to send
money from one account to another earn
interest go into debt basically provide
people with the ultimate convenience it
sounds to me kind of like a a merge of
maybe like Zell and PayPal and banking
all in one and crypto and blockchain
like all in one together like the best
of everything together
makes sense uh probably far down the
road he says it took about 20 years to
build the Tesla management team that
it'll take a few years to build the
Twitter management team but it'll come
he talks about then Tesla and
sustainability big fan of solar and wind
and batteries not the biggest fan so
much of geothermal apparently or or the
other potential methods for um for
energy he believes that the next
generation of producing Vehicles the Gen
3 platform he actually gives us more
detail here in the very little bit of
time that he spent talking about Tesla's
next-gen uh a platform in my opinion he
gives us more detail here than he does
or did in investor day he just says look
the next gen platform is going to be for
producing a smaller car that it's going
that is going to be almost entirely
autonomous okay great so now we know
that Gen 3 is not to just make a cheaper
model 3. it's actually a totally
different car that is smaller and is
expected to be almost entirely in
autonomous mode so maybe optional
steering wheel but anyway that requires
be you know basically mastering FSD so
really interesting he then goes into
this idea about how you know people are
looking at Tesla totally the wrong way
that the total addressable Market is not
selling 20 million Vehicles it's really
that what we should be doing is thinking
about how Tesla is a software company
and once we Master autonomy you really
have a massively larger uh software
margins that basically we can get
software margins in Hardware where like
here's a car uh and maybe we do the car
for a break even but then we have like a
hundred percent software margin on on
being able to provide FSD or like 99
right it's kind of like the hardware
business just operates as a break even
potentially a Tesla and they just make a
crap load of money on the software it's
a brilliant idea in some regards it's
somewhat similar well I mean I'm not
trying to compare myself to Elon Musk
but we're we're trying we're trying to
accomplish exactly the same thing at my
real estate startup where basically
we're able to use one stream of income
to cover all of our operating expenses
and then just milk that cash flow off
something else now more details on that
later but but that's a phenomenal uh
vision and a phenomenal game plan uh it
so Elon goes on to say that look the Tam
the total addressable Market is huge
it's all humans because really you could
5 to 10x the value of a car in that cars
that you're usually sitting around not
being used for but maybe 10 to 12 hours
on average per week could in the future
be used somewhere between 50 to maybe
100 hours his phrase was 50 to 60 so
closer to five to six x so that was neat
and it makes a lot of sense I mean I
kind of think about it from the point of
view of if you sell a 25 000 vehicle if
you could reduce the cost of goods sold
by 50 fantastic you could still have a
25 to 30 margin that's great but if you
needed to go to zero margin and only
make money off FSD you could literally
get back to a 25 margin solely with FSD
sales and no Hardware margin like the
margin of safety at Tesla is so freaking
phenomenal it's one of the reasons it's
my largest holding uh you know in not
only personally but also in in you know
Financial products out of management but
uh all that aside uh so then Elon Musk
jumps into starlink talks about how they
have basically more than half of all of
the satellites in orbit right now you
got to get to low earth uh low orbit
levels with satellites to make sure you
can provide low latency internet and he
gives some technical comparisons about
light traveling in a vacuum uh versus
through fiber optic cable and he
believes that light uh well
scientifically light travels faster uh
in a vacuum than it does through fiber
and he believes he can accomplish a lot
of those similar benefits by sending
data through low Earth satellites which
I'm personally not a scientist I don't
know maybe but you could say that the
the uh you know what's between satellite
one and satellite 2 is in a vacuum but
I'm not really sure how that data from
the satellite to the user is considered
to be in a vacuum since you're going
through the Earth's atmosphere but maybe
that's not the point maybe the point is
just saying like hey like we use fiber
optic cable to go from continent to
continent why use that cable when we
could use something that's maybe 40
percent and faster Like Satellites I
think that's probably more the direction
he's using maybe somebody can fact check
me in the comments of that but anyway uh
so then he talks a little bit about the
Starship how they hope to launch it uh
next uh month they think there's a 50
chance of reaching orbit and the only
guarantee Elon Musk gives is that it
will be extremely extremely entertaining
so anyway uh personally I thought this
was more interesting than investor day
yes thank you so much for asking that
question Darby mostly because like all
of the the details are fantastic of
investor day like I did like the
takeaways about the robots and basically
the the parallel manufacturing I thought
some of those details were phenomenal
some of the additional details on cost
structure reduction I mean look
absolutely phenomenal but I think that
was not an investor Day presentation
that was more of an engineering
presentation if if that was just labeled
engineering presentation you know what
fine perfect fantastic an investor day
style presentation would be more like
look our goal is next vehicle 50 the
cost it's uh it's gonna be a smaller
vehicle mostly autonomous total
addressable Market infinitely greater
than what people are expecting right
like the things he said today gave much
more color to the Future cash flow
potential of Tesla than uh than than the
investor they did the investor and
that's because we already went into
investor day expecting that the next gen
platform was going to have a 50 cost
reduction it was just sort of like
here's how right as opposed to more of
sort of a forecast uh anywho uh yeah
maybe it was an opportunity for Tesla to
show off the team I personally think
they could have coordinated that a
little bit better right so that's been
sort of my argument is that like maybe
everybody could have done a dry run of
the presentation because some people
didn't sound like super prepared for it
kind of didn't seem like Elon Musk
really was fully aware of what everybody
was going to talk about it's kind of
like ah here I am okay let's throw this
together which fine it ended up working
out just fine anyway and uh look
obviously still still a big fan of Tesla
but do I have my criticisms of course uh
and if somebody is you know doesn't want
to hear criticism then and balanced
opinion then probably you don't want to
listen to my channel anyway because
that's always my goal is to try to sort
of balance things out but I mean when
you compare Tesla to the competition I
mean who else is doing what Tesla's
doing and I think that's the big
question it's certainly not Ford or GM
they're not even close to profitable yet
it's certainly not uh uh you know Neo or
byd I mean these these companies are
focusing on either using Nvidia software
uh over at Neo or you're looking at
adaptive cruise control over at byd
there is no priority on autonomy right
now so people keep comparing Tesla to
other companies but really what you
should be doing is comparing autonomous
driving vehicle platforms it may be
comparing Tesla to waymo but now waymo
is cutting off P or is laying people off
from its staff that's kind of like why
you know so I I don't know and I know
people say oh but Elon Musk has had
layoffs too yeah but not necessarily in
the FSD team the auto labelers after
they wanted to unionize they had a
little bit of a off though I think 26 of
them got fired but anyway I find it very
interesting so uh those are just some
thoughts uh some things to think about I
like that Tesla investor they showed off
all the team yeah of course I mean I
think that's also a big deal right it's
kind of like hey here's the management
team that is uh that's definitely a big
deal because you you want some
confidence that Tesla can also operate
even without Elon Musk that does take
sometimes years to a decade for a
company to actually build Elon Musk one
as far as saying it takes 20 years but
uh yeah take it from there anyway thanks
so much for watching we'll see you next
one bye
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