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‘This blood will come back to haunt you’ - family of Iranian student shot dead

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Rabbina Arminian had grand designs for

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her clothes, for her life. She was

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studying fashion in Tehran, was planning

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to move to Milan to open a boutique, and

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going by her Instagram account. She was

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a Clash fan.

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On Thursday evening, the 23-year-old

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left college for home, but met a group

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of friends going to the anti-regime

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demonstrations that night and decided to

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accompany them.

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According to her family, at some point

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during the protests, the young woman was

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shot in the head from close range and

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died instantly.

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>> Today, we spoke to Rabbina's aunt, Hali

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Nuri, and her husband from Norway, where

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they live.

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for

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Foreign

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speech. Foreign speech. Foreign speech.

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According to her family, Rabbina is one

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of hundreds of demonstrators killed by

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security forces since the demonstrations

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began two weeks ago. An internet

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blackout has meant the world is only now

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being dripfed the horror.

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>> Her shooting was just the start of the

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torture for the family. The regime

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refused them permission to bury her in

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their hometown of Carman. They do this

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to try to stop funerals becoming

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platforms for protest. So the family

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were forced to bury her in a different

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town 4 hours drive away.

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Unlike Rabbina's funeral, the funerals

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of security personnel are broadcast on

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state television used as a stage for

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pro- regime support. The government has

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declared three days of national

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mourning. Also in Tran today,

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demonstrations in support of Iran's

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leaders. The regime can still mobilize

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thousands.

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This round of protests has become very

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violent very quickly. As well as

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hundreds of demonstrators killed,

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Iranian media is reporting that over a

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100 security personnel have also died.

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Iran's foreign minister again blamed

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foreign influence for the unrest and

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described the protests as terrorist

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operations. In response to Donald Trump

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floating the idea of US military

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intervention, he said this.

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for

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Sultani is 26, due to get married soon.

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He was arrested at demonstrations near

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Thran on Thursday evening. A relative of

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his spoke to us from Germany today.

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Samya told us that Iranian police

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informed the family that he was due to

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be executed on Wednesday.

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This is a pivotal week for Iran. We'll

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start to get a sense of whether the

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momentum behind the anti-regime

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demonstrations is continuing or not. The

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chilling effect of violent clampdown and

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a communications blackout will also

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become clearer. According to Rabbina

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Amin's aunt, the reasons her niece took

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to the streets though will stay the

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same. This her message to Iran's

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leadership.

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The questions that will linger though,

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what will Trump actually do next? What

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stage are behind the scenes negotiations

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at? Trump's stated red line was the mass

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killing of protesters. That line was

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passed days ago.

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>> Porica Brian with that report. Well, the

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White House has just been talking about

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military options and the chance of

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diplomacy. Let's go to our US editor,

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Anushka Estana, outside the White House.

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Anushka, what have they said?

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>> Well, everyone is trying to find out

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what the White House might do next. Last

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night on Air Force One, Donald Trump was

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very, very clear that there are military

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options they're looking into. He

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described them as strong military

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options. He was asked, "Should Iran take

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us seriously?" and he almost grumpily

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replied, "Look at all the interventions

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that I've done all over the world."

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We've talked about this a lot, Matt. The

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idea that the this administration,

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despite sounding isolationist at the

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start, has actually intervened all over

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the place. You named a number of places,

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strikes in Iran, Iraq, Nigeria, Somalia,

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Syria, and more. So, yes, they should

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take it seriously. We've heard from the

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Iranian supreme leader about America as

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well. He's actually talked about

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deceitful actions of lawmakers here. He

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actually posted in Russian language on X

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saying that America needs to be careful

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not to miscalculate. But as you said,

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they are also trying to open diplomatic

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routes of conversation. And Caroline

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Levit, the press secretary here, spoke

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about this within the past hour.

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Diplomacy is always the first option for

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the president. He's told all of you last

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night that what you're hearing publicly

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from the Iranian regime is quite

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differently from the messages the

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administration is receiving privately.

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And I think the president has an

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interest in exploring those messages. Uh

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however, with that said, um the

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president has shown he's unafraid to use

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military options if and when he deems

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necessary, and nobody knows that better

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than Iran.

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>> So every chance that they will

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intervene, but it feels different to the

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past where America was intervening to

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spread democracy. It feels much more

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with Donald Trump like they're looking

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for strategic interests. What do Iran

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want from America? Well, they want fewer

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sanctions. What does America want from

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Iran? Well, some people say to me there

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are lots of strategic interests there

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around security, but also this is a very

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energyrich country if the politics goes

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in a different direction. What people

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will want to know is does Donald Trump

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want regime change because we've seen in

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Venezuela that that isn't where we've

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ended up at the moment.

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>> Indeed, Anushka, thank you very much

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indeed there. Well, with more on the

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internet blackout in Iran, here's

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Kieran.

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So, since 8:00 p.m. local time on

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Thursday, Iran's internet has been shut

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down. That's 87 million people

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disconnected from each other and the

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rest of the world. The third time the

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regime has pulled the plug. They also

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did it after protests in 2019 and 2022.

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But it's a selective blackout because

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Iran's supreme leader Ayatah Ali has

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been prolific on X for example for the

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benefit of a foreign audience mind since

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Iranians clearly can't see these posts

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now as in 2022 Iranians found a way

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around the shutdown turning to Elon

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Musk's SpaceX Starlink network. That's

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thousands of satellites in low orbit

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providing internet services to remote

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areas. And to access it, you need a user

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terminal. But the Iranian authorities

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have made it illegal to connect to

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Starink. So using these devices is

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highly dangerous in a regime which

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punishes descent with death. And yet

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Iranian officials have said they believe

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there are tens of thousands of Starlink

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terminals across Iran. The majority of

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information protesters are getting out

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of Iran since Thursday night is being

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transmitted via Starlink, it's thought.

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But there are reports the regime has

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even managed to disrupt Starlink,

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causing severe connection issues for

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users in Iran. Now, that's something the

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Russian military has long been involved

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with in Ukraine, for example, where it's

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in something of a technological race

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with Starlink for the upper hand and

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where it's known to deploy trucks that

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use radio noise to disrupt satellite

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signals. Now, President Trump weighed in

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on Iran's blackout yesterday, saying he

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plans to speak to Elon Musk about

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restoring internet access in Iran. Matt

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Thanks Graeme. Well, joining me now from

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Washington is Cosro Isahani, a senior

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analyst for the National Union for

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Democracy in Iran. U thanks very much

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for coming on the program. I mean

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there's an awful lot of brutality on the

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streets thanks to the regime and we are

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getting reports unconfirmed is it that

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some people are now deciding not to risk

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their lives and go on the streets. Is

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the regime and its brutality winning the

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day?

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What has come as a surprise to many

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observers of Iran developments is that

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the Iranian people's courage is not

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subduing after this wave of violence. I

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personally have been involved with

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cycles of protests in Iran since 2009. I

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lived in that country and was on the

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front lines of every cycle of protests.

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In every cycle we were we were beaten,

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we were killed, we were arrested, we

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were tortured, we were raped, we were

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jailed. But we have returned to the

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streets. But this time there is one more

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element. People have found a leader who

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they are rallying behind and they are

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not giving up. They are not relenting.

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As I walked into this studio, I was

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reviewing testimonies that we received

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from Tehran. The person was telling me

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that every single Iranian that you talk

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with right now has at least lost one

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loved one to the regime's brutality. In

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the past, it was only arrest. The other

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day, they were dumping dead bodies in

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front of families and telling them,

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"Search between them. Find yours." as in

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find the body of your love.

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>> Okay. Now, so you Okay, let me let me

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just interrupt there. You mentioned one

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person in particular. You are referring

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to Raza Palvi, the you know the man who

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would be crown prince uh the son of the

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late Sha who has been mentioned on the

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streets of Tehran. But is he really

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going to lead or could he lead the

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opposition? Could he unify the country

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behind him? And is there any chance at

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all of him coming back to Iran to lead

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even a transitional government?

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He has not been mentioned on the

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streets. People unified are chanting his

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name. There is this running joke in the

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country that those who want a republic

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are chanting that supreme leader harmony

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how lauder because pahi is returning.

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People are united behind him because for

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four decades he has had a unified

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uniform message unchanged principled

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unrivaled. This man has stepped forward

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to lead Iran during the transition

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period. He already has gone on the

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record saying that he is ready to go

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back to Iran and lead the country during

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the

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>> right. So, so you know the American

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governor has had beef with the Iranian

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government for decades since the

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revolution and until recently there has

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been no or very little contact with your

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man Raza Pali. Has that now changed? I

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mean, is is the administration, the

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Trump administration talking to you and

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him?

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>> One, uh, the United States doesn't have

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beef with the Islamic Republic. We are

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dealing with a terrorist state that has

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claimed thousands of lives beyond the

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borders of Iran. How many British

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citizens have been arrested by this?

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>> But let me let me let me press you

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specifically about the Trump government

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administration and Raza Pal. Are they

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talking on a daily basis? Is there a

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plan in place to put him into power

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should the regime collapse?

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>> I'm not going to dulge about private

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communications whether they have

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happened or not. The crown prince and

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the administration in Washington are

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going to announce them when they

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announce them.

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>> Right. Just in one line. Do you want

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Trump to bomb? Yes or no?

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Iranians are on the streets with signs

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saying Trump help. Two words, Trump

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help. That's very clear what people in

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the country want. Okay. Bombing,

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whatever you want to call it, we need

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help. Kahani,

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>> thank you very much indeed.

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>> Thank you.

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