CNN *Freaking* on Trump & Firing Fed Chair Jerome Powell [Explained]
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CNN is freaking out that the Federal
Reserve might get destroyed by Donald
Trump in fact they say exactly that in
their article entitled the Federal
Reserve as we know it could soon be
turned on its head this was published
today and it pictures a side photo of
Drome Powell now we'll go into the
details of what they're concerned about
and how Donald Trump could fire Jerome
Powell or if he does what that could
mean for Federal Reserve Independence
but what we've got to analyze first is
is it even possible for Donald Trump to
fire Jerome Powell after we ask is it
possible then we have to ask ourselves
okay well whom and why would there be a
replacement uh so with whom would drum
get replaced and why would there be a
replacement and then we'll have to
evaluate what does CNN actually have in
terms of a concern and is there any
valid basis for this so let's start is
it possible for Donald Trump to fire
Jerome Powell well as somebody who
studies the fed and probably more than
Nick T does although I'll give respect
to Nick T he basically says we're
getting a 25 basis point cut tomorrow uh
it is worth noting that the Federal
Reserve Act does allow a president to
remove a Fed governor for cause now keep
this in mind there are seven fed
Governors one of them sits on the chair
of the Board of Governors and there are
12 more Bank presidents so in total you
usually have a total board with
Governors and presidents of about
19 uh but uh let's understand this for a
moment if a president is allowed to
remove somebody like drw Powell for
cause how is cause defined well actually
pretty dang broadly and we know anything
that's defined pretty dang broadly is
subject to Donald Trump's interpretation
and we know that Donald Trump is going
to interpret it to mean whatever the
hell he wants for cause is generally
regulated as uh some form of
inefficiency in governance neglect of
Duty or mal fence well inefficiency
frankly you can make plenty of arguments
about the inefficiencies of monetary
policy especially if the country ends up
entering into a slow lower jobs growth
environment which that alone could argue
for either a recession or replacing
drone Powell after all the Federal
Reserve has a dual mandate stable prices
and maximum employment and if employment
is going negative then you could argue
the FED is either being inefficient or
they're doing something wrong which
would be malici Mal excuse me or or just
straight up neglect quite frankly you
could just allege all three of those
fire Jerome Powell picks somebody else
and by the time it gets litigated in
courts which tend to now broadly side
with Donald Trump well let's just say
you're going to end up with a different
fed president so is it possible
absolutely now is it likely and with
whom would Donald Trump replace drum pal
well I think whether or not it's likely
depends on what kind of economy Donald
Trump inherits Nick T talked about
exactly this early earlier today on Fox
Business now I'll save you the 7-minute
video because while he basically said
we're getting a 25 BP cut tomorrow you
know quarter percentage point cut uh and
we'll get a lot of wait and see Nick T
was very reasonable to point out that
hey we don't exactly know what kind of
economy we're going to get under Donald
Trump because some of it is out of
Donald Trump's control we have
expectations about tax policy and tariff
policies and potentially inflation or
rates but that doesn't necessarily mean
that our expectations are going to align
with reality in fact frequently the
opposite happens so let's think for a
moment if Donald Trump as Nick T says
inherits a productivity boom and GDP
continues to grow well we might actually
be able to pay off our debt or reduce
our debt expenditures as a per
percentage of GDP and we could go into a
relatively positive period of economic
growth which is generally good for
everyone if however Donald Trump inh
it's a more recessionary economy which
is possible by January February when he
takes over it is entirely possible that
Jerome Powell is going to find himself
stuck between a rock and a hard place do
we cut faster do we go to 3% do we go to
2% 1% do we go to zero and we can all
anticipate that Donald Trump is going to
demand zero but not only is Donald Trump
going to demand zero he's going to
demand exactly what Rick santoli from
CNBC was freaking out about this morning
when he was interviewing a commodity
well a volatility Trader over at the uh
Commodities and Futures Trading
commission and Rick Santo's like wait
what do you think the fed's going to do
and the guy's like qwi we're going to go
back to QE that's quantitative easing
and Rick was freaking out over this he's
not a big fan of the Federal Reserves
manipulation in markets but this is not
just going to be about interest rates
coming down Donald Trump has the
potential to say look poell you're fired
unless you get rates down rapidly and
you turn the money printer back on money
printer go Burr now in order to actually
get to that kind of pressure you're
probably going to have to have problems
in markets uh some form of instability
like when stock markets are at all-time
highs I don't see Donald Trump uh
picking up the phone uh and going um uh
oh uh hey
um I need you to go to zero Po's going
to be like uh well first of all why are
you on the camera app and second of all
why now if markets are in
turmoil then it's entirely possible that
Jan Paul picks up the phone goes what
are you doing get to work here otherwise
you're
fired and it could enhance the federal
reserve's desire to actually make uh
some change happen after all drum Powell
while he says he wants to be a political
that is not influenced by politics he
also has a legacy to protect and being
the first uh D you know Federal Reserve
chairperson to get fired would look
really bad for Jerome Powell now he
might not care but he also doesn't want
a recession I truly do believe Jerome
Powell cares about quite frankly the
success of America and if they can avoid
a recession they will now they will put
us through a recession if they think
there's a risk of inflation coming back
they'll rather have a recession than
inflation but that's really a debate for
a different video
what's more important is if inflation is
down which I expect it to continue to be
and we have tumult in the market I
absolutely expect Donald Trump to
pressure Powell Powell's term does not
technically end until May of
20126 that technically means Dron Powell
has another a year and a half about 18
months of his term to
go this is actually quite interesting
because it means hm you get get fired at
any point next year unless you do Donald
Trump's bidding now with whom would
Donald Trump replace strong pow this
might mean less but it could be really
anyone you could have uh Kevin hasset uh
you remember him he used to be on TV all
the time during covid and during the
v-shaped recovery Larry cudow days he
was the former chair of the Council of
economic advisers under Trump and uh
he's really a tax policy expert he
worked a lot with the tax cut and job
act another option would be art laugher
though art laugher has kind of suggested
he doesn't want the job art laugher
would make uh Kathy Wood's like life
Kathy Wood loves Kevin art laugher
really respects him he's somebody who
was part of the Reagan Administration uh
he was a strong advocate for tax cuts
which you know a lot of people
especially Trump supporters big fan of
tax cuts I think that's probably also in
part why he got elected uh and he's a
big fan of using tax cuts to stimulate
growth could he end up working as a Fed
yes but he's indicated he doesn't really
want a life of that sort of public eye
so he might say no but who knows maybe
he'll end up being some form of advisor
or they'll just find somebody who sort
of like art laugher another opportunity
could be Lori Logan who already works at
the Federal Reserve or maybe somebody
like Kevin warsh uh this is just another
former fed Governor from the banki days
uh and uh he's he's got some critical
views on QE though so it's possible that
you don't end up getting Kevin warsh uh
and Lori Logan might be a little bit
more concerned about inflation so you're
probably going to be looking more at
someone like a Kevin hasset I personally
wouldn't be surprised by that because
I'm not trying to sound offensive to
Kevin hasset maybe I have the wrong
impression here but I kind of feel like
hasset is somebody who's just going to
kind of do whatever Donald Trump wants
and that's going to give Donald Trump
significant power over monetary policy
and frankly in the short term it's
probably a good thing the Federal
Reserve in the short term is
probably too restrictive in terms of
their policy for what we deserve quite
frankly with an economy that's slowing
the jobs Market there is no question is
unmistakably slowing down there are
inventory Channel Corrections at
corporations pricing power is waning and
yeah that doesn't mean companies can't
beat earnings expectations earnings
expectations were revised down so it's
easier to beat that's sort of how
analysts pre- price earnings they revise
down and then they beat it's it's all a
game and the analysts kind of benefit
anyway when these stocks go up in my
opinion because that's how they keep
their jobs you keep pooping on companies
too much you end up getting fired nobody
likes a bear let's put it that way but
what's really interesting here is in the
short term bullying the Federal Reserve
to lower rates could help reduce the
impact of a recession and could be the
right thing to do however there are some
serious long-term concerns and this is
what CNN is freaking out about before I
mention that I do just want to quickly
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it over at maven.com Alfa so with that
let's jump in over here to CNN for over
70 years the central bank has operated
as an independent it's basically a quasi
government agency when officials meet to
decide interest rates they don't consult
the president and that's because Central
Bankers should be essentially there to
remove the punch B right when the part's
getting started or to make just frankly
unpopular decisions like the party was
getting started in 21 and then the FED
starts u-turning in December of 2021 and
they take the punch bowl away that's
unpopular now in this case Federal
Reserve support would actually be very
popular because people want lower rates
the problem is when you remove that
Federal Reserve Independence you might
never end up pulling a December of 2021
again and that's where CNN basically
argues that you might end up taking that
Independence away and in the long term
you could reignite inflation by not
responding to an inflationary impetus of
the future and so I half agree with CNN
here and I half agree with Donald Trump
I actually think Donald Trump would be
right to mitigate the damage of this
recession that the Federal Reserve is
brewing they're all already behind the
curve so I think Donald Trump would be
right to beat up the fed and threaten to
fire Jerome poo or even do it if he
needs to to help prevent the odds of a
recession and support the American
economy it's going to need it over the
next year I'm highly confident of that
obviously I could be wrong that
said in the future you would want to
bring that Independence back to make
sure you do have a Fed that is willing
to take the punch bowl away do a
December of 2021 when it becomes
necessary to do so I don't know how easy
it would be to be able to switch back to
that so there you go could Powell get
fired absolutely is Donald Trump's
threat of firing Powell probably a good
thing for the economy yes but it's only
going to happen once the economy starts
really showing more severe and sustained
cracks if you look at interest rate
interest rate swaps this this gets a
little Arcane but if for example you go
to uh the 5year uh swap spread on Sofer
you're going to see on a chart that
they're going vastly negative heavily
negative like these spreads are usually
a sign of markets suggesting there's
some kind of tumult coming uh and when
you look at spreads they've basically
been going straight down since 2020 we
had lows in the summer of 2022 like July
19th of 22 that's when house Haack was
founded like at the bottom of that stock
market in 2022 that was crazy uh and
then you also had some pain at the end
of
2023 which is also when you had swap
spreads as NE or nearly as negative as
they are now but they've fallen off a
cliff and gone even more negative which
is a sign that markets think over the
longer term in this case the 5year
spread or the 10year spread interest
rates will end up going lower markets
are just mispricing that right now why
we don't know is it because the
recession's coming or there's some other
mistake I guess we'll find out anyway if
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