Job's Data REVISED DOWN - WTF Warning [JOLTS Oops!]
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well what just happened with jobs data
because we just got a shock as in we
were expecting to have relatively stable
jobs data and I don't know what it is
but other people are pointing this out
as well last month we have this big beat
and oh the job dated the job openings
are great everything's fine maybe it's
seasonal hiring for FEMA work or
seasonal workers at Amazon or I don't
know pole workers right but now what do
you have now they tell us that job
openings were actually lower last uh you
know in August in the last report we
went down from 8.04 million openings
down to 7.86 one and then this report
which was supposed to come in at 8
million comes in at just 7.44 3 now the
details of these reports matter as well
and you've even got Nick T tweeting
about it and let's just put it this way
he doesn't sound that optimistic about
it in fact here you go you can follow me
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Kevin or as many of the Elon fans like
to say x well everybody I supposed
should say that because that's what he
wants it to be called but whatever uh
also there's this little note musk says
there's a 10 to 20% chance that AI goes
bad not sure why that's there but uh
whatever we'll give it a like because I
like uh that account so Nick T whom I
also like so I'll give them a like job
openings fell in September and were
revised down for August putting the
3month moving average at its lowest
level since the reopening in the spring
of 2021 there were fewer than 1.1 posted
job vacancies for every worker counted
as unemployed in September this is not
great because look over here what did
you get into the plummet in the Great
Recession over here job openings falling
are very difficult to just stop like
once you start getting this collapse in
job openings it's very very difficult
ult to get it to recover uh and the
problem that you're facing is you're
getting a lot of companies that are
shrinking now I want to go into the
joltz reports in just a moment and we
can see some of these data this data a
little bit more here for example is the
uh 3-month moving average on these
numbers but I want you to just think for
a moment look at what's going on with
the consumer companies for a moment I
want you to look at Sofi Sofi reports
disappointing outlook for the future uh
you know next quarter and next year what
do you get you're down
7.3% McDonald's home of affordability
and eoli up because affordability is
challenged Crocs flat Revenue growth
down 18% today people are so challenged
on affordability that they're now buying
smaller homes instead of buying homes
they're buying more attached tow houses
this is what DR Horton said in their
report this morning and uh they're
buying homes that are a smaller square
footage than ever before as a result of
that what do you have DR Horton stock
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let's focus on this I mean the consumer
is suffering to the point where even
when you look at United Parcel Service
UPS people are like oh their their
revenues were so great at at earnings
and the company actually jumped uh after
earnings but it bled right back out
because when people started reading into
the details they're like wait a minute
UPS is only doing well because they're
squeezing out a little bit more
efficiency they're actually firing
long-term
workers they think this seasonal holiday
season seasonal holiday this holiday
season will be more quote tempered than
expected and while the consumer is
strong today nobody knows how long it's
going to last see we did have consumer
confidence numbers that came out this
morning and they were fantastic well no
duh the stock market's at all-time highs
consumer confidence is one of the
greatest lagging indicators when the
stock market goes up consumer confidence
goes up afterwards it happens almost
every single time just look at the
charts well when people lose their jobs
they stop praying for deflation because
they start realizing that deflation
leads to wage deflation and so what do
we actually have with the data well look
at the data I'm going to take you into
the tables because I like to go into the
tables I want to see the details what do
the details say I always say the proof
the devil is in the
details uh table number seven still no
indication in major pickup of
separations like layoffs right but
that's okay I wouldn't expect that in a
September jolts report which is what
this is anyway I would expect that in
January not now I expect layoffs in
January just like I expect Donald
Trump's stock to continue to get halted
as it's on its meteoric rise although
today it's gone from like positive 20%
to minus 2.8% and now it's halted again
uh but that's a really a topic for a
different video so what do you have over
here job openings every category in
seasonally adjusted job openings folks
every single category negative negative
negative negative here's one flat uh and
then negative so keep that in mind for a
moment the
Outlook uh for new hires flat to
negative that is not an excellent
Outlook uh and and I want to clarify on
Sofi I should should just mention that
their their forecast was for growth but
only 3.4% growth on
Sofi and that was deemed much weaker
than the market had expected because in
this last quarter they actually had a
great beat they beat by 12% uh on
adjusted IA they beat by 8.6% on net
revenue but when you go from 8 to 12%
beats to forecasting a 3% beat markets
are going oh where'd the growth go it's
kind of like with Crocs you know Crocs
tells you flat going forward not great
growth forecast disappointed at PayPal
as well you know where United States
sales are going up is that
McDonald's us uh or McDonald's
international sales missed this morning
but Us sales were up because people are
trading down to
McDonald's I hate to say it but it's
true in fact in recessions McDonald's
actually performs less bad than other
stocks usually uh but anyway take a look
at this so you're negative to flat on
every category on job openings you still
got some hiring going on though some
people wonder how much of this is you
know seasonal again this is supposed to
be the seasonally adjusted report but
even the hiring is pretty flat I mean
positive one negative one positive 3
positive 1 negative 1 positive 1 zero
these are pretty flat numbers on
different sizes here right you're not
really getting a massive separation yet
in the smaller companies you are in the
larger companies you're not okay it
roughly evens out right uh and and then
you're really not getting people
quitting which is very normal because
when people start getting nervous uh
about their ability to get a new job
people stop quitting you're at the
lowest levels of quits compared to
August or last year you're the lowest
levels of quits normal if you go to the
non seasonally adjusted figures so we go
from seasonally adjusted to
non-seasonally adjusted all categories
for job openings are down with the
exception of one you have uh 1,000 to
5,000 employees positive but outside of
that.2 .8 negative 1 negative 1 negative
1 positive4
ne4 so this is overwhelmingly negative
again the quits rate is falling
signaling less confidence in job Place
uh and you have lower separations which
is normal but folks once this once this
layoff cycle begins it doesn't end and I
think it's probably coming January
February I think you've got one last
little hurah where companies are like
yeah we squeeze some margins yeah we
beat on Q3 and Q4 yeah holiday season
yeah let's keep our workers what happens
in January in January people start
saying that's it we're cutting guess
what Starbucks is doing Starbucks come
January if you're not back to work in
the office you're fired for their
corporate staff that's the kind of stuff
that's going to keep happening it's
going going to get worse in January I
think the worst of the jobs reports
aren't coming now during the holiday
season they come when people are jully
out of money in the dollar hallas in
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uh let's analyze for a moment uh the uh
jul uh job
openings and let's just take a look for
a moment at the Historical job openings
level I Hope they've yeah they've
already updated this which is fantastic
so this is just a historical chart on
the St Louis fret Unfortunately they
started this over here in 2001 but even
in 2001 2000 you could see this peaked
out the recession began in March and you
get a downturn associated with a
recession just like you had a downturn
in the jolts associated with the
recession in 2008 oh but maybe this time
is different you know you can also go to
uh the quits levels here let's see
construction oh let's look at
construction for a moment let look at
construction yeah it drops again a
little bit not a surprise you really
probably have to smooth this out so if I
go with the quarterly reads uh oh yeah
quarter L doesn't look too good usually
that's a recessionary indicator DR
Horton also this morning mentioned that
uh they have a shorter lead times now in
uh uh the building of new homes which
you know is an indicator that
construction is becoming a little bit
more available uh not great either and
then the quits rate is usually something
we watch as well just as a tell that
when times get harder in an economy
people are less confident about their
jobs they quit less frequently and you
can look right now the quits rate is at
1.9 which is actually as low as what we
saw in about 2002 and 2003 it was not
this low in 2005 and six hit it again in
the recession and after the recession we
were even lower uh but you didn't see
this in
2016 17 18 you know post pandemic
obviously during the pandemic there you
had some quits uh so I don't know if
it's necessarily like horrible data
wouldn't say I don't I don't think the
data is horrible at all but it is a red
flag that some of the data that we got
in September uh or sorry in September
for August might end up getting revised
down substantially uh and we've got a
lot more jobs data coming uh not only do
we have earnings this week that we're
going to be paying attention to uh but
we're going to be paying attention to
the ADP private jobs report tomorrow
unemployment claims and the Challenger
report on Thursday jobs report on Friday
morning I'll be covering it all uh and
then of course today in the the
afternoon I'll be live for this as well
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