The Coming Student Loan Collapse: Avoid THESE Stocks.
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so rightfully so a lot of people are
worried about what's going to happen to
the stock market once a student loan
repayments are begin again and Barclays
thankfully put together a phenomenal
piece on their estimate bear in mind
it's their estimate of what is going to
happen to the economy and which stocks
are going to benefit or fail based on
student loan repayment rebeginning so
we're going to talk specifically about
that by going through zabakley's a piece
uh this is by the way uh well I just
want to say by the way I'm grateful to
be coming to you from Canada I don't
think I've mentioned it yet but well
obviously many of you know I've been on
vacation in Canada for about the last 11
days with family and my goal is to still
bring quality content to everyone and so
I appreciate all of your support while
we've been out here with family and
we'll be back soon so anyway back to
Barclays or to Barclays what do we have
here pencils down payments up student
loan repayments impact who too juicy we
estimate the aggregate potential total
potential hit to uh from student loan
repayments to be somewhere around 15.8
billion dollars of a monthly headwind
and that will likely work out to an
incremental payment spend of about 390
dollars per person starting this fall
which is about an eight percent headwind
to monthly personal income now what
we're going to do is we're going to go
into some specific stocks that this
might affect and I want you to start
thinking about okay
who what kind of person what kind of
spender is most likely to be affected
and initially I had this impression that
oh well of course you know uh people
with less money are going to be more
affected by student loans but you have
to ask yourself wait a minute but people
in a certain level of poverty don't
actually have student loans to begin
with so there's there's this interesting
middle ground that we're going to be
paying attention to and stocks
associated with that middle ground uh
and I'll add my commentary of course on
that but anyway let's take a look at
this uh the expectation here from
Barclays is that we are likely to see
discretionary spend Fall by an equal
amount of this uh decline in in monthly
payments or this increase in monthly
payments people are going to make so for
example if you see uh people have 390
less available for spending you'll
probably see nearly all of that show up
as less spending so in other words now
people instead of spending 390 a month
on Etsy or potentially spending it on
student loans instead of spending it at
restaurants or spending it on student
loans instead of spending it you know
whatever at Target they're spending it
on student loans obviously to some
extent people are still going to spend
money on their Staples this would be the
discretionary money this is the this is
your toys your video games your Dave and
Busters Your Entertainment your travel
your airfares your hotels everything
because remember what people generally
do is they save up for travel right you
save up three months you got a thousand
bucks and then you go blow it on Disney
tickets for the weekend or whatever
which is the point of life anyway it's
like you know we work to have fun and we
work to provide fulfillment and the
meaning of success to our lives as we
provide value to society and our friends
and family and the companies around us
uh and and then we also want to balance
that by having fun and entertainment so
this is very normal but consider these
things so anyway uh so what we here's
how we come up with their calculation of
about this eight percent headwind to
monthly spend but take a look at this
I think this is very interesting because
they give me some stock implications
here in our view consumer discretionary
and apparel categories are likely to be
among the areas affected by incremental
wallet pressure okay incremental wallet
pressure in English it means they have
390 less dollars to spend
furthermore we view that equities are
among the most likely to be affected uh
or the equities to be most likely to be
affected are those that have a customer
base that skews look at this folks I was
actually surprised by this toward higher
income higher income higher education
consumers so think about it the the your
white collar Consulting students your uh
nurse students your doctor students your
you know uh mechanical engineers
electrical engineers your people who are
making six figure salaries but
potentially you're still living paycheck
to paycheck you know it's reportedly uh
CNBC at least did a survey on this 50 of
those
who make more than a hundred thousand
dollars a year still live paycheck to
paycheck
that's probably the base you're talking
about so to some extent does that mean
maybe you're talking about your
lululemons
those tight pants yes your under armours
your Lulu lemons your Urban Outfitters
your AEO your figs remember figs was a
huge fad there for a moment fake's uh
like nursing and doctors
um scrubs or whatever uh okay in the
first bucket we perceived the they have
three risk buckets in the first bucket
they think the greatest risk to
retailers is targeting recently
graduated or newly employed that's
because they likely have the lowest
built up excess savings and so that
would be your 18 to 34 year old range I
do think it's interesting that they
include 18 year olds in this since I
don't know a lot of 18 year olds
graduating from college so I would
probably be looking more like your 22 to
34 year old range this is your you know
finding yourself age you're more
critical you're more skeptical you're
you're you're more wise age group than
obviously like a 14 to 20 right it is
but it's all also your uh your age group
that's more willing to also spend
because we realize we're not just here
to work uh anyway you know to some
extent uh you know Tesla is within this
bucket right 25 to 34 or 25 to 45-ish
year old males make up like 70 of car
purchases from Tesla so uh that's
probably in that bucket and honestly 390
a month
is about half of a Tesla car payment
anyway uh we categorize exposure to
student loan debt repayment risk in
three main buckets
the first is the recently graduated and
newly employed in the second bucket we
consider a higher Target income like the
aspirational luxury category okay your
fancy pants this is your fancy pants
category uh including you can see some
of the tickers on screen here cpri tpr
Goose jwn your lulus your Ulta Ulta has
been on a tear so anything that says
Ulta might actually become affordable
again as a stock maybe is a good thing
but anyway in the third bucket we see
the least risk the lowest risk and this
would be a customer base that skews
towards a lower income or lower
educational levels this is going to be
your Gap your TJ Maxx your Old Navy uh
Burlington code Factory whatever so your
lower income actually at lower risk from
discretionary pain where it's really
that yeah there's Lulu it's really your
Lulu's your fakes right your Urban
Outfitters who knows maybe even your uh
oh what's that one place that Lauren
likes so much anthropology G's you know
that that sort of segment yeah they're
gonna get hit a little more I wonder
what that's going to do also
thinking about it to your home decor
Market to your chip and Joanna Gaines
inspired younger couples who are like I
gotta I Gotta Buy shiplap and new
furniture and and you know we gotta have
a new vintage looking oven and you know
all that kind of stuff so uh maybe uh to
some extent a little bit of everything
yeah there'll be a limit I expect to
make up but anyway uh this that's
actually just the piece here on student
loans it's just this segment here but I
think that actually gives us a lot of
color on student loans so I would pay
attention to this and uh look into some
of the uh
discretionary categories that have done
very well but do also consider a
comparison between some of the companies
that I've mentioned here and something
like an Etsy specifically just on stock
performance so let's let's for example
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let's let's just from a technical point
of view let's just go solely technical
here so let's look at something uh like
Etsy and why don't we jump on over to uh
should we let's go to a week chart on
Etsy okay so this is Etsy on a week
chart so from a technical point of view
you've you've already experienced a
substantial amount of pain over here at
uh see and there's a limit to how much I
think Etsy can really get hit more in
this discretionary pain specifically
because they've already been hit so hard
and I think that probably creates more
of an opportunity than it does a deficit
so I'm watching Etsy very closely uh let
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let's look at like a Lulu right let's
look at some of these other Pickers
mentioned here this is for Lulu here on
a week chart uh and you can see Lulu's
really been uh you could almost say
range bound I mean we could to some
extent we can go with uh some horizontal
lines here and we could somewhat set up
Lulu as range bound yeah there we go
it's it's not perfect but you could
really see how Lulu's been holding up
and a Spock that I saw that was range
Bound for a while that didn't get
punished yet was ubiquity and you could
see ubiquity was range bound over here
really between this 325 and 284 level it
was range mount for about two years it
just couldn't break out it it refused to
stay lower until it finally tanked this
is my buy point right here on ubiquity
and so I've actually actively been
increasing my personal exposure to
ubiquity because of this but we look at
something like uh like uh
Etsy seems like it's already had some of
its pain but then you look at a Lulu you
haven't really had that correction yet
on Lulu is it possible that the student
loan issue happens to Lulu yes now what
about like an Ulta boy this one's this
has been one of those rough ones where
it's like if you haven't been an Ulta
you're like man I wish I'd been an Ulta
because this is the weak chart for Ulta
and you can see here's the coven low
right here it's basically been straight
up I mean you could really just go in
here and draw a trendline support and go
who cares they've had a recent
correction this stock is straight up and
it ain't going anywhere and maybe that's
true or what's actually more likely to
be true is if that uh covid or rather
the student loan repayment uh begins
again and we do end up seeing some
pressure to Ulta's growth which Ulta is
is built on a lot of growth right now
you look at all times I mean even from a
p e ratio I'll pull let me pull up this
PEG ratio on Ulta but my my latest
recollection is that Ulta's growth was
actually pretty lofty not to be confused
with the company called Loft but anyway
lofty valuation and really relying on
growth so if you have something that
could take away even just the marginal
growth and write down growth at Ulta you
could see more of what you saw on the
right side there which was a correction
down but it's still only just a
temporary I mean still a range bound
correction we could actually break out
of this range would be the concern so uh
let's see here you've got you're sitting
at about an EPS on Ulta uh of a January
2024 of 2536 so we're going to divide
that by 447 divided by 25
36 that gives us a p e ratio of 17.6 now
you might say Hey Kevin that doesn't
sound so high why why is uh you know why
is that bad well what's bad is they're
only expected to grow their earnings by
about six percent that puts you at a PEG
ratio of nearly three for Ulta so on a
price to earnings growth basis it's very
high so these are some considerations
when it comes to student loans and what
we might end up seeing with student loan
repayments and some of the pain uh MC
Hammer thought the money would keep
coming in
yes yes exactly lifestyle creep yes
there's a lot of that a lot of a lot of
famous wealthy people who went bankrupt
uh just spending too much but anyway
these are some things to consider if you
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