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Job's Data REVISED DOWN - WTF Warning [JOLTS Oops!]

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well what just happened with jobs data

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because we just got a shock as in we

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were expecting to have relatively stable

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jobs data and I don't know what it is

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but other people are pointing this out

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as well last month we have this big beat

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and oh the job dated the job openings

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are great everything's fine maybe it's

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seasonal hiring for FEMA work or

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seasonal workers at Amazon or I don't

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know pole workers right but now what do

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you have now they tell us that job

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openings were actually lower last uh you

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know in August in the last report we

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went down from 8.04 million openings

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down to 7.86 one and then this report

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which was supposed to come in at 8

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million comes in at just 7.44 3 now the

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details of these reports matter as well

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and you've even got Nick T tweeting

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about it and let's just put it this way

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he doesn't sound that optimistic about

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it in fact here you go you can follow me

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on Twitter by the way I'm at real meet

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Kevin or as many of the Elon fans like

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to say x well everybody I supposed

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should say that because that's what he

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wants it to be called but whatever uh

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also there's this little note musk says

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there's a 10 to 20% chance that AI goes

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bad not sure why that's there but uh

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whatever we'll give it a like because I

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like uh that account so Nick T whom I

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also like so I'll give them a like job

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openings fell in September and were

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revised down for August putting the

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3month moving average at its lowest

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level since the reopening in the spring

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of 2021 there were fewer than 1.1 posted

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job vacancies for every worker counted

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as unemployed in September this is not

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great because look over here what did

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you get into the plummet in the Great

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Recession over here job openings falling

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are very difficult to just stop like

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once you start getting this collapse in

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job openings it's very very difficult

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ult to get it to recover uh and the

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problem that you're facing is you're

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getting a lot of companies that are

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shrinking now I want to go into the

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joltz reports in just a moment and we

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can see some of these data this data a

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little bit more here for example is the

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uh 3-month moving average on these

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numbers but I want you to just think for

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a moment look at what's going on with

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the consumer companies for a moment I

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want you to look at Sofi Sofi reports

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disappointing outlook for the future uh

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you know next quarter and next year what

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do you get you're down

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7.3% McDonald's home of affordability

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and eoli up because affordability is

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challenged Crocs flat Revenue growth

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down 18% today people are so challenged

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on affordability that they're now buying

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smaller homes instead of buying homes

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they're buying more attached tow houses

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this is what DR Horton said in their

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report this morning and uh they're

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buying homes that are a smaller square

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footage than ever before as a result of

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that what do you have DR Horton stock

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home builder stock what do you got down

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let's focus on this I mean the consumer

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is suffering to the point where even

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when you look at United Parcel Service

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UPS people are like oh their their

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revenues were so great at at earnings

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and the company actually jumped uh after

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earnings but it bled right back out

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because when people started reading into

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the details they're like wait a minute

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UPS is only doing well because they're

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squeezing out a little bit more

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efficiency they're actually firing

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long-term

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workers they think this seasonal holiday

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season seasonal holiday this holiday

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season will be more quote tempered than

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expected and while the consumer is

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strong today nobody knows how long it's

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going to last see we did have consumer

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confidence numbers that came out this

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morning and they were fantastic well no

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duh the stock market's at all-time highs

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consumer confidence is one of the

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greatest lagging indicators when the

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stock market goes up consumer confidence

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goes up afterwards it happens almost

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every single time just look at the

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charts well when people lose their jobs

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they stop praying for deflation because

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they start realizing that deflation

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leads to wage deflation and so what do

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we actually have with the data well look

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at the data I'm going to take you into

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the tables because I like to go into the

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tables I want to see the details what do

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the details say I always say the proof

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the devil is in the

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details uh table number seven still no

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indication in major pickup of

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separations like layoffs right but

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that's okay I wouldn't expect that in a

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September jolts report which is what

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this is anyway I would expect that in

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January not now I expect layoffs in

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January just like I expect Donald

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Trump's stock to continue to get halted

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as it's on its meteoric rise although

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today it's gone from like positive 20%

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to minus 2.8% and now it's halted again

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uh but that's a really a topic for a

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different video so what do you have over

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here job openings every category in

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seasonally adjusted job openings folks

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every single category negative negative

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negative negative here's one flat uh and

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then negative so keep that in mind for a

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moment the

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Outlook uh for new hires flat to

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negative that is not an excellent

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Outlook uh and and I want to clarify on

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Sofi I should should just mention that

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their their forecast was for growth but

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only 3.4% growth on

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Sofi and that was deemed much weaker

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than the market had expected because in

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this last quarter they actually had a

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great beat they beat by 12% uh on

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adjusted IA they beat by 8.6% on net

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revenue but when you go from 8 to 12%

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beats to forecasting a 3% beat markets

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are going oh where'd the growth go it's

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kind of like with Crocs you know Crocs

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tells you flat going forward not great

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growth forecast disappointed at PayPal

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as well you know where United States

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sales are going up is that

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McDonald's us uh or McDonald's

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international sales missed this morning

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but Us sales were up because people are

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trading down to

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McDonald's I hate to say it but it's

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true in fact in recessions McDonald's

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actually performs less bad than other

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stocks usually uh but anyway take a look

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at this so you're negative to flat on

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every category on job openings you still

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got some hiring going on though some

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people wonder how much of this is you

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know seasonal again this is supposed to

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be the seasonally adjusted report but

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even the hiring is pretty flat I mean

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positive one negative one positive 3

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positive 1 negative 1 positive 1 zero

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these are pretty flat numbers on

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different sizes here right you're not

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really getting a massive separation yet

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in the smaller companies you are in the

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larger companies you're not okay it

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roughly evens out right uh and and then

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you're really not getting people

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quitting which is very normal because

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when people start getting nervous uh

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about their ability to get a new job

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people stop quitting you're at the

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lowest levels of quits compared to

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August or last year you're the lowest

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levels of quits normal if you go to the

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non seasonally adjusted figures so we go

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from seasonally adjusted to

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non-seasonally adjusted all categories

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for job openings are down with the

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exception of one you have uh 1,000 to

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5,000 employees positive but outside of

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that.2 .8 negative 1 negative 1 negative

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1 positive4

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ne4 so this is overwhelmingly negative

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again the quits rate is falling

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signaling less confidence in job Place

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uh and you have lower separations which

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is normal but folks once this once this

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layoff cycle begins it doesn't end and I

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think it's probably coming January

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February I think you've got one last

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little hurah where companies are like

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yeah we squeeze some margins yeah we

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beat on Q3 and Q4 yeah holiday season

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yeah let's keep our workers what happens

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in January in January people start

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saying that's it we're cutting guess

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what Starbucks is doing Starbucks come

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January if you're not back to work in

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the office you're fired for their

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corporate staff that's the kind of stuff

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that's going to keep happening it's

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going going to get worse in January I

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think the worst of the jobs reports

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aren't coming now during the holiday

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season they come when people are jully

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uh let's analyze for a moment uh the uh

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jul uh job

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openings and let's just take a look for

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a moment at the Historical job openings

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level I Hope they've yeah they've

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already updated this which is fantastic

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so this is just a historical chart on

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the St Louis fret Unfortunately they

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started this over here in 2001 but even

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in 2001 2000 you could see this peaked

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out the recession began in March and you

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get a downturn associated with a

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recession just like you had a downturn

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in the jolts associated with the

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recession in 2008 oh but maybe this time

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is different you know you can also go to

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uh the quits levels here let's see

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construction oh let's look at

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construction for a moment let look at

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construction yeah it drops again a

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little bit not a surprise you really

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probably have to smooth this out so if I

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go with the quarterly reads uh oh yeah

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quarter L doesn't look too good usually

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that's a recessionary indicator DR

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Horton also this morning mentioned that

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uh they have a shorter lead times now in

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uh uh the building of new homes which

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you know is an indicator that

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construction is becoming a little bit

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more available uh not great either and

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then the quits rate is usually something

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we watch as well just as a tell that

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when times get harder in an economy

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people are less confident about their

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jobs they quit less frequently and you

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can look right now the quits rate is at

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1.9 which is actually as low as what we

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saw in about 2002 and 2003 it was not

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this low in 2005 and six hit it again in

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the recession and after the recession we

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were even lower uh but you didn't see

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this in

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2016 17 18 you know post pandemic

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obviously during the pandemic there you

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had some quits uh so I don't know if

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it's necessarily like horrible data

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wouldn't say I don't I don't think the

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data is horrible at all but it is a red

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flag that some of the data that we got

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in September uh or sorry in September

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for August might end up getting revised

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down substantially uh and we've got a

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lot more jobs data coming uh not only do

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we have earnings this week that we're

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going to be paying attention to uh but

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we're going to be paying attention to

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the ADP private jobs report tomorrow

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unemployment claims and the Challenger

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report on Thursday jobs report on Friday

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morning I'll be covering it all uh and

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then of course today in the the

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