Trump JUST Announced $200 Billion Dollar Housing BAILOUT
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Just a day after Donald Trump slammed
institutional real estate investors,
Donald Trump has bailed out the mortgage
market. Yes, folks, this is all in an
effort to post that Donald Trump is the
affordability president. And if you want
more affordability, vote for Donald this
upcoming midterm election because we
need we need to keep control. If you
want your checks, you need to keep
control with Republicans. Donald Trump
is officially directing Fanny and Freddy
to buy $200 billion of mortgage back
securities. Now, hold on. Let me tell
you more about this after I move my
cashews and almonds off my desk since
all these Carnivore people get triggered
by that. [laughter]
I just like nuts. We have Donald Trump
announcing yes indeed $200 billion. Now,
here's roughly how that plays out.
Because Fanny and Freddy don't actually
have $200 billion, they're going to have
to create some kind or come up with some
kind of creative manner to get their
hands on that money, which likely means
they're going to have to utilize the
equity in their portfolios to issue debt
because they do not have the cash
sitting around. Now, I will explain this
in detail, but Donald Trump says that
practically this will drive mortgage
rates down, monthly payments down, and
therefore the cost of owning a home
down, making it more affordable. This is
part of his populist branding to make
life more affordable because we all know
that when the government gets involved,
things always get more af.
So, anyway, what is happening here and
what is this going to do for you and
your ability to get a mortgage? Well,
spoiler alert. It's actually really
great news for your ability to get a
mortgage. And in this video, I'm going
to give you a time frame for not only
when potentially the best time to
refinance might be, but also what kind
of refinance you should do. So, if
you're even thinking about pulling debt
or refinancing your home, I encourage
you to watch the whole video and then
share it with anybody who might be
thinking the same. Now, something I want
to show you in the near term, in the
very short term, look at this. A stock I
literally just bought two days ago is up
16 percentage points in the after hours.
Why? Because it's Loan Depot. I sent an
alert to everybody in the Meet Kevin
membership that we are going into a
long-term era where mortgage companies
are probably going to be really
desirable place over the long term. you
have to buy them as they kind of bleed
out over time because they do because
the long-term trajectory here I think is
up for the mortgage companies because I
think either through Trump's
intervention or the Fed eventually we're
going to see rates come down
substantially. So I think that will keep
playing out but I don't know if this
whole pump is super sustainable. Now
I'll explain why uh in just a moment.
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every morning before the bell. So,
what's going on? Donald Trump is saying
that these entities have the cash to
provide this $200 billion
allocation to the mortgage bond market
and buy mortgage bond securities.
Unfortunately, this is objectively
false, but that, you know, facts don't
stand in the way of a good story with
Donald Trump. We know that. We know that
looking at a balance sheet isn't fun. I
mean, here's Freddy Mack. Freddy Mack
literally has $4 billion of cash sitting
around. The rest is tied up in either
restricted cash, like commitments that
they've already made to fund loans or
buy loans or buy securities. So, they
got $4.6 billion in cash. Well, that
ain't $200 billion. But Kevin, maybe
Fanny May has the rest of the money. No,
Fanny May has $12 billion of cash. 27 of
uh 7 27 additional that it's restricted,
which uh which has to do with other
agreements that they've already made.
The point is together the companies have
equity of about $160 billion. See total
stockholder equity right here. I got
about 105 here and about 67 over at
Freddy. If you combine it together, 67 +
105, you get to about $172 billion of
equity. In order to actually create $200
billion of cash to go shopping mortgage
back securities to bring mortgage rates
down, they're actually going to have to
issue debt. Now, why does that matter to
you? It matters because this is going to
be a short-term impact. That's my whole
point of explaining this is the reason
you should know about the mechanics of
this is they're going to create some
short-term poopy dupies to make this
happen. Basically, Fanny and Freddy are
going to have to load up to the you know
what in debt, which means somebody has
to provide that capital. By providing
that capital, you could actually take
money away from the Treasury market,
which usually drives down mortgage rates
as the Treasury market relaxes over
time. So, on one hand, you're going to
prop up the mortgage back securities
market, lowering uh yields on the
mortgage back securities market,
hopefully reducing mortgage rates, but
you're going to prop up probably the
10-year because you'll have less people
buying. You'll have created all this
additional debt for the government. So
you're saddling shareholders with $200
billion basically of more debt or
taxpayers, right? Because ultimately
Fanny and Freddy aren't just, you know,
well, they're government sponsored
entities, right? So the government backs
them. So this is really taxpayer debt,
right? We're stimulating by issuing more
debt, which creates inflationary
concerns which could drive the 10-year
Treasury up. So, the impact here, long
and short of it, might be a little
short-lived because this is not like the
Federal Reserve where the Federal
Reserve gets to swoop in and say, "Hey
guys, uh, we're going to create money
out of thin air. This money has to come
from somewhere." Now, once we get over
the inflationary effects of this
additional debt, the additional debt
issuance, the 10-year Treasury going up,
then the money is available. Once that
money is available, then they can start
buying mortgage back securities. This is
all to help you understand when to
refinance. Okay, this is I I love this
kind of stuff. Look at this. Once the
White House makes the directive, which
is basically a truth social post, okay,
we we've seen that. Now, they got to get
approval and clearance from the Treasury
Department, then they got to likely
issue debt, raise money. Like I said,
they don't have the cash. Once they have
the cash, then they can go buy mortgage
back securities. This whole process
right here is probably going to take two
to four weeks. And now, technically, we
could probably jump in and like actually
buy the mortgage back securities pretty
dang fast. The problem is if you buy
them too fast, you risk pulling off what
I call the Michael Sailor issue. The
Michael Sailor issue is where you go in
there and all of a sudden you've bought
so quickly that you've actually
artificially pumped the value of uh
mortgage back securities and you're
really overpaying for them. Which means
you're going to see a really funny
dynamic and this is what I want you to
take advantage of as somebody thinking
about refinancing. This is why you
subscribe to the channel for this kind
of alpha. Okay, ready for this? It's
going to take them two to three weeks or
whatever, maybe four weeks to issue the
money, to raise the money. Okay? Once
they raise the money, what are they
going to do? They're going to go on a
shopping spree like Michael Sailor
buying orange. Okay? This guy sees
orange, he bleeds orange. We don't have
to get down that rabbit hole right now.
But anyway, he's basically willing to
overpay just to get some more orange.
So, you're going to see mortgage back
security prices go up. When mortgage
backed security prices go up, the yields
on mortgage back securities go down.
That's how you contribute, I'll tell you
about that in a moment, to mortgage
rates going down. Okay? So, them
overpaying for these MBS's drives
mortgage rates down. Yes. Yes, it does.
Yes, it does. However, at some point,
people who are dumping mortgage back
securities are going to be very
grateful, first of all, for this extra
bonus to be able to sell this stuff. Uh,
which by the way, who happens to be
dumping mortgage back securities? Oh,
the Federal Reserve is rolling off $35
billion of mortgage back securities per
month, which means Donald Trump has
basically just delayed about $5.7
billion worth uh or sorry, 5.7 months
worth of the Fed rolloff. But see, the
Fed was doing it slowly. 35 a month, 35
a month, 35 a month, 35 a month, 35 a
month, 35 a month. Right? Donald Trump
is coming in going, "Nah, bro. 200." No.
That's going to create distortions,
which means you will probably see
mortgage backed securities do this.
First, they go up, then they come back
down. They probably will go to some
point slightly above equilibrium.
But the point is you want to kind of
refinance
at that peak. Okay? Now, the way to
watch for this is mortgage rates are
going to look like the opposite. they'll
aggressively go down and then you'll
actually see them come up again and then
they'll level off. This will probably
take 2 to 4 weeks, maybe even 6 weeks to
get to that bottom. But as a result of
this, we can make a little calendar for
us. So let's do that. Today is January
8th, 4 weeks from now, Feb 8. This means
probably Feb 8 through at 14 days,
probably Feb 22, probably refinance lock
window. That's probably when you want to
like lock in your refinance. Now, track
it, right? Track it. The way you track
it is watch what mortgage rates are for
a 0 point rate. Do not call up your
lender tomorrow and go, "I want a 5.5%
rate." And they're like, "Sure, that'll
be four points." Don't do that. You want
the 0 point rate. When the 0 point rate
hits 5 point if the 0 point rate gets
down to 5.5%. Oh dude, Goldilocks take
it and run to the bank, baby. Okay,
probably we might bottom out here. 5.75,
take it. Reinance, baby, take it. I
would not lock in my interest rate now.
So I would wait to lock. lock
midFebruary,
track rates daily. Uh if they're done
buying or you see an announcement that
they're done buying, lock in. If you see
rates starting to tick up again and you
know, you hit sort of a floor and now
they're ticking up, lock in. [snorts]
Once you lock, you're usually pretty
stuck, unless you go to a different
lender, right? But that's kind of mean
and and broke and some people do it, but
I don't advocate it. But anyway, so yes,
this will create a refinance boom. Uh
this will be a mini refi boom in Q1,
which will show up in April earnings for
Rocket Mortgage and uh Loan Depot, baby.
And of course, other lenders, maybe to
some extent, figure lending as well.
Now, this little mini refinance boom
could also support the housing market by
increasing prices, right? So, if you
need to sell a property, probably a good
thing to do. If you need to buy,
sure, but be careful because if
everybody has lower rates, you might
slightly be overpaying. Like, my thing
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we're going to keep working as hard as
we can to get this out as soon as we
can. That said, what I really want you
to think about is look at this. This is
the Trump administration. The Trump
administration allows Fanny and Freddy
to grow their retained portfolio. uh or
if if Trump allows this, there's no
question we'll have a downward impact on
mortgage rates, probably by at least a
quarter of a point, maybe more. People
are saying between 0.25 to 0.5
percentage points. Some of the pump in
the mortgage market might be temporary
if we end up getting a really good jobs
report. That's also really important to
remember because consider that the
Atlanta Fed real GDP measure is at
insane right now. Atlanta Fed's real GDP
literally just skyrocketed to 5.4 4%
which is crazy. And if the job numbers
tomorrow are strong, your 10-year
Treasury is just going to go up.
Unfortunately, the more the 10-year
Treasury goes up, the more we don't end
up getting lower mortgage rates because
of how a mortgage rate is calculated.
So, remember how this works and and this
really honestly matters a little bit
less for you, but it's worth thinking
about. The way you get this sort of
action working has to do with the
spread. Mortgage rates are created by a
spread or a combination of the spread
between the 10-year Treasury yield, a
spread known as the MBS spread. Uh, and
then you get your 30-year mortgage rate.
Today, that spread is pretty wide. The
10ear is about 4.15. Mortgage rates are
like 6.15 to 6.3. It's a historically
large spread. We're usually only about a
spread of about one and a half. We're at
like two to two and a half right now.
It's a pretty big spread. That spread
does not necessarily have to go down
though just because of this MBS buying
which the free market will likely look
at and go this is just a temporary bump.
We know it's going to come back down and
the free market usually doesn't like
government intervention. It just means
more debt and more inflation. Now keep
this in mind if the economy does
continue to weaken on a job site you
probably don't want to pay any points.
So my general broad recommendation, not
personalized advice, my general
recommendation, general advice, do not
pay points to refinance. So what I would
do, for example, I would usually take
1.5 togative 1.75 points on a refinance.
The reason I'm going to do that is I'm
going to end up like if the 0 point rate
is let's say 5.75%.
Maybe I can get uh at 1.5 points maybe I
can get a 6% rate. So I'm going to have
a little bit higher rate. But as long as
I have that loan for less than about 10
years, I'm going to make more money not
coming out of pocket to pay for my
refinance and some of the property taxes
and other re closing costs. So, I'd
rather take negative points and take a
nocost refinance
in February. That's what I'd be looking
for. Now, you can get the process
started. You can start getting
underwritten. You could start talking to
your lenders. That's on you. Uh, and I
recommend you have it have your stuff
ready. Start getting stuff ready for
your taxes and be ready to actually go
through a refinance. They're typically
going to look for payubs, driver's
license, social security card, your last
two years tax returns, your year-to-
date income. If you're self-employed,
any kind of year-to- date statements,
especially if your income is declining
or volatile, very important, they're
going to want to see some year-to- date
stuff, too. Although, year to date is
only going to be like 30 days, right?
Uh, so pay stubs will help there, again,
unless you're self-employed. But anyway,
yeah, there will be a refinance boom
here. There will be some opportunities
in this. It will not create long-term
affordability because the market will
just normalize probably by the summer.
Now, if the jobs market goes to crap by
the summer, well, rates are going to go
lower anyway and you'll just want to
refinance again anyway. And if you took
a negative point rate, great, perfect.
Then just refinance again. [music] If
the economy keeps booming and you end up
getting, you know, inflation because of
all this debt issuance, then rates can
actually go up, which would be Anyway,
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