The Massive Binance Rugpull.
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A lot of you know that I have never been
the biggest fan of CZ or of Binance. It
all goes back to years ago, the
interview between CZ and Sarah Eisen
where Sarah Eisen bluntly and in
numerous different ways asked CZ, "Do
you actually have the reserves to back
the funds you say you have?" and he
dodges the question over and over and
over again suggesting oh well we have a
proof of reserves audit but remember
that the the scam with proof of reserve
audits and then we're going to get into
the drama that contributed to this scam
in Bitcoin which we have a lot to talk
about with 19 billion in liquidations of
course Binance is now airdropping some
breadcrumbs back to people but we'll
talk about that in just a moment
understand quickly how proof of reserve
work. If you have 10 stable coins, let's
just use a very simple example to
simplify this. Let's say you have 10
stable coins, tokens, whatever. Let's
say you have 10 buckets and each of them
are worth a billion dollars. Well,
technically to support all of that
infrastructure, you would need $10
billion to say they're all backed one.
But what people do with proof of
reserves financing is they say, "Yeah,
we have $1 billion." And if you compare
1 billion to stablecoin 1, yep, we've
got one bill. Compare it to stablecoin
2, yep, we've got one bill. Compare it
to three, yep, we've got one. But they
might actually only have one bill
compared to the total of 10 that they
say they do. While at the same time
saying, yeah, yeah, we've got proof of
reserves when we compare one to one. So,
you got to be careful with this. We
don't know if that's exactly what's
going on. But that sketchiness from that
interview years ago has always made me
skeptical that the people at Binance are
shysters. And I have been a big fan of
getting away from the any of these
exchanges. Like people use them for
trading, which is great, but you want to
be off these platforms, not your keys,
not your crypto. Unfortunately, people
get suckered into leverage. And that's
where we end up getting a potential for
a disaster like what we had with Bitcoin
here. So, let's understand what happened
not just with Bitcoin on Friday, why
Bitcoin fell, but why that led to a
cascade of problems at Binance. So,
here's what happened. There were a lot
of tokens like ATM that fell to roughly
zero or IODEX or ENJ. These fell a lot.
The problem that happened on Friday
under the catalyst of Donald Trump's
trade war was that Binance was just in
the process of moving about 8 days left.
They were just in the process of moving
to actually quoting prices on their
platform using market pricing elsewhere
which is known as Oracle pricing. So the
way this basically works is if you look
at market pricing on a stock, let's
understand this because this will help
you understand exactly what happened a
lot more easily. Let's look at AMD for
example. When you look at a stock like
AMD, you see it's trading for $236 on
Robin Hood. Well, Robin Hood isn't using
their own order book to determine AMD's
pricing. They're generally going to use
information directly from the NASDAQ or
New York Stock Exchange. And so
understand that all the major brokers,
whether it's Robin Hood or Weeble or
Tasty Trades or Interactive Brokers or
Charles Schwab or JP Morgan, they're all
looking at one data feed. They're
looking at the exchanges data feed for
where that stock is listed, which means
you see the whole order book, which is
really important because if you see the
whole order book, it means you're going
to have the thickest book available.
Now, why does that matter? Because if
some big whale comes in with a $10
million order, let's say, and they hit
the sell button, well, for AMD, if
you're using the NASDAQ's pricing,
you're probably not going to eat up the
order book because there are plenty of
people. You hit a $10 million sale,
you've got plenty of people willing to
buy in that order book. Now, what if
Weeble said, "You know what? We're
actually going to use our own order
book. We're not going to use the
NASDAQ's pricing. we're just going to
use a book that is only our customers.
And now somebody comes in with a $10
million order, but you don't have enough
buyers to match up with that. What
happens then is the price could actually
artificially plummet way more than it
should based on using data available
from the entire market because you're
not using price discovery from the
entire market. You're only using price
discovery from Binance. So, of course,
if you have a lot of sellers on Binance
and you're only matching up to buyers on
Binance, so Binance can go try to make
some more money, then in a market panic,
they end up screwing you, the user on
Binance. Now, understand, Binance got
exposed for this issue. People knew this
was an issue and people said, "We need
to fix it." And so, what did Binance do?
Binance said, "All right, we're going to
go ahead and update our software. We're
going to update this software to make
sure that we're going to use pricing
that is widely available. We're going to
end this design flaw and we're going to
use Oracle data." And so that way we
don't have stuff like this happen.
Here's for example uh a particular uh
read of um USDE to USDC on curve and
what you find is that broad market data
for the stable coin showed the stable
coin during this shock this tariff shock
on Friday the stable coin only dropped
to 99.57
which is which is actually really
nominal for a stable coin movement and
generally algorithms come in really
quickly and buy this up. The whole point
of algorithmic trading is that algo say,
"Oh, well, this is a stable coin. It's
supposed to be trading at exactly $1. If
it goes down, we're going to buy it up
and stabilize it back to a dollar. If it
goes up, we sell it." And that's how
they make money. It's sort of like being
a market maker. That's how they make
their money. The problem is, if you
actually look at what happened on
Binance, in Binance's case, this stable
coin collapsed. When you compare USDE to
Tether, for example, which again should
be stabilized at one, it actually
collapsed to 65.
And because it collapsed to 65, all of a
sudden, people's accounts looked like
they had just lost a bunch of value,
which you think, okay, a 35% drop.
Should that matter?
Not if you're cash, but if you're on
leverage at Binance, using 10 to 20x
leverage at Binance, you're screwed
because now all of a sudden 20x leverage
or 30x leverage turns you into an
instant liquidation. And this is why a
lot of people on social media were
complaining and they're saying, "Hey,
wait, this is ridiculous. We just got
liquidated before our stop losses could
even trigger. That's not good." Now,
Binance comes out and suggests, "Oh,
well, this is because of heavy market
activity and we're under load and users
might be experiencing delays displaying
issues, which that also led market
makers to withdraw offering bids on
Binance, which just exacerbates the
issue. See, if you're a market maker in
a in a panic, you can make a lot of
money by providing liquidity. You know,
people want to sell. You provide
liquidity at wider spreads and you go
make it up on other platforms, but you
pick up the spreads. In English, market
makers love volatility. But the problem
was Binance's system was so damn
overwhelmed that your funds weren't safu
because the market makers dipped out cuz
they're like, "We can't even get your
software to work right now. It's
glitching out so badly. We're just not
going to provide quotes. We're not going
to quote on Binance." And so what
happens? you get even more of a
deterioration because it now looks like
the market makers rugged. Now the market
makers, who knows, maybe they were in on
it, but the argument is that the market
makers rugged because the Binance
platform failed. Now, is it a chicken or
egg problem? Who knows? But a lot of
people in this flash crash, which is
seen as the worst since 2017, look at
this and say this was insider
manipulation that people knew about this
glitch. People knew that we were going
through this transition. Here it is. A
suspicious window. On October 6th,
Binance announced plans to fix this
exact problem. The exchange said it
would switch from using its own order
book prices to more reliable external
data. The change was scheduled for
October 14th, which was yesterday. But
the flash crash happened on October
10th, right in the middle of the 8-day
window. This leads a lot of people to
say this was an attack. This was a
coordinated attack to utilize this
screwed up order book one last time and
mint billions of dollars
and then of course give some of the
money back as breadcrumbs. Now, of
course, you kind of have to pick your
side on this, but Binance is not just in
the heat for this. Binance is also
getting a lot of heat right now for this
basically leaked offering of how Binance
forces new ICOs or coin or token
listings to provide a lot of of of sort
of their base token or uh you know their
their order book if you will uh and uh
some of their reserves to Binance. So
either Binance can profit or to
potentially stabilize the market. Now
this depends on which way you want to
look at it. But take a look at this. All
of this has to do with this guy who has
a company called Try Limitless. Not
sponsored. I haven't checked it out. I
don't know anything about it. But this
guy's following's been blowing up, CJH
Tech. And he's his following's been
blowing up because he got an offer from
Binance for listing on Binance. And the
offering on Binance was very different
from Coinbase. Coinbase said, "Hey, if
you want to list on Coinbase, just build
something meaningful." Binance says,
"Hey, we want you to give us 1% so we
could do an airdrop on day one when we
listed. Then we want 3% of your token
supply so we could airdrop that in 6
months to kind of keep momentum going.
Then we want 1% to pay for our own
marketing for your product. Then we want
100% of total value locked for a token
pool on Pancake Swap. We also want a
$250,000
security deposit, they say to prevent
rugps, which there's some argument for
this. 3% to be reserved for the uh BNB
Hodler program, $200,000 worth of tokens
uh to be set aside at the best possible
pricing for Binance affiliate marketers,
and $2 million of a BNB security deposit
to get you a listing on Binance. So
basically, we want like $3 million worth
of assets and we want you to put those
where we direct them into our marketing
into our Binance stable coin uh or it's
not actually the stable coin. The BNB is
not a stable coin, but into the Binance
token. We want uh you to pay for our
marketing and we'll do all this stuff
for you. You're going to pay for it out
of the proceeds from your offering and
you're going to put all this money in as
a as a security deposit so that way you
can't rug or at least you reduce the
chances of rugging. Now, this offering
was supposed to be under an NDA, but
what happened is CJ got the offer from
the Binance salesperson before he ever
signed the NDA. This is what he says.
And Binance is now lashing out like CZ
blocked this guy. CZ is, you know, and
Binance are claiming that this guy's a
fraud, that he shouldn't be leaking this
information. But all it's doing is
actually providing more evidence. See,
here's CZ. Wow, this guy really clout
chasing, but what a loser. I didn't even
know who he was until he posted a fake
image saying I blocked him. I could make
it real, but I will choose to mute
instead. Ignore is the best rejection.
Meanwhile, CZ is literally lashing out
on X and he probably blocked him and
then unblocked him or whatever. Uh, this
is just leading people to combine these
two things and go, "Man, there's some
shady stuff going on at Binance." So,
did Binance have anything to do with
this order book manipulation and this
$19 billion rug pull that left people
seeing their life savings absolutely
destroyed? I mean, you had people
complaining about getting rugged for $9
million
instantaneously. The market reaction was
so violent heavily because of Binance's
failed orderbook system that, you know,
here's a guy who was like, "I thought
about taking my own life. I lost
$400,000.
There's another guy who's like, I lost
$9 million basically instantaneously.
Worst day of my life financially. And
these are people who've got like Binance
and BNB in their their username on
Twitter. These are people who are like
super excited uh about Binance. They
love the leverage they could get there.
They're super like gung-ho uh users of
this platform who got rubbed. And so a
lot of folks are pissed. They're going,
"Wait, Binance is now going to give I
think it's up to $300 million in
Actually, I wrote down my notes on this.
Uh Binance is giving some money back in
the form of an airdrop." But a lot of
people are like, "Dude, this this
doesn't even scratch the surface of the
damage that was caused." So, if you look
at the uh distributions, Binance is
going to distribute between $4 and
$6,000 in USDC totaling $300 million to
eligible losers who were liquidated by
at least $50. And the liquidations
represent at least the 30% loss ratio of
the account. Now, what's really
interesting about this is
$300 million divided by the user base
that got liquidated here works out to
about $187
of stimulus per one trader because 1.6
million people lost because of that
Binance glitch. That works out to $187
per user,
$4 to $6,000 range. you know, worst
downturn since the FTX disaster. So,
a lot of folks are like, "This is crazy.
It was their fault $19 billion got
liquidated, and they're giving a
fraction back at the same time as, you
know, people see this manipulation of
potentially new listings as just a way
for Binance to profit off the backs of
people." Now, other people say, "Hey,
this is actually just Binance trying to
stabilize new listings." And I think
they have somewhat of a point there. I
think new listings are quite likely to
often get rugpulled. So, requiring
security deposits is probably a smart
thing, not surprising. Now, is it
Binance's fault that they ended up
leading this, you know, cross margin
liquidation, which is basically where
you, you know, leverage up your wrapped
Ethereum or wrapped Salana positions or
your stable coin positions to get 20 to
30x leverage on Binance. Is it likely
that that very leverage system and the
failure failures of the technology
platform led to a lot of people lose
money? Of course. Which is ironic
because now what a lot of people in the
crypto community are doing is they're
actually saying hey we need a regulated
exchange which is kind of hilarious
because like the whole point that you
know people got so excited about with
crypto with for was that oh it's going
to be deregulated DeFi is great but this
is exactly what happens when you have
unregulated broker dealers and
exchanges. Now, most of the lawsuits
from the SEC against platforms like uh
you know uh Binance have been dropped
because Trump has gone you know all in
pro crypto. But this is exactly why
people are like bro like nobody likes
the suits but you want some safeguards
at the suits and this is why investor
protections exist because when people
get rugged like this they're like yo
where was the government? It's like,
well, you wanted DeFi, you know, even
though it's a centralized exchange,
obviously, you wanted no regulation. You
wanted less regulation. So, it's kind of
ironic now how many people are like, I'm
taking my money out of Binance. I want a
regulated platform. It's like, well,
yeah. Uh, anyway, so, uh, this is now
where people are joking like your funds
are not SEFU at Binance because Binance
always says this. this by Safu has to do
with, you know, their desire uh to say
that funds are backed one to one uh
especially in stable coin assets. But
again, I started this whole segment out
with saying you got to be careful of
that pitch because we've never actually
seen at least I have it. Maybe I'm
wrong. Maybe it's out there. Don't sue
me, bro. This is my video my my opinion
here, right? But the reserves in the
SEFU fund, they're designed to protect
users in emergencies.
Uh but like this is this is not backed
at least that I've seen by credible
audits. So the SEFU fund yeah it exists
but we don't have the actual
transparency to say oh yeah yeah yeah
we're actually good here. It's not like
there's cypic protection uh that you
have that's backed by you know or or
like FDIC protection that's basically
backed by Jerome Powell. You're not you
don't have those sort of backings. So,
the fund exists, lacks independent,
verified thirdparty audits as far as I
can tell. They show Binance, like they
show wallet addresses, but we don't know
what kind of debts are against that,
right? So, we have to be careful of that
as well. Like, it's easy to flash around
a wallet address, but how many
liabilities are against that? So, you
got to be really careful with these
these platforms. You know, it's it's uh
they're they're in a little bit of a
poopy dupy. You know, is Binance going
to go bankrupt here or whatever? No.
Like, they'll get through this. they'll
be fine. Uh but
you know, it's something to pay
attention to. Now, I know a lot of
people are talking about hyperlid. Look,
what you have to remember is leverage,
leverage, leverage, leverage in this
sort of market. If there's anything that
I could advocate, and I hate sounding
like this because it's like so Dave
Ramseyesque, and I've always been a big
fan of like mortgage debt and like
secured loans that I have never before
in my life been of this mindset that
this is a great time to do whatever you
can, especially at all-time highs, to
pay off debt. Do whatever you can to pay
off debt. Get out of debt. Be safe.
Because look, I get it. We love that
song are going up. You know, this
morning on the alpha report, we're like,
"Hey, MP materials, it's going to go
down." Rejecting off 100. It's done it
multiple times before. Look at what's
happening. Okay, we were at pre-market.
We were at like 98.65. It's now at $89.
That's like a 9% decline from what we
talked about in the alpha report this
morning. My point is downturns can
happen very, very, very, very, very
quickly. And you need to be prepared for
that. And the best way to be prepared is
not losing sleep at night because you're
going to get margin called. You're going
to get screwed by debt. Understand the
debts you have in life. It's not just
credit cards. It's not just buy now pay
later. It's not just margin debt. It's
all of it together. Household debt. And
it's taxes that you owe, right?
Remember, you got tax bills coming,
credit cards, buy now pay later, uh
utility bills, mortgage bills, rent
payments, car bills, car debt, student
loan debt, whatever. All that is
fine when we're at the top of the
market. But when we go into a recession,
which I pray we don't. I pray we don't.
But when we do, all that stuff stacks up
and it makes for a really crappy decade
cuz, you know, I think if we hit a
recession, it's going to be a decade of
hell to to try to actually get people
jobs again. That's why I hope we don't.
Uh, and so that's why I'm a big fan of
preparing for that. Anyway, that's my
take on what's going on with Binance.
Why not advertise these things that you
told us here? I feel like nobody else
knows about this.
>> We'll we'll try a little advertising and
see how it goes.
>> Congratulations, man. You have done so
much. People love you. People look up to
you.
>> Kevin Praath there, financial analyst
and YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always great
to get your take.
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