Barclays Recession, Stagflation, Fed U-Turn, Wage Risk, & Morgan Stanley Stock Picks.
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oh boy we've got a lot to cover in this
one first we're going to go through my
opinion on the bottom of the market then
we're going to look at institutional
analysis including Barclays thoughts on
the potential for a soft Landing what
the fat is going to do next Wall Street
journals insights on wages the Goldman
Sachs Financial conditions index these
are incredible charts and we'll look at
10 years of a potential growth sector
with a lot of pp a big PP that you want
to be paying attention to then we'll
also be looking at natwest's macro
Outlook but first we are going to start
with my insights into well my thesis on
the bottom of the market what do I think
and when do I think things are going to
bottom now to be clear this is just the
culmination of all of my research and
it's my opinion just because I'm a
licensed financial advisor doesn't mean
that this opinion is correct but
somebody commented and said Hey Kevin we
want to know what your opinion is
because we get all the sauce some
research from you but sometimes we don't
get that sort of cohesive opinion on
with all that info what do you think
Kevin and we want that perspective so
I'm going to go ahead and start actually
by providing that so just to catch you
up okay this part might sound familiar
but remember there's a big difference
between a Fed U-turn and a Fed pivot
pivot is like lowering the amount of uh
rate increases they're doing or the
amount of them or pausing right those
are pivots u-turns are what the FED does
when they break stuff like in 1987
that's when they created the precedent
that's when they started the idea of
look we will come in and we will bail
out markets we will provide Financial
liquid liquidity and be the lender of
Last Resort they did the same thing in
March of 2003 ending the.com crash they
u-turned at the bottom because you break
things and then they're like oh crap we
need to bail everything out and then the
U-turn right so they did the same thing
in Feb of 2009 the same thing in
December of 2018 and again more recently
as we all remember in March of 2020 they
were stock markets bottomed at the exact
point the fed u-turned and is really
really incredible however now we're
really aware of this and so guess what
markets are trying to do today which and
these are dangerous words right saying
the words this time is different is
dangerous you have to be aware of that
right but what markets I believe are
trying to do right now is they're trying
to predict that bottom they could be
wrong but this time could be different
in that basically and this is my thesis
markets could bottom and the Federal
Reserve might not U-turn until
potentially six to nine months later
where you actually end up having a
U-turn here and then you really see
potentially an inflection point up uh
even more dramatically in the stock
market however the difference between
this point over here and this point here
could be 50 so think about that you you
could see stocks off Bottom by maybe 50
percent certain of them or indices off
Bottom by maybe 10 20 percent by the
time the FED u-turns and that's because
in this cycle our recession that we're
expecting seems to be the most predicted
recession ever and every single move the
FED is plotting is essentially aligning
with the bond market and usually we
don't have that clear of insight into
the FED just copying what the bond
market does because usually the FED
bails everything out once stuff breaks
which stuff could still break right
that's a risk to this thesis but right
now the bond market is pricing in 1.7
percent of cuts in 2023 that's this year
the bond market is pricing in 1.73
percent in fed cuts and at the end of
The Cutting cycle the bond market is
pricing in 500 basis points of cuts and
so my thesis is that by the time we
actually start getting cuts that U-turn
it's going to be so clear that they're
going to cut that markets will have
already done a lot of rebounding and so
to some degree this chart could actually
look a little bit different where you
could have the situation where prices
come down
and then we bottom we actually
aggressively sort of v-shape off of the
bottom then the FED u-turns but it's so
predicted that sure we just sort of
continue on with a Green Market but like
the fed's already u-turned and so that
bottom could become or come to us before
a Fed U-turn that's my thesis so that's
why personally I'm actually investing
more into the market because even though
I might not know exactly where the
bottom is and I don't profess to know
where the bottom is right I want to be
buying sort of like this right this is
kind of my thesis is hey can I take
extra money can I build businesses can I
make investments near the bottom what
can I do to limit my taxes make
investments to get more growth happening
near the bottom because I think by the
time the FED u-turns it's going to be
easy to make money again it'll be easy
to start businesses it'll be easy to
invest again
but I want to make the big Investments
starting the hard part so that's my
personal thesis I agree with the bond
market that massive cuts are coming you
don't have to agree with that right if
you think that inflation is going to be
sticky then this is a big issue right we
could continue to Trend down down until
something really breaks right we get
another surge of inflation something
really really breaks and then what
happens the Federal Reserve ends up
having to bail in at that point to bail
out markets and what do you get well now
you get the real bottom and the real
U-turn so I just as clearly as possible
trying to provide you the difference
between my opinion and the risk factors
what could happen right but I do think
it's also worth noting what Barclays
suggests and this is interesting uh
because they they tell us exactly what
we want to be paying attention to to see
if the Soft Landing is possible or not
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Barclays talks about how thanks to the
December CPI number and the Atlanta
wedge tracker uh winch tracker I'm
thinking about real estate wage tracker
we might actually see the prospects for
a soft Landing increase but there are
some big risks here so the first thing
we're going to do is we're going to look
at the Atlanta wage tracker I want to
teach you about this because the wage
tracker really aligns with some of the
behavior that we've seen from Jerome
Powell now the wage tracker basically
uses a three-month average and a
12-month average to tell you about
what's going on with wages and I think
it's actually pretty fascinating so if
we pull that chart up this is what we're
looking at and what you could see if we
jump onto a 12 month average for wages
it looks like wages are just
skyrocketing and this is really
dangerous because it increases the odds
of what's known as a wage price spiral
where basically wages are growing faster
than inflation inducing new inflation as
people have more money to spend and
therefore you end up with runaway
inflation High inflation expectations
and ultimately Jerome Powell has to turn
into Paul broker and push us into a deep
dark depression rather than just a soft
recession and if you look here when
Kevin you turned on stocks in January of
2022 and I'm like oh my God I got a
flip-flop we were just at the beginning
of wage prices going up I sat down with
somebody who used to work for the
Federal Reserve at a JP Morgan luncheon
and I'm like you guys aren't paying
attention to wages and they're like well
we only have a 15 chance of recession
price then and I'm like you're blind
cell right uh and and so anyway sure
enough wages skyrocketed after that
right now don't get me wrong hey look I
had some good bets and I had some bad
bets over the last year right that's for
sure but when it comes to macro I'm just
going to give you all my insights and
what I saw then is the opposite of what
I'm seeing now why well just for an
example not just earnings call but an
example earnings calls where I'm seeing
the opposite start happening right
people's ability companies abilities to
raise prices are are falling you're not
seeing the insane inflation and reports
you were seeing before but now you look
at the wage tracker and you look at the
three month moving average this is not
the month over month this is the three
month moving average and look at what
you have you have finally the the growth
still being positive which is good for
workers but it's finally inflecting down
we have not actually really had an
inflection point down in this entire
cycle yet certainly not one of this
magnitude right we've had little tiny
little pauses here misses on some of the
data on three month average uh which is
is just sort of month-to-month
fluctuations you see but you go to
overall weighted you go to college
degree you go to mail you go to paid
hourly Services prime age job Seeker
notice how they're all
inflecting down right let's do some more
let's go overall back to 1983 inflecting
down how about job switchers inflecting
down how about females inflecting down
you usually full time that one you
couldn't really tell because I was in
the way of that one but uh basically
also here I'll just hide myself for a
second so there we go also reflecting
down anyway point being
the Atlanta wage tracker is giving us
good news now that's great but we still
have a big problem and Barclays makes
this big problem very very clear we know
this from my coverage of the last CPI
report it's great that we have a
moderation and core CPI prices reflected
reflecting deflation even in the goods
component but there are three components
right number one Goods number two
housing number three wages well we see
Goods deflating we see disinflation
finally coming to wages but we have this
problem in housing see if you look at
what's known as core core inflation
which removes shelter and medical
subcategories and CPI we're down to only
two percent or sorry 0.2 percent month
over month inflation which annualizes to
about 2.4 percent right at that level
where the FED could come out and
actually preserve their own credibility
by saying hey uh that's close enough to
two percent thanks to our policy of
flexible average inflation targeting
pronounced fate we're good we don't have
to hike anymore and they could save face
because they could just refer back to
fate kind of crazy but anyway now you
see core core plummeting but what's
propping it up right now Big Time
shelter baby and we expect shelter to
plummet absolutely sharply plummet over
the next uh a few months because we're
seeing leading indicators like rents
plummet but the big risk factor that
Barclays talks about right here is that
inflation could remain persistent if for
some reason we don't actually see
shelter inflation fall they say here
that we must see new rental contracts
materialize in CPI for us to actually
have any hope at a soft Landing now we
believe that's going to happen because
again leading indicators as researched
by the FED itself all you have to do is
look at the Cleveland fed the Cleveland
fed has a somewhere around 40 page
working paper on exactly this here it is
Federal Reserve banking Cleveland
working paper
disentangling rent industry differences
and when you go to the conclusion
section way over here you can see that
most indicators of inflation are
plummeting dramatically but CPI is still
playing catch-up but as soon as CPI
stops playing catch up which we think
will come by this summer we're going to
have this massive anchor of deflationary
pressure and that could really lead to
that soft Landing that everybody is
hoping for but remember hope is not an
investing strategy so we have to be
clear as hopeful as we can be that
things are lining up that businesses are
finally no longer bragging about all of
their pricing power via strictly just
raising prices and raising margins now
we have to get more nuanced and go uh oh
we're in a recessionary environment
pricing power is plummeting at companies
across the board and now it's kind of
like okay well whose pricing power is
plummeting the least right that's what
you have to do in a recessionary time
because everyone shrinks like everyone's
PP shrinks during a recession it's kind
of like when the cold comes around you
know everyone's well okay you get the
idea so then it's just a matter of okay
well now that there's been some
shrinking in PP who's still got the
biggest amount of pp left you know the
biggest one and so that's a big issue so
finding those companies is hard but even
Barclays shows us or at least tells us
uh and shows us that they're seeing GDP
forecasts not just increase at their
company or sort of their institution but
also at institutions across the board
companies and people and institutions
are coming to believe that wow maybe
things won't actually be that bad as
long as inflation keeps coming down and
this is where you get to the soft
Landing thesis that basically they're
projecting the little green bars here
being their revised projection from
November which is blue they basically
revise down their 2022 GDP but they were
negative for GDP for 2023 you could
barely see that blue sliver there and
now they're actually thinking no no we
we could actually end up with a full
year of growth here it'll be a small
amount of growth but we're not
projecting as negative for economies
anymore whether it's the US Europe or
the United Kingdom thanks in part to gas
prices and a much warmer winter that's
helping out Europe for example and
thanks in part to well quite frankly
inflation starting to fall now this is
where Barclays still thinks the
following they still do believe and I
differ here they still believe that the
Federal Open Market Committee the
Federal Reserve will raise rates to 5.25
before the end of the hiking cycle the
market does not believe that they say
that as well the market as a terminal
rate is sitting at like 4.9 right now
and it kind of continues to Trend down I
personally think you've got a lot of
folks today saying well the inflation's
got to get to two percent they got a
long way to go yes but don't forget
about fate everybody forgets that the
FED could just pull the rabbit out of
the hat and go ah as long as we average
two percent it's fine what did we have
the last decade lower inflation right we
were struggling around you know to get
inflation up we were sitting at like 1.6
1.8 percent it was incredible so we
could really average two percent over a
longer term as long as we continue to
see this trend down now they also
believe that uh certainly by May we're
going to be done with the hiking cycle
at that time they do believe we're going
to be at the early stages of a shallower
recession and we could see two quarters
of a recession but still end the year
positive
although a lot of folks will say
technically we already had two quarters
in a row of negative GDP in 2022 so
maybe we already had our recession or
we're just gonna have a double dip
recession where it's sort of like we had
our recession in 2022 maybe that gets
revised away and then we get another
recession in 2023. it's a crappy time
right or maybe it's the best time to
invest
either way uh this is where Barclays
talks about here lower gas prices easing
Financial conditions and improved growth
Outlook could actually end up hurting
underlying inflation and so it's just
going to be a risk that we have to deal
with over the few next few months is
that as we see inflation plummet maybe
people start getting a little
comfortable too soon and the market does
actually move up hurting those financial
conditions now let's look at Financial
conditions because in my opinion this is
fascinating because it shows you how
tight things have gotten relative to
where we were when meet Kevin had his
big flip-flop and what I want you to pay
attention to is not just the big
flip-flop moment but I also want you to
compare to where we sit relative to
let's say like a
2018. so this is important this is the
Goldman Sachs Financial conditions index
and what you're going to see in this
chart is that the white line represents
Financial conditions how tight are they
when the pandemic hit Financial
conditions
skyrocketed and the Federal Reserve
moved to loosen Financial conditions to
bring things back to normal by lowering
rates and providing liquidity we almost
got to those levels here look how I mean
even if you just look at sort of this
little mountain of financial conditions
tightness over here that's where we saw
assat in September of this year like
Financial conditions have been crazy
tight which also represents the peak of
financial conditions in December of 2018
when the Fed u-turned so the FED
u-turned here when Financial conditions
were actually less tight than they have
been this year so Financial conditions
are really really tight and have been
very very tight this year if we look at
the line of where we are now I'll go
ahead and drag that one over actually I
did that here there we go if you look at
where we are now this is where we sit
now this is where that is relative to
covid and this is where that is relative
to 2018. still pretty tight so even
though Financial conditions yes are
softening that could be a good thing for
the FED because they might say hey
that's okay you know as long as
inflation continues to plummet we could
see some loosening
but the more this stays elevated and the
more inflation continues to loosen and
fall the more the FED will be likely to
U-turn and drop these Financial
conditions much lower and more towards
longer term average which will probably
be right around this orange line that I
just turned uh red here
that is your longer term average for
financial condition tightness and that
shows we've got a good way to go in
financial conditions coming down that
would be the cutting cycle and If the
Fed actually breaks things because
they're too slow at reacting they could
actually push Financial conditions even
lower to kind of unfortunately what led
to the boom cycle in 2021 and this is
why you get people like Michael burry
saying they're going to end up cutting
they'll respond too late they'll end up
cutting so dramatically that you'll end
up creating another inflationary period
via Financial conditions that are just
too loose
all right that's a lot to take in but
now we've got to go to the next piece
now the next piece is interesting uh
this actually is a quick one this is
just a small piece from The Wall Street
Journal I wanted to point out this other
risk factor right here and that is that
even though we're seeing an inflection
in wages The Wall Street Journal
mentions in this article I'm just kind
of going straight to the bottom line for
you in this one wages tend to be
stickier than inflation as uh the person
they interviewed from credit Suite
suggests they don't rise or fall as
rapidly as consumer prices that means
wage gains could exceed inflation for a
little while until in uh until wages
start falling now that's fascinating
because it's basically saying we could
be an environment where people are
starting to get fearful about a wage
price spiral where inflation maybe Falls
to say three percent very quickly but
then wages are sitting at five percent
let's say in year-over-year growth and
that difference makes people worried
about a wage price spiral and maybe
forces a fed to stay more aggressive for
longer which if they stay more
aggressive for longer it reiterates that
maybe the FED will end up going too far
or waiting too long to U-turn and then
when they U-turn and they break
something they'll actually go really
really aggressive at cutting and you're
just in the next boom cycle which again
we think that next boom cycle gets sort
of precedes when the FED u-turns because
the Market's just now calling the feds
Bluff and they're starting to say nah
you guys aren't going to make it that
long Y'all Gonna U-turn oh we're pricing
that U-turn in that's why I have this
thesis that we could potentially see one
of these scenarios here where the
markets bottom well before the FED
U-turn because the Market's already
saying that's okay fed you keep
pretending to be you know the tough Dad
we know you love us at the end of the
day we know you're coming back so I
think that's quite fascinating in
addition to another thing that's very
interesting is this right here Morgan
Stan finally put out a piece and in the
future I'll go through the individual
companies that they talk about I'll give
you that spoiler in a moment but I'll go
through an analysis on the individual
companies later but Morgan Stanley puts
out a piece and talks about maybe one of
the most attractive Investments to get
into
you know once we're closer to the bottom
of the market which could be now who
knows right but along with my thesis
Morgan Stanley actually thinks for 2023
the best place to go is places that
benefit from the inflation reduction act
and that's because we're going to get 10
years plus of federal support for wind
solar hydrogen and energy storage and
stocks aren't really pricing that in yet
so they think you want to focus on
profitable growth companies or companies
with a path to profitability me at least
I'm a big fan of pricing power stocks
that are already profitable and are
growing I don't like money losing
companies and I love battery storage
companies big fan of this not the
biggest fan yet of green hydrogen I
actually personally was a big fan of
just the strategy I want to be very
clear about this because we know that
Nicola was a fraud but they had an
interesting strategy because you have to
know this for hydrogen who's going to
buy a hydrogen car
if there is no place
to actually fuel up your hydrogen car
right so you have a chicken or egg
problem nobody wants to buy a hydrogen
car because there's no hydrogen fuel
around
so an interesting thing that Nicola did
which I thought was cool is they said
well fine we'll create an electric
vehicle that also has a hydrogen fuel
cell right their their pickup truck now
you can charge your car as an EV and now
you actually create the demand for
hydrogen fuel because you have an EV
hydrogen hybrid that strategy another
company will pick that up and I think
it's going to be a brilliant way to
basically Trojan Horse the hydrogen
field so that's going to be something to
pay attention to Morgan Stanley is a big
fan of uh stem and plug power I was not
the biggest fan of plug I made a whole
video on when they were like 70 bucks
like this is very dangerous like this
thing's gonna plummet sure enough it did
but you can learn a lot more about plug
by just watching that video because a
lot of the information is still very
relevant type into YouTube meet Kevin
plug power and you'll see it but also
some others here like n-e-e AES and amps
a lot of these are utility players and
sort of commercial grade electricity
providers
fascinating worth looking into those
companies stay tuned And subscribe
because I'll be providing some research
on those companies as well
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January 30th so what does NatWest tell
us well NatWest tells us that indicators
specifically services isms and most
other indicators particularly in Europe
point to a shallower or even no
recession this winter contrary to
expectations part of the Slowdown might
have been postponed but Chinese
reopenings and overall lower energy
prices bode well for improved economic
Outlook we're starting to get a lot more
good news than bad news right this is
good they also suggest that
stagflationary Dynamics are being
stopped or are even reversing that's
really good for central banks now this
new scenario argues for a modest future
tightening and clearly lends to support
to our long standing call for 25 BP
hikes that's not West here now they have
uh some other pieces that we're going to
look at some brief portions here but
this is fascinating inventories for
natural gas rising in Germany everybody
thought they were going to run out and
they were going to have massive
shortages inventories are going up on
top of that they suggest that in 2023
total energy costs may be around half as
expensive as previously thought and take
a look at this they talk about this idea
that yes right now Jerome Powell is
still trying to have the aggressive face
on but all of the leading data is
pushing down and now what we want to do
is pay attention to the next Catalyst
the next big one in my opinion we've
already talked about financial
conditions but the next big one you want
to pay attention to is right here those
three letters e c i and that stands for
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Catalyst for that is in 15 days
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comes out okay so EC on it's gonna be
one of the next big Catalyst and guess
what it happens just two days before the
FED meeting Feb won so hopefully you
found all of this Insight really helpful
let me know in the comments down below
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boom
all right folks thanks for watching
we'll see in the next one goodbye
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