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What the Fed *JUST* Said || Recession & HIKES!

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hey everyone we kevin here let's do a

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breakdown of exactly what jerome powell

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just said what we got from the summary

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of economic projections what we have in

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terms of when inflation is expected to

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go down how it's going to go down

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because jay powell gives us kind of an

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interesting path for how he expects

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inflation to go down which is really

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important because then we can align with

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that expectation to where if we see

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month-over-month deviation in that we

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know to either go bearish or bullish

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okay folks let's get right into it we'll

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also get answers on the wage price

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spiral and a whole lot of other

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information this was a very good fed

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meeting started off a little dirty

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though because we got the sep the scp

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came in much worse than expected gdp

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came in at an estimate of 2.8 percent

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for 2022. the bloomberg estimate was

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three point five percent i was guessing

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between three and three five seeing a

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two in the front was not good markets

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did not like that in fact if you see

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what markets reacted with when they saw

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that gdp decline we started getting

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fears of stagflation we saw markets

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quickly move down here breaking below uh

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some of our support levels here only to

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recover later in the meeting and that's

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because of jerome powell's responses to

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some of the things that we saw here the

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inflation number on the projections here

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was not something that we thought would

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be very important to pay attention to

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anyway and instead something that we

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really wanted to watch for was this

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right here the fed's

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the fed funds rate expectation was 1.9

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for the end of the year including today

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there are seven meetings left for the

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rest of the year that includes the

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meeting that just concluded so that

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means we only have six more to go if

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every of these seven meetings results in

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a .25 basis or 0.25 or 25 basis point

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hike then we would end up with at an end

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of the year lower bound interest rate of

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1.75 with an upper bound at 2

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and that could align with this 1.9

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percent though what was a little

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shocking was the range of estimates

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were substantially larger

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potentially suggesting that we could end

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up seeing higher rates like a 50 basis

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point hike towards the end of the year

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if we see a if we don't see inflation

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come down you've got pretty much what

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we're assuming is uh bollard over here

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who was the only dissenting member

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during this meeting to raise rates a

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quarter of a point which obviously we

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raised rates a quarter of a point that's

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the headline news big deal uh bullard

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was going for a 50 basis point hike he

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was the only one so by a vote of eight

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to one we did get a 25

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basis point hike

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uh again bloomberg was expecting here

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something around uh an estimate of about

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1.55

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sorry this is bloomberg right here

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bloomberg was expecting

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1.55 to be the end of the year rate i

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was expecting 1.6 as the end of the year

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rate we ended up getting 1.9 so this is

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where we initially got some of that

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heartache when we first saw the scp come

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out we're like oh crap

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less like higher rates and worse gdp not

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good so the market's reaction initially

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was very negative fortunately jpow

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whether through clever wordsmithing or

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what ended up talking his way straight

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out of the pain because he gave us a lot

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of clarity so let's go through exactly

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what he said first uh regarding rates

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okay we're up 25 basis points we expect

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to pretty much raise rates at least the

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the seven meetings this year uh

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including this one so each of the next

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six meetings we're expecting to raise

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rates quote steadily and even at one

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point jerome powell mentioned yeah seven

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rate hikes this year now i don't know if

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he meant to say that or if he was

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hypothetically saying that but he did

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those words did come out of his mouth

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and i think that's because honestly

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that's just the baseline expectation

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right now that at every single meeting

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this year the six more to come we will

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have a 25 basis point height also a lot

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of progress was made on balance sheet

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reduction the full plan is expected to

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be announced in a coming meeting but

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they're actually going to give us a lot

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of guidance in the minutes that come out

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in about three weeks for this meeting in

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terms of what to expect he said it would

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be very familiar to us usually we see

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about a 90 billion per month balance

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sheet runoff and that means it would

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take us somewhere around 15 to 16 months

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to actually really start constraining

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the economy because there's so much

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money floating around in banks and on

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the on reverse repo balance sheets that

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that really it's going to be a while

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before the balance sheet actually

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impacts the economy in my opinion

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there's going to be a big lag here of

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probably a year to a year and a half the

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rates are going to matter more for

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constraining the economy and bringing

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that inflation down

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but it could be as soon as the may

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meeting that they start reducing the

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balance sheet not this time regarding

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gdp and this was really important

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because remember that scp was ugly why

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did it come in at 2.8 percent jerome

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powell says it came in at 2.8 because of

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spillovers from the war higher oil and

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higher commodity prices and that this is

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why they assessed a 2.8 gdp however he

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says let's remember this is still very

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strong he put us back into like historic

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perspective he did a really great job

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here he says look 2.8 percent is great

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we expect it to be like 2.1 and 2 for

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the years going forward in fact you

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could see exactly that i'll show you

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that really quick in the summary of

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economic projection so you can see that

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uh there you go top line number right

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here we expect uh 2.2 percent in 2023

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and 2 percent of 2024 and he goes back

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and says look if we got a 2.8 percent

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print and we weren't you know and we

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didn't have the pandemic 2.8 would be a

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great thing

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so it shouldn't be seen as a negative

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that we came in at 2.8 even though that

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was my initial reaction and so was the

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market's initial reaction first then he

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was asked uh so this was interesting he

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says uh this this would have been one of

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the strongest years again had it not

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been for the pandemic

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then he talks about employment and the

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wage price spiral he talks about how a

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way uh labor force participation going

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up should actually help reduce wage

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pressures and eliminate the risk of a

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wage price spiral there are currently

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1.7 job openings for every unemployed

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person

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and he does agree that wages going up is

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a great thing he sees wages going up but

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he says this is an important line here

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listen to this one quote

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increases are consistent with two

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percent inflation over time we do not

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see evidence of a wage price spiral huge

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okay that's that's really big that

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doesn't mean he's right uh you know

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numbers could change next month we could

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go oh crap right but remember the last

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bls labor report came in it was zero

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percent month-over-month inflation uh

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for wages which not so great for workers

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but in terms of the wage price file

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great

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uh he was very frustrated about people

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suggesting that the federal reserve is

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behind that they're falling behind and

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and he very aggressively replied and

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said look some of our estimates actually

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put our estimates for interest rate

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increases above the neutral rate the

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neutral rate is two percent to about two

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and a half percent and uh what we're

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seeing on some of these projections is

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that we could actually end up seeing the

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uh our interest rates our federal

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reserve interest rates here they see the

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projection how it says 2.8 percent there

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for 2023

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and 2024 that is above the neutral rate

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and so j-pal is like this is us running

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ahead this is us not behind so obviously

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a lot of people listening to this are

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going to say dude he's way behind

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because because he is but he got really

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frustrated about people saying that he's

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like we're not behind we're on it

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so a little bit of a j-pal anger there

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strategizing for that okay moving on

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with uh j-pal here so what about

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supply disruptions obviously lasting

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longer than expected but how is

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inflation going to be measured now and

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this was so beautiful because you've

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heard me on this channel talk about how

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there's old inflation and that's the

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original kovid shock the original supply

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chain disruptions and then there's the

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new inflation and those two have now

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merged to create this monster of

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inflation and so the question is jerome

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powell when did you expect

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inflation to go down originally and how

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do you think inflation's going to go

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down now this was really interesting so

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what i did is i drew a picture to

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basically show you

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uh graphically what he said so this is

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that picture right here okay so here's

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how this works the green line let's just

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say with these little green dates here

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was his original expectation he thought

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that we would see a peak

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uh in march of 2022 that we would hit

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peak inflation and then the course is

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really interesting he said that he

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thought inflation would come down

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level out for a while and then towards

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the end of the year in q4 going towards

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december fall more rapidly

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however because of the new style of

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inflation he now appears to be pricing

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in about a three to four month delay to

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the peak so this actually makes the peak

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more likely to be around q3

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2022 uh that would be somewhere around

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uh let's see we got april may june there

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will be about july right maybe somewhere

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between july and september for the uh

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for the end

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uh so now if we look at uh the same

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course he ends up saying that he doesn't

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believe we're going to see that

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we'll see that leveling off maybe

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between q3 and q4 but then that more

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rapid deceleration and inflation not

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until the first quarter of 2023 he says

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so in other words he's delayed

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everything by about three to four months

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what does this mean for you well it

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means you really have to a watch the

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month-over-month data really really

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important because the year over year is

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going to have you know some high

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comparisons to last year in may june

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july

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but the month-over-month data is what

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you want to watch but also you really

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want to watch this time frame right here

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june july

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august september that's what you want to

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pay attention to why do you want to pay

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attention to that time frame because we

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know the next cpi report that comes out

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from march april may we know all those

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reports are going to be high because of

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war that's already priced in the feds

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are already looking past that in other

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words

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the fed thinks that right now we're

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doing this we're still going

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on the roller coaster right over here

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right uh and so when we when we get to

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that peak

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uh

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or at least q3 of 2022 if we don't

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actually hit a peak in q3

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that's probably when the fed's going to

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have to be a little bit more aggressive

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and go for that 50 basis point hike

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that's a really really big takeaway from

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this fed meeting so you really want to

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sear that that image or like print it

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out or whatever into your mind because

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it's a really big deal for what he just

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said

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so uh of course he mentioned his goal is

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to promote a long expansion which is

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only possible with price stability he uh

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does say it's going to take longer than

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expected to get inflation back down but

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they're going to be very nimble when it

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comes to the data okay this is not so

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exciting here is more exciting

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recession he says in my view the

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probability of a recession is not

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particularly elevated right now he

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brushed off questions about the 10-2 did

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not care about the potential for an

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inverted yield curve at all does not see

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an increased potential in a recession

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says the labor market is strong payroll

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job growth is continuing household and

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business balance sheets are very strong

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uh we know we found out this morning

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that the average consumer balance sheet

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is larger by the tune of about 16 600

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dollars so we still have excess money

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in basically our savings accounts or

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whatever and jerome powell combines all

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this data and says look we we think the

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economy is set for uh easily absorbing

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these potentially seven rate hikes over

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the you know the next uh uh you know now

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set including today seven meetings to

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come and uh no big issues here regarding

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sanctions he's in favor of the sanctions

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but really tried to dodge any kind of uh

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political liability there uh and so it

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didn't have much for us to say there but

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i think if if we sum this up honestly

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what did we get here folks no rug pull

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this is what we were expecting we were

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not expecting to get rug pulled we

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pretty much got what we expected we did

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get a worse estimate for gdp and a

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little bit higher of a of an estimate

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for the fed funds rate but we've been

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we've been expecting seven straight 25

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basis point hikes so okay a little

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softer gdp we got what we expected on

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inflation talk we now know a time frame

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for inflation we know what data they're

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going to look at i mean i i

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you can't communicate any more clearly

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than drum powell did today there's no

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rug pull it shows us that he's not

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trying to you know

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surprise us or shock and awe us bullard

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is but bullard's in the minority he was

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the one voting all by himself of the

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other eight people like bollard your

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nuts you know it's like bullard's trying

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to do the uh

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bill ackman you know shock and awe and

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everybody else is like you're nuts okay

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we're gonna wait for that data july to

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september we're gonna be patient with it

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we think the economy is capable here

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personally with uh the spy and the qqq

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barely off their zero percent fibonacci

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lines i'm bullish on this i like this

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meeting a lot i was a little nervous

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initially when i saw that sep but coming

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out of it i'm happy about this thank you

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much for watching folks and we will see

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you in the next one thanks so much bye

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