Tesla's CFO *JUST* Quit.
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well well well Zachary kirkorn off Tesla
just stepped down and a lot of people
are wondering uh oh is this a really bad
sign of things to come over at Tesla the
last time this happened was actually
when Zach got his job it was when Deepak
left in January of 2019. Tesla stock
dropped about four percent right after
that because usually people associate a
CFO leaving with some kind of impending
either legal investigation into finances
declines in the business or some kind of
other massive stress coming up at the
business otherwise why would you leave a
job that pays pretty dang well at least
when you look up the latest reports Zach
the current well now leaving CEO was
paid around a base salary of just
upwards of two hundred sixty thousand
dollars but stock based comp was in
excess of 40 plus million dollars to
where Zach could have created a net
worth of potentially as much as a
hundred million dollars just by working
at Tesla as a CFO for the last four
years and a total tenure a Tesla of 13
years he started out as an intern at
Microsoft and eventually got into the
finance department at Tesla where he
worked his way up to CFO
so now it's worth analyzing all right
what do we potentially think is
happening here because as we know Elon
told us in the last shareholder meeting
the annual shareholder meeting that this
next year will be difficult not only is
Tesla going to be launching the Cyber
truck but it's going to continue scaling
Austin Berlin Northeast Mexico it's
going to be dealing with Supply chains
staff changes margin changes pressure
from Elon and Zach mentioned in his last
earnings call that he conducted that the
company is now going to take more of a
focus
on operating margins instead of just
vehicle margins and this is a pretty
interesting transition Zach claimed that
this was due to the company's greater
Focus or greater growth rates from the
energy side of the business and so
therefore it would make sense to
evaluate the company based on operating
margin rather than just gross vehicle
margin of course others say Elon Musk
hopping in and suggesting we could sell
these cars for basically no gross
vehicle margin and make it all up in FSD
could potentially have been a place
where Elon and Zach had major
differences especially since recognizing
revenues for full self-driving a product
that still is in beta outside the
autopilot portion still in the works and
this idea well I mean actually being
able to fully recognize this Revenue
isn't really possible until you have a
complete product right then on top of
that
you also gotta remember hey Elon said in
the last earnings call hey we're
thinking about licensing our FSD or
autopilot to other uh manufacturers like
maybe a Ford or GM but then again Elon
also said that a few years ago so this
has been said before which all kind of
goes back to hmm is there potentially a
high expectation from Zach to do exactly
as Elon wishes and under the pressure of
Elon potentially the high stress levels
of the job lead to something where Zach
who's now 39 says I'm out it's entirely
possible in fact Fortune just put
together a piece talking about how
during these recessionary environments
it's extremely common for individuals
who are working at a company like Zach
and uh his husband apparently they got
married in May 6 2018 means that they've
been together for a bit here uh Daniel
by the way used to work at UH open table
and now works at uh I think it's a like
a medical startup also in Austin Texas
both of them live in Austin Texas in
fact uh they moved to Austin when Elon
moved to Austin and ended up buying a
3.3ish million dollar Lakefront home in
Austin so clearly seemed committed to
Austin even the husband moved with to
Austin from the Bay Area when Zach moved
his position over to Austin they knew
Tesla headquarters but again what's the
big thing that we analyze well Zach
being 39 having made a lot of money at
Tesla maybe has gotten to the stage of
burnout and this is kind of what Fortune
had been alluding to Fortune Magazine
had been alluding to this idea that
Executives during recessionary times
and now tend to leave they tend to burn
out because transitions are happening so
rapidly and the job just isn't what it
used to be now every company is not
focused just on Revenue growth but on
margins layoffs artificial intelligence
looking at dealing with investor
relations in a different more uncertain
and potentially frustrated way these are
all things that add serious stress to a
job and don't get me wrong Zach was
compensated extremely well which is a
sign that Tesla highly valued Zach but
that doesn't mean the job isn't
stressful and so when I kind of think
about what are reasons why Zach could
have left and I break them out there are
a few particular reasons number one
would be
bad numbers coming for Tesla Elon kind
of alluded that the next year would be
difficult but if it was just bad numbers
sex compensated enough to get through
that right
another option is stress basically what
I've been outlining this whole video I
think this is much more likely some kind
of stress and executive burnout made
enough money what is extra money at this
level actually matter like you're 39 you
got plenty of money maybe just retire
without actually calling it retirement
some people say maybe Zach's open to a
new opportunity or some kind of startup
and I think while in the future he
probably will be I think this is kind of
going to be like a breakup where you you
need some transition time before you
just hop over right into a new
opportunity and I don't think somebody
would have been willing to pay Zach as
much as he was making at Tesla to
convince him to transition to a new
opportunity so I don't think it's a new
opportunity I don't necessarily think
it's just bad numbers for Tesla because
again you're compensated well enough I
think this is much more likely to be
burnt route I think it is hard though to
say and I think this is why we don't see
it in his outgoing LinkedIn message I
think it's hard to say oh uh yeah I'm
gonna retire after my 13 years at Tesla
because I'm burned out I think people
would look at this and go really like
you're 39 seriously you're burned out
like put some pants on and and get with
the program
but I think that actually could be the
real reason that this is a very
stressful role and being willing to say
oh yeah I'm retiring is not exactly
going to be the most popular thing to
say at 39 so it's much easier to say hey
look I had 13 years here I'm going to
help the company transition through the
end of the year thanks so much team
Tesla which is basically what we got
here it's also worth noting that if
there was really bad blood suddenly
between Zach and Tesla Zach probably
wouldn't stay around to the end of the
year though the extent of which he'll
actually end up staying around to the
end of the year nobody knows he could
say that today and quite literally pack
his bags tomorrow and be gone because
they're like all right we're good
transition over we're good right so
there is a real potential in my opinion
that there was definitely pressure and
stress from Elon to make sure we're
recognizing that FSD Revenue to uh you
know streamline the number of staffers
working in the g a portion which
includes the finance department is
definitely going to be pressure on
margins and stress and I think it's
likely that after four years of CFO and
13 total years of the company it's
totally possible that Zach just decided
you know what it's time for me to step
down obviously this is leading Tesla
star to sell off remember in 2019 it
sold out four percent on a CFO departure
and that didn't really affect the
long-term outcome of Tesla it is a
little surprising though because Zach
was often seen as the person who could
basically run Tesla earnings calls and
talk to Tesla investors the way a
finance person should rather than sort
of the more theoretical uh way that Elon
likes to talk to people on earnings
calls or scientific ways some like to
say instead people like numbers and Zach
was kind of seen as not only somebody
who could run those earnings calls but
also potentially somebody who could take
over as CEO in the future
both of these things a little bit of uh
well let's just put it this way they
both Mark a sad day for Tesla as Sac
will certainly be missed and a lot of
people will be very uh you know
disappointed in Zach's departure though
I personally think
this is all related to a combination of
rough year for Tesla stress got plenty
of funds time to move on maybe focus on
traveling or focus on you know spending
time with family it's hard to publicly
say spending time with family if you
don't already have kids I don't believe
Zach has kids uh so it's harder to say
oh yeah I'm gonna retire I'm gonna spend
time with family when you don't even
have kids but maybe that's part of the
next chapter maybe they have a surrogate
and they're getting ready to have a
child who knows there's so many things
that could be going on I can't really
pinpoint exactly what it is because
nobody will truly know the right reason
do I think this is a reason to look at
Tesla and say that's it uh elon's going
into surgery Zach's stepping down the
company screwed sell the stock no of
course not in fact the broader Market is
unpricing a lot of the recent Euphoria
we've had in the stock market you can
see that most heavily when you zoom in
to some of the smaller cap stocks that
have really had some run recently here
look for example uh up star or you could
look at uh you know Quantum over here
you could look at camber energy you
could look at c3ai moderna Redfin a lot
of these companies Beyond me open door a
lot of these companies that have gone
really euphoric I mean open to almost
five dollars now back down to 330.
Redfin was running like crazy and all of
a sudden now resetting back down a lot
of this recent stock market hype and
Euphoria is definitely being corrected
back down and to some extent that's very
healthy it's part of the Nike Swoosh
recovery and I've always called it a
volatile Nike Swoosh I can't say that uh
it has been a very volatile Nike Swoosh
so far it's basically felt like very
straight up but I've always called for
volatility and this is what we're seeing
here so I don't think anything here is
super fundamental or super concerning
and so in my opinion I think this is
just more of the same stock volatility
and we've got to wish sack the best
that's my take good luck out there and
we'll see you soon now I want you to
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