MAJOR *MAGA* Immigration DIVIDE [Musk & Vivek vs Trump] H-1B Disaster.

a lot of drama regarding Elon Musk and

potentially silencing and censoring

folks H1B visas immigration debates

anger at vake and musk by folks within

the Trump or Maga Community which then

you've got people on the left who are

sort of cheering this new division

amongst those on the right and a lot of

people might be hearing about some drama

going on with musk and VI a lot of

Democrats might even be looking at this

going like what's going on like how's

there so much infighting all of a sudden

what I wanted to do was basically give

you an overview of exactly what's going

on so you understand this immigration

H1B Visa debate I'll give you some of

the facts and arguments on both sides

and then at the end of this video If you

make it all the way to the end you're

going to get a special reward you're

going to get my opinion which for

whatever that's worth I guess uh you

could decide once we get there that's

pretty loud Jack you come say hi and

just Jack goes flushes the

toilet like the loudest flush I've ever

heard in my life it's all good May who

knows maybe the iPhone mic didn't even

hear it anyway here we go so uh let's

start with some of the cens censorship

stuff so uh first uh there's uh there's

this poster on X called Laura lomer uh

some people call her Super rightwing

other people say that she's just

somebody who gets a lot of engagement on

X well apparently she lost her blue

check mark for saying that musk had his

feelings hurt about her complaints

towards musk when she criticized him for

basically putting profits over Americans

and this is kind of the root of what the

debate is that's going on on one side

you have people who say oh musk and Viv

they're just corporate elitists and they

just care about more profit and that's

why they want to hey guys could you guys

chill out just a little bit okay I asked

you to be super quiet and and I can't

really concentrate thank you uh anyway

uh they they are just corporate

profiteers and they want to hire quote

unquote slaves from India and cheap

slave labor for 60 70,000 a year so that

way they can pad their corporate profits

and make more money basically and these

sort of arguments are really offending

obviously people like mosque and VI and

you know there have been allegations

that musk can get a little some people

say sensitive when you know things are

said about him on social media musk has

talked about this himself where he sort

of blamed his childhood and uh anyway

this kind of gets off into a tangent it

doesn't matter so much but the point is

apparently Laurel lumer yeah lummer has

now been uh suspended from X for 24

hours for doxing somebody's campaign

donations which seemed unrelated from

this whole debate that was going on uh

her blue check mark was also put under

review on X uh she alleges because she

criticized Elon Musk uh there are some

other accounts like conservative OG that

says they lost their gold badge in this

drama as well which led folks to claim

that basically Elon is now censoring

free speech to which other people say

what do you mean and taking away a badge

doesn't prevent you from talking but

then people counter and say yeah but if

you take away the blue badge you're

taking away their monetization and

you're basically demonetizing them for

saying something you don't like so I as

you could say like see here I'm not

trying to take a sight on on this but I

just want you to see how extreme this

has gotten because a lot of folks that

are pro Trump have up to this point all

pretty much been on the same side as far

as you could really tell but now you're

seeing this real Rift where on one side

you kind of have like your Nationalist

trumpers and then on the other side you

have the corporate trumpers if you will

so it's kind of like corporate versus

whatever it is got to be American okay

we we'll break this down a little bit

more so a lot of this drama actually

started when Donald Trump chose an

indianamerican he's a US citizen so it's

technically an American you know I mean

like if I'm going to call myself an

American he's an American why because

well I was born in Germany right I came

here and I got a green card I went

through the days of the ins uh and then

I became a legal citizen after years and

then only after I became a legal citizen

did I actually get married uh became a

citizen before I get married just worth

noting but anyway a lot of this drama

started because Donald Trump appointed

shim krishnam I probably butchered his

name but anyway as the White House

senior policy adviser for artificial

intelligence alongside David Sachs is

sort of an advisor and outside of a real

political uh position and this person

again born in India where we have you

know in America a lot obviously of

Indian workers in uh Tech but also in

leadership positions I mean just look

around at corporations we got a lot of

Corporations LED uh by indian-americans

and I'm not saying there's anything

wrong with it but what people are doing

is they're saying oh my gosh Americans

are being replaced by Indians and then

there's this counterargument that's like

wait whoa whoa wait wait a minute what

do you mean Americans are being replaced

by Indians these Indians are also

American and then it sort of opens up

this can of worms of like okay well what

is an American like how many generations

do you have to be here to be called an

American because if they're not an

American then I'm not an American either

remember I was born in Germany so I'm

technically I mean I guess those two

boys over there those knuckleheads Tech

what's up I guess technically they're uh

they're first gen Americans still half

German buddy and go practice

german yes I'm yeah there you

go all right anyway so uh this person uh

look he's actually got a pretty colorful

career he came back he came out here in

20 7 through an L1 Visa which is an

inter company transfer via Microsoft so

he's working for Microsoft you know and

obviously now people on the internet are

doing the whole Microsoft technical

support kind of like you know stuff I

mean there's honestly just a lot of

racism going on out there but anyway uh

this guy works for in horowits you know

these are like the bigly VCS he's been

an entrepreneur he's an author he's

worked for Microsoft Twitter Yahoo

Facebook snap he's worked with Elon on

Rebrand ax yeah he was born in India but

he he you know his dad to get him a

computer when he was young and learned

to code you know like he's Pro green

cards uh like he is he's kind of pretty

self-made from what I can tell like this

I don't know much about him but it kind

of seems inspiring he came here worked

hard it seems like uh and and he got

pretty far but now you've got people

posting things like do you really want

Indians running America and and then

people are like what shouldn't this be

about who has the best Merit rather than

the color of the skin or where they were

born you know like I personally still

think it's kind of crazy that you have

to have been born in America to be

president of the United States because

you don't get to choose where you were

born just like you don't get to choose

the color of your skin but anyway

whatever uh so anyway so it appears

there's a lot of this drama going on

about him being a foreigner but again

he's a US citizen so there are trending

posts now that are basically saying

things like do not remove caps on H1B

visas because we don't want more

h-1bs well we only have like 60 to

880,000 h-1bs a year which is a fraction

of the applications that this program

gets which gets somewhere around

according to USCIS uh somewhere around

400,000 applications a year but there

are complaints about there being too

many Indians or you know already too

many h-1bs Canada did it and now they

have too many immigrants and we should

just remove h-1bs in total and that what

really we should be doing is focusing on

American equity in other words American

fairness rather than allowing

corporations to use cheap slave labor to

replace you we should be focusing on

American fairness by giving all

Americans that chance so what does that

potentially mean well that potentially

means uh getting rid of the H1B process

all in all uh and only hiring people out

of American colleges in fact Tucker

Carlson says the H1B process robs

American college students of an

opportunity in America because you're

basically using a tricky Lottery system

that only has an application window 14

days out of the year and then it has a 2

to eight month process with it basically

it's so complicated to go through the

process you really only have

corporations who are able to get h-1bs

in because they're familiar with the H1B

process so you have basically massive

corporations who are able to take

advantage of that lower paid potential

worker whereas maybe small businesses

don't have the experience or money or

resources to use that process so small

businesses aren't the ones benefiting

and this is kind of where you enhance

that corporate issue you guys are so

loud I hear like everything you're

saying uh uh if you can though guys

please be a little quieter I'm telling

thank you uh so uh what's kind of wild

is if if the H1B process was available

to all businesses then maybe small

medium and large businesses could

benefit which technically it is but it's

such a legally involved process and you

got to wait so long for that worker to

show up that it's kind of hard for small

businesses to use the process I've tried

using it before in the past too and it's

kind of like dang this is really

complicated I don't think we can pull it

off and we just we never did because

we're just not that big of a company and

we're like all right never mind I guess

that's not going to work so anyway uh

like don't get me wrong I'm a big fan of

hiring American but I'm Al a big fan of

like hey like if I have a relationship

with somebody who lives outside of the

country and we can help them with a

solid job and housing or whatever else

great uh but then I also understand that

flip argument of well why not hire

American right so you kind of see the

two sides and Duality and I'll give you

my opinion on this and potential

solution in just a moment but what I

kind of see right now is you have this

Rift amongst uh people who seem to be

very very uh anti- Dei when it comes to

lgbtq so think about this let's just

assume for a moment that everybody

making this argument is anti- Dei for

you know

lgbtq or woke or whatever people say

okay and I'm not here saying that people

should be anti-equality or equal

opportunity for lgbtq I'm just saying it

seems like this is a group where

everybody seems to be in agreement that

oh they're anti like diversity equity

and inclusion but now there's a riff

that's formed and you actually have two

types of Dei so I'm calling it The anti-

Dei absolutist that's one group and

that's sort of your musk and Viv these

are the folks that are like only hire

the most qualified people that's it no

diversity or skin color or race none of

that is considered at all then you have

the other side side of the anti- Dei

camp and they kind of seem to be more

anti-di so like anti-diversity inclusion

but they want Equity they want equity

for Americans so basically hire American

and that's it okay but again like what's

an American this is sort of your

nationalistic Dei like no Dei but you

must hire American so it's like okay

okay okay okay got it so so you want

Equity amongst Americans anyway there's

probably better way to describe that

Rift but those are the two groups you

have so again on the corporate

absolutist ant the anti-de absolutist

side you have a vake and uh a musk and

you even have people like Patrick B

David Patrick B David chimes in and says

so you want me not to hire a high-

performing hardworking skilled Indian

and you want me to hire an American even

if that person is not capable lacks

skills and is entitled oh so you support

Dei all right so the problem with that

is Patrick B David basically says there

are only two options hire somebody not

qualified or hire somebody qualified and

foreign right so not qualified American

foreign and qualified but that's that

that is sort of um uh like an apples to

Orange compare apples to oranges

comparison you're you're not really

creating a fair comparison here and

don't you be wrong I respect Patrick but

David but let's be real here you could

be in a situation where you have

a highly qualified Foreigner and a

highly qualified American which makes

the situation a little bit more blurry

because then it's like okay do you put

him to a test do you put him to a

competition or do you always go for the

American well Elon Musk kind of responds

to this and he argues and says well we

should skim the top .1% of

workers like maybe graduates of schools

or colleges or whatever and that we

shouldn't allow anybody with a degree to

apply for an H1B but rather it should be

competitive rather than a random

Monopoly process so that way you could

actually find the best talent see musk

and VI believe that in order for America

to remain competitive you have to have

the best talent here in America by

attracting that Talent from all across

the world to America the vake says hey

the reason we hire foreign workers is

because our system and culture is broken

we need to replace the entire H1B system

because companies find that Americans

have an IQ deficit and basically it's a

lazy culture so this has pissed a lot of

people off because they're like wait a

minute now you're calling Americans lazy

but he does say our culture has

celebrated jocks and prom queens over

math olympiads or valedictorians the V

says that we have created a culture at

least since the 90s that has promoted

mediocrity and he says normal and

showing up to get your participation

trophy or your be in your class or

whatever that's just not going to cut it

in a competitive world anymore and it's

time for culture to wake up so until

then hire the hardest working most

qualified people wherever they're from

Patrick B David kind of argues this and

goes yeah I was an Iranian immigrant

willing to work 80 hour weeks and that's

why he says he was able to succeed and

in other words Patrick M David is making

this argument of like hey we should let

other people try to succeed as well Jack

would you mind not messing with the safe

at the moment of course social media

then immediately went to the extreme and

says it turns out the waste that the

department of governmental efficiency

wanted to cut from America was actually

Americans okay all right so this is

where you could see that things just on

social media get really ridiculously

extreme and frankly I think there there

is a simple solution to all of this uh

okay actually no there's never really a

simple solution to all of this but

here's my take on this okay my take is

we have to look at the first and

foremost problem the first and foremost

problem is that we are not educating

Americans the way we should that's my

take I ran for governor under that

believe in the state of California that

our schools suck it's not your fault

it's it's not your neighbor's fault it's

not the dude at Walmart's

fault it's frankly all of the

generations of leaders who were in

charge of our schooling before us who

gave us a kind of crap school system and

that sucks and I'm not here to try to

point the finger you know I've actually

tried to run for government to try to

help solve these problems because I

think everybody has a point but let's go

to the root of the problem if we had

look we are the best economy in the

world by a factor of two and if our K

through 12 schools in America were the

absolute best product in the world with

no close second just like we're the best

economy in the world by two what if we

had the best schools in the world by a

factor of two no close second then what

well we wouldn't be debating immigration

for talent because we'd be swimming in

talent in the United States and look I'm

not saying we aren't there is a lot of

talent in the United States but let's

say let's all we can all agree this we

can all agree on this our schools leave

something to be desired unless you have

a lot of money and you can send your

kids to a bunch of like you know prep

schools or private schools or boarding

schools or whatever I'm not sure people

want to go to that anyway it's kind of

impossible to compete with what some

other countries are doing in educating

their talent to be hyperco competitive

so yes our immigration system is

broken absolutely we should be fixing

our immigration system in fact this is

why you have some people saying hey like

if you want to attract the best talent

get rich rid of the H1B process and go

for 01 visas which basically only allow

people in with extraordinary Talent as

opposed to h-1bs which allow people in

with any you know with any specialty in

stem you know basically any Tech job uh

and and engineering and Mathematics and

Sciences right which which is a whole

host of different things and you don't

have to meet any kind of specific

criteria of talent you just sort of

lottery in and that's why people like

well if you lottery in and you didn't

even get in through competitiveness or

extraordinary Talent then you are just

robbing Americans of those jobs and

replacing them with cheaper labor I kind

of get that argument because you know

Patrick M David is like wait a minute

you're saying I should hire a less

qualified American who's entitled versus

you know someone with an H H1B Visa

who's you know hyper qualified but wait

a minute that's not what the H1B Visa

process is about H1B process doesn't

filter by the best

so that's kind of where this debate is

coming from so yeah look it's all broken

I totally agree it's broken you want to

say something come here are you gonna

compete in this world are you gonna work

hard and compete yeah good answer what

about you

Max he's bowling he's practicing his

competition right now aren't you taking

bowling lessons by the way so you can

compete yeah and golf lessons yeah nice

170 nice Max um taking League now too

huh

good for you man babies babies yeah yeah

you love your your babies we have five

babies at home uh all right anyway so I

wanted to get this out uh mostly because

I think it's it's pretty important to to

to try to provide some neutral Insight

on this because uh you know in my

opinion I I don't think my position is

very controversial to be Pro schools I

do see uh that social media as usual has

some real extremes you know there are

some extremes that are just straight up

racist there are some extremes that are

way extreme to the other opposite end

which are probably anti-American uh and

then there are reasonable arguments in

the middle which can be pro-american

which can be pro-school which can be

pro-legal immigration pro- highly

qualified immigration uh and Achieve

basically everything everybody's asking

for I know that sounds crazy but I

actually don't think it's that hard to

fix this to where you could hire non

entitled hardworking people who are in

the top

.01% uh who you know it doesn't matter

really what the color of their skin is

or their race or whatever if they've got

the talent they you know they can

compete and basically what we should be

doing is just giving Americans the best

leg up so like I don't think Tucker

Carlson is wrong when he says that our

students in America have been robbed you

like because you know when people

graduate school they have to compete

with potentially lower waged

h-1bs but In fairness is it the H1B

robbing them or the the schools just not

make us as competitive as we should have

been well honestly it's probably a

combination of both and that's why I

think you got to solve both ends anyway

uh that's my take I just haven't heard

anybody else talk about like how broken

education is in America so hopefully we

can get a little bit more more of that

sort of discussion going anyway I got to

hang out with the kids which I'm excited

to because we've got a big weekend you

ready buddy what are we doing this

weekend fin this uh yes bring me your

glass oh rinse your glass in the

bathroom if you don't mind Max you can

have some Topo Chico as well rinse your

glass what's up Max rinse your glass in

the bathroom and then I'll pour you some

Topo Chico okay I want too Chico okay

how was your wine good yeah you had it

all yeah yeah I give him a cup full of

grapes and call it

wine all right we'll see yall thanks

folks bye