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Tesla Stock AFTER Robotaxi | Analysis

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It's time for an updated price analysis

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on Tesla following the launch of the

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robo taxi service in Austin, Texas. So,

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in this video, we're going to uh break

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down how much money Tesla could make

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from its robo taxi service and how much

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this could move the underlying stock,

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which is quite exciting to think about.

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It's also worth realizing that as

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expected, anytime Elon Musk launches a

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product, there is a lot of criticism.

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So, let's get started with the criticism

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first and then let's talk about the

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upside. The goal in this video is to be

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as balanced as possible. Criticism

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number one, Tesla's robo taxi service is

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only available in this small portion of

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Austin, Texas. potentially a region of

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Austin, Texas that was essentially LAR

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based, mapped using other Tesla fleet

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vehicles. That's uncertain. That is not

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guaranteed to be clear. But what we do

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know is that the FSD vehicles that these

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robo taxis about 10 to 12 uh Model Y

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vehicles use is a beefed up robo taxi

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system uh or an FSD system that regular

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users do not have access to. That is one

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criticism. Second criticism obviously is

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that so far only people who are signing

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up and who are handpicked by Tesla staff

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are having the opportunity to actually

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enjoy these rides leading to some

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speculation that only people with a

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positive outlook for Tesla are actually

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getting to experience these rides rather

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than potentially third party reporters

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or otherwise. So far, uh, one clip that

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seems to be circulating on the internet

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is this, uh, potentially mistaken left

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turn here, uh, in the Tesla robo taxi

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where, uh, it looks like the car gets a

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little confused in the intersection,

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starts jittering a bit to the left. It's

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not unusual to see that when a car is

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following a lead vehicle. Uh, in fact,

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if you look closely, you could see what

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appears to be the navigation right here

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at the top right. So, the navigation

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indicates that the car should be

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proceeding straight and following the

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white vehicle right here. However,

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Tesla's FSD software does bias towards

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following a lead car. So, it's likely

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that in the very moment where it's lead

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car started turning left, you could

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actually see the desire to follow the

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lead car right here. It got a little

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confused and realized, wait, the lead

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car isn't going the direction I'm

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supposed to be going. And honestly, a

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lot of people are pooping on this as a

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Tesla failure. I actually I mean like

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it's obviously not good that it cut this

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yellow line here, but for what it is, I

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mean, it shouldn't be doing any of this,

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right? This I People do it, especially

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if you're in South Florida, okay? People

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cut those yellow lines all the time.

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But, you know, if this was if this is

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how it resolved it without intervention,

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obviously if there was a vehicle here,

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we would have expected it to stop. I

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mean, it's bad. It's not terrible, you

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know? So, so it's kind of like the

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Chernobyl line. Okay. Not great, not

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terrible.

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It's a little embarrassing, though. But

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in fairness, of the hundreds of miles of

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trips that they've already done with

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these, for this to be one of the worst

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clips, maybe not necessarily that

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terrible. Pretty decent. Now, of course,

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that's leading to a lot of outrage from

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Tesla fans. like this person. Third Row

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Theory says, "I'm sorry, Carlson, but

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I'm going to have to unfollow you at

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this point on all platforms. I really

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enjoyed your content since I discovered

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you during co, but your clear bias

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against Tesla is very off-putting and

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not very objective." So this is also not

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uncommon to see frustration amongst the

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the sort of criticism that gets more

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virality on the internet because as

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usual when mistakes happen especially

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with robo taxis you're going to get more

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criticism. Now, here's a post from Tesla

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AI's team that uh Elon Musk also shared

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on X, and I think I think it's great and

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very rewarding for the team to be able

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to share this image because it shows

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like you've got a whole department

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dedicated to this robo taxi launch. And

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it's a big deal for Tesla, like very

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motivating for all the Tesla employees,

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mind you, right? But of course, one of

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the first things that you realize uh

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when people get into these actual uh

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photos is that there appears to be

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a set of steering wheels at computer

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desks that could potentially be used to

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actually drive the vehicles. Uh from the

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location here, you can see apparently I

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mean it's hard to tell, but that looks

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like another one here. Maybe another one

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here, another one here. And this is

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probably the same thing that you see

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with Whimos where they have some kind of

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control center where they can kind of

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take over driving for the vehicle

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remotely if it runs into a problem. And

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honestly, it's probably a good thing if

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you want end up in some weird

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construction zone or whatever, you might

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uh you might want somebody who could

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just quickly hop in and take over,

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especially if it's, you know, an edge

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case scenario, right? Uh, here's a

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complaint from somebody who says, "Turns

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out the very much vaunted, never heard

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of that word before. Robo taxi quote

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unquote launch, well, it kind of already

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imputes some negative bi bias there, was

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really a quote mystery treasure hunt as

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instead of the robo taxi coming to you,

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you get to go on an exciting hunt for it

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as it gleefully hides some blocks away.

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Can't make this up." Uh, so it looks

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like they're kind of taking a video from

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a Tesla bull and it appears they kind of

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can't figure out where the Tesla parked.

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Now, this is it's unclear if they put

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the wrong pin in or uh what they ended

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up doing or if the car is just confused.

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I'm gonna unfortunately just assume

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without watching all this that it it's

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it's likely that this is not normal, but

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it is sort of a like a day one launch

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issue. And they do end up discovering

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the vehicle in this parking lot on the

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other side, which in fairness also to

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taxis, sometimes there are rules against

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just being able to stop on busy roads to

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pick people up. And if there's no

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available parking here, you know, the

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idea that, oh, let's just borrow the

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bike lane can can sometimes get cited. I

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don't know, you know, it it's obviously

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inconvenient for the passenger

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experience, right? Uh so not not not

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great, not terrible. There are also now

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these rumors uh and allegations that uh

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Tesla uh you know has individuals who

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sit inside of the car who will actually

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uh tightly hold the door release button

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uh to potentially emergency stop the

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vehicle. Uh, I would imagine there's

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some kind of safety component here where

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if somebody tries to open the door, the

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car just like stops, pulls over, and

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sets the hazards, right? Kind of ironic

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the Whimo in the picture right here. But

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anyway, there's, you know, somebody

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here. It could also just be like they're

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holding on to something, but then again,

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more and more people are posting figures

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of pe pictures of people with their

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thumbs on sort of the button over here.

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uh almost sort of implying that they

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like move their hand their their um

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finger off of the switch, you know, when

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when there's no concern or whatever. I I

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don't know. I mean, this seems a little

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extreme, a little nitpicky here, but it

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is an allegation that's happening.

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Another allegation right here is people

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are looking at the other point of view

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of the, you know, Tesla control room and

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they see here 112 rides and then 499

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miles driven. Uh, and so people are kind

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of making fun of that ratio. So if we

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zoom in on this, what you could see here

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is

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112 rides, 499. So 499 divided by 112

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works out to about 4.4 four miles per

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ride. I actually don't take much issue

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with this because frankly the hardest

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part of the taxi ride, much like in

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flying, hey, have I ever told you I'm a

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pilot? Is the takeoff and landing. So

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it's picking up your customer, parking

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where your customer is supposed to be,

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dropping off your customer, and that

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in-n-out engagement less so like I drove

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for 30 miles on the highway. Okay, Robo.

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Like Tesla's FSD has been capable of

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doing that since 2017. I bought a 2017

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Model X in 2017 and I was the first one

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of the first people on YouTube bragging

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about how amazing Teslas were and FSD

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was uh way before it was popular to brag

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about it. Uh that's not to say there

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weren't other people who were early as

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well or or even earlier, but it's just

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to say like this is not a surprise. Like

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getting highway miles is not a big deal

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for Tesla. Okay, that's not the game

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changer here. I'll tell you what the

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gamecher is for Tesla. First of all,

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this morning in the alpha report, before

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the market even opened, before it

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opened, in our alpha report, which which

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is available at meetke.com, you could

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join it. Use coupon code Fed uh JPAL,

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just J Ap.

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We mentioned that Tesla today on this

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robo taxi launch is highly likely to hit

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347. The 347 line is the way to go. and

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uh we literally skyrocketed it all the

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way up to 357 only to of course magnet

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down and consolidate around 347 because

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after all that's how Kevin's lines work.

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That said, what we really need to talk

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about is what happens when we look at

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Tesla revenues uh or FSD revenues uh

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inside of Tesla's valuation. I think

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that's what everybody wants to know,

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like how much is this actually worth to

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the stock on a fundamental basis. So

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what we're going to do is we're going to

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go through this spreadsheet here and I'm

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going to break it down for you. I want

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to start by saying that the valuation

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today we can calculate pretty easily

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just by using sort of a forward peg.

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However, you have to be really cautious

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about using forward pegs because what

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happens is you have to base them off of

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either your own growth rate or Wall

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Street's growth rate and both of them

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could be false. So, always remember that

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growth rate matters and use a consistent

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standard for when you're making

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estimates for a stock. Obviously, PEG

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ratios do you no good when something is

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experiencing large momentum. They're

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typically used for a fundamentalbased

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analysis. So, if I get the annual

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earnings expectations for Tesla and we

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go to let's see here we've got let's see

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2025 estimates of earnings per share.

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Ah, here we go. financials. Okay,

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perfect. So, 2025 we're looking at about

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a buck 89 of earnings. Okay. Well, the

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stock right now is trading for about

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$348 and we're looking at a buck 89 of

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earnings. That means right now we're

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trading for about uh 184 times. Well,

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Wall Street believes that Tesla's

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earnings, so their EPS over the next

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four years into the future could average

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38.8%.

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So we take that 184 divided by 38.8%

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equals Tesla right now is trading for

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about a 4.7 peg which is quite high.

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Technically if Tesla were trading as a

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manufacturer right now as a manufacturer

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Tesla would probably be trading for

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about $120 time $120 purely as a

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manufacturer and as a service provider.

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So like you know uh robo taxi or or some

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other higher margin business right

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they'd be trading for based on today's

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EPS they'd be trading for about $200. So

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there's a big premium built into there

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for something else. Roboaxi Optimus Hope

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whatever. So what I've done is I've gone

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ahead and put together a spreadsheet for

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2027.

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And this is my opinion of 2027 and how

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we get in here. So, first what I like to

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do is I'm going to assume that for 2027

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we're going to have uh 4 million

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vehicles. You know what? I'm going to

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actually move this over to the laptop

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because sometimes the laptop's just or

12:16

the computer rather desktop. It's a

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little easier to look at. Uh so we're

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going to take 2027 numbers for Tesla and

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we're going to assume that vehicle

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deliveries grow. Uh so we get back to

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potentially a lower interest rate

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environment. I actually think that's

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very likely given also that the Fed is

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kind of starting to give us some hints

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that they're freaking out a little bit

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about the potential labor market, which

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mind you, as long as like the people who

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buy Teslas can keep up their earnings,

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you might actually be in a place where

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hey, maybe uh maybe we could still buy

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Teslas, right? Uh that's going to be the

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important thing. So you ask yourself

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that when you're thinking about Tesla,

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who's buying Teslas when rates come back

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down? Well, hopefully everybody. That's

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the goal for any car company. Uh but

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rates coming down should be really

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supportive of Tesla. So let's go in

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here. So we're assuming 4 million

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vehicles uh at a revenue per vehicle of

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about 34,000.

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So this is relatively low. Uh but the

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average selling prices for the vehicles

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have been falling. And our latest

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revenue per uh vehicle has been

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somewhere around 40.5K.

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But we're lowering this a bit just

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because we do think over time these

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prices are trending down. We'll

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hopefully have some lower price vehicles

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introduced, but we can always adjust

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this back up. I do think keeping this

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$26 billion in here might be a risk.

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This is a high estimate for 2027. Losing

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uh battery and solar tax credits

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uh could hurt this substantially. So,

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it's worth knowing we probably have to

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lower the energy revenues down quite a

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bit. So, that's going to be something we

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have to pay attention to as well. And

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then what we're going to do is we're

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going to include

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uh the uh what's it called? Uh the robo

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taxi revenues. Okay. Why is my

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collaboration? Okay, screw it. We'll

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we'll go to the iPad stupid thing. It's

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uh classic classic Apple not being able

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to sync this stuff. So put a bit like

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put an asterisk on this due to uh due to

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the big beautiful bill, right? Loss of

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energy credits. Mind you, they also get

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manufacturing t tax benefits. So, you

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you want to be aware of that as well.

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Okay. Mind you, I'm also not really

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putting any revenues in here for

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insurance or semis or FSD. The reason I

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don't do that is because I put I assume

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FSD is part of the revenue per vehicle.

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Uh and uh a Tesla bot. I think we're

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still a little too early for this. And

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we're going to go throw robo taxi in in

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just a moment. But first, I want to show

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you what the numbers look like without

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robo taxi. So, this is 2027 and it

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assumes a massive growth in the energy

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business. And if I do this as a

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manufacturer, I could get this stock to

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about $300 per share as a manufacturer

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in 2027. This actually isn't bad if you

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think about it. 4 million vehicles at

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34K, 26 bill in energy, $300 stock.

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That's great.

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Now, what we want to see is how does

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robo taxi affect this, right? So, in

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order to see how robo taxi affects this,

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let's just assume for a moment we do a

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million rides at $15 a piece on average.

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A million rides would be huge, right? If

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if Tesla could pull off a million robo

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taxi rides safely, no issues, gamecher,

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but still from a revenue point of view,

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probably not very exciting. Why? Because

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if we assume a 70% margin, $15 million

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of, you know, $15 time 1 million and

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$4.5 million of expenses is actually not

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going to move the stock at all. Really,

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you go from 301. Let's see what it is.

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Let's make this zero again.

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So, I'll make that zero. It was 30178

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30167. It adds about what 11 cents to

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the stock. So doing a million $5 or a

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million $15 robo taxi rides, that's not

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where the money is. This is not where

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robo taxi makes money. Where Tesla makes

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money is this competing against Uber.

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Okay, Uber has about $90 billion of US

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revenue. Again, just the United States.

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The United States represents about 53%

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uh of their total revenues. uh and

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you've got about 7 million drivers

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worldwide. So assume somewhere around

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3.6 3.7 million Uber drivers in America.

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Tesla has a huge advantage here as does

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any frankly robo taxi company in that

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with a robo taxi you do not have to deal

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with some loser driver trying to turn

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off the air conditioning so they could

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save money on gas which is a terrible

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customer experience. You don't have to

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worry about the driver talking your ear

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off when you don't want to talk to them.

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And you don't have to worry about them

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driving like a loser because they're in

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a hurry to get to their next ride.

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You're going to get a computer where you

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control the AC and you don't have to

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talk to it.

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I I would love that. Okay. I I like

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because I believe that six to seven out

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of 10 times I get an Uber that has one

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of those problems. They want to save gas

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and so they make the experience

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miserable. They yap my ear off. They

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won't stop talking. Or they just drive

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dangerously and I feel like I'm in a

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roller coaster back there. It's nasty.

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Tesla has an advantage in being able to

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get rid of this. And so what you have to

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really do to to make this look beautiful

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is you have to assume that they could

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take share from Uber. So let's say for a

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moment uh Uber does three well Uber does

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three billion rides per quarter, 12

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billion rides per year. Uh and uh they

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got about $90 billion of annual US

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revenue. That's total potential robo

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taxi revenue. They still share that

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money. So that's not their income.

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That's not the company's income. That's

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their total sort of like you know how

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much gets transacted through their

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application. All right. So if you took

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10% of this, you'd have potentially $9

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billion of revenue. Uh and this is US

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and we're going to go with a 30% margin

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on this, right? Because you you're going

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to have staff, you're going to have

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repairs, you're going to have vehicle

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depreciation. The cars you put into the

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fleet are cars you're not paying. you're

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going to have charging, maintenance,

18:33

insurance, uh, supervisors, the app, you

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know, all the bull crap, whatever. So,

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what we're going to do is we're going to

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put $9 billion in here, and we're going

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to see how the spreadsheet changes from

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uh the $31 price target we had before.

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So, if I do 9 billion here, we

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automatically jump up to 2.7 in robo

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taxi expenses. That 30 is already in

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here. Great. Uh, and then what we find

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is Robo Taxi has the potential of

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adding, I kid you not, $69 to the share.

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That's priceless. I didn't even plan

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that. Uh, it has the chance of adding

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$69 uh to the share price of Tesla uh

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with 10% of Uber's

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uh market share. Now obviously this

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assumes uh 10% of Uber market share and

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uh appropriate licensing slash no major

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accidents right because obviously

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accidents could derail licensing and

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blah blah blah blah blah. So you can see

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that most of the company's stock

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is is probably still overvaluing just

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robo taxi unless of course you get a

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massive surge

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uh and you could get way more than 10%

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of Uber that you would get somewhere

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maybe around of US revenues 30% or

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something like that right that's where

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this could get really explosive like you

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basically have to replace Uber uh and

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the problem there is by that point, how

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much competition do you get? You know,

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is it going to be like are you still

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making $15 a ride on average? The

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average taxi rides 15. You know,

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obviously some are going to be 50, some

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are going to be five, right? So, it's

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just an averaging thing. Uh and and I

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would actually argue Teslas would be

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great for longer distance because

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they're so good at driving on the

20:26

highways. But anyway, the problem that

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you also have is this does include these

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sort of rich estimates for energy. So,

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if I just have these energy estimates

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for a moment, that's going to take $60.

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Not $60. That's going to take How much

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is that going to take out of this?

20:43

6930170.

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That took about 40 $39 out. That takes

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about $39 back out, right? So, you're

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kind of already building in some pretty

20:55

decent assumptions at the price where it

20:57

currently is. Now, if we go wild here

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and let's just leave in the high energy

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and let's say that Tesla can do, you

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know, there isn't a lot of margin

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compression and we could do 30% of the

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business that Uber does at a 30% margin.

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You know, you don't get the price

21:16

compression yet or whatever, whatever,

21:18

whatever. That could be huge for the

21:20

stock. You know, this could pump you.

21:23

you could get $200 share value at 30% of

21:28

Uber's US market share. It's it's it's

21:32

an interesting argument, right? But it

21:34

shows you just how much work you have to

21:36

do to get there. Because again, think

21:38

about it this way. If Tesla did 1

21:40

million Uber Uber rides at $15 a piece,

21:44

it'd be $15 million of rides.

21:47

That's nothing. Like Uber's doing

21:50

somewhere on 12 billion. They're doing

21:52

like a billion rides a month. A billion

21:55

rides per month. I don't even think I

21:58

could do the math on that on this

21:59

calculator. I can't. A billion rides per

22:01

month would work out well. I could have

22:04

done that in my head. I guess that would

22:06

work out to about 33 million rides a

22:08

day.

22:09

That means every hour in the US they're

22:13

doing 1.3 million rides. That seems

22:15

wild. Anyway, okay. So, let's see uh

22:19

what some of your comments are here.

22:21

Tesla will get permits at red states.

22:24

Cool. How many of your drivers are in

22:26

red states would be the next question,

22:27

right? So like how many Uber rides of

22:30

the uh $90 billion of total available

22:33

robo taxi or taxi revenue Uber makes in

22:36

the United States in a year, how much of

22:38

that is in red versus blue? That would

22:39

be worth looking at, right? Uh mind you

22:41

that Uber is also in 70 different

22:43

countries. So you the TAM is very huge,

22:46

right? Uh, somebody says, "I've been

22:49

watching your previous videos. Just want

22:50

to say pretty impressive." Oh, that's

22:52

awesome. Well, thank you. I'm I'm making

22:53

a Tesla video right now, so we'll have

22:54

to talk about other recommendations

22:56

later. Uh, let's see here. I want to see

22:59

some of these other somebody here says

23:00

Tesla to 8,000 per share by 2032. Let's

23:04

go. I have an opinion that uh rates will

23:10

be zero and potentially will be at

23:12

negative rates in 2032. So, I I don't I

23:16

don't uh I'm not surprised by that. Uh

23:19

somebody says you need to go to Austin

23:21

to test this out. I'm not going to

23:22

Austin unless they invite me. Uh you

23:24

have to be on like their weight list and

23:26

their their fancy thing here. I I would

23:29

do it. Uh it'd be I don't Do I really

23:32

want to go to Austin? I don't know that

23:33

I want to go to Austin. Um I could trip

23:36

it, I guess. Let's see here. Somebody

23:40

So, somebody here says, "I disagree with

23:41

your robo taxi evaluation for 10% of

23:43

Uber with scale and labor cost. Robo

23:46

taxi is three to four times higher." No,

23:48

no, no, no. You're you're forgetting

23:51

that I'm Okay, I want to be crystal

23:53

clear about this. I'm not including the

23:55

labor costs. I'm saying $90 billion of

23:59

Uber revenue is the entire taxi value

24:04

that they do in the United States in a

24:06

year approximately. That's not their

24:08

revenue where they already pay labor.

24:10

That's the total bill. The bill. Okay.

24:13

I'm not taking what Uber made in revenue

24:16

after they paid the workers or shared it

24:18

with people. I'm taking the total damn

24:20

number. Okay. Total. Okay. And then I'm

24:23

I'm literally taking that generous total

24:26

and I'm only taking 30% off for Tesla's

24:30

costs. So, I think I'm being very

24:32

generous here. Now, to actually get as

24:36

many rides as Uber does, well, you're

24:40

going to need vehicles, right? I mean,

24:42

in order to do, you know, a million

24:44

rides, I mean, if they're doing what, 33

24:47

million a day, they're doing a million

24:48

rides an hour. Damn, you need you need

24:50

like a million robo taxis out there

24:52

working 24/7 probably. Uh, which is

24:55

fine. You could do that, but it's going

24:57

to take your production a year or two to

24:59

really like actually create that many

25:00

robo taxis, assuming you have the

25:02

licensing or whatever else, right? The

25:04

problem though, and and this is the

25:06

biggest risk for robo taxis, is taxi

25:09

revenue isn't that large. Remember, when

25:12

you sell somebody a car at a 20% margin,

25:15

you're making 7,000 bucks. 78 7

25:17

to$10,000, maybe even more if you get a

25:19

Model S or Plaid. If you sell somebody a

25:22

taxi ride,

25:24

you know, every time you get a $15 ride,

25:27

you're making five. It's like the

25:29

margins are small, so you need to make

25:31

it up in massive volumes. And that's

25:34

where eventually you wonder like, well,

25:36

could Zuks and Whimo compete, but they

25:39

don't have the manufacturing piece.

25:41

That's one of the benefits that Tesla

25:42

has is manufacturing. Somebody says,

25:45

Kevin, how do you figure in the Lyft

25:46

acquisition? Well, I actually think it

25:48

would be very smart for Tesla to buy

25:49

Lyft because if they bought Lyft, they

25:51

would immediately have rides. Like,

25:54

nobody has to go download the Tesla app

25:56

to get a ride. They could do it through

25:57

the Lift app and then a Tesla shows up,

25:59

right? That would be fantastic.

26:02

Uh, let's see here. Let's see what some

26:05

of your other comments are. Tesla is

26:06

slowly turning into a services company.

26:08

Well, it ain't so far at all a services

26:12

company. In fact, my estimate on this

26:15

sheet right here has Tesla at $137

26:18

million of service revenue. And if I

26:22

remove robo taxi since this is just an

26:25

idea right now, uh that would be uh out

26:28

of the $177 billion of total revenue

26:32

that you we're sorting writing writing

26:34

up over here. Oh, sorry. Uh services are

26:36

actually only 6.8 billion. So 6.8

26:39

divided by 177. 6.8 divided by 177, not

26:44

including robo taxis. Services make up

26:46

like 3 to 4% of Tesla's revenue right

26:48

now. So, it's really hard to argue right

26:50

now that Tesla's a service company. I

26:52

get it because of, you know, insurance

26:54

and and the ideas of where we can go in

26:56

the future. Uh, so let's see what else

26:59

here.

27:02

Uber resets reviews. That's true. And

27:04

that's a scam, but they definitely do

27:05

that. Well, I shouldn't say they

27:08

definitely do that. is my opinion based

27:10

on what I've heard from Uber drivers or

27:13

people who work with Uber that they just

27:15

reset your review. Uh does that mean

27:17

that's 100% true? I don't know. I can't

27:20

fact check. But yes, I have heard that

27:21

they kind of reset the reviews and

27:23

that's why you never get into an Uber

27:24

with less than like a 4.8 star review.

27:26

It's not cuz they're good drivers.

27:28

It's because of it's a human business

27:32

and uh and and uh you know people people

27:35

just get a get a little reset or doodle

27:36

and it's over.

27:39

Somebody says, "Your analysis doesn't

27:41

matter. The market is emotions-based."

27:43

Well, that's true. The market in the

27:45

short term is emotions-based.

27:47

But as a long-term investor, I like

27:50

looking at a company like Tesla and

27:51

saying, "Okay, well, when is it valued

27:54

below my fundamentals, and that's when I

27:57

just start salivating."

28:00

Uh, let's see here. Somebody writes,

28:02

"One million cars times 30 rides per day

28:04

times 365 times 5year estimated life of

28:06

a car." smiley face. Well, I mean,

28:08

again, I don't we don't even have to

28:09

multiply that far. 30 rides per day, I

28:11

think, would be too little because that

28:13

would be 30. What are we doing? That's

28:15

30. Oh, maybe not. 30 million a day.

28:18

That's about what Uber's doing, right?

28:19

Yeah. Yeah. I think because we were

28:21

saying 33 million. Okay. Yeah, that

28:22

could work. So, 30. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

28:26

that's that's just like the math we were

28:27

doing, which is uh Uber's doing about a

28:29

bill uh rides in the US per month. Works

28:33

out to about 33 mil. So, yeah. Okay. No,

28:35

no, no. I I I think you're just sort of

28:36

back uh like running off of some of the

28:38

numbers that we were talking about.

28:39

Yeah, that's fair. That's a good way to

28:41

put it.

28:42

So, let's see here. Uh

28:46

somebody says, "Super slim margins."

28:48

Yes, I agree with that.

28:51

It is a very a super uh nominal margin

28:55

business. This is true. Tesla needs to

28:57

expand insurance. Yeah, they will.

28:59

That'll come.

29:02

Uh let's see.

29:08

I think that's all I got on Tesla.

29:11

I mean, I'm looking at the rest of your

29:13

comments here. Why not factor in Tesla

29:16

current multiple? After all, it will

29:18

always trade rich. No, it won't. Tesla

29:20

does not always trade rich. It

29:22

absolutely doesn't always trade rich.

29:25

Two years ago, I was trading for like a

29:26

one peg, you know. It definitely does

29:29

not always trade rich. Uh, so that's

29:31

that's a very very flawed mentality of

29:34

looking at fundamental analysis. If you

29:36

want to say that it's always going to

29:38

trade for a four or five peg, by all

29:40

means, go for it. I'm not going to put

29:43

my money on those pegs. Now, I'm not

29:45

saying like, oh my gosh, go sell. I'm

29:47

not That's not what I'm saying. I'm

29:48

saying new money, right? Uh, anyway. All

29:52

right. Uh, three members of the Iranian

29:56

Navy killed an Israeli air strike. Oo,

29:59

yikes.

30:00

That's my Tesla take. Why not advertise

30:02

these things that you told us here? I

30:04

feel like nobody else knows about this.

30:05

We'll we'll try a little advertising and

30:07

see how it goes. Congratulations, man.

30:09

You have done so much. People love you.

30:10

People look up to you. Kevin Praath

30:12

there, financial analyst and YouTuber.

30:14

Meet Kevin. Always great to get your

30:16

take.

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