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What Elon Musk JUST Said about Tesla, Twitter, and SpaceX

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well Elon Musk just had a surprise

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discussion with Morgan Stanley on

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everything from Twitter to Tesla to

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SpaceX and starlink let's go through and

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cover some of the latest that Elon just

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told us and what did he tell us about

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that next Generation vehicle and what

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else did he have to say about Twitter's

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profitability well first he started out

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his

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um discussion with Morgan Stanley

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analyst talking about how the goal is to

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find the truth that was one of the

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reasons Elon Musk wanted to buy Twitter

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is to make sure that the truth can be

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spread as much as possible now that

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doesn't mean there's not going to be a

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lot of BS but you want the truth with

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the lowest level of error rate and

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that's why they're expanding that

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Community notes feature on Twitter which

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one of the things that I noticed that I

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thought was really neat was there were a

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few ads that were running on Twitter and

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they would say things like uh why borrow

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from a bank when you could borrow yours

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from yourself by using a home equity

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line of credit and I'm like home equity

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line of credit is from like a credit

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union usually or a bank and so I saw

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that ad and then after that which this

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is an Advertiser paying money to sustain

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Twitter's viability right the community

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notes actually put a comment underneath

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that ad saying ah this is not exactly

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accurate you're not borrowing from

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yourself you're borrowing from a bank

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using the equity in your home and I'm

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like yeah like that's awesome like we

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should have more like more Community

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notes like that to prevent uh the spread

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of just straight up false information

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right we're not trying to play the

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controlling the left or the right or the

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narrative it's just like if stuff is

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totally wrong like it'd be nice to add

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some context or Clarity right whether

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it's sarcasm or it's meant to be

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deceiving or otherwise right Community

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notes have been useful for that so I

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think that's pretty interesting I also

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think it's interesting that Elon Musk

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starts by talking about over at Twitter

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what's uh neat is you actually tend to

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get news much faster than you might

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through mainstream media sources like

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the TV or new newspapers for example

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there were 50 000 tweets about chat GPT

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in the chat GPT announcement and how

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incredible it was before the mainstream

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media started picking up on it also Elon

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Musk talks about how newspapers and

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mainstream media coverage are generally

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negative you rarely find positive news

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now In fairness when you go on Twitter

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most of the viral stuff seems to also be

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very negative so I don't know if that's

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so much of a mainstream media problem as

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it is just a human condition where we're

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more drawn into negative news than we

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are too positive news even if like sort

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of the the intro is negative and then

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there's actually like okay this is what

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looks negative but then here's why it

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seems negative here's the context here's

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the information why maybe it's not

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necessarily as bad as it seems right

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it's almost like the way to educate

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these days is attacking head-on what is

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negative news and then sort of breaking

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it down into digestible information that

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we can actually glean education from but

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it does seem like negativity does spread

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but anyway Elon Musk has this idea that

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there's much less negativity on Twitter

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whatever man personally I think

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everybody goes onto Twitter to sh9t post

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but whatever that's my take Elon does

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say that the average time people spend

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on Twitter is 30 minutes that works out

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based on their monetizable user base

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that works out to about 138 million

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hours per day now Elon Musk repeatedly

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said that the people who are on Twitter

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and his opinion are uh maybe the smarter

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bunch of people who actually try to get

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educated or whatever

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I'm okay I mean sure you know I'm not I

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don't want to diss some people on

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Twitter I personally think you get a lot

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more perspective on YouTube because you

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can actually go deeper into a

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conversation and the thread

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conversations on Twitter still suck you

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like for example just the other day Newt

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Gingrich is complaining about uh uh

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Governor DeSantis and his legislature

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potentially introducing a bill that

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would require the registration of any

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kind of blogger who's talking about

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Executives in the State uh or the

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governor right and and then there's this

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whole fight going on about oh this is

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censorship or no this is good or that

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and like the whole bill was missing from

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the context the bill is like you have to

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get paid but then we want Clarity on

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what is that getting paid mean right and

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those are the conversations that are

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usually absent from those shorter

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Snippets so what I personally like to do

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is if I see something trending on

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Twitter I try to get more information on

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it but but usually off Twitter it's kind

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of interesting but anyway uh Elon Musk

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says that they currently make about five

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to six cents per hour of that time I did

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some really quick napkin math and that

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works out to about 6.9 million dollars a

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day

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207 million dollars per month or if you

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multiply that by 12 just about 2.5

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billion dollars of income at Twitter now

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what's interesting is Elon Musk did end

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up talking about some numbers he

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mentioned that uh previously maybe they

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had about 4.5 billion dollars of Revenue

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and 4.5 billion dollars of costs but now

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they've added on about 1.5 billion

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dollars of debt and a massive decline in

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ads so you've had major issues for the

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sustainability of Twitter this is why

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you said Twitter is trending towards

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bankruptcy right because after all if

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you take 4.5 and you take off somewhere

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around two and a half or like 40 to 50

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percent what do you end up with ah about

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two and a half billion dollars which is

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roughly where that five or six cent per

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monetizable hour is right now now Elon

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Musk thinks that they can actually uh

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potentially double this triple this 5x

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this number they think they could get to

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15 to 25 cents of uh uh per hour of

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monetization of somebody's Time by

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serving up relevant ads he thinks it's

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very frustrating right now that most

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people who use Twitter don't actually

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buy anything on Twitter because the ads

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just aren't relevant whereas in the

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future he envisions the opportunity to

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use Twitter for oh uh here do you want

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faster internet right now yes or no

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that's cheaper than what you're

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currently only paying and you click yes

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and you have internet that's sort of

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like his his thesis of how simple it

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should be to be able to check out and

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buy things on Twitter uh in the future

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right now he says only about 20 of ads

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that are delivered on Twitter are really

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deemed to be relevant based on the

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algorithm he also complains a lot about

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the code base he talks about a fractal

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Rube Goldberg machine so room Goldberg

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machine is basically like a Contraption

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you kind of want to think about a

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cartoon Contraption like imagine you're

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you you want to drink water and then you

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have a helmet on and then you have like

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three hoses that go into multiple

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different jugs and then another hose

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that comes up to you with a pump where

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you have to push the pump with your foot

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or something crazy just to be able to

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drink water right so in other words like

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the end result is the same it's like you

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are thirsty so pick up bottle drink

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water right but no you have this entire

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contraption that makes something very

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simple overly complicated right so when

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you over complicate a simple task it's

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very easy for it to break and so a

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fractal version of this is uh so when

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you think of fractal kind of think of a

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cloud like how a cloud repeats itself it

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just goes on and on and on or another

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way to think about it is like a

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kaleidoscope where you look in the

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kaleidoscope and it's like man

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everywhere you look it looks like you

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just have a repeating pattern of the

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same like Goldberg machine basically

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basically and so this idea is at Twitter

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that every time Elon Musk looks at

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something or the team looks at something

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from a code base they're like why is

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this so complicated every time we change

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one tiny thing we break 27 different

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things this is ridiculous Elon Musk on

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Twitter yesterday talked about how

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eventually they might have to just

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rewrite the entire code base because

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it's so stupid basically the way it's

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been set up right now basically you give

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an example where hey look we had a bug

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where people who were suspended from

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being able to join certain people's

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Twitter spaces could still end up

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joining those spaces so we temporarily

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disabled people's ability to join those

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Twitter spaces but by disabling people

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from being able to join spaces which is

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where you have voice chat anybody who

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has used using an Android phone was no

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longer able to like tweets but you could

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on iOS so it's kind of like this is

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stupid so anyway he talks a little bit

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more about the burn rate over at Twitter

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he thinks the burn right now is down to

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about 1.5 billion dollars they've cut a

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lot of money on not only employee costs

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Cloud costs down 40 employees down to 2

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000 from 8 000 three data centers down

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to two data centers they uh they think

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they're potentially at a place where

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they could be uh ebitda profitable now

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but Elon Musk says well we got to get

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the earnings up because our depreciation

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is really high we would love to be able

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to write like pay taxes because that

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would mean we're actually making money

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but we got to get the earnings up uh and

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so Elon Musk thinks that maybe total

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income minus expenditures could be

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roughly equal maybe slightly positive in

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the second quarter of this year and

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hopefully profitable thereafter at the

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end of last year they sat at 253

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monetizable daily active users and Elon

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Musk then makes this big sort of slam

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piece uh statement where he says what

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you read on Twitter is the real thing

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what you read in the newspaper is not

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really doesn't like the mainstream media

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anyway there are social networks with

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more users he says but nobody's as smart

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as the users on Twitter it's a nice

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compliment to the people on Twitter he

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talks about his app x.com how

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potentially in the future it could

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actually end up becoming one of the

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biggest financial institutions in the

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world by making it very easy to send

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money from one account to another earn

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interest go into debt basically provide

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people with the ultimate convenience it

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sounds to me kind of like a a merge of

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maybe like Zell and PayPal and banking

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all in one and crypto and blockchain

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like all in one together like the best

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of everything together

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makes sense uh probably far down the

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road he says it took about 20 years to

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build the Tesla management team that

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it'll take a few years to build the

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Twitter management team but it'll come

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he talks about then Tesla and

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sustainability big fan of solar and wind

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and batteries not the biggest fan so

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much of geothermal apparently or or the

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other potential methods for um for

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energy he believes that the next

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generation of producing Vehicles the Gen

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3 platform he actually gives us more

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detail here in the very little bit of

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time that he spent talking about Tesla's

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next-gen uh a platform in my opinion he

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gives us more detail here than he does

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or did in investor day he just says look

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the next gen platform is going to be for

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producing a smaller car that it's going

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that is going to be almost entirely

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autonomous okay great so now we know

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that Gen 3 is not to just make a cheaper

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model 3. it's actually a totally

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different car that is smaller and is

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expected to be almost entirely in

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autonomous mode so maybe optional

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steering wheel but anyway that requires

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be you know basically mastering FSD so

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really interesting he then goes into

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this idea about how you know people are

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looking at Tesla totally the wrong way

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that the total addressable Market is not

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selling 20 million Vehicles it's really

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that what we should be doing is thinking

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about how Tesla is a software company

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and once we Master autonomy you really

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have a massively larger uh software

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margins that basically we can get

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software margins in Hardware where like

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here's a car uh and maybe we do the car

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for a break even but then we have like a

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hundred percent software margin on on

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being able to provide FSD or like 99

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right it's kind of like the hardware

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business just operates as a break even

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potentially a Tesla and they just make a

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crap load of money on the software it's

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a brilliant idea in some regards it's

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somewhat similar well I mean I'm not

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trying to compare myself to Elon Musk

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but we're we're trying we're trying to

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accomplish exactly the same thing at my

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real estate startup where basically

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we're able to use one stream of income

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to cover all of our operating expenses

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and then just milk that cash flow off

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something else now more details on that

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later but but that's a phenomenal uh

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vision and a phenomenal game plan uh it

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so Elon goes on to say that look the Tam

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the total addressable Market is huge

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it's all humans because really you could

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5 to 10x the value of a car in that cars

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that you're usually sitting around not

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being used for but maybe 10 to 12 hours

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on average per week could in the future

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be used somewhere between 50 to maybe

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100 hours his phrase was 50 to 60 so

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closer to five to six x so that was neat

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and it makes a lot of sense I mean I

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kind of think about it from the point of

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view of if you sell a 25 000 vehicle if

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you could reduce the cost of goods sold

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by 50 fantastic you could still have a

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25 to 30 margin that's great but if you

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needed to go to zero margin and only

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make money off FSD you could literally

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get back to a 25 margin solely with FSD

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sales and no Hardware margin like the

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margin of safety at Tesla is so freaking

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phenomenal it's one of the reasons it's

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my largest holding uh you know in not

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only personally but also in in you know

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Financial products out of management but

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uh all that aside uh so then Elon Musk

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jumps into starlink talks about how they

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have basically more than half of all of

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the satellites in orbit right now you

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got to get to low earth uh low orbit

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levels with satellites to make sure you

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can provide low latency internet and he

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gives some technical comparisons about

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light traveling in a vacuum uh versus

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through fiber optic cable and he

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believes that light uh well

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scientifically light travels faster uh

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in a vacuum than it does through fiber

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and he believes he can accomplish a lot

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of those similar benefits by sending

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data through low Earth satellites which

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I'm personally not a scientist I don't

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know maybe but you could say that the

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the uh you know what's between satellite

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one and satellite 2 is in a vacuum but

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I'm not really sure how that data from

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the satellite to the user is considered

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to be in a vacuum since you're going

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through the Earth's atmosphere but maybe

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that's not the point maybe the point is

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just saying like hey like we use fiber

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optic cable to go from continent to

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continent why use that cable when we

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could use something that's maybe 40

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percent and faster Like Satellites I

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think that's probably more the direction

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he's using maybe somebody can fact check

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me in the comments of that but anyway uh

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so then he talks a little bit about the

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Starship how they hope to launch it uh

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next uh month they think there's a 50

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chance of reaching orbit and the only

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guarantee Elon Musk gives is that it

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will be extremely extremely entertaining

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so anyway uh personally I thought this

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was more interesting than investor day

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yes thank you so much for asking that

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question Darby mostly because like all

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of the the details are fantastic of

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investor day like I did like the

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takeaways about the robots and basically

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the the parallel manufacturing I thought

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some of those details were phenomenal

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some of the additional details on cost

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structure reduction I mean look

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absolutely phenomenal but I think that

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was not an investor Day presentation

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that was more of an engineering

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presentation if if that was just labeled

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engineering presentation you know what

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fine perfect fantastic an investor day

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style presentation would be more like

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look our goal is next vehicle 50 the

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cost it's uh it's gonna be a smaller

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vehicle mostly autonomous total

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addressable Market infinitely greater

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than what people are expecting right

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like the things he said today gave much

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more color to the Future cash flow

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potential of Tesla than uh than than the

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investor they did the investor and

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that's because we already went into

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investor day expecting that the next gen

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platform was going to have a 50 cost

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reduction it was just sort of like

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here's how right as opposed to more of

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sort of a forecast uh anywho uh yeah

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maybe it was an opportunity for Tesla to

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show off the team I personally think

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they could have coordinated that a

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little bit better right so that's been

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sort of my argument is that like maybe

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everybody could have done a dry run of

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the presentation because some people

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didn't sound like super prepared for it

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kind of didn't seem like Elon Musk

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really was fully aware of what everybody

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was going to talk about it's kind of

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like ah here I am okay let's throw this

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together which fine it ended up working

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out just fine anyway and uh look

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obviously still still a big fan of Tesla

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but do I have my criticisms of course uh

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and if somebody is you know doesn't want

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to hear criticism then and balanced

15:47

opinion then probably you don't want to

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listen to my channel anyway because

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that's always my goal is to try to sort

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of balance things out but I mean when

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you compare Tesla to the competition I

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mean who else is doing what Tesla's

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doing and I think that's the big

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question it's certainly not Ford or GM

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they're not even close to profitable yet

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it's certainly not uh uh you know Neo or

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byd I mean these these companies are

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focusing on either using Nvidia software

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uh over at Neo or you're looking at

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adaptive cruise control over at byd

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there is no priority on autonomy right

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now so people keep comparing Tesla to

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other companies but really what you

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should be doing is comparing autonomous

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driving vehicle platforms it may be

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comparing Tesla to waymo but now waymo

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is cutting off P or is laying people off

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from its staff that's kind of like why

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you know so I I don't know and I know

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people say oh but Elon Musk has had

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layoffs too yeah but not necessarily in

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the FSD team the auto labelers after

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they wanted to unionize they had a

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little bit of a off though I think 26 of

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them got fired but anyway I find it very

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interesting so uh those are just some

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thoughts uh some things to think about I

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like that Tesla investor they showed off

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all the team yeah of course I mean I

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think that's also a big deal right it's

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kind of like hey here's the management

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team that is uh that's definitely a big

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deal because you you want some

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confidence that Tesla can also operate

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even without Elon Musk that does take

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sometimes years to a decade for a

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company to actually build Elon Musk one

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as far as saying it takes 20 years but

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uh yeah take it from there anyway thanks

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so much for watching we'll see you next

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one bye

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