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Spending $100 Million on Real Estate: Fremont, CA [HouseHack Trip 10]

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I found it it's a model too

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that's another one they're everywhere so

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we're in Hayward it's uh on the East Bay

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the thing about like the Bay Area is

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it's like 20 or 30 cities that people

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just call the Bay Area you can find

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wedges everywhere we can find wedges

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everywhere except in San Francisco a

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wedge like starts at 1.5 the issue is

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rentability after the wedge it has to

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make sense rent wise and if you're

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paying 2 million dollars for a house

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that's worth three that's fantastic for

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the point of view of a wedge but if it

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rents out for you know Seven Grand it's

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just not gonna work what's dim sum oh

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it's good food because it's dim sum all

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day I've never heard of that what is it

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no is it like

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I actually love Oakland I love the

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culture I love like it's beautiful the

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food is amazing it's just the crime I

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feel unsafe let's get some coffee did

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you even use acorns bro bro I don't have

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acorns man what am I doing you didn't

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even Round Up 40 cents in this over the

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next 40 years

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40 Years of thirty dollars in your

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future dude at a compounded rate that's

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like 800 dollars look we got a handsome

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guy coming through baby

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I'm gonna go look at some real estate in

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Hayward and Fremont if we're lucky we'll

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see Elon highly doubt that but is that

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Elon Musk oh no it's just Sebastian

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whoops my bad look at the little dog

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it's got a little sweater get in buckle

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up I'm about to learn y'all about real

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estate

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population in hayward's about 158 000

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poverty rates only eight percent

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probably because quite frankly to live

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in Hayward at all you can't be in

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poverty we're looking at homes out here

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to see what's close to the Tesla

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gigafactory Fremont we have power lines

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that's for sure

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these are cable TV it's nice to meet you

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how do you guys fare with investors and

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rents and stuff what do you see whether

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that's San Fran like SF or out here so I

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own properties in the midwest it's a

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better cash flow yeah yeah exactly here

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there's no cash I generally speaking

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unless you have like 50 60 down there

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just like two percent yeah it's a crappy

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cash on cash return the value here is in

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speculation of appreciation luxury flips

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remodel long-term appreciation you can't

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build anymore here it's one of the

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strictest places as far as like building

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permits or Hayward specifically is

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location wise one of the most epic

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locations because it is no traffic 30

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minutes to Silicon Valley 30 minutes to

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Oakland 40 minutes or so to San

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Francisco you have Bart here right so

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you have the freeways that'll take you

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there you have Bart here which is like

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the public train whatever Bay Area Rapid

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Transit yeah yeah yeah and so that'll

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take you to downtown SF in about 30 40

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minutes

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um if you don't get beat up by a

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homeless person

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um

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they don't beat up that's a joke they

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just yell at you and stuff they're

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mostly verbal attacks

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uh hashtag not guaranteed yeah yeah

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definitely not guaranteed oh no they're

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getting they're getting more aggressive

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nowadays this one's listed at a million

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bucks wow they're in my opinion they're

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out of their mind popcorn ceilings gotta

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scrape those new floors paint

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um water heaters new garage door has no

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motor

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um but it's a newer garage door so I'm

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like put in a motor needs new windows I

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would probably do that I would probably

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get rid of the bars obviously that

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signifies like oh danger you know to

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people who are coming through has has

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that was did that used to be a problem

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in Hayward has that been changing I

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would say that Hayward is again like

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socioeconomic Blue Collar you know below

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median price point area more tenant

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filled than a lot of the other uh areas

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of the Bay Area right the tape looks so

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beautiful so on terrible well I mean if

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you look in the kitchen it's all warped

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and damaged the lights right there

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because I've always wanted what you

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don't like the 299 like a porcelain uh

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uh hold yeah it's the bulb those are

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like 299 at Home Depot but the cabinets

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are actually not terrible I mean the

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fact that you've got them going from

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where they are to the ceiling you can I

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mean I don't know if the market would be

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okay with it but I mean I I would be

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okay with painting this uh I I think

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these are actually in great shape you

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know it it looks gross but I mean really

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if you take the hardware off give it a

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little sand maybe some new hinges and

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spray these nicely this is a fantastic

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cabinet I mean for me these would be an

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excellent candidate for painting you get

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rid of the backsplash on the countertop

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the sink of the appliances start over

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there but new hardware and paint on

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these caps they're in great shape so but

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yeah I mean you know this probably has

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to get rebuilt you know this has had

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some water leakage in the past and so

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you would rebuild that it's not a big

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deal the floor's got to go it's pretty

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pretty beat up over here especially in

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the kitchen but this is your highest

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wear and tear area here this floor plan

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is funky though I mean you couldn't

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touch I like the fact this is a million

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dollars and it's this is the floor plan

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right it's also kind of crazy because

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you've it's like they've done something

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to this house where it's been added onto

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but this is the hallway and the hallway

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goes into your vanity so if you're

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brushing your teeth over here and

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somebody walks in and you're like oh

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I'll be right there the problem with

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with NorCal and this was my concern is

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that it's tough to get get properties to

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cash flow at all so really for everyone

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that one really good deal you buy in

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door Cal in a great neighborhood you'd

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probably have to buy five or six in

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Arizona or Vegas or maybe even you know

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two or three in the midwest to offset

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this so you could get a blended cash

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flow are you playing PM do you play yeah

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what do you play Beethoven go

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okay holy I'm blown away yeah well

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you want me to oh bro come on not on

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camera

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Sam this is how the properties over time

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get their foundations really messed up

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too this is where you get the rot right

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where the rain basically splashes up

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against and then you get this is all

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rotten over here yeah you've got this

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person over here who's basically doubled

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the size of their home with a massive

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addition they've done a massive addition

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to the top nowhere near the size of this

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but it's actually a great sign when you

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see people adding on because it means

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they love their neighborhood and they

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don't want to leave most buyers in most

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areas that I sell homes like most of the

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people coming through need to be close

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to the parents a San Francisco Bay Area

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will always be the Bay Area and people

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will always want to live here where else

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are you going to build anymore I almost

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bought one of the uh the Painted Ladies

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and I saw that video oh you saw no way

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dude I made an comment about I'm

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sorry oh dude what did you say don't

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tell me what'd you say you were talking

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about doing a condo conversion about

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buying it and turning it into two units

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turning a condo conversion I commented I

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said you can't do a condo conversion in

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San Francisco because the lottery is

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gone and the only way you can do it now

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you know the person who bought that

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Painted Lady worked at Twitter just got

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laid off Saturday two years and 500

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Grand of paperwork just to get approval

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I think the cost of rhinos were

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somewhere in like five six million

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dollar range is crazy Mikey tell us more

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about Hayward what is this place so like

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where's the best area we could buy homes

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and just have the best appreciation if

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we wanted to pump up the numbers of

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appreciation a little bit Palo Alto

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that's a uh I don't know about Palo Alto

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it is already very expensive and

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everything's already kind of in good

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shape I don't think there's like we're

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gonna find many wedges or many fixers in

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Palo Alto it's always a wedge there's

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always if there are flippers there is

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always a wedge so what you're saying is

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there's zero flipping in Palo Alto no

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flippers uh the flippers are gone

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the area it's pure speculation even he

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even said himself so it's all

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appreciation yeah low caps still

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everything so crime and stuff so like if

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people do happen to leave this area even

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more and it does happen to get worse

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then you're left holding the bag and it

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might appreciate though it could do what

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it's done for the past 20 years but

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right from an investing standpoint I

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don't I wouldn't invest it comes down to

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the location and it is I would say one

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of the most affordable cities in the

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East Bay that's not Oakland where like

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you're literally worried about getting

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shot like he was he was kind of joking

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around but I've literally stayed up at

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night before looking through my blinds

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because there's a couple dudes with guns

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across the street and they broke into

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the store and I'm just making sure they

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don't come for the house next so like

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that was a very real fear in East

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Oakland yeah

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Property Management here oh God you'd be

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scared like if you did happen to get

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some bad tenants like you'd be scared to

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play for your life dude you scared for

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your life and your property yeah can't

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evict Provo for example you had people

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who move or who were buying property

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there because they could rent out the

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rooms they knew that they could rent out

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the rooms so they were willing to pay a

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higher price for the properties because

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they're like I'm gonna get higher cash

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flow I worry that here in the Bay Area

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you're getting people who are like I

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will buy a home here because I believe

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the appreciation is going to be massive

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and hugely so you're almost prepaying

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for some of that appreciation kind of

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like why are you paying 700 grand for a

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dump in Provo well you're pre-paying for

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all the cash flow you're potentially

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going to get uh why are you pre-paying a

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million dollars for you know a dump in

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Hayward oh well because you're prepaying

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for the potential appreciation that's

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called a wood Shake roof your insurance

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premiums are about 3x because those

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things light with a cigarette that was

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probably built in the 40s

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really well detached single car ah no

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that's a double car that's a two car

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right there wow there's a lot of

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variants over you see that adobe style

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home right there I bet you that's 20s

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with the detached garage in the back

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yeah this could be going down into 20s

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over here who's the second person uh

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That's Mike

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is they work together Mike Hunt yeah my

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name is Mike hawk or my friends call me

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Little Mikey I'm taller lying down see

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and that's always the thing in these

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older neighborhoods you get somebody

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who's done a lot of improvement I mean

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but that's also a potential risk factor

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because how do you comp I mean obviously

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they've done a lot of work they've got

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the newer roof they spent a lot of money

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on that type of shingle you can see it's

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like a two to three colored shingle

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that's by Design as opposed to uh you

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know a typical roof like this one which

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they probably spent some nice money on

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that house as well they've got sort of

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the typical uh you know blue style

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shingle you could actually see those two

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homes right next to each other the one

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on the right has the multi-color all

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both of these homes dual pane windows

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nice paint jobs on the outside uh the

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multi-color is more expensive so they've

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done it over here with even a larger

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shingle to make it look like an older

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kind of shake and the stone work they've

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done but the issue is the more you get

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these customizations the harder it is to

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also comp these homes because every home

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on the street is starting to look

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different even though they were all

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potentially built by the same Builder

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some of them like that one has an add-on

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above the one car garage

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uh you know some of them have one car

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garage and some of them are detached

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some of them are attached some of them

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like this one has expanded to a two-car

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garage you can actually see here one car

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garage here two car garage and so you

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have to adjust for so much stuff it does

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increase your risk as well uh because

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then you might be overpaying misaligning

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with the console this is why you could

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never use cost per foot if you ever hear

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somebody in single family real estate on

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cost per square foot bad sign

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see but then here's potentially your

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wedge like the overgrown yard and then

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see that has not been painted in about

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50 years on the side over here the water

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heater's got a bunch of junk on it to

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where the vent has been bent over you've

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got orange trees everywhere so you know

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this place is like they're rats

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everywhere on this place I guarantee you

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this place is rats everywhere okay so

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what is it is somebody pass away or oh

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those are my favorite the almost horror

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style nobody's pretty much there yeah

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okay oh a good old laughing plaster on

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the homes out here yeah these are

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definitely 40 or this is probably more

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like 20s I mean with this almost Spanish

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style uh 1929 29. yeah yeah I mean the

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fireplace gives it away and even the the

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sort of coved ceiling over here that's

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gorgeous I mean these are actually

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really nice homes obviously it's not

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with all the junk that's in it and then

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you've got some kind of water intrusion

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this whole window is just shot I mean

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this is probably all mildew well I mean

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Stone laugh and plaster but still

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fantastic I mean I love this kind of

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stuff this this is easy for me I yeah

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yeah seriously looks like is

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you know this is a this is such an

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incredible sink actually they and see I

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mean these are the sort of the the

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little details that you don't see

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anymore uh in uh in newer cabinets I

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mean these these hinges over here so is

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it normal you all have basements over

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here really depends I mean this is more

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of just it could be just like storage

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because it's not below grade you could

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see that you have an exit actually yeah

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you're right so you said there's a

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toilet that somebody threw in here I'm

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sure it's permanent that's the half

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bathroom Christian you want to show off

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the the half bath we got over here with

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the single wall Construction

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Wall that they threw up definitely 100

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uh this is not enough clearance you mean

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this is not the Adu

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we run into this all the time uh you

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know garages uh basement areas just

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anything below that they can add square

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footage oh that part down there yeah and

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you also run into deals like this though

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often you just get like just people

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who've moved on so to speak uh in the

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older homes and then this is again this

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is an off-market opportunity so this is

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something that most of the Public's not

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seeing so this is a great opportunity to

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come in and see if you can work a deal

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and you know snag it before they do any

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work to it oh yeah he's a little bit of

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work yeah yeah but I love it uh yeah

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that's that's fantastic so now there's a

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staircase here I feel like back in the

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20s they didn't do this but then again

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this is such a I feel like this is built

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almost on a slope and that's why maybe

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we have that a little bit Yeah okay

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exactly but right above you you can see

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same kind of leaks mold it'll do yeah

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yeah we'll just spray some paint and

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it'll be fine

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you've got the rat droppings next to the

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scale I feel like rats died on that

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scale oh this used to be a sink yeah so

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there was a sink here too so originally

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probably this home was a 2-1 right yeah

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yeah yeah I would agree we added that uh

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half excuse of a half bathroom

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downstairs

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um this room is is really wild oh they

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for sure cooked meth here

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that's where the breaking bad stuff

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happened wow Kevin let's cook

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hey look at the old luggage traditional

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luggage I love it

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yeah yeah here's your thumbnail

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yeah this is all two one you got the old

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picture rail up here

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well that's because you have uh laugh

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and plaster walls are really hard to

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hang things on so you would hang them by

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a wire off the picture rail wow goodness

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gracious Cafe pictures it's always

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interesting seeing uh people's things

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probably buy something like this without

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even thinking about it for more than 20

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seconds like yeah yeah this is this is

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awesome I would not buy anything other

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than this with like a huge margin of

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safety huge margin yeah this is a huge

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margin safety which is great but do you

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want to be in Hayward in the first place

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that's the other thing so like long run

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does it make sense to have the low cash

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flow and the headache right because

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that's the other thing is all the render

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that has to go into that is a hell lot

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of headache so apparently this place is

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a flip let's see what it has so what do

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you think of Harvard Heyward is that

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nice I like it it's more affordable some

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of the neighborhoods is a little spicy

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right right so I mean you've got you've

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got like a creek over here you've got a

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lot next to you to be developed you've

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got somebody who's added onto or turned

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a garage into what looks like maybe a

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four Plex right here then you've got the

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apartment building here massive

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apartment building over here and this

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apartment building's got a little rust

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what tenant wants to live here next to

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all this well convenience I mean it's

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good location as far as like just

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commute just into SF just in general

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yeah

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because the bridge is close to here yeah

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of course well Hayward in general is on

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the bridge yeah exactly so okay

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on the street here like we were there

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are two units here yeah this is a duplex

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oh okay so you could because that was

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the garage I'm assuming that's no longer

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the garage then because it has a

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bathroom window in it yeah we're like

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why is that in the garage all right

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let's take a peek let's see what they

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did all right let's see the duplex oh

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well they did a nice job I mean visually

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uh this looks quite nice so what's in

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here oh this is just another bedroom

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this was your grocer that's not a

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bathroom window they put a very small

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window there's no way that could be

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permitted

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maybe no I don't think so I don't think

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so because this is a bathroom window and

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the problem is that windows and bedrooms

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need uh need enough egress so you need

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enough square footage to be able to get

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out you couldn't even get out so that's

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really interesting that kind of makes me

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think this whole garage conversion was

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probably not permitted uh just based on

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yeah what happens if you do something

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that's not permanent like what's the

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worst thing like they could do well if

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you have tenants the tenants could sue

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you for all the rent back that they paid

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and then you you have to go through Code

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Compliance so they double all your fees

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yeah it's just not not in California not

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not like that where is the second unit

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has anybody found it

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oh yeah oh let's take a peek oh good so

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okay oh yeah you're right oh interesting

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wow the heater's been running in here

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oh wow trying to burn the place down

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somebody was trying to do an insurance

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claim yeah yeah seriously right

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oh man yeah hey you guys want to come to

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sauna with me

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I'll start stripping yeah let's not take

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it off is this for the YouTuber the only

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fans which one are we recording right

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now let's post on both

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I don't know man I mean I know we picked

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Hayward but

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I'm not jumping up and down at least

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these guys do the whole Bay Area eh you

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know how this is Grandma's house in

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Grandpa's house they haven't driven in

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so long that front tire has been flat

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for years and the pet outside of the

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home hasn't been painted forever you got

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the older Windows right here I don't

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even know how they get upstairs it's

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very looked like you had some 80s no

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that Arch is like 70s that's the 70s

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Arch here like late 70s maybe mid to

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late we'll find out I always like the

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challenge even if I'm wrong that's 70s

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man that's 70s uh this one's a 1979. oh

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yes

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79 late 70s yeah oh yeah well this would

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have given it away if I just went inside

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I would have known right away 70s with

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the rock yeah I mean stuff like this I

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love with the like the uh you know water

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intrusion and the the ceilings I mean

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stuff we could do stuff like this all

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day long what's cool about the floor

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plan on this one you can knock this down

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pretty much it would be totally worth it

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to have this be like an open kitchen uh

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living room family room floor plan I

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would just get rid of it and just make

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it part of the backyard make it a nice

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backyard oh these oh it's these old

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rooms yeah these guys always leak after

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like 10 years they just start leaking

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these are easy reduced oh the old

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wallpaper everywhere and see because you

18:10

put you put wallpaper in the bathroom it

18:12

all just basically starts wanting to

18:14

come up uh although that could also be

18:16

thick texture that's back there oh they

18:18

rented rooms over here that's what they

18:20

did these were room rentals yeah that's

18:22

how they locked the double lock these

18:24

there well that's one way to hold up the

18:26

house

18:28

two nails and a and a two by six yeah a

18:31

little a little plywood exposed plywood

18:34

yeah this is not a rundown neighborhood

18:35

but I do see the freeway right there so

18:37

welcome to Fremont I don't know anything

18:39

about Fremont do you need a gun no okay

18:41

no not at all Fremont is a huge Indian

18:43

Community okay so it is like I think

18:46

some people call it like little Mumbai

18:47

or something like that basically it's

18:49

very similar to Hayward but maybe homes

18:51

are a little bit newer neighborhoods are

18:52

a little bit nicer and much better

18:53

School District fantastic yeah I I this

18:56

is like straight out of the 90s

18:58

I mean I know this is older but

19:01

yeah yeah this is very

19:04

this is easy actually this probably is a

19:06

90s kitchen nice little three and two a

19:10

normal floor plan yeah exactly oh yeah

19:12

they did these in the 90s no no somebody

19:14

cared about this house I mean this is

19:16

like the perfect kind of thing because

19:17

the Cosmetics are old right but like the

19:19

person who owned this property cared

19:21

about it all right guys if you don't

19:22

mind a little yeah absolutely let's do

19:24

it it's a play appreciation yeah

19:28

um

19:29

so my dad said before he left her family

19:33

mine said I'm gonna go grab cigarettes

19:35

I'm just kidding I'm just kidding I

19:37

never met him go ahead

19:39

how do people get in touch with you man

19:41

and what shall we go into for The Improv

19:43

tonight Joe poliak my friends call me

19:45

Joe swolliak Rise homes rise homes local

19:48

San Francisco Bay Area real estate agent

19:50

I got my main man Mike sunitsky also Top

19:52

Dog agent on my team oh contact

19:54

everything is Joe poliak so at Joe

19:56

poliak um at Mike sinitzki and at rise

19:59

homes this is where the that Tesla

20:01

employee filmed himself like having the

20:04

FSD crash into one of those and it like

20:06

slightly scratched his bumper It's

20:08

probably that one right there and then

20:09

he got fired for posting about it and

20:11

then you interviewed him

20:13

yeah

20:15

just yeah pretend like you work here go

20:17

from where like I've been before I know

20:19

we're allowed

20:21

why are there so many Teslas here this

20:23

is where customers drive up and pick up

20:24

their cars

20:25

so this is employee parking here okay

20:27

perfect

20:28

yeah this was pretty close to uh the

20:31

house we just looked at it's a model too

20:33

convertible there it is that bro here we

20:36

go yeah yeah do it dude is that the

20:40

Tesla Model too yes yeah he said yes

20:46

I'm buying call as soon as we get back

20:48

there's another one they're everywhere

20:52

wow so there's already more of those on

20:55

the road that there are lucids

20:58

all right we're out here at the Hayward

21:00

Executive Airport pretty nice out here

21:03

how'd you like it Connor okay all right

21:05

that's roughly how we felt about Hayward

21:07

is I mean uh Fremont was fantastic

21:09

Fremont was great we got to drive by the

21:11

uh the Tesla gigafactory there and uh

21:14

and then now we're leaving

21:16

we got kicked off the plane foreign yeah

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