‘This blood will come back to haunt you’ - family of Iranian student shot dead
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Rabbina Arminian had grand designs for
her clothes, for her life. She was
studying fashion in Tehran, was planning
to move to Milan to open a boutique, and
going by her Instagram account. She was
a Clash fan.
On Thursday evening, the 23-year-old
left college for home, but met a group
of friends going to the anti-regime
demonstrations that night and decided to
accompany them.
According to her family, at some point
during the protests, the young woman was
shot in the head from close range and
died instantly.
>> Today, we spoke to Rabbina's aunt, Hali
Nuri, and her husband from Norway, where
they live.
for
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speech. Foreign speech. Foreign speech.
According to her family, Rabbina is one
of hundreds of demonstrators killed by
security forces since the demonstrations
began two weeks ago. An internet
blackout has meant the world is only now
being dripfed the horror.
>> Her shooting was just the start of the
torture for the family. The regime
refused them permission to bury her in
their hometown of Carman. They do this
to try to stop funerals becoming
platforms for protest. So the family
were forced to bury her in a different
town 4 hours drive away.
Unlike Rabbina's funeral, the funerals
of security personnel are broadcast on
state television used as a stage for
pro- regime support. The government has
declared three days of national
mourning. Also in Tran today,
demonstrations in support of Iran's
leaders. The regime can still mobilize
thousands.
This round of protests has become very
violent very quickly. As well as
hundreds of demonstrators killed,
Iranian media is reporting that over a
100 security personnel have also died.
Iran's foreign minister again blamed
foreign influence for the unrest and
described the protests as terrorist
operations. In response to Donald Trump
floating the idea of US military
intervention, he said this.
for
Sultani is 26, due to get married soon.
He was arrested at demonstrations near
Thran on Thursday evening. A relative of
his spoke to us from Germany today.
Samya told us that Iranian police
informed the family that he was due to
be executed on Wednesday.
This is a pivotal week for Iran. We'll
start to get a sense of whether the
momentum behind the anti-regime
demonstrations is continuing or not. The
chilling effect of violent clampdown and
a communications blackout will also
become clearer. According to Rabbina
Amin's aunt, the reasons her niece took
to the streets though will stay the
same. This her message to Iran's
leadership.
The questions that will linger though,
what will Trump actually do next? What
stage are behind the scenes negotiations
at? Trump's stated red line was the mass
killing of protesters. That line was
passed days ago.
>> Porica Brian with that report. Well, the
White House has just been talking about
military options and the chance of
diplomacy. Let's go to our US editor,
Anushka Estana, outside the White House.
Anushka, what have they said?
>> Well, everyone is trying to find out
what the White House might do next. Last
night on Air Force One, Donald Trump was
very, very clear that there are military
options they're looking into. He
described them as strong military
options. He was asked, "Should Iran take
us seriously?" and he almost grumpily
replied, "Look at all the interventions
that I've done all over the world."
We've talked about this a lot, Matt. The
idea that the this administration,
despite sounding isolationist at the
start, has actually intervened all over
the place. You named a number of places,
strikes in Iran, Iraq, Nigeria, Somalia,
Syria, and more. So, yes, they should
take it seriously. We've heard from the
Iranian supreme leader about America as
well. He's actually talked about
deceitful actions of lawmakers here. He
actually posted in Russian language on X
saying that America needs to be careful
not to miscalculate. But as you said,
they are also trying to open diplomatic
routes of conversation. And Caroline
Levit, the press secretary here, spoke
about this within the past hour.
Diplomacy is always the first option for
the president. He's told all of you last
night that what you're hearing publicly
from the Iranian regime is quite
differently from the messages the
administration is receiving privately.
And I think the president has an
interest in exploring those messages. Uh
however, with that said, um the
president has shown he's unafraid to use
military options if and when he deems
necessary, and nobody knows that better
than Iran.
>> So every chance that they will
intervene, but it feels different to the
past where America was intervening to
spread democracy. It feels much more
with Donald Trump like they're looking
for strategic interests. What do Iran
want from America? Well, they want fewer
sanctions. What does America want from
Iran? Well, some people say to me there
are lots of strategic interests there
around security, but also this is a very
energyrich country if the politics goes
in a different direction. What people
will want to know is does Donald Trump
want regime change because we've seen in
Venezuela that that isn't where we've
ended up at the moment.
>> Indeed, Anushka, thank you very much
indeed there. Well, with more on the
internet blackout in Iran, here's
Kieran.
So, since 8:00 p.m. local time on
Thursday, Iran's internet has been shut
down. That's 87 million people
disconnected from each other and the
rest of the world. The third time the
regime has pulled the plug. They also
did it after protests in 2019 and 2022.
But it's a selective blackout because
Iran's supreme leader Ayatah Ali has
been prolific on X for example for the
benefit of a foreign audience mind since
Iranians clearly can't see these posts
now as in 2022 Iranians found a way
around the shutdown turning to Elon
Musk's SpaceX Starlink network. That's
thousands of satellites in low orbit
providing internet services to remote
areas. And to access it, you need a user
terminal. But the Iranian authorities
have made it illegal to connect to
Starink. So using these devices is
highly dangerous in a regime which
punishes descent with death. And yet
Iranian officials have said they believe
there are tens of thousands of Starlink
terminals across Iran. The majority of
information protesters are getting out
of Iran since Thursday night is being
transmitted via Starlink, it's thought.
But there are reports the regime has
even managed to disrupt Starlink,
causing severe connection issues for
users in Iran. Now, that's something the
Russian military has long been involved
with in Ukraine, for example, where it's
in something of a technological race
with Starlink for the upper hand and
where it's known to deploy trucks that
use radio noise to disrupt satellite
signals. Now, President Trump weighed in
on Iran's blackout yesterday, saying he
plans to speak to Elon Musk about
restoring internet access in Iran. Matt
Thanks Graeme. Well, joining me now from
Washington is Cosro Isahani, a senior
analyst for the National Union for
Democracy in Iran. U thanks very much
for coming on the program. I mean
there's an awful lot of brutality on the
streets thanks to the regime and we are
getting reports unconfirmed is it that
some people are now deciding not to risk
their lives and go on the streets. Is
the regime and its brutality winning the
day?
What has come as a surprise to many
observers of Iran developments is that
the Iranian people's courage is not
subduing after this wave of violence. I
personally have been involved with
cycles of protests in Iran since 2009. I
lived in that country and was on the
front lines of every cycle of protests.
In every cycle we were we were beaten,
we were killed, we were arrested, we
were tortured, we were raped, we were
jailed. But we have returned to the
streets. But this time there is one more
element. People have found a leader who
they are rallying behind and they are
not giving up. They are not relenting.
As I walked into this studio, I was
reviewing testimonies that we received
from Tehran. The person was telling me
that every single Iranian that you talk
with right now has at least lost one
loved one to the regime's brutality. In
the past, it was only arrest. The other
day, they were dumping dead bodies in
front of families and telling them,
"Search between them. Find yours." as in
find the body of your love.
>> Okay. Now, so you Okay, let me let me
just interrupt there. You mentioned one
person in particular. You are referring
to Raza Palvi, the you know the man who
would be crown prince uh the son of the
late Sha who has been mentioned on the
streets of Tehran. But is he really
going to lead or could he lead the
opposition? Could he unify the country
behind him? And is there any chance at
all of him coming back to Iran to lead
even a transitional government?
He has not been mentioned on the
streets. People unified are chanting his
name. There is this running joke in the
country that those who want a republic
are chanting that supreme leader harmony
how lauder because pahi is returning.
People are united behind him because for
four decades he has had a unified
uniform message unchanged principled
unrivaled. This man has stepped forward
to lead Iran during the transition
period. He already has gone on the
record saying that he is ready to go
back to Iran and lead the country during
the
>> right. So, so you know the American
governor has had beef with the Iranian
government for decades since the
revolution and until recently there has
been no or very little contact with your
man Raza Pali. Has that now changed? I
mean, is is the administration, the
Trump administration talking to you and
him?
>> One, uh, the United States doesn't have
beef with the Islamic Republic. We are
dealing with a terrorist state that has
claimed thousands of lives beyond the
borders of Iran. How many British
citizens have been arrested by this?
>> But let me let me let me press you
specifically about the Trump government
administration and Raza Pal. Are they
talking on a daily basis? Is there a
plan in place to put him into power
should the regime collapse?
>> I'm not going to dulge about private
communications whether they have
happened or not. The crown prince and
the administration in Washington are
going to announce them when they
announce them.
>> Right. Just in one line. Do you want
Trump to bomb? Yes or no?
Iranians are on the streets with signs
saying Trump help. Two words, Trump
help. That's very clear what people in
the country want. Okay. Bombing,
whatever you want to call it, we need
help. Kahani,
>> thank you very much indeed.
>> Thank you.
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