Trump Adds Even MORE Tariffs
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All right, the new tariff rates are
coming out just moments ago. 25% tariffs
on the Philippines, 25% tariffs on Brun,
25% tariff on Malddova,
Iraq, in case you're wondering how much
trade we do with Iraq. Uh, not much.
You've got 25% tariffs on Moldova,
30% on Algeria,
uh, and the trade that Iraq engages with
the United States in is about 9.1
billion of goods. We exported about 1.7
billion to them.
Very, very small. 30% tariffs. This just
now coming through seconds ago. 30%
tariffs now on Libya as well.
So it looks like uh we're we're getting
sort of a broad application of more
larger tariffs that are uh multiples of
the flat 90-day pause reciprocal tariff.
Let's talk tariffs.
And that unleashed enormous economic
growth in this country. And so
preserving that as we go forward was
absolutely critical. But it certainly
demonstrates that when you have
predictability, you can do forward
planning. You know what you you're going
to do on production and input costs and
inventory and customer demand and your
supply chain. And with the way in which
these trade conversations have unfolded,
it's been the exact opposite of that.
And so I think when it comes to growth,
uh we see with the tax bill, we have
wind at our backs. That's a very
progrowth policy. And the way we have
approached the trade conversations has
created an environment whether it was
intended or not that has restrained
growth and uh as yet has not yielded the
great results that
I actually disagree with this guy that
the trade policy so far has restrained
growth. I actually think it's the
opposite. First of all, I totally agree
that trade or that the big beautiful
bill is stimulative. Whether you're a
Democrat or Republican, you should look
at this bill as government blowing
money, spending money to stimulate, you
know, in their ways, right? But this is
pure stimulus money and pure deficit
money printing is essentially what it
is. We're borrowing from future
generations to give to now. That said, I
this guy's idea that the economy
is somewhat had headwinds because of
tariffs, I think, is wrong. I think the
stock market had headwinds in April, but
not the economy. The economy actually
pulled forward demand. People bought
cars who previously wouldn't have bought
cars. Uh people moved up their purchases
of computers or machinery or inventory
for their businesses for the fear that
we were about to have these long
tariffs. Now, tariffs keep getting
kicked down the road. Peter Navaro first
time in in three months was on TV
running the circuits this morning on Fox
News and Bloomberg later. Uh but it's
interesting because what's actually
happened is the more we've dragged out
tariffs, despite the fact that now we're
talking about 50% extra tariffs on
copper, doubling steel tariffs, and 200%
pharmaceutical tariffs, the more we
delay tariffs, the more we actually kind
of use tariffs as stimulus. So, in a
weird way, the big beautiful bill has
been stimulative and then the threat of
tariffs coming has been stimulative
because you're getting people to spend
money that they may have delayed
spending previously. So, you kind of
have these two stimulative forces that
have are now converging supporting this
economy. Now, could that break if we
actually start hitting real trade, you
know, tariffs? Maybe. But then again,
look at this piece from the Wall Street
Journal. This kind of makes me think
that we're just going to be kicking down
the this this can of tariffs for years.
And if we do that for years, you're kind
of constantly telling people like, "Hey,
may as well keep building up inventory
cuz you don't know what I'm going to do
next week." It's kind of like in a weird
broken way the perfect amount of fear
you need to get people to keep spending
to drive the economy. Take a look at
this. Trump delayed reciprocal tariffs
after Bessant wanted more time on deals.
President Trump decided to delay the
implementation of so-called reciprocal
tariffs to August 1st after advisers
including Bessant told him he could get
more trade deals with more time.
I kind of doubt it because I still think
we're up against this coalition of the
the nonwilling to participate with the
US sort of unilateral terrorists. I
think Vietnam doesn't really have much
of a choice, especially since they've
become such a trans shipper shipper for
Chinese goods. Our trade with Vietnam
has 3xed over the last 5 years, you
know, following Chinese uh tariffs uh in
in tariff warfare 1.0 in 2018. But
remember, trade deals can take years to
actually get done. And in a weird way,
if it continues to motivate people to
build inventory or spend money, it kind
of good for GDP. At some point, the bill
comes due. You know, you can't kind of
hold this over people's head of, oh,
keep building inventory, keep building
inventory. At some point, people stopped
building inventory. At some point, the
tariffs hit and at some point people
stopped spending. That point's on now.
But anyway, administration officials,
including Bessant, felt as if they were
making progress on deals with several
trading partners such as India and the
European Union as Trump's previous
deadline approached. An initial pause on
reciprocal tariffs was set to lapse at
12:01 a.m. Wednesday until Trump on
Monday further postponed the
implementation date for three weeks.
Right. The weekend before his Monday
announcement, Trump deliberated in phone
calls and private conversations with
allies. Okay. And what did he say?
According to people familiar with
matter, Trump was weighing whether he
should give a new August deadline or
send out letters without a date and
simply a declaration of tariffs. Oh,
interesting. So he was considering not
having this August 1st delay at all.
Trump had mused publicly about moving
away from notching agreements to avert
tariffs. His inclination to let tariffs
snap into effect shifted after he heard
from Besson that some deals were close
but needed more time. Besson was a key
aid who convinced uh Trump on the
initial 90-day pause in April as uh
Liberation Day tariffs rattled global
markets. So Besson has really become
this this voice of I hate to say it sort
of reason. He's still you know a knee
bender for Trump. Let's be clear about
that. And you know ignores the longer
run implications that uh tariffs can
cause which we really don't see yet
obviously because we've been on pause.
But he's definitely a lot more
reasonable than sort of the Navarro
types who who are, you know, going to be
kind of your hardliners on this is
great, we're making so much money, more
tariffs now, no delays.
Over exaggerating a little bit here, but
anyway, White House spokesperson uh said
that the US is receiving heavy interest
to lower tariffs, but Trump has been
clear the United States holds the cards.
Right. Right. The US holds the cards. Uh
this is like what we've heard with Paris
where they're like, you know, well,
France basically, hey, you know, we'll
consider a deal, but you need to exempt
certain of our industries. And and here
what we're getting is uh no, no, no, no.
Like Trump wants bigly tariffs because
he does brag about the revenues. You see
this on truth or in media reports. Trump
loves the revenue that's coming in for
from these tariffs. Uh but you know
that's on limited levels of tariffs with
substantial pauses and still front
running of supplies holding the economy
up. Makes you wonder when that that bill
comes due. But anyway, in phone calls,
Trump told aids and allies he was
frustrated with the lack of progress
being made with countries. Yeah, so so
was everyone blaming those nations for
not coming to the table with offers that
in his view were good enough for the US,
said some of the people familiar. Trump
argued privately he was riding a wave of
momentum from signing the big beautiful
bill and bombing of Iran and wanted to
ride those perceived wins to victories
on trade policies.
Win win. All we do is win. Nobody knows
winning more than Donnie.
Maybe except for Elon. Oh, wait. Oh, too
soon. Too soon. Uh, in the end, Trump
decided to send out the letters along
with delays as a negotiating tactic to
ek out lastminute concessions from
trading partners. People familiar to the
matter said, "Yeah, I mean, this is very
much like liberation 2.0, except the
market doesn't care right now because
the market looks at this and says, "All
right, whatever." You know, liberation
1.0 was a buy the dib, so we're not
going to react to Trump's nonsense on
tariffs here. Let's wait to actually see
some damage show up, and that could take
months to show up. Commerce Secretary
Lutnik said on CNBC that 15 to 20 tariff
letters would be expected within the
next two days. Trump, a vocal advocate,
says tariffs will start being paid on
August 1st. No change to this date. Uh,
a letter means a deal. He said what?
During a cabinet meeting Tuesday, he
asserted that his letters to other
nations constituted a pact. A letter
means a deal. Wait, that's the opposite
of what he told us last month. He said
that if we can't make a deal, we'll just
send them a letter and tell them what
they're going to pay. Now all of a
sudden, a letter means that they've
struck a deal. Well, that's the opposite
of what he said last month. So that's
fugazi.
Trump on Tuesday also previewed other
tariffs imposed under a separate legal
authority, saying he would impose 50%
tariffs on copper, 200% of pharma,
setting national security concerns
companies would be given up would be
given up to a year and a half to
relocate pharma supply chains before the
levies would take effect. Again, delay,
delay, delay, delay. Year and a half on
pharma. Lnik later said that the copper
announcement would be posted during the
day, but it hadn't been as of Tuesday
night. Uh so this is the expectation
that we're going to get this. Trump also
played down the prospect of every
country getting a deal to avoid his
steep reciprocal tariffs. We've got 200
countries. We can't meet with 200
countries, he said during the meeting.
It is also the opposite of what they
originally said because they're like,
oh, we're busy. We're meeting with all
these different countries. We're going
to have 90 deals in 90 days. We barely
had two and one was with a surplus
country,
UK. Uh reciprocal tariffs are targeting
uh countries the White House deems bad
actors on trade. uh they face a steeper
rate in lie of the 10% global baseline.
White House said reciprocal tariff rate
won't apply to products hit by sectoral
tariffs.
Uh however, some of these are going to
be difficult for customs to you know
deal with and soar when when trade
actually comes through. Anyway,
interesting that you know Bessant is
basically the delay in chief man.
uh you know stocks pair gains as people
wait for their clarity on tears. You
know it is interesting when you look at
the cues they've done very well in the
face of these recent sort of new April
9th announcements. There's really been
zero panic over here. You've had these
basically flat days right around 552.
It's kind of where we sit now.
It's not bad. You you got to give it to
the stock market. The stock market just
doesn't really care right now about
Trump's tariffs. Uh, and probably won't
until we actually get some impact. But
then again, if Besson has anything to
say about it, we would just expect even
more delay.
Why not advertise these things that you
told us here? I feel like nobody else
knows about this.
We'll we'll try a little advertising and
see how it goes.
Congratulations, man. You have done so
much. People love you. People look up to
you.
Kevin Praath there, financial analyst
and YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always great
to get your take.
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