The 2023 Big Short | The Home Builder Fraud.
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housing we've got a disaster reported on
Twitter and while we cannot yet
independently verify this it is a red
flag that has a logical basis
and it's very fascinating so here's an
individual called Jacob
at Raleigh fam
Jacob says the following I'm a new home
sales rep okay let me just explain that
really quick because a lot of people
might not understand what that means it
means you're a real estate agent who
stands at the open house for a home
builder and you try to sell new homes
okay so he's a real estate agent who's
trying to sell new homes
okay all right for a top five American
Builder new home sale reps are a small
community in other words they all talk
to each other
oh he literally says that we all talk to
each other uh Builders are inflating the
numbers uh oh wait a minute Builder
stocks and Builder earnings calls have
actually been very good they've been
bragging about how things are getting
better in December and January and
things are looking up and up hmm but
wait a minute Builders are inflating the
numbers keeping bad contracts and bad
loans on the books
to prevent showing cancellations
uh-oh so what do we have over here he
gives us a chart that shows how uh
cancellations for companies are up
substantially over double for our
Meritage Homes you've got Pulte Home
Group over here double DR Horton you've
got a double uh you've got cancellation
rates basically skyrocketing
and you also have a substantial decline
in net new orders this we've actually
seen in publicly available statistics as
well we know that cancellation rates
have skyrocketed and we know that net
new orders have fallen we already know
that so that's actually not a secret so
statistically we already know that some
of that data is happening but what's
really alarming is this idea that
Builders are potentially inflating the
numbers so what rationale does he give
for inflating the numbers and how could
we potentially deduce truth from that
well first of all uh what else does he
say he says here unfortunately it's
going to get bad okay well that's
anecdotal let's get to where some more
of the Insight is for example in the
past we would immediately cancel or not
even write a contract slash build if we
found you weren't qualified
over the last three months ninety
percent of what we are forced to write
are unqualified contracts because the
qualified buyers are gone
these unqualified buyers won't be able
to close so what we're seeing is all the
new home sales are worthless but we have
a gun to our head that if we don't hit
our quota of three to six homes sold a
month we will be laid off or terminated
so we have to write the contracts but
they won't close
the base prices are too high but we
can't drop the base price because the
backlog under contract won't appraise so
instead we are doing incentives but
incentives stopped working months ago so
Builders are stuck if we drop prices the
already bad contracts will be even more
bad
okay so let me explain this because this
is very tricky if you're not from the
real estate world and I'll try to
explain the potential impact of this
because it is concerning especially
since when you look at companies like
Lennar the darn stocks or I've actually
recovered substantially from their loans
or for from their lows last year in fact
here just go to Google really quick type
in Lennar stock and look at this sucker
over the last year it's up 11 a year ago
from a year ago you look at the last
five year chart the sucker had a dip in
a low in June but it's recovered 57 from
June how does that potentially make
sense when housing prices haven't even
really shown their year-over-year fall
yet maybe it's the perfect short
opportunity uh we'll be talking about
that a lot more by the way in our
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down below but here is how Housing Works
uh when it comes to new construction
builds so let's say you have a buyer who
comes in on uh today okay so today is
February 11th and they're like hey I
want to buy Lot number 152. so you're
gonna buy lot 152 and you're going to go
under contract for let's say five
hundred thousand dollars but in order to
be convinced to go under contract for
five hundred thousand dollars you're
like well I want twenty thousand dollars
of incentives now that'll buy you maybe
new flooring and it'll cost the Builder
seven thousand dollars to do the
flooring so the Builder actually props
up their margins by giving you this uh
twenty thousand dollar incentive because
they're conv they're giving you twenty
thousand dollars of apparent value which
is what you think you're getting but
you're really only getting seven
thousand dollars of value but that's how
builders make money they want you to buy
upgrades through the Builder that's
where they make a lot of money but
Builders are also making a lot of money
because guess what the lot they built
this property on they built number 152.
guess when that lot was probably
purchased okay and this this gets really
scary are you ready for this guess when
the lot was probably purchased for the
house number 152 that's selling today
2019 or 2020. guess what real estate
prices were in 2020 2019 and 2020 much
lower than they are today
which why is that really interesting
well it means that the Builder margins
are still today being propped up by low
lot sales from 2019 and 2020.
well lot sales in 2021 and 23 and 22 are
much more expensive specifically 2021
which is what we're going to see next
like the 2021 lot sales we'll actually
start seeing those come up in 23 and 24
here right the 2021 lot sales are going
to be extremely expensive relative to
what home prices are likely to be when
they actually start falling more in 23
and 24 and through the rest of really
this year because we're in 2023. so this
the lot prices are way higher now for
the homes that are coming up but the
homes that are selling today are still
selling with low lot prices so it
artificially makes the home builder
profits look high right now so the home
builder profits look high right now
because of a low base cost from low lot
values but when those higher lot values
come in you're going to have a big
oopsie dupsies and those higher lot
values will probably start coming in
later in 2023 three so dangerous for for
housing well for Builders it's going to
be higher lot values uh as uh you know
an input cost for Builders
at the end of 2023 plus right getting
rid of that cheaper previous slot
inventory that is going to be a drag on
the home builders towards the end of
2023 so keep that in mind okay now while
you keep that in mind let's go back to
what this guy on the Twitter thing said
basically about we'll use our example
here lot 152. what is a builder backlog
well when somebody says we have a
builder backlog that we want to make
sure can appraise what they're actually
talking about is under contract deals so
the loser who bought property uh let's
say 150 I don't know let's say 149 okay
so the loser who bought property 149 for
500 000 as well uh January let's say
28th their appraisal is in part going to
rely on the appraisal of the new sales
but it's also going to rely on the
losers who bought property you know like
130 in December it'll say December 30th
there we go December 30th all right so
if the person who bought a home in
December for five hundred thousand
dollars got I don't know ten thousand
dollars in flooring incentives and the
guy who bought the home in uh uh in in
January got uh you know fifteen thousand
dollars in flooring incentives and the
guy who's buying the home now is getting
twenty thousand dollars in incentives
what you're basically doing is you're
technically reducing the value of the
homes without actually reducing the
value of the homes so you're basically
giving people money to artificially keep
home values up in the new home builder
areas because you're you're giving
people incentives to reduce the actual
price of the property without reducing
the appraised value of the property see
when the appraiser goes in to appraise
lot 142 in this example that was sold in
January the appraiser is going to go hey
well what did things sell for in
December 500k sir well what are things
selling for now 500k sir and the
appraiser is like
sounds good to me I guess your appraisal
is five hundred thousand dollars this is
no skin off appraisals it's just the way
the system works that's what the banks
want the banks want the appraisals now
might there be some notes about
incentives sure do the banks really care
no so Landing could potentially be
propped up by artificial artificially
High appraisals because of incentives uh
and and they don't have to be monetary
incentives the Builder could have
already gone in and upgraded the homes
so in theory they don't have to give you
the 20 grand they could just go hey have
this home with fancier flooring and the
appraiser can't really adjust for that
very well because there are already new
homes you're already on a condition
level I think the new construction C1
it's hard to go C1 is is you know even
better than like uh new construction
might be C2 I'm not an appraiser but
basically there are these
classifications and it's hard to say
just because one house has slightly
better flooring that all of a sudden the
entire condition value of that house is
so much more and you have to make an
adjustment for it I'm really going to
skim past this really quick but I'm
basically telling you a home builder can
throw an extra 50 Grand into a house and
it's not going to make it so much
substantially different that the
appraiser is actually going to be able
to make any kind of difference on the
valuation for that generally when you
have valuations that are different
because of the condition it's because
somebody went through and spent you know
five hundred thousand dollars on a
remodel for a five million dollar home
versus somebody else who spent fifty
thousand dollars on a remodel on a five
million dollar home right then you can
get more condition adjustments for stuff
that's new like in other words what I'm
saying is for like the the 99 sent new
flooring to actually make a difference
compared to the seven dollar new
flooring everything in the home needs to
be built to a substantially better
degree for it to actually make a
difference in the appraisals and so the
point of saying that is that home
builders can artificially keep home
values High by just putting in slightly
better flooring and the appraiser is not
actually making a negative adjustment
for that in other words in two months
from now you could still sell a home for
500k and you could potentially put forty
thousand dollars worth of upgrades into
it and the appraiser is not making an
adjustment for it the bear is like well
it looks like we're still 500k that's
called dealing with your backlog that's
making sure your next homes that are
being sold aren't ruining your prior
appraisals that's what this individual
on Twitter is saying and the individual
here is making this argument that people
might not be able to qualify for these
homes but we're writing the contracts
anyway because we basically want to
inflate the numbers because we don't
want to lose our job
so the builders are like you guys need
to sell these homes do whatever you got
to do to sell the homes or else you're
fired and the sales reps are like dude
like nobody's coming in to buy these
homes even because we're giving them
incentives and this is where it becomes
concerning and the the sales reps are
like whatever we'll just write the
contract anyway and send it to the
Builder the Builder just cares about
getting contracts so the sales rep
writes the contract sends it to the
Builder the Builder's like okay got a
contract all right somebody's willing to
pay 500k great sounds great hey
appraiser by the way we got another
contract for 50k we're doing good when
the reality is if that person doesn't
close eventually the cards fall
eventually those deals contract fall
through and cancel and when those deals
fall through and cancel what happens
inventory goes up and that's the biggest
concern that you have for Real Estate is
an increase in inventory so increasing
inventory probably doesn't come from
resale homes because people have locked
in low interest rates right it probably
actually comes from new construction
home builders who are resistant to
large-scale price reductions in the face
of higher rates and what have rates been
doing recently rates have jumped they
came down a little bit in December and
January but they've jumped right back to
nearly uh we're we're on on the path
back to nearly the highs that we had in
October November uh not quite there yet
we are there on the two-year but
mortgage rates generally follow the
10-year treasury yield and the 10-year
treasury is sitting at 37. we went down
to like three three uh just a little bit
ago and we were trending down but now
we're trending up so with rates jumping
and this potential inventory surge
coming from new construction at the same
time as you get year-over-year pain in
real estate you've got the and and you
have Reit liquidations because people
want their money out of rates you got
some potential issues now the
year-over-year numbers are important to
look at we can actually look at some of
the year-over-year numbers by looking at
the Redfin Data Center and it's really
simple that we're going to end up a
Crossing these year over year numbers
which actually finally start creating
fear in the real estate market that oh
my Lord home prices are actually coming
down because right now if you look at
year over year prices a year ago we're
actually still higher than where we were
last year uh nominally see take a look
at this home prices right now national
average sitting at 347. well that's
about one percent higher than where we
were last year in January
and what happens if we stay at 347 and
all of a sudden we get to say March and
we compare to 374. well 374 year over
year uh now became 347. you're down 7.3
percent
now all of a sudden people start getting
nervous and then what happens when we
get to May or June or July we're
actually comparing 347 assuming housing
prices don't fall anymore compared to
388 on a national average home prices
are now down over 10 percent and that's
not even going into some markets where
things are getting ugly uh like oh ooh
Boise is a good one you go to like for
example Boise Idaho what do you have
over here look at that housing prices
are falling even more every single week
so you're looking at 444 divided by uh
547 when you get to that comparison
you're down almost 19 percent
so you do have some serious issues
Coming For Real Estate so the dangers
for housing are these higher lot values
which are going to kill margins for
Builders
in addition to cancellations at Builders
I think that potentially combined with
high values for Builder stocks
actually creates a really good short
opportunity uh for Builders potentially
you know I'm not telling you it's a
guarantee it's certainly not
personalized Financial advice for your
portfolio but anyway there's a huge
danger for Builders and Builder stocks
there's a very big risk of increasing
inventory lowering prices not because
homeowners are selling but because of
rate liquidations and Builders but then
when you get the year-over-year fear
combined with rates jumping you have
even more of a problem
in my opinion in order to actually
prevent a more substantial housing
burden or crash you need to see the
10-year treasure yield get below 2.75
I've been pounding my faces on the table
for over a year now saying the more the
10-year treasury year yield is over 2.75
the more pain you're going to get for
longer and it's been pretty volatile
over here you can see on this chart uh
that the chart is unfortunately trending
up again now hopefully that stops maybe
the CPI report comes in low and the high
jobs report end up everything leads to
disinflation great then you put a floor
under the housing market you get your 15
to 25 correction as I've been talking
about for a year on this channel I've
been talking about this since January of
2022 this 15 to 25 correction coming
people called me in you know crazy now
we've already seen 15 to 20 declines and
there's the potential of even more
declines but I hate to say it this guy's
tweet uh Jacob uh this is bad because
really what you're suggesting is that
home builder stocks are rallying under
uh false pretenses that that really home
builders
unintentionally just because home sales
reps don't want to lose their jobs
you're basically having
inadvertent fraud happening to prop up
uh sales for people who are buying homes
with appraisals that are based on
how's this actually selling
for what somebody is in escrow for you
know next down the line that's the
backlog appraise under false pretenses
that somebody's actually uh uh you know
buying a home after someone else at the
similar valuation that's scary
so you get some real real issues
happening in the new construction space
and I would be very cautious and I'm
potentially considering opening up
shorts on uh on some of the home
builders that I choose I'll be posting
all of the alerts for that uh coming up
probably this week here in the stocks
and psychology money group so stay tuned
for that
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