2024 Gender Report - UN Women's Head in Afghanistan | United Nations
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and with that uh let me turn to Our
Guest uh Allison
deidan uh please put her up on the
screen hi Al Allison uh welcome it's
great to see you uh so uh uh we have as
our guest today Allison deidan the UN
women's head of the Afghanistan country
office to discuss uh uh the gender
country profile for 2024 for Afghanistan
Midian the floor is
yours I've just come back from the north
of Afghanistan and I asked the women
that I met
with what would you like the world to
know about your lives
now and one of the women I met with
nasima uh told me
this uh I was married at
16 uh I couldn't finish
school My Hope was that my daughter's
life would be better than
mine now I'm worried that her life is
going to be
worse for those who are still
listening please help us fight for our
freedom this week marks 3 years since
the Taliban takeover of Afghanistan 3
years is worth of countless decrees
directives and statements targeting
women and girls stripping them of their
fundamental rights and eviscerating
their
autonomy our latest publication which
we're launching today shows Trends based
on rounds of consultations that we've
done with Afghan women thousands of
Afghan women across the country from
provincial capitals to the most rural
areas since August
2021 and the first most striking
trend is the Erasure of Afghan women
from public
life to date no woman in
Afghanistan has a leadership position
anywhere that has influence politically
either at National or provincial level
when women are engaged in the Taliban
structures it's their roles are largely
to monitor compliance of other women
with their discriminatory
decrees and this political Erasure is
really mirrored at Social level what our
data shows is when you take away
fundamental rights it impacts across all
areas of
life of the women that we've surveyed
98%
said that they had limited or zero
influence over decision making at the
community level in their
communities and it's also reflected in
the home uh our data shows that the
percentage of women who feel like they
have influence over decision- making at
the household level has dropped almost
60% points over the past year and just
to give some
context 3 years ago uh a woman in
Afghanistan could technically decide to
run for
president now she may not even be able
to decide when to go and buy
groceries now I'm not saying that 3
years ago it was perfect it was not
perfect but it wasn't
this linked to the loss of rights our
data also points to an escalating Mental
Health
crisis
68% of the women we surveyed said they
had bad or very bad mental health and 8%
of women said that they knew at least
one other woman or
girl who had attempted
suicide what's clear 3 years in is that
the taliban's restrictions on women and
girls will affect generations to
come our analysis show shows that by
2026 the impact of leaving 1.1 million
girls out of school and 100,000 women
out of University correlates to an
increase in early childbearing by
45% and an increase in maternal
mortality by up to
50% so in the face of this deepening
women's rights crisis I'm often asked
what can we do what can we do to support
women and girls in Afghanistan and my
answer is always this one key
thing we must continue to invest in
Afghan women and girls nothing
undermines the taliban's vision for
society more than empowering the very
part of the population that it seeks to
oppress practically based on you and
women's work over the past 3 years
invest ing in women uh means three main
strategies the first is to allocate
long-term sustainable funding to women's
organizations this is one of the most
effective ways that we can reach and
access women and girls respond to their
needs and also invest in one of the few
sectors left where women can influence
decision- making it's hard but it's
possible
secondly is to design programs that
directly counter the Erasure of women
and girls investing in their resilience
their empowerment and their leadership
so initiatives especially like education
uh livelihoods uh entrepreneurship these
are crucial ways to address uh the
structural drivers of gender
inequality and finally we need to create
spaces and facilitate spaces where
Afghan women can tell us directly on
what their priorities are and what their
recommendations are our data shows that
Afghan women want to represent
themselves but one meeting one
participation option is not enough in
every and any form of Engagement we need
to be asking how do we meaningfully
include Afghan women and how do we break
the patterns of women's
exclusion 3 years ago
3 years ago the world was watching a
takeover that was live streaming horror
after
horror and 3 years later while the
world's attention may have turned
elsewhere the horrors have not stopped
for Afghan women and girls but nor has
their conviction to stand against
oppression when it comes to the women's
rights situation and the fight for
women's rights in Afghanistan we are at
a real inflection point but not just in
Afghanistan globally as well the world
is watching what happens to Afghan women
and girls and in some cases it watches
to
condemn but in others in others it
watches to
emulate emulate the taliban's systematic
oppression we cannot leave Afghan women
to fight
alone if we do we have no moral ground
to fight for women's rights anywhere
else their fate determines the fate of
women
everywhere and what we do or what we
fail to do for Nima for her daughter for
all Afghan women and girls is the
ultimate test of who we are as a global
community and what we stand
for thank thank you very much for that
uh I'm now going to turn the floor over
to uh to the press for
questions yes
Maggie hi Allison uh thank you for the
briefing it's Margaret Basher with voice
of America uh I was just surprised a bit
I guess at the statistic you mentioned
about women uh losing their input in
decision-making within the home I I can
understand in the community perhaps but
at home
what's your interpretation of this were
men just grudgingly giving their wives
and daughters uh more input before and
now they don't have to or you know what
how do you see this thank
you thanks for that question uh look I
think when you take away women's right
to education and uh restrict their
rights to work and public life it
affects uh All rights and affects
women's agency more generally and that's
reflected in the real decrease uh in
women's decision- making and as these
restrictions go on uh the influence over
decision- making both at community and
household level has
decreased okay uh yes Jennifer Jennifer
pelts hi Jennifer pelts from the
Associated Press um turning to your call
to invest in education entrepreneurship
and so on for women
how is it possible to do so under the
conditions you describe how can you
Foster entrepreneurship among people who
aren't even allowed
to take their own initiative to go to
the grocery
store so women um are uh able to run
businesses in particular sectors um
except not beauty salons but uh they are
running um mainly homebased businesses
in uh tailoring uh uh carpet weaving
food processing but there's two main
challenges that they face uh first is
access to markets especially around
Mobility restrictions because of the
mobility restrictions and the second is
access to finance access to formal Banks
um so uh there's a lot that you and
women and we as a system are doing to uh
support women in terms of accessing
markets access accessing capital
uh and supporting Business Development
skills um so that in the space that they
have um they're able to utilize it as
much as possible um so there there is a
real uh Focus right now and and on women
businesses as an entry
point okay and uh online we have a
question from Ivon
Murray thank you um thank you Alison my
name is Ivon maram with RTE News did you
ask the the women that you spoke to in
Afghanistan about the Doha meetings
organized by the United Nations and if
so what was their view of these meetings
and specifically what did they think
about women's rights uh not being on the
main agenda and women uh women's groups
being excluded from the main meetings
thank
you so uh we know that one meeting and
one participation option is never going
to be enough to address the severity of
the situation for women and girls in
Afghanistan uh last year we know that
the security Council adopted a
resolution uh
2721 um that clearly called for women's
participation and this should be the
text uh that we really anchor strategies
to increase uh women's participation
across a multitude of avenues uh both
direct uh and indirect and we also need
to make sure that these long-term
strategies are accompanied uh by also
programs to support women's leadership
and resilience at the country level in
everything we do in every format we need
to be asking how do we engage Afghan
women how do we integrate women's rights
across all of the topics that we're
discussing how do we break the patterns
of exclusion when we speak to Afghan
women afan women say we want to
represent
ourselves uh and uh and we need to be
ensuring that happens across all of the
forums uh multitude of forums uh
possible yes
please hi hi uh I'm from uh NHK Japan uh
so I heard some madrasa uh the religious
school in Afghanistan is uh start
accepting you know some GRS for the
secular education how do you evaluate
the laws of uh those madasa and do you
have concern maybe Taliban might start
restricting those education in
madrasa so I travel across Afghanistan
uh regularly and the topic that
continues to come up Time and Time Again
by women everywhere I go from the
provincial capitals to the most rural
areas is this Collective mourning truly
over the inability of girls to be able
to go to school and to be able to
graduate and go to
university uh and uh there's no other
country in the world that bans girls
from going to school as a matter of
policy um and so uh the impact that this
also has not just on education but on
the economy um is is very clear uh we
have data that says that by 206 2066 if
these banss were to
continue uh that Afghanistan would lose
$9.6 billion in GDP that's 2/3 of its
GDP as it currently stands so we're
seeing how the overall bans on girls
access to education affect uh the health
of the economy uh and uh women want
girls to be able to go to school um
major education uh they what we hear
from afan women is it it should not be
uh a a replacement for that
uh uh Abdul Hamed
online thank you Alison my name is ABD
from the Arabic daily
Al Alison I have personal question I
hope
you understand my background I served in
Afghanistan too but for a brief uh time
um how do you connect with the women do
you sit with them do you talk to to them
do they do they open up for
you did do you speak their language
or how how do you evaluate your relation
personal relation with Afghan women I I
have a an experience when women start
talking they started crying and they
affected me as well so how do you
evaluate your personal
experience yeah thank you for your
question um
uh one of the I mean the best part of my
job is that I'm able to go and meet with
Afghan women across the country and
listen to them and hear what their
priorities are um all of our programming
everything we do at you and women is
anchored on their voices and their
priorities and what Afghan women want is
what any woman wants which is uh the
ability to live a life of her own
choosing and that's a real basic
commonality that we all have in common
so in that sense it's um I mean it's the
greatest privilege of my life to be able
to go and meet with Afghan women and
hear from them directly and to use every
platform I have to elevate those voices
and
priorities thank you um Margaret Basher
again uh thanks Alison it's Margaret
again just one more question um the
results of your survey really were
pretty grim and I'm just wondering then
has advocacy International pressure
frozen assets has any of this uh had any
success whatsoever in easing the plate
of Afghan
women so I mean despite all of the
challenges you know Afghan women are
still finding ways to uh run uh women's
organizations run businesses deliver
Services uh to other women uh protest
protest online and I think what's what's
really critical is that uh that we
continue to have Global solidarity and
commitment and action um behind them uh
Afghanistan is not the only only country
in the world where women's rights are
being rolled
back but it's true that the speed and
the scale of the roll back in
Afghanistan is a warning to women you
know everywhere of how fragile Gams are
on gender equality and how quickly that
can be taken away so we need to continue
I mean it's a long game we need to
continue to put uh invest in women and
girls put our political will and our
funding behind them and continue to have
Global advocacy uh to to affect change
uh in the in their
lives okay uh I don't see any further
questions so with that I'd like to thank
once more Our Guest thanks very much for
for uh for this uh uh briefing Allison
uh and good luck to you uh I'd like to
tell all of you in the Press uh we'll
also be emailing uh some of uh Allison
devan's remarks to you uh shortly so
you'll be able to get some of that in in
print as well uh thanks and uh thanks
again Allison have have a good
afternoon thank you so much thank
you technically she she will have a good
evening
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