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So, I've decided to just lean into the
whole orange thing and I'll make sure
not to shave and then just keep running
so I become more and more orange on a
daily basis. I hope you enjoy the
transformation over the summer and maybe
by the end of the summer I'll actually
be a full-time bull. That said, this
morning in the alpha report, we
speculated that market calm would
continue mostly unlocking potential
all-time highs for some momentum names
like Cloud
Coreweave uh and Tempest. Although I was
wrong about Cubits potentially coming
back. Aqua was also on my list of four.
So 75% hit on those that might momentum
today. Uh and those that momentum
momentum hard. But while I was looking
at potential momentum movers, I was also
looking at fundamentals because I like
to look at those things separately, but
sometimes there's overlap. And so while
I was looking at Coreeave, I went down a
little bit of an Nvidia and AMD rabbit
hole. and it led me to consider my
fundamental bare thesis regarding
something that seems relatively
unrelated. But in this video, you're
going to see how there could potentially
be a very very clear link. See, uh, one
of the reasons I've been a little bit of
a poopy dupy bear, uh, is because since
about the summer of last year, we've,
uh, seen a a dramatic acceleration in
the already accelerating path of the 27w
week unemployed figure. This is old
news. We're not going to spend a lot of
time on this. I I respect your time, so
we're going to keep it fast. Okay. Basic
bottom line is if you look throughout
history, the darn thing basically never
goes up unless there's a recession. See
up recession? This time it started
during a recession. Sometimes it starts
at the end of a recession. Sometimes it
even goes up after the recession or it
peaks after the recession. It sort of
starts in the second half of a recession
leading a lot of people to say, "Well,
we're already in a recession and so this
will all get graded in like a really
long recession. Uh, and the true peak of
this unemployed period, long-term
unemployed period will come in the next
recession. Sort of like this right here,
right? this 2019 rise and then oh it's
COVID or over here you get a little bit
of a rise in 2017 or sorry 2007 and boom
oh it's the 2008 financial crisis right
it's some form of crisis catalyst that
ends up leading to some layoffs and this
is typically true with the exception of
very brief moments in time where you get
these little mountains like 1995 over
here you got a little bit of brief
nothing like this uptrend we have over
here or in 74 or 63 okay big deal so
basically historically It would make
sense if we went back and maybe painted
honestly 22 on as some sort of longer
extended rolling recession culminated by
some massive shock at the end. But is
there a potential that this time is
different? Understanding that the phrase
this time is different is usually
associated with no. Uh that said, is
there a potential that this time could
be different and there is a different
explanation for why long-term
unemployment would rise on on on sort of
a structural basis. And the answer to
this is yes, there there is another
reason for this. You this morning I was
on a walk with Lauren and we were
discussing how it's very likely that
when Jack and Max, my seven and
nineyear-old, enter the labor force,
they're not going to be able to enter
the labor force uh and and sort of work
their way up anymore inside of any role
that could really be replaced by
artificial intelligence. Now, that will
be possible likely for a very long
period of time because I think general
purpose robotics doing general purpose
service jobs, it's going to take an
extremely long period of time, but think
about it. You need people to bring your
food to you. I mean, I know robots can
do this, but generally like the food
service at a table at the side of a
busy, you know, street where you've got
a restaurant, somebody to pull your
waverunner out for you, a lifeguard, uh,
you know, lifeguard augmented with AI.
Now, there's an idea. Who's got an app
for that? you know, Palanteer is gonna
beat that one. Uh, but the point is, uh,
construction jobs, right? Anything
anything physical is probably the last
frontier where things really get, uh,
innovated away. Uh, but what we thought
is what you'd probably end up seeing,
and we've talked about this on the
channel as well over the last few years,
is really a rise in the long-term rate
of unemployed because as people lose
their jobs, they just can't get jobs
again because they're being replaced by
artificial intelligence. Uh, and and
then those replacement jobs just aren't
available at other companies because
other companies are like, "Well, yeah, I
don't I don't need your skill. You've
already been replaced." And this is
where we see these articles like here's
one. IBM slashes around 8,000 jobs
primarily from its HR division thanks to
artificial intelligence. You know, this
is just a recent piece here, but we get
posts like this on almost a daily basis.
Uh, I mean, when I got back, I even saw
a, you know, a cover of, um, an Atlantic
story, and I know people like bagging on
the mainstream media, and that's fine,
but, uh, you know, AI is breaking
entrylevel jobs that Gen Z workers need
to launch their careers, LinkedIn
executive warrants. Yeah, fair. Because
that's sort of where you sort of gain
your experience and then you could go on
and actually be an executive somewhere
else. Like somebody doesn't get a job as
a CEO off the street with no experience,
but if they've had previous executive
level seuite experience, it's a lot
easier for them to get in. Well, how do
you get that first set of experience?
Well, often you work your way up at a
company. But if those opportunities get
replaced by AI, somehow you have to
either know somebody to get in or you
got to figure something else out or you
know, and while you're trying to figure
something else out, where does, you
know, where do you end up? Well, you end
up potentially in this figure right
here, this longerterm unemployed figure.
So, is it possible that this chart has
actually just been rising since the
advent of frankly GPT? Uh, and the
answer is yes. In fact, if you pin this
over here, it represents uh roughly the
beginning of 2023 when we started seeing
the longerterm trend of unemployment
rise. Now, this is actually really
interesting for uh for the bears out
there, uh you know, speaking also to
myself uh when it comes to this
unemployment chart because I I see it as
as a warning this chart. It's this is
not good. Historically, this is a very
bad chart. But again, could this time be
different uh this data point? Well, yes,
because it is possible and this is kind
of weird, but it's definitely possible.
It is possible that growth is being
driven uh by not just artificial
intelligence but by the wealthier cohort
of spenders or corporations. So wealthy
companies think you know Fortune 500,
MAG7 whatever uh wealthier sort of 1%
individuals they spend more and let's
say their contribution to GDP is
positive 2%. And poorer individuals uh
are spending you know on net 1% less
towards GDP. Well, so now let's say if
GDP is going to be 2%. But you get a 2%
boost from all the rich spending and
then a minus 1% drag, you're still at
3%. Or, you know, you could also make
the argument that maybe we're only at
1%. Minus one because of the poor
spending in the toilet and delinquencies
rising and pain at poor levels, but then
the wealthier cohort adding two back in
and oh wow, you're at 2.2% which is
exactly where the Atlanta Fed real GDP
estimate is now. So really AI is kind of
the perfect boogeyman explanation for
this. So in other words, the rise in the
longer term unemployed chart may be a
symptom of growth rather than weakness,
which would be the exact opposite of
what has traditionally been
true. Crazy. Something that would
otherwise be an indicator of problems
could actually just be a symptom of the
growth that we're seeing in our economy.
scary for those who are losing their
jobs, scary for bears relying on this
indicator, but also kind of good for
America broadly. Anyway, speaking of
America broadly, then there's also the
question of how much damage tariffs are
doing. Uh there is uh this talk right
now that if you analyze how much tariff
revenue we are making, we are making
about $255 billion in tariff revenue.
The question though is how much more how
much greater is that from normal
and what kind of damage is that going to
cause to the economy? Well, I'm about to
give you some examples of exactly what
kind of damage that could cause. But
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scope. Look, previously we collected
about $85 billion from tariffs. Now,
we're collecting on an annual runway 200
run rate $255 billion. That could
obviously go down if trade shrinks
because of that. But let's just say it
doesn't and we collect 174 million a
billion dollars more in tariffs uh in
tax revenue every single year. Now let's
say the damage of that $170 billion in
tariffs is twice as impactful. So we are
hurting our economy by $340 billion.
Okay, that's about 1% of GDP. So once
again, if we're growing at 3% and we
damage our economy with 1% tariffs, then
we're at 2%.
or if we're at 22, which is where the
Atlanta Fed thinks we are now, then
we're at one two. Big deal. Still
positive. Again, potentially because of
the AI factors, but also the fact that,
you know, tariffs just aren't that big
of a deal at 10 to 18% or whatever. So,
we'll see where they sit now. As long as
they don't get substantially worse,
could actually be quite solvable and and
investable, maybe. Which that then begs
the question of all right then, are
Nvidia and AMD a screaming deal right
now? And could one of these double or
potentially both of them? And that's
actually an important segment in what
we've got to talk about here because
yes, while I'm a big fan of diversifying
away from artificial intelligence, if
you want to invest in artificial
intelligence, these might be some
opportunities. So, we'll talk about the
numbers on these. And when I talk about
diversifying away from AI, you got to
think what kind of jobs are still going
to maintain. Well, we talked about this
physical uh labor style service jobs at
least until robots take over the world.
And I also think real estate and
development, fixing up a fixer upper,
you know, we find it, we use AI to to
find deals, but like actually fixing it
up, hiring people, contractors,
coordinating work, and then of course
actually developing properties from
scratch. All of these things matter.
They're things that we have to work
with. So this leaves me with an analysis
on Nvidia and AMD to consider. So Nvidia
and AMD uh recently have been selling
for in my opinion below where they they
should be selling for. There are
probably some reasons for that. I think
there is fear in Wall Street that their
growth rates are going to be revised
down and that the stocks are already
discounting uh a lot of the value of
these revisions down uh either because
of uh tariffs or China or you know a
slowdown in AI or whatever. But what we
really have to understand when it comes
to these companies is where they're
valued now uh for options purposes.
Their volatility is super low right now.
But when it comes to their valuations, I
like to use a PEG ratio based analysis.
Now, some people use this in a very
different way. So, I'm going to explain
the way I do it versus what other people
do. Other people will say, "Well, Kevin,
Nvidia has a PEG ratio of under one
right now, which suggests it's a
screaming buy." Okay, but does it? Well,
let's analyze it. Well, if you take
Nvidia's price, 135 bucks, divide their
earnings per share for January 2026 into
it. I don't like using the trailing 12
months. Divide that in, what do you get?
30.9. Okay. What is their next four
years of growth expected to be? 15.9.
So, PE ratio 30.9 divided by 15.9, what
do you get? 1.94. That's the PEG ratio
that I think Nvidia sits at now. Now, I
personally think their growth rate will
be closer to maybe 12 or 10% over the
next four years, but that's fine. If you
compare them obviously to the growth
rate that's already happened in the
past, which Wall Street doesn't care
about, then yes, you will get a PEG
ratio under one. So, I always like to
use a consistent PEG ratio, look at the
end of the year's earnings per share
ahead of us, and then four years of
growth thereafter. That's how I get my
PEG ratio. So, in my opinion, for a
service business at a 26-9, sort of a
justifiable PEG ratio, Nvidia could be
$185 company and AMD could be a 254
uh well, sorry, let me make sure I said
that correctly. Nvidia could be a
$185 stock. Okay, now talking about the
market cap, what the stock price could
be $185 and AMD could be $254 because
their PEG ratio is only 1.21. And I
think both of them belong somewhere
around 2.6.
69 because that's generally where I
price software companies. And when I do
my PEG ratios like this, I'm able to
consistently compare across different
industries uh and various different
companies. For example, when I look at
Tesla, I think that Tesla's a little bit
pricey right now. Mostly because if I
look at Tesla, first of all, they're a
manufacturer. Like they actually
manufacture their own products, whereas
Nvidia and AMD do not. you know AMD for
example doubling down on uh UA link in
their consortium partnership with Dell
and others to compete against Nvidia's
Infinavan uh these are not products
they're manufacturing they're designing
them into the uh you know infrastructure
for these companies uh for the data
centers mostly and there's all this fear
about walled gardens like oh Nvidia is
going to wald garden us like Apple so we
need to diversify our technology
whatever it just bodess well for AMD but
I think the whole industry grows And
people are going to take what they can
get for a meaningful time in the future
until AI hits a wall. But look at Tesla
for example. It closed today at 360.
It's actually impressive that it broke
out over the U 347 level. And uh the
earnings per share that are projected
for Tesla, they're actually pretty darn
good right now because earnings are
expected to be so bad this year at just
193. So take 360 divided by 1.93 for the
year. Tesla's technically right now
trading for a 186 PE ratio, but Wall
Street broadly thinks they're going to
return to substantial growth next year
at 50% growth, 32% growth, 33% growth,
and 49.7% growth. These are some of the
highest expectations that I've seen for
Tesla's growth in a very long period of
time. This has always averaged like 28
to 32%. And now if I divide this by
four, I get 41% growth. That's a lot.
The problem is I have to now divide it
by the price, right? The PE ratio. So
186 divided by 41. This sucker's trading
for a 4.5 peg. That's insane. So if I do
41 times growth and I take uh 193 on EPS
and I do a 167 peg ratio, you know, we
should be
at about a buck 32. So $132 per share on
a simply auto manufacturer and energy
business EPS POV including EPS growth
rates in the future. So already
including the next four years of growth
rates assumed by Wall Street in earnings
per share which does discount some
earnings for Optimus, robo taxis,
semi-truckss and all of that. So in
other words, it's extremely expensive.
And when I compare the three companies,
this is a tool that I like doing. Now,
don't get me wrong, I still like Tesla.
I still like my Cybert truck. Uh, you
know, I I just think the valuation is a
little kooky right now and full of a
little bit of opium, which is great
because it makes people a lot of money.
And I think it's a great opportunity to
sort of diversify or set some trailing
stops, right? Like milk it while it's
going up and then stop out 20% on your
way out so you build up some cash. Like
what's wrong with that? So anyway, uh
that said, Nvidia obviously has earnings
tomorrow. Uh oh, what bottom line of
that is that sort of lets me adjust what
I think things are worth. But if we look
at Nvidia's earnings tomorrow, you know,
we're expecting earnings per share of 87
uh uh per share. So call it 88 cents of
adjusted EPS. Uh non-adjusted, we're at
about 79 cents, revenue 43.3 billion,
net income of 21.6. Nvidia typically
beats. I mean, we're talking seven out
of eight to eight out of eight times. So
basically always they always beat. It's
just a matter of how much and then what
they say about Blackwell.
I mean, honestly, Nvidia's been on a
little bit of a of a downtrend for a
while. Maybe these earnings will finally
be the earnings that let them break out.
And if they break out, they'll break out
to 164. Take a look at this. Look at
this ceiling you've got right here.
Reject basically, you know, this
downtrend kind of continues. You know,
you could draw this probably a little
bit more cleanly, but whatever. You get
the idea here. This is sort of the
channel. That's what I drew is the sort
of channel that you're in right here.
And I think you could break out of this
and get to 164, which is uh that's a fib
extension.
So yeah, that could be very interesting
for Nvidia. 164 would could be a
reasonable target afterwards, you know,
unless they have some kind of like
bearish topic regarding growth or
whatever. But I don't know. I I guess
maybe I'm just not seeing that
bearishness. I do see competition from,
you know, AMD. Uh and you could directly
see that competition because some data
centers are now concerned that Nvidia is
going to sort of walled garden them in
like Apple
does. That's actually led to a rise in
AMD's UA link. Uh this is a consortium
by like Dell and AMD and others to
basically compete with Nvidia's
Infiniband. Basically wiring your data
center with Nvidia components and
switches and everything. So like
everything is married together and
really happy and it's all the same
product, the same company. It's all
unified. Uh kind of like ubiquity. Uh
well, you know, there have been some
walled garden concerns and that's what's
given AMD a little bit of a rise here.
And so, you know, AMD's been ramping up
their MI 350. Uh you know, that's going
to be especially important here now
because of all the Chinese comp, you
know, complaints about, oh no, we're not
going to be able to sell some of our
Chinese products to China. Yeah,
whatever. Uh like they'll be fine. So, I
think right now the only thing that's
kind of keeping AMD and Nvidia stock
growth down, like how much they're
returning year to date, is fear that
their growth will be revised down. I
think the stocks are kind of already
discounting that off the pegs because
like I don't think I said it, but you
know, at 169 justifiable for Nvidia,
you're at like 185 current Wall Street
estimates, right? Mine a little lower.
Uh$ 269 for AMD, you can be a
$254 company or stock, right? So like
that's a
double. That's nice. So it it's looking
good. You know, I think some of the
China tariff fears have already been
priced in. So basically, you have these
two massive price or cash cows. The
fears about discounted growth and
tariffs, I think, are kind of already
built into the stock. And I mean, it
would really have to take hitting like a
wall or something to get to get, in my
opinion, these these stocks to just
perform really poorly over the next few
years. But it's possible that they do,
you know, should that wall hit. I I mean
I guess we'll get a little bit more
color tomorrow, but I mean I'm wearing
my Jensen jacket because Jensen is not
the guy who's going to tell you bad
news. That said, that doesn't mean the
stock's going to go up. Last time Nvidia
had earnings
was February 26th and the stock went
straight down right after that. Now, in
fairness, that was also in the leadup to
Liberation Day. So, a lot of things went
down over that period of time. We were
in a little bit of a bearish downtrend.
So, who knows? Anyway, that's what I got
for y'all today. Thanks so much for
watching. We'll see you in the next one.
Goodbye.
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