Chase WARNS Market Crash will KEEP GOING [Fed Warning]
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boy oh boy Marco from JP Morgan is very
unhappy but we're not going to start
with him we're going to start with what
else is being said and we'll end up with
jpm's commentary on why this stock
market correction that may now be
starting might continue even after this
earnings week now that's even more
bearish than what I said just a couple
days ago we made a very detailed video
and said look this week is important we
have a lot of earnings this week that
are going to give us a lot of insights
into the consumer from telecoms to
artificial intelligence to advertising
like the Roku and uh look metas right
the microsofts we've got huge earnings
this week the Autos Tesla and otherwise
and so I thought this week would be a
catalyst for how is 72% of our economy
are the consumers finally rolling over
are they finally saying yes the charge
off the massive doubling of charge offs
that we've seen at Banks is finally
starting to take a toll and is finally
stopping the ridiculous greed and
ludicrous euphoric spending that we're
seeing will this week finally tell us
that well according to Marco doesn't
matter what happens this week things are
going to keep getting worse not better
so before we hit him because he's
obviously pretty dang bearish let's try
to position ourselves a little bit so
here is the market ears description of
where we sit with flows equity inflows
and as you can see we've clearly gone
from a level of extreme bullishness on
inflows uh back uh postco obviously you
could see these spikes here uh and you
could see them again right here but
we've gone from these levels that are
maybe not all the way at the top of
extreme bull but they've certainly
topped out there towards the beginning
of
2024 which makes sense the market going
up the way it has has made sense for a
while and I'll tell you why there's this
reason it is that we went into this
period right here expecting seven rate
Cuts this year that has now been reduced
to a market estimate of just
1.6 and the fact that the market has
only moved from this level to here in
terms of its actual bullish versus
bearish positioning does suggest maybe
there's a bit more to go but do only 1.6
rate Cuts take us all the way to extreme
bar probably not we'd probably have to
see more things break to get to that
sort of level though it is possible
because at the end of last year between
about July 19th and October 31st we had
a pretty bearish session markets were
down substantially we had a correction
in the cues and many stocks peaked out
in July to bottom out on Halloween and
what's fascinating about that is we can
actually compare the timeline of the
greed and fear index now now just Friday
we were at a 31 on fear we're at 38 now
so we've recovered a little bit this
makes sense you get a bounce today the
day after Extreme bearishness well the
highest level of fear we've seen a while
but take a look at the Timeline you can
see we've gone down to this level of
fear at about a 32 but we've seen this
before where we come down and bounce and
it's right here we come down into fear
bounce back up to neutral or maybe even
greed only to truly sell off a few weeks
later into extreme fear now this is
fascinating because it does suggest we
might end up having to push to extreme
fear before we could truly Mark a bottom
on whatever the heck is happening in
markets right now and so this is
interesting because it brings up Marco's
argument on why we might actually
continue to see a selloff and so that
argument is right here another reason
keeping us with a defensive stance is
invest
positioning as we highlighted in our
sister publication flows and liquidity
the current market narrative and
patterns are increasingly resembling
those of last summer that's not good as
inflation surprises to the upside and
the fed or other central bank rate cuts
are priced out now I don't actually
think we're going to see other rate Cuts
priced out by other markets it's mostly
the us but it's worth remembering that
if us rates stay higher and everybody
else reduces their rates that makes the
dollar more desirable because people
want to buy our bonds which increases
demand for the dollar so dollar goes up
that's actually bad for earnings I think
people forget that currency and a strong
dollar matters to earnings companies
that are selling 25 to 50% of their
goods and services outside of the United
States they get hit by currency
adjustments and those can be painful in
periods of a strong strong dollar of
course at the same time we also have
this comment here from Marco which
suggests investors are starting to look
at reducing overweights or adding adding
hedges in Risk markets such as equities
and credit now that's interesting
because I thought hm well the greed and
fear index actually lets us know how
many people are starting to buy puts so
I went over here and looked okay Market
momentum's neutral okay so it's not a
momentum problem okay stock price
strength has gone fear okay that's fine
we've done that before you know we did
that in January oh okay stock price
breath okay whatever so the difference
between the ups and downs okay fear
that's not a big deal
ooh what do we have here ah interesting
we haven't actually gotten this close to
a you know into the 90s even I was say I
guess we were in the low 90s over here
but we haven't gotten past
a95 since over here when we had our
correction which was again again between
that July you can see in July people
start realizing oh no there's your
bottom right there July 19th what did I
say there's your bottom all of a sudden
oh we need to start picking up the
hedges pick up the hedges pick up the
hedges we run up here to about n that's
about where we are now August 16th and
look at that you actually had to become
positive for the market correction to
stop you had to have people buying more
puts than calls for the market
correction to finally get to a phase of
uh ending and we have not hit that yet
if anything you could argue that we sort
of got rejected over here at the one so
we might be setting up for some more of
those Hedges especially since those have
started being really profitable uh a lot
of people in the stocks and sitech group
they know this they've been buying armp
puts and at least last week going into
Friday we're like okay that's a good
move down maybe take some profits people
were doing really well on those now uh
what we want to talk about though is
what
when when does this end you know what
else is Marco seeing and what are some
of the other uh investors seeing well
Marco thinks that ultimately we're going
to see Fed revisions and some fed
hawkishness now I don't think that the
Federal Reserve is actually going to
raise interest rates again I think the
ceiling is in for rates unless we get
some really bad reports but I got to say
I am folks have forgotten that the
Federal Reserve actually matters it's
not just earnings it's the FED now I'm
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house.com so now let's focus on the fed
when is the next fed day when's When's
the next time Jay is going to come give
us a good old rug and tuggin it's May
1st May 1st is also the deadline to
invest in house act by the way but
anyway May 1st we are going to get a
Powell that has literally gone from the
last two meetings January and March we
had a Powell that said H you know the
recent data might just be a bump in the
road we think it's going to be lumpy and
bumpy to get inflation down we went from
that kind of jpow to last week getting a
jpow that
said we haven't gotten any more
confidence from the latest inflation
reports well that's not great if the
last three inflation reports were not
confidence inducing in any direction
then that actually means even if we get
a good report or two good reports we're
going to get a Fed that might say h one
report doesn't make a trend two reports
don't make a trend what if they come in
even worse Tom Lee one of our faite
Market Bulls the person who's always a
market bull I feel like it's redundant
suggest oh well inflation's going to
surprise to the downside great but what
if it surprises to the upside what if we
truly are visiting the potential of a
second wave now that's not my base case
I think we go through a bit of a
correction here and as long as we can
avoid a joblessness recession maybe we
could stick the soft Landing but boy we
better start getting some good data
coming in soon because otherwise things
can get poop Dy very very quickly
especially since you're starting to get
Wall Street waking up to that
realization here's sock gen sock gen
economists no longer expect Fed rate
Cuts this year and they see a no Landing
scenario now they do think they're not
expecting a wholesale risk off across
Assets in other words everybody sort of
dumping their risk assets they don't
actually expect a wholesale sale selloff
but then again I try to read multiple
different perspectives to make sure that
I'm not just relying on one for example
another perspective that I was looking
into today was the Cadence Design
earnings call just to see hey you know
what are we starting to get with some of
the AI earnings and let's just say their
guidance wasn't as optimistic as people
expected they were asked about backlog
which came in less their Q2 numbers came
in lower than expected and when they
were asked about the summer and what
people should expect for 4 for Q3 and 4
Kaden's designs sort of suggested ah
we'll let you know when when we figure
it out so you're starting to see maybe a
little bit of that toppess and some of
that earnings growth that you might
expect from some of the AI companies so
it does make sense that there could be
some rich valuations which is very much
in line with what Marco suggests uh over
at JPM now it is a concern and I really
hope this is not the case but there is a
real concern that maybe we're repeating
the same mistake of the 70s this is TS
Lombard this would be very bearish and
obviously here they've got the 2020s in
red and the 70s uh in black and they're
suggesting hey the FED might be going
down the same exact path that led to the
problem in the 70s where you started
cutting inflation reanimated and then
you had to get Paul vard that would be
basically this time is not different we
get the same is the 70s now that's not
my base case I don't think that's going
to happen I pray that doesn't happen
because it's going to drive us into
recession and a lot of joblessness I
don't want to see that because
recessions are very painful for everyone
I don't like when people lose jobs bad
okay uh now obviously recessions to some
extent are from a macro point of view
healthy right there is a clearing that
happens when you have a recession bad
businesses that shouldn't be alive
zombie businesses go bankrupt and they
leave this is very normal it's a good
healthy clearing process and it allows
companies to lay off people that aren't
as functional or practical to the
business or maybe as productive as
people assume that they should be and
the companies are able to start over
with less people or or start fresh with
fewer people and try to build from there
maybe that's exactly what Tesla's doing
right now but the real concern here is
is the market right now
convinced that JP Pal's is not going to
talk dirty to us on May
1st and I kind of think the market is
mostly tenuous about earnings right now
which I'm not that optimistic on I'm
probably if I had to pick between a
scale of 1 to 10 on optimism for
earnings it be like a three and a half
so I'm definitely on the more sort of
like I think we're going to miss side or
we'll beat but we won't beat as much as
Wall Street is actually expecting and so
we'll see sell-offs we'll see profit
taking and then we'll get that
correction we're looking for that
correction could really be accelerated
by a positive
japal as in like I should say a hawkish
japal right so now we should take the
other side of this case as well what if
we have really good earnings what if
everything starts going back to the Moon
because we have really good earnings how
can we have a very bearish setup well we
got to get a doish japal a japal who
says hey we still plan to cut this year
he might say that he said that before he
could say it this year or this meeting
he probably will actually hey our base
case is still to cut this year but if
the data keeps coming in like this maybe
we won't but what if you get a Powell
who says hey even with the latest data
it's good enough for us to cut well that
would be bullish and then you get
bullish
earnings maybe maybe the fear was right
for a short window of time we had our
little correction nominal correction and
we're back to the races that's possible
but it's really going to rely on
earnings beating well past expectations
a a more dovish pow and getting softer
CPI reports I think wishing for all
three of those with prices that is stock
valuations where they are now is a
recipe for disaster that's my take I
just hope that that sort of recipe for
disaster doesn't create a stock market
selloff that drives us into recession
now some people have asked me about this
they're like Kevin how can a stock
market sell off drive us into recession
it's simple as the stock market sells
off earnings need to do whatever or
companies need to do whatever they can
do to beat on earnings again and so
they'll cut lay off that starts the
cycle anyway these are some thoughts for
tonight Tesla earnings tomorrow big day
will be covering them thank you so much
for being here and we'll see you
tomorrow morning for the market open
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