The SEC is Cancelling Coinbase | Disaster.
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hey everyone meet Kevin here coinbase
has just been warned by the SEC of
potential Securities charges via a Wells
notice which was named after a dude in
the 70s whose last name was Wells and he
thought it'd be the right thing to give
people a heads up that they were about
to get charged by the SEC so that way
they'd have a chance to provide some
more information to the SEC to basically
maybe not get charged by the SEC and
they thought that was a nice thing to do
now it's very interesting that this
happens right after apparently Kathy
Woods sold about 13 million dollars uh
in in shares of coinbase I don't know
how much that terribly matters though
given that they have a massive
837 million dollar position in coinbase
uh that's actually a little scary for
for Arc here although I don't think Arc
is really heavily worried about crypto
regulation not coming I think it's a
matter of if not uh or it's a matter of
when not if you're going to end up
getting approvals for things like crypto
ETF but right now the regulatory Waters
around crypto are pretty hot and
unfortunately for uh our
coinbase sits at a 6.35 holding out of
all combined funds for Arc and vast uh
sitting at a uh basically an average
position of 200 around 45 dollars for
the three uh different fund positions
they have for coinbase they have a
market value of nearly a billion dollars
837 million dollars in coinbase so the
idea that Kathy's selling 13 million
dollars of coinbase is really a signal
or anything I think is relatively weak
but I will tell you there is a bigger
signal of something that I don't like
seeing as much and that's when
Executives start dumping shares that
they just got assigned and unfortunately
those sort of Shenanigans have just
started happening take a look at this
this picture here is a filing from the
20 uh that was published on the 21st for
transactions that occurred on the 17th
and 20th and it shows Brian Armstrong
right here the Brian Armstrong living
trust who's the CEO of the company being
assigned 28 000 shares and then
immediately selling those shares so he
acquired the shares as an option for
zero dollars basically and then
immediately sold all of those shares
uh yikes for for market prices sitting
around somewhere around 76 bucks a share
well that works out to about 2.1 million
dollars of shares dumped by the CEO but
it wasn't just the CEO just days before
the report of this Wells notice from the
SEC certainly not insider trading at all
would never want to allege that because
no executive ever does that uh but
anyway what do we have here oh look the
chief legal officer oh wow the chief
legal officer also dumped about 2 000
shares now he still owns a whole lot
more owned somewhere around 62 000
shares uh left which is you know pretty
sizable position there somewhere around
what is that three times two somewhere
around six six to seven million bucks uh
in shares but just did a little dumpy
doodle there uh in this case uh Brian
Armstrong's living trust just basically
fully liquidated those shares for what
they were received so a nice little pump
up there of the Brian Armstrong living
trust but it also it makes you curious
what could the implications of this warn
notice be to the SEC and or from the SEC
and what are the fundamentals of
coinbase well let's look at some of this
so first uh here's the piece that sort
of breaks down some of what's going on
here the SEC issued a warning to
coinbase Via the wells notice the stock
is trading down in pre-market it dropped
in post market yesterday uh right now
Shares are actually down about 14 uh in
pre-market you can see that right here
14 decline down to 66 dollars so the
executives literally just yielded out
right before this notice was made public
which it's likely they heard about the
notice before the public did anyway so
it seems a little susp but what is this
war notice actually do well the war
notice based on discussions with staff
the company believes these potential
enforcement actions would relate to
aspects of the company's spot Market
staking Services coinbase earned
coinbase Prime and coinbase wallet
potential civil action May seek
injunctive relief discouragement and
civil penalties all right so in English
the SEC ain't happy with coinbase's
business they might take any profits
away that the company made they might
shut down uh parts of the coinbase
business through regulatory uh uh
requirements immediately and they could
find coinbase civilly now obviously a
lot of this is coming after the collapse
of FTX Celsius Voyager three arrows
Capital nobody knew that these ended up
being it would end up being as big of a
fraud I mean these are like as big of a
a Bernie Madoff here as uh as uh you
know basically has happened since 2008 I
don't think anybody even knew these were
a fraud uh but now it comes out that Sam
bankman freed basically defrauded
everyone and what do we got over here
well we jump in over here and the SEC is
Bay basically making everyone really
nervous what is Brian Armstrong's CEO at
coinbase now saying well he tweeted a
little bit of a story yesterday he
tweeted the following conveniently after
having sold the shares uh let's go ahead
and put it in reader View today coinbase
received a Wells notice from the SEC
focused on staking and asset listings a
Wells notice typically precedes an
enforcement action two years ago the SEC
reviewed our business in detail and
approved coinbase to go public now it's
very important to remember that the SEC
doesn't actually approve uh uh listings
that's very important to know the SEC
will review your filings and they'll add
commentary to your filings but the SEC
actually leaves it incumbent upon the
individual investor to evaluate whether
a business is a fraud whether a business
is financially viable and that's
assuming you can even get financials for
a business right coinbase is publicly
listed so in theory coinbase could be a
publicly listed fraud it's unlikely but
nobody knows uh but the point is just
because a company is a public company
doesn't make them
Gucci it doesn't make them less likely
to go bankrupt look at Voyager digital
which was a public company in Canada
bankrupt Regulators regulation didn't
help at all over there
so uh Brian Armstrong here says that our
S1 which is your original listing
clearly explained our asset listing
process and about how much due diligence
we take on crypto coins and that they
look there's there's so much of an
unregulated environment in the space
right now there's a reason I've always
kept any of my exposure to crypto to a
very small and speculative amount I've
also very very clearly been extremely
concerned about stable coins but anyway
what do we have here well we understand
that this is all part of our journey to
reforming our financial system we are
right on the law confident in the facts
and welcome the opportunity for coinbase
to get before court basically the CEO is
saying look we think we can win in court
we think crypto is good and we think
we're Gucci that's fine but convincing
the SEC of that is going to be very
difficult specifically because the SEC
has has a way of being able to basically
come after people uh where they won't
regulate something
and then after the fact they'll say well
now after the fact we think something's
actually security and we're going to
find somebody for it now that might make
more sense of crypto tokens look what
just happened yesterday with Tron and
the SEC so just yesterday the SEC sued
multiple uh influencers and celebrities
for their involvement in promoting Tron
look at this
tron's Network native TRX token dropped
13 after the SEC announces charges
against Justin Tron and three of his
companies including BitTorrent and the
Tron Foundation uh market cap of Tron
sits at about 5.4 billion it's insane
look at that little tank there after the
SEC charges anyway the SEC is charging
the Tron Network founder with offering
and uh for the offering and sale of an
unregistered crypto asset Securities now
a lot of people would counter this and
argue do how could you legally list a
crypto asset anyway you don't let us so
in In fairness you have this whole
crypto Community that's like come on SCC
like tell us is it legal or is it not
but your silence lets it happen and then
you start punishing people after the
fact that leads to a lot of frustration
right now the other argument is that the
SEC is hamstrung by bureaucratic
processes and regulations that don't let
them create a clear listing process for
crypto assets who knows but the
definition for is crypto security or not
is is really unclear right now and that
makes really all of the crypto space a
very very risky to certainly massive
volatility like what we're seeing with
the stock price of coinbase this morning
but anyway uh they're also alleging that
the Tron founder
uh is fraudulently manipulating the
secondary Market with extensive wash
trading that's very interesting yeah
some folks here in the commentary are
saying it's basically like entrapment I
mean it it it's kind of it's kind of not
untrue right I mean it's it's like if if
you don't tell us it's wrong and then
and then you let people trade or sell
crypto assets and then you say oh it's
an unregistered crypto asset but you
didn't allow people to ever register it
or tell people not to do it then isn't
that kind of entrapping I mean it's kind
of like it's kind of like a cop standing
on a beach and you drinking wine on the
beach and there are no signs saying it's
illegal and there are no laws saying
it's illegal but there are also no laws
saying it is legal to drink on that
particular Beach and then all of a
sudden the cop decides you know what now
I'm pissed that they're drinking on the
beach I'm gonna arrest somebody for it
it's kind of like
but there's no law saying well you can't
drink wine on the beach and the SEC is
like well there's no law saying you can
drink wine on the beach and it's like
what the hell you know that's that is a
little odd a little odd so I I think
that's a good point regarding the
entrapment now somebody here is uh is
arguing that Brian Armstrong sells every
month you know that's like the most
classic defense that people give
Executives for dumping stock is that oh
this is normal I've just happened to set
up a a whatever it's called the 10b51
plans or whatever I just happen to set
up a plan that'll conveniently dump uh
millions of dollars of stock every
single month and don't worry because
it's all pre-planned it certainly has
nothing to do with information about
regulation you know is coming
uh so it's kind of incredible I like
this person who says you have to mute
Kevin because he tries his hardest to
understand crypto but got burned last
year and just buds it you know what's
really remarkable is I think the depth
of information that I provide on a lot
of either stable coins or tornado cash
or how cryptography Works uh really I I
think we're we're on like totally
different levels of competence uh I
think that I hate to say it but I think
that they're first of all there are four
levels of competence here okay uh the
four levels are uh very simple but
they're very important to know uh one is
unconscious uh incompetence uh and this
this is usually your your loud
commentary people uh then there are
people who uh consciously are aware uh
that they don't know consciously no they
don't know uh everything I I can put I
put myself here because the more I learn
about crypto the more I I realize
there's more to learn and think is
fantastic I think it's really great then
there are people who know that they know
right this is like your professional
level here and then there are people who
are what what's known as uh
unconsciously on
consciously there we go competent anyway
uh most of the loud uh screamers on the
internet who are like you're just for
the food are are like children who
actually think they know how to do a
lick of research and uh and and all they
can do is Scream fud as if fud equals
fake news there's a really big
difference between fear uncertainty and
doubt which is actually usually a very
reasonable thing to cover and fake news
right it is reasonable to argue that if
uh there are issues with counterparty
risk they should be talked about and
that's not fudding right uh there are
reasons to argue that Al algorithmic
trading in Bitcoin could could create
fluctuations in the Bitcoin price based
solely on the money supply that's not
fud that is coming up with with ideas
about why uh there's certain movement uh
in crypto and I think that belongs well
in the camp of reasonably asking
questions as as somebody who who knows
they're trying to learn more and share
perspective right this idea uh that
everything that doesn't say that oh
crypto's going to the Moon is somehow
fun is absolutely ludicrous the idea
that oh the CEO is allowed to sell
millions of dollars of stock a month
because he does it every month is
ludicrous it it like when did that start
oh conveniently at the top of the market
and all of a sudden as we're writing
down all of a sudden you're continuously
selling you know you have to be careful
uh with the the amount of uh moonshot
commentary there is on the internet uh
everybody just wants things to go to the
moon and don't get me wrong I I I love
when things go to the Moon as well but
this idea that uh uh you know you can't
share a negative perspective is is
remarkable to me but uh okay so let's
look at the actual numbers here for
uh oh yeah and then I guess I should
also argue that I didn't have any crypto
assets to lose I lost some money
investing in block by the actual broker
unfortunately because I thought
investing in the actual brokerages was a
good idea that obviously ended up being
an L but I sold every single crypto
related asset I had uh in um uh like
coins or whatever in January of 2022 and
I'm very happy I did that along with all
my stocks and all of my real estate I
sold everything now I didn't buy back in
at a perfect time we have to be fair
about that to mention that as well but
that doesn't mean it didn't have the
right idea at first it just shows the
challenges of being perfect with your
Market timing right uh you you could get
one side right but then you could be
less perfect on the second side and
that's the tough thing about timing but
let's look at coinbase's cash flow
statement for the year ended 2020 uh uh
two so a lot of people are asking me
about like hey how's this regulation
actually going to affect coinbase and I
think it's really important to look at
their financials and see okay well well
how is coinbase going to be affected
so uh I think the way we have to look at
this is we have to look at coinbase and
we have to look at their net income here
or yeah their net income were lost 2.6
billion dollars it's absolutely insane
of that they paid out 1.5 billion
dollars
in stock based comp I mean the company
is throwing money out of the window on
stock based compensation two people like
the CEO who are dumping their shares
that's a problem that's a problem but
but anyway so net cash and operating
negative 1.56 billion dollars they're uh
their their free cash flow is vastly
negative uh I mean you're sitting at
somewhere around negative one points
just over 1.6 billion dollars in
negative free cash flow how much cash
does this company actually have that's
not deposits right so we have to get rid
of custodial funds right here so you
have to look at okay we've got four and
then you've got some usdc amounts of
loan receivables it's a little
complicated when you look at bank like
institutions but let's go with uh
4.425 billion in cash here and then
let's look at not deposit liabilities
but let's actually subtract out payables
and accrued expenses you've probably got
about 400 mil here some borrowings I
mean you've got a lot of cash you've got
about four bill of free cash at least at
coinbase which is very good four billion
of free cash
now it's a little problematic though
because you did lose 1.6 billion dollars
of cash in 2022 so you really have a run
rate of like maybe a little over two
years here so if these negative revenues
continue at coinbase for the next couple
years you're going to have to raise a
lot of capital and you're going to have
to destroy a lot of shareholder wealth
because this this negative cash flow is
not going to be able to last now what's
really insane here folks this is
absolutely insane look at this their net
revenue over halved more than halved and
while their net revenue more than halved
their operating expense for technology
and development
doubled nearly doubled so more than have
on revenue and a near doubling of of
tech and look at this this is like a
more than 50 percent increase in SG a uh
uh that's insane
uh well specifically General and
administration going up about 700
million dollars uh technology and
development going up about uh 1.1
billion dollars so you've got about 1.7
billion dollars of more expenses with
Revenue that is actually uh three four
four point two billion dollars lower so
seriously minus 4.2 bill in rev and plus
1.7 billion expenses why would you touch
coinbase with a 10-foot pole you know
and then then they have a I would call
it a less than two year run rate so
you've got a business that has a less
than two year run rate its expenses are
exploding while its revenue is declining
and and on top of that you've got the
insane regulatory risk why would you
touch it
it does it doesn't make any sense to
touch this right now it's no surprise to
me that the executives are doing this
with their shares Milk The Cow while you
can man but it's going away it's it this
is scary and I mean how much fun the
analysis did we just do on this like
five minutes okay it's already a
disgusting Hot Potato do I really think
if I do more that opinion is going to
get any better no
of course not uh you know I mean you
could click around though okay yeah the
Bitcoin log price scale Let's uh let's
click bait everybody with the log scale
of Bitcoin it's going to the Moon don't
worry and and the reality is coinbase
will do very well if Bitcoin goes to the
moon I promise that the coinbase will do
fantastic if Bitcoin goes to a million
dollars uh which is a projection of some
people that'll go to a million two
million dollars it's not my production
but uh I think it's very very very
interesting
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