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So, I've decided to just lean into the

0:01

whole orange thing and I'll make sure

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not to shave and then just keep running

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so I become more and more orange on a

0:08

daily basis. I hope you enjoy the

0:11

transformation over the summer and maybe

0:13

by the end of the summer I'll actually

0:15

be a full-time bull. That said, this

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morning in the alpha report, we

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speculated that market calm would

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continue mostly unlocking potential

0:25

all-time highs for some momentum names

0:28

like Cloud

0:29

Coreweave uh and Tempest. Although I was

0:32

wrong about Cubits potentially coming

0:34

back. Aqua was also on my list of four.

0:36

So 75% hit on those that might momentum

0:39

today. Uh and those that momentum

0:41

momentum hard. But while I was looking

0:44

at potential momentum movers, I was also

0:46

looking at fundamentals because I like

0:48

to look at those things separately, but

0:50

sometimes there's overlap. And so while

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I was looking at Coreeave, I went down a

0:54

little bit of an Nvidia and AMD rabbit

0:56

hole. and it led me to consider my

0:58

fundamental bare thesis regarding

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something that seems relatively

1:02

unrelated. But in this video, you're

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going to see how there could potentially

1:06

be a very very clear link. See, uh, one

1:12

of the reasons I've been a little bit of

1:13

a poopy dupy bear, uh, is because since

1:15

about the summer of last year, we've,

1:19

uh, seen a a dramatic acceleration in

1:22

the already accelerating path of the 27w

1:26

week unemployed figure. This is old

1:28

news. We're not going to spend a lot of

1:29

time on this. I I respect your time, so

1:31

we're going to keep it fast. Okay. Basic

1:32

bottom line is if you look throughout

1:34

history, the darn thing basically never

1:36

goes up unless there's a recession. See

1:38

up recession? This time it started

1:40

during a recession. Sometimes it starts

1:42

at the end of a recession. Sometimes it

1:44

even goes up after the recession or it

1:46

peaks after the recession. It sort of

1:48

starts in the second half of a recession

1:50

leading a lot of people to say, "Well,

1:52

we're already in a recession and so this

1:54

will all get graded in like a really

1:56

long recession. Uh, and the true peak of

2:00

this unemployed period, long-term

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unemployed period will come in the next

2:04

recession. Sort of like this right here,

2:06

right? this 2019 rise and then oh it's

2:09

COVID or over here you get a little bit

2:10

of a rise in 2017 or sorry 2007 and boom

2:14

oh it's the 2008 financial crisis right

2:16

it's some form of crisis catalyst that

2:19

ends up leading to some layoffs and this

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is typically true with the exception of

2:23

very brief moments in time where you get

2:25

these little mountains like 1995 over

2:27

here you got a little bit of brief

2:28

nothing like this uptrend we have over

2:30

here or in 74 or 63 okay big deal so

2:34

basically historically It would make

2:37

sense if we went back and maybe painted

2:39

honestly 22 on as some sort of longer

2:43

extended rolling recession culminated by

2:46

some massive shock at the end. But is

2:49

there a potential that this time is

2:51

different? Understanding that the phrase

2:53

this time is different is usually

2:54

associated with no. Uh that said, is

2:58

there a potential that this time could

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be different and there is a different

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explanation for why long-term

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unemployment would rise on on on sort of

3:08

a structural basis. And the answer to

3:10

this is yes, there there is another

3:12

reason for this. You this morning I was

3:13

on a walk with Lauren and we were

3:16

discussing how it's very likely that

3:19

when Jack and Max, my seven and

3:22

nineyear-old, enter the labor force,

3:25

they're not going to be able to enter

3:27

the labor force uh and and sort of work

3:29

their way up anymore inside of any role

3:33

that could really be replaced by

3:35

artificial intelligence. Now, that will

3:38

be possible likely for a very long

3:40

period of time because I think general

3:42

purpose robotics doing general purpose

3:44

service jobs, it's going to take an

3:45

extremely long period of time, but think

3:47

about it. You need people to bring your

3:50

food to you. I mean, I know robots can

3:51

do this, but generally like the food

3:53

service at a table at the side of a

3:55

busy, you know, street where you've got

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a restaurant, somebody to pull your

3:58

waverunner out for you, a lifeguard, uh,

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you know, lifeguard augmented with AI.

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Now, there's an idea. Who's got an app

4:04

for that? you know, Palanteer is gonna

4:06

beat that one. Uh, but the point is, uh,

4:09

construction jobs, right? Anything

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anything physical is probably the last

4:13

frontier where things really get, uh,

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innovated away. Uh, but what we thought

4:17

is what you'd probably end up seeing,

4:20

and we've talked about this on the

4:21

channel as well over the last few years,

4:23

is really a rise in the long-term rate

4:25

of unemployed because as people lose

4:27

their jobs, they just can't get jobs

4:29

again because they're being replaced by

4:31

artificial intelligence. Uh, and and

4:33

then those replacement jobs just aren't

4:35

available at other companies because

4:36

other companies are like, "Well, yeah, I

4:38

don't I don't need your skill. You've

4:39

already been replaced." And this is

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where we see these articles like here's

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one. IBM slashes around 8,000 jobs

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primarily from its HR division thanks to

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artificial intelligence. You know, this

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is just a recent piece here, but we get

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posts like this on almost a daily basis.

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Uh, I mean, when I got back, I even saw

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a, you know, a cover of, um, an Atlantic

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story, and I know people like bagging on

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the mainstream media, and that's fine,

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but, uh, you know, AI is breaking

5:06

entrylevel jobs that Gen Z workers need

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to launch their careers, LinkedIn

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executive warrants. Yeah, fair. Because

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that's sort of where you sort of gain

5:16

your experience and then you could go on

5:18

and actually be an executive somewhere

5:20

else. Like somebody doesn't get a job as

5:21

a CEO off the street with no experience,

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but if they've had previous executive

5:26

level seuite experience, it's a lot

5:28

easier for them to get in. Well, how do

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you get that first set of experience?

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Well, often you work your way up at a

5:34

company. But if those opportunities get

5:36

replaced by AI, somehow you have to

5:38

either know somebody to get in or you

5:41

got to figure something else out or you

5:43

know, and while you're trying to figure

5:45

something else out, where does, you

5:46

know, where do you end up? Well, you end

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up potentially in this figure right

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here, this longerterm unemployed figure.

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So, is it possible that this chart has

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actually just been rising since the

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advent of frankly GPT? Uh, and the

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answer is yes. In fact, if you pin this

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over here, it represents uh roughly the

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beginning of 2023 when we started seeing

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the longerterm trend of unemployment

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rise. Now, this is actually really

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interesting for uh for the bears out

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there, uh you know, speaking also to

6:15

myself uh when it comes to this

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unemployment chart because I I see it as

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as a warning this chart. It's this is

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not good. Historically, this is a very

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bad chart. But again, could this time be

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different uh this data point? Well, yes,

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because it is possible and this is kind

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of weird, but it's definitely possible.

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It is possible that growth is being

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driven uh by not just artificial

6:38

intelligence but by the wealthier cohort

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of spenders or corporations. So wealthy

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companies think you know Fortune 500,

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MAG7 whatever uh wealthier sort of 1%

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individuals they spend more and let's

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say their contribution to GDP is

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positive 2%. And poorer individuals uh

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are spending you know on net 1% less

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towards GDP. Well, so now let's say if

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GDP is going to be 2%. But you get a 2%

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boost from all the rich spending and

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then a minus 1% drag, you're still at

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3%. Or, you know, you could also make

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the argument that maybe we're only at

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1%. Minus one because of the poor

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spending in the toilet and delinquencies

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rising and pain at poor levels, but then

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the wealthier cohort adding two back in

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and oh wow, you're at 2.2% which is

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exactly where the Atlanta Fed real GDP

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estimate is now. So really AI is kind of

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the perfect boogeyman explanation for

7:35

this. So in other words, the rise in the

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longer term unemployed chart may be a

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symptom of growth rather than weakness,

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which would be the exact opposite of

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what has traditionally been

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true. Crazy. Something that would

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otherwise be an indicator of problems

7:53

could actually just be a symptom of the

7:56

growth that we're seeing in our economy.

7:58

scary for those who are losing their

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jobs, scary for bears relying on this

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indicator, but also kind of good for

8:08

America broadly. Anyway, speaking of

8:11

America broadly, then there's also the

8:13

question of how much damage tariffs are

8:14

doing. Uh there is uh this talk right

8:17

now that if you analyze how much tariff

8:19

revenue we are making, we are making

8:22

about $255 billion in tariff revenue.

8:25

The question though is how much more how

8:28

much greater is that from normal

8:30

and what kind of damage is that going to

8:33

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11:02

scope. Look, previously we collected

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about $85 billion from tariffs. Now,

11:07

we're collecting on an annual runway 200

11:09

run rate $255 billion. That could

11:12

obviously go down if trade shrinks

11:13

because of that. But let's just say it

11:15

doesn't and we collect 174 million a

11:18

billion dollars more in tariffs uh in

11:20

tax revenue every single year. Now let's

11:22

say the damage of that $170 billion in

11:25

tariffs is twice as impactful. So we are

11:28

hurting our economy by $340 billion.

11:31

Okay, that's about 1% of GDP. So once

11:34

again, if we're growing at 3% and we

11:36

damage our economy with 1% tariffs, then

11:38

we're at 2%.

11:40

or if we're at 22, which is where the

11:42

Atlanta Fed thinks we are now, then

11:44

we're at one two. Big deal. Still

11:46

positive. Again, potentially because of

11:48

the AI factors, but also the fact that,

11:50

you know, tariffs just aren't that big

11:53

of a deal at 10 to 18% or whatever. So,

11:56

we'll see where they sit now. As long as

11:58

they don't get substantially worse,

12:00

could actually be quite solvable and and

12:03

investable, maybe. Which that then begs

12:07

the question of all right then, are

12:09

Nvidia and AMD a screaming deal right

12:12

now? And could one of these double or

12:14

potentially both of them? And that's

12:16

actually an important segment in what

12:18

we've got to talk about here because

12:19

yes, while I'm a big fan of diversifying

12:22

away from artificial intelligence, if

12:25

you want to invest in artificial

12:26

intelligence, these might be some

12:28

opportunities. So, we'll talk about the

12:30

numbers on these. And when I talk about

12:31

diversifying away from AI, you got to

12:33

think what kind of jobs are still going

12:35

to maintain. Well, we talked about this

12:37

physical uh labor style service jobs at

12:40

least until robots take over the world.

12:41

And I also think real estate and

12:43

development, fixing up a fixer upper,

12:45

you know, we find it, we use AI to to

12:47

find deals, but like actually fixing it

12:49

up, hiring people, contractors,

12:51

coordinating work, and then of course

12:53

actually developing properties from

12:55

scratch. All of these things matter.

12:57

They're things that we have to work

12:58

with. So this leaves me with an analysis

13:00

on Nvidia and AMD to consider. So Nvidia

13:03

and AMD uh recently have been selling

13:06

for in my opinion below where they they

13:09

should be selling for. There are

13:10

probably some reasons for that. I think

13:12

there is fear in Wall Street that their

13:15

growth rates are going to be revised

13:16

down and that the stocks are already

13:18

discounting uh a lot of the value of

13:20

these revisions down uh either because

13:23

of uh tariffs or China or you know a

13:27

slowdown in AI or whatever. But what we

13:29

really have to understand when it comes

13:31

to these companies is where they're

13:32

valued now uh for options purposes.

13:35

Their volatility is super low right now.

13:37

But when it comes to their valuations, I

13:39

like to use a PEG ratio based analysis.

13:42

Now, some people use this in a very

13:44

different way. So, I'm going to explain

13:45

the way I do it versus what other people

13:47

do. Other people will say, "Well, Kevin,

13:50

Nvidia has a PEG ratio of under one

13:52

right now, which suggests it's a

13:54

screaming buy." Okay, but does it? Well,

13:57

let's analyze it. Well, if you take

13:59

Nvidia's price, 135 bucks, divide their

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earnings per share for January 2026 into

14:04

it. I don't like using the trailing 12

14:05

months. Divide that in, what do you get?

14:08

30.9. Okay. What is their next four

14:10

years of growth expected to be? 15.9.

14:14

So, PE ratio 30.9 divided by 15.9, what

14:18

do you get? 1.94. That's the PEG ratio

14:21

that I think Nvidia sits at now. Now, I

14:23

personally think their growth rate will

14:24

be closer to maybe 12 or 10% over the

14:26

next four years, but that's fine. If you

14:29

compare them obviously to the growth

14:30

rate that's already happened in the

14:32

past, which Wall Street doesn't care

14:34

about, then yes, you will get a PEG

14:35

ratio under one. So, I always like to

14:37

use a consistent PEG ratio, look at the

14:39

end of the year's earnings per share

14:40

ahead of us, and then four years of

14:42

growth thereafter. That's how I get my

14:44

PEG ratio. So, in my opinion, for a

14:46

service business at a 26-9, sort of a

14:48

justifiable PEG ratio, Nvidia could be

14:51

$185 company and AMD could be a 254

14:56

uh well, sorry, let me make sure I said

14:58

that correctly. Nvidia could be a

15:00

$185 stock. Okay, now talking about the

15:03

market cap, what the stock price could

15:05

be $185 and AMD could be $254 because

15:09

their PEG ratio is only 1.21. And I

15:12

think both of them belong somewhere

15:13

around 2.6.

15:14

69 because that's generally where I

15:17

price software companies. And when I do

15:19

my PEG ratios like this, I'm able to

15:21

consistently compare across different

15:23

industries uh and various different

15:25

companies. For example, when I look at

15:26

Tesla, I think that Tesla's a little bit

15:29

pricey right now. Mostly because if I

15:31

look at Tesla, first of all, they're a

15:33

manufacturer. Like they actually

15:35

manufacture their own products, whereas

15:37

Nvidia and AMD do not. you know AMD for

15:41

example doubling down on uh UA link in

15:44

their consortium partnership with Dell

15:46

and others to compete against Nvidia's

15:48

Infinavan uh these are not products

15:51

they're manufacturing they're designing

15:53

them into the uh you know infrastructure

15:56

for these companies uh for the data

15:58

centers mostly and there's all this fear

16:00

about walled gardens like oh Nvidia is

16:02

going to wald garden us like Apple so we

16:05

need to diversify our technology

16:06

whatever it just bodess well for AMD but

16:08

I think the whole industry grows And

16:10

people are going to take what they can

16:11

get for a meaningful time in the future

16:13

until AI hits a wall. But look at Tesla

16:16

for example. It closed today at 360.

16:18

It's actually impressive that it broke

16:19

out over the U 347 level. And uh the

16:23

earnings per share that are projected

16:25

for Tesla, they're actually pretty darn

16:28

good right now because earnings are

16:31

expected to be so bad this year at just

16:35

193. So take 360 divided by 1.93 for the

16:39

year. Tesla's technically right now

16:41

trading for a 186 PE ratio, but Wall

16:45

Street broadly thinks they're going to

16:47

return to substantial growth next year

16:49

at 50% growth, 32% growth, 33% growth,

16:52

and 49.7% growth. These are some of the

16:55

highest expectations that I've seen for

16:57

Tesla's growth in a very long period of

17:00

time. This has always averaged like 28

17:03

to 32%. And now if I divide this by

17:06

four, I get 41% growth. That's a lot.

17:11

The problem is I have to now divide it

17:13

by the price, right? The PE ratio. So

17:15

186 divided by 41. This sucker's trading

17:18

for a 4.5 peg. That's insane. So if I do

17:21

41 times growth and I take uh 193 on EPS

17:27

and I do a 167 peg ratio, you know, we

17:31

should be

17:34

at about a buck 32. So $132 per share on

17:37

a simply auto manufacturer and energy

17:40

business EPS POV including EPS growth

17:44

rates in the future. So already

17:46

including the next four years of growth

17:47

rates assumed by Wall Street in earnings

17:50

per share which does discount some

17:52

earnings for Optimus, robo taxis,

17:55

semi-truckss and all of that. So in

17:57

other words, it's extremely expensive.

18:00

And when I compare the three companies,

18:02

this is a tool that I like doing. Now,

18:03

don't get me wrong, I still like Tesla.

18:06

I still like my Cybert truck. Uh, you

18:08

know, I I just think the valuation is a

18:10

little kooky right now and full of a

18:11

little bit of opium, which is great

18:12

because it makes people a lot of money.

18:13

And I think it's a great opportunity to

18:15

sort of diversify or set some trailing

18:17

stops, right? Like milk it while it's

18:18

going up and then stop out 20% on your

18:21

way out so you build up some cash. Like

18:23

what's wrong with that? So anyway, uh

18:25

that said, Nvidia obviously has earnings

18:28

tomorrow. Uh oh, what bottom line of

18:30

that is that sort of lets me adjust what

18:32

I think things are worth. But if we look

18:34

at Nvidia's earnings tomorrow, you know,

18:35

we're expecting earnings per share of 87

18:38

uh uh per share. So call it 88 cents of

18:40

adjusted EPS. Uh non-adjusted, we're at

18:43

about 79 cents, revenue 43.3 billion,

18:46

net income of 21.6. Nvidia typically

18:48

beats. I mean, we're talking seven out

18:50

of eight to eight out of eight times. So

18:52

basically always they always beat. It's

18:54

just a matter of how much and then what

18:55

they say about Blackwell.

18:58

I mean, honestly, Nvidia's been on a

19:01

little bit of a of a downtrend for a

19:04

while. Maybe these earnings will finally

19:07

be the earnings that let them break out.

19:10

And if they break out, they'll break out

19:11

to 164. Take a look at this. Look at

19:14

this ceiling you've got right here.

19:16

Reject basically, you know, this

19:19

downtrend kind of continues. You know,

19:20

you could draw this probably a little

19:21

bit more cleanly, but whatever. You get

19:24

the idea here. This is sort of the

19:25

channel. That's what I drew is the sort

19:27

of channel that you're in right here.

19:29

And I think you could break out of this

19:31

and get to 164, which is uh that's a fib

19:35

extension.

19:37

So yeah, that could be very interesting

19:40

for Nvidia. 164 would could be a

19:42

reasonable target afterwards, you know,

19:44

unless they have some kind of like

19:45

bearish topic regarding growth or

19:47

whatever. But I don't know. I I guess

19:49

maybe I'm just not seeing that

19:51

bearishness. I do see competition from,

19:53

you know, AMD. Uh and you could directly

19:55

see that competition because some data

19:58

centers are now concerned that Nvidia is

19:59

going to sort of walled garden them in

20:01

like Apple

20:03

does. That's actually led to a rise in

20:06

AMD's UA link. Uh this is a consortium

20:10

by like Dell and AMD and others to

20:12

basically compete with Nvidia's

20:14

Infiniband. Basically wiring your data

20:16

center with Nvidia components and

20:19

switches and everything. So like

20:20

everything is married together and

20:22

really happy and it's all the same

20:23

product, the same company. It's all

20:25

unified. Uh kind of like ubiquity. Uh

20:29

well, you know, there have been some

20:30

walled garden concerns and that's what's

20:32

given AMD a little bit of a rise here.

20:34

And so, you know, AMD's been ramping up

20:36

their MI 350. Uh you know, that's going

20:39

to be especially important here now

20:40

because of all the Chinese comp, you

20:42

know, complaints about, oh no, we're not

20:44

going to be able to sell some of our

20:45

Chinese products to China. Yeah,

20:47

whatever. Uh like they'll be fine. So, I

20:50

think right now the only thing that's

20:52

kind of keeping AMD and Nvidia stock

20:54

growth down, like how much they're

20:55

returning year to date, is fear that

20:57

their growth will be revised down. I

20:59

think the stocks are kind of already

21:00

discounting that off the pegs because

21:02

like I don't think I said it, but you

21:04

know, at 169 justifiable for Nvidia,

21:07

you're at like 185 current Wall Street

21:10

estimates, right? Mine a little lower.

21:12

Uh$ 269 for AMD, you can be a

21:14

$254 company or stock, right? So like

21:17

that's a

21:18

double. That's nice. So it it's looking

21:21

good. You know, I think some of the

21:22

China tariff fears have already been

21:24

priced in. So basically, you have these

21:25

two massive price or cash cows. The

21:28

fears about discounted growth and

21:30

tariffs, I think, are kind of already

21:32

built into the stock. And I mean, it

21:35

would really have to take hitting like a

21:36

wall or something to get to get, in my

21:38

opinion, these these stocks to just

21:40

perform really poorly over the next few

21:42

years. But it's possible that they do,

21:45

you know, should that wall hit. I I mean

21:46

I guess we'll get a little bit more

21:47

color tomorrow, but I mean I'm wearing

21:49

my Jensen jacket because Jensen is not

21:51

the guy who's going to tell you bad

21:53

news. That said, that doesn't mean the

21:55

stock's going to go up. Last time Nvidia

21:57

had earnings

21:59

was February 26th and the stock went

22:04

straight down right after that. Now, in

22:05

fairness, that was also in the leadup to

22:07

Liberation Day. So, a lot of things went

22:09

down over that period of time. We were

22:11

in a little bit of a bearish downtrend.

22:13

So, who knows? Anyway, that's what I got

22:15

for y'all today. Thanks so much for

22:16

watching. We'll see you in the next one.

22:17

Goodbye.

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