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well folks Goldman Sachs thinks there

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could be a wave of defaults coming and

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the defaults are not going to Peak this

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quarter they're not going to Peak next

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quarter but instead they're going to

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Peak

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in the first half of 2024 which is

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actually where there's some alignment of

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current recessionary expectations which

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is not great news let's take a look at

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this and see if there's some things that

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we should really be concerned about this

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is the Goldman Sachs Global Credit

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Trader research uh what we have are a

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peak mid-year but no Spike uh okay

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interesting we expect the 12 month

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trailing us default rates to peak in the

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first half of 2024 at 4.6 and 6.7

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percent for high yield and leveraged

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loan issuers those are kind of like

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think about like your cruise lines where

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you know when they're borrowing they're

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borrowing at like 13 or whatever

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in Europe the default trend has been

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more benign than in the us but we do

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expect the pace of defaults to modestly

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increase in the first half

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uh and so this is leading a lot of

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people to be very concerned that oh my

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gosh you know that's how it starts you

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know you start getting some defaults

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when you start getting defaults what

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ends up happening well you end up

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getting job loss that leads to less

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earnings for big companies and then they

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have to lay off people and that's how

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you get a recession

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that's definitely possible but

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fortunately these Peaks do not seem that

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dramatically high and it makes sense in

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fact last week we covered a story where

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we analyzed the net interest payments by

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market cap and we found that net

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interest payments for Mega cap companies

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and large cap companies were actually

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declining that is the amount of money

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companies we're spending on interest was

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going down not up people like how is

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that possible well it's possible because

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what they're doing is they're borrowing

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along and they're depositing short so

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they borrow for a 10 20-year period they

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take that money like an apple they

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borrow at say four percent they deposit

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it into a money market getting 5.5 they

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win they profit the difference whereas

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smaller riskier companies are getting

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screwed smaller riskier companies like

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Cruise Lines or even small caps like

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maybe even a matterport they're having

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to pay substantially higher interest

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rates they're not able to borrow at

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those lower rates and that increases the

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default risk for for these sorts of

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companies substantially since the start

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of 2021 there's been a total of 266

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billion of rising stars in the USD

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Market just more than reversed the 230

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billion dollar coveted wave of fallen

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angels that said only 112 billion of the

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230 billion downgraded in 2020 has

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migrated back to growth suggesting a

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robust pipeline

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coming up okay fine refinancing what do

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we got here compression Cash Cash

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availability fine let's skip some of

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this all right how large how constantly

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the share of U.S the US dollar

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denominated high-yield bonds maturing

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within the next 12 months has nearly

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doubled

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that increases interest expenses for

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companies with the higher borrowing

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costs that we just talked about so in

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other words

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the amount of companies that are like oh

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no we have to refinance in other words

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bonds are coming due we issue new bonds

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at higher rates replace the old ones has

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increased double twofold uh nearly uh

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for the next 24 months increases the

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risk of more defaults that's how they're

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increasing getting to this higher level

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of defaults expected here's a chart by

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the way of the defaults they're

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expecting and how you can kind of

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compare them to previous levels so we've

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got sort of a peak drawn here for the

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high yield bond market these defaults

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would be somewhat similar to what we saw

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in like 2012 nowhere near the defaults

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expected of what we saw in 08 so a six

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percent level of default shows you that

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this isn't like a recession level of

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defaults it would there'll be an

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increase in default and this default

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level is still ramping up we're not in

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that down ramping phase we actually had

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more defaults in covid more defaults in

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2016 and again this would just be

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similar to about 2002 12 of the failure

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of companies well quite interesting so a

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few weeks ago Goldman updated their 2023

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full year whoops uh issuer weighted

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defaults forecast to 3 8 and 6.5 in the

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leveraged loan Market again those

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numbers go up for 2024 to 4.6 and 6.7

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percent we then expect a decline that

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will push the full year default rate

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back to three and a half percent in high

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yield and five two in leverage for both

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markets our U.S economists soft Landing

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Baseline view greatly limits the risk of

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defaults in other words though if we

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don't get a soft Landing these numbers

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could all be a lot worse

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assuming the FED delivers only three 25

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basis point cuts the U.S uh that U.S

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economists currently expect funding

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costs for floating rate borrowers simply

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will not come down far enough or fast

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enough for some of the pressured issuers

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to alleviate financial distress okay in

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American they're basically saying Even

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If the Fed starts cutting rates next

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year it's going to be way too slow for

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you to actually avoid default you're

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still going to have to refinance at

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substantially higher levels you're still

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going to get absolutely whacked in your

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net interest expenses and it's going to

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be a problem that's going to lead to

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defaults but those defaults thanks to

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the soft Landing narrative aren't

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expected to be that great so is this

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like ridiculously bearish no is it good

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um that's debatable some people say that

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a lot of these companies are zombie

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companies that have more debt expense

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than they have free cash flow and they

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deserve to go bankrupt and to some

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extent that's capitalism if you have a

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bad product you go out of business you

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stop innovating you go out of business

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Friday by the way on the 15th we talk

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about these sort of things but every

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business goes through Cycles and if you

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were a business owner or you're even

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just an employee if you're not

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constantly thinking about what can I do

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to stay ahead of my competition next you

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will get replaced there's a line out the

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door of people ready to take your job

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and that shouldn't be depressing it

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should be motivating it should motivate

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you to stay ahead of your competition

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are you working harder are you working

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smarter and when the answer to those

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questions is yes and yes then you get

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paid more now I know then you get sort

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of the pessimists that are like well

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I've been you know I've tried to start

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working harder and I haven't gotten paid

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more yet well then you're either at the

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wrong job or you're being too impatient

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It's a combination probably but the

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point is if you're not constantly

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innovating you lose

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and businesses that fail to innovate

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deserve to die that's capitalism that's

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how we make sure we don't get scams like

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uh home builders in China building

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skyscrapers

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that are built so poorly that they

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basically need to be demolished later

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because the companies are just taking

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government subsidies and grants and

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stimulus building trash properties to

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get more money and building them faster

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to get more money faster and then they

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end up having a crop product that's how

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you create fraud and froth real

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capitalism prevents that because the

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capitalist

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knows that the buyer is not going to buy

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a trash property if your property's

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trash it won't sell then you go to

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business because you can't sell your

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product and the Builder who actually has

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a better reputation is able to sell

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their properties and so that Builder

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gets more business and those properties

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sell for more money

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capitalism weeds out this kind of stuff

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so anyway uh this is probably a good

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thing uh I do think it's very

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interesting to kind of see the this this

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increasing level of defaults and uh and

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and how it looks historically uh I think

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this is actually optimistic so it's a

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