Trump is PREPARING to ARREST Jerome Powell | WTF
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Holy smokes. I was just touring
properties with builders in Utah. And as
soon as I land, what do I hear? Oh my
gosh. Federal Reserve grand jury
indictment. Owl announcing via a video
posted Sunday night that they're
potentially facing criminal charges. And
he's describing this is all rigged
against him. This was not on my big
board. We need to break down exactly
what's going on. What are prosecutors
demanding? What is this set up? And what
is all of this about? and what does this
mean for markets? So, here's how we're
going to break this down. First, we're
going to talk about what a grand jury
indictment is. Then, we're going to talk
about some of the history between Trump
and the Federal Reserve. And then, we'll
end by touching on a little bit of these
renovations. First things first, you
have to understand what a grand jury
indictment is and like what are the
practical implications for this? Like,
how bad is it? I mean, obviously when
Powell posts a Sunday night video,
there's obviously got to be a problem
here. It can be. A grand jury indictment
is really a precursor to formal charges.
In other words, before a prosecutor like
the Department of Justice says, "Hey,
we're going to file a criminal complaint
against you." In other words, we're
going to bring charges against you and
we're going to arraign you and we're
going to arrest you. Before we do that,
we're going to collect some information.
Now, some of that information gathering
can be through what is often considered
a fishing expedition, which is basically
where you go to all the members of the
Federal Reserve Board and you say, "Hey,
you know what? Show me everything that's
on your laptop, everything that's on
your phone, all your texts, all your
chats, all your emails, anything you
have." And this is where oftent times we
make the joke, "Show me the man, and
I'll show you the crime." Now, in
fairness, this is what people have also
said about Donald Trump. And now Donald
Trump has the policeman hat on. So
Donald Trump is sort of playing
policeman going, "Huh, what can I get
against these guys?" Well, what a better
way than to issue a subpoena and
basically request all of your documents
over frankly the life of this
renovation, which would mean over the
last frankly about four to 5 years. Now,
this is basically saying, "Give me
everything and we're going to go through
everything and anything we don't like,
we're going to start firing people off
of the Federal Reserve Board or worse,
we're just going to arrest them after
they get arrested and we showcase their
faces. You know, Jerome Powell in
handcuffs or whatever, then we're going
to fire them and go, see, they're
getting arrested by the Department of
Justice. Guess we have to fire them for
cause. Donald Trump needs cause to fire
members of the Federal Reserve,
especially Trump Powell. He has not
found that cause yet, so he's going
fishing for it. Attorneys don't like
that word. Nobody likes a fishing
expedition looking for things. Usually,
subpoenas are supposed to be narrowly
tail tailored to we want your emails
that relate to renovations. But
oftentimes what they'll do is they'll
say, "We want all of your emails." And
if there's something else we don't like,
then we'll file charges against that
because now we've obtained them legally
because you gave them to us. Hence,
fishing expedition. In fact, there is a
joke when it comes to grand juries. It
is a very famous quote. It says that a
prosecutor can get a grand jury to
indict a ham sandwich. Uh the reason we
can indict a ham sandwich ham sandwich
uh is really because a grand jury just
looks at one-sided evidence and then
decides whether or not to bring charges
against well Jerome Powell. So frankly,
a grand jury is not a trial. It is not a
court. It is a group of people who
listen to a prosecutor's ideas for why
charges should be brought against a
person. And frankly, if a prosecutor
wants an indictment, they can usually
get it. So, in other words, this is bad
because yes, it means we could see
criminal charges and an arrest of Jerome
Powell or other members of the Federal
Reserve Board that Donald Trump just
doesn't like because he wants lower
interest rates. Now, we'll talk about
policy and market reactions in just a
moment. But remember, grand juries tend
to pick favorable evidence. Then, they
frame things in the way that they want,
and they don't really present anything
that hurts their case. They're usually
very vague presentations to get a grand
jury to say, "Well, I don't think you
got an argument." There is no defense.
There's no exculpatory evidence, which
would be something that could
potentially, you know, prove the
innocence of the person that we're
investigating. Uh, and a grand jury
doesn't decide guilt. They only say,
"Looks like there's enough to try and
check it out." That's really all a grand
jury is. It's very low bar. Problem is,
this is a distraction. It forces the
Federal Reserve to take time preparing
documents, responding to these
inquiries. It is an intervention into
the Federal Reserve. It also signals the
potential that if they see an email they
don't like, they're going to send the
FBI to Jerome Powell's house and they're
going to arrest him. A fishing
expedition
grand jury uh subpoena also creates the
risk of perjury. Oh, Powell, you said
this over here. That's different than
what's in this email. Now, that could be
rigged together because as is typical in
court cases, context is missing. That's
why we have trials. So, people clip
things together. Use that to file
charges. You file charges.
You file the charges. Even if you know
you're going to lose in court, you use
that charge to arrest Powell and others.
And then Powell has to prove his
innocence in court, which could take as
long as two years or longer. So in other
words, you could literally arrest Powell
and fire him. Powell would have to prove
his innocence over the next 2 years, but
he's long out of office. Donald Trump
has every, you know, the Federal Reserve
the way he wants it, which is a little
odd because, you know, we typically want
institutions to do the right thing.
Instead, when we get labor statistics
that Donald Trump doesn't like, the head
of the Bureau of Labor Statistics gets
fired. Gets fired. And wow, what a
surprise. The labor numbers have been
great lately.
Oh, when we start getting inflation
statistics we don't like, we're just
going to start stimulating the economy
some more by buying mortgage back
securities and issuing stimulus checks
to our veterans, which I'm not arguing
against issuing stimulus checks to our
veterans, but let's just say there are
some things the president is doing that
are quite inflationary. It's also
probably no surprise that the Supreme
Court is slow walking Donald Trump's
tariff ruling because I don't think it's
going to be favorable to Trump. But if
they sloww walk it, hey, it lets Trump
continue to do what he wants. But all
these things are really a topic for a
different video. And instead, what we
should really talk about is what Donald
Trump wants here. Donald Trump, as we
talked about in our mastermind this
weekend, and as we were exploring real
estate uh in Utah this weekend for House
Hack, I described that Donald Trump is
the adrenaline junkie. He wants to run
the economy hot. And I was specifically
asked, Kevin, can we avoid a recession?
And my answer was point blank, no, but
we can delay it. And Donald Trump and
his cronies want nothing more than to
delay the reckoning the economy faces
for as long as possible. Now, of course,
that's understandable. Myin has already
said the quiet part out loud, which is
exactly what I just said. They want to
run the economy hot to delay or
forestall, Myron's word, a recession.
The problem is when we scare the market
into making the market realize that you
can no longer trust the Bureau of Labor
Statistics. You can no longer trust the
fact that the SAM rule would have
triggered in October had we actually
collected the unemployment data. But
Donald Trump essentially forced a
shutdown so he could send Russ vote to
go fire a bunch of people and then blame
Democrats for it, which is essentially
exactly what happened. Usually you have
some negotiation, some give. He didn't
have that until six weeks, which is all
Donald Trump needed to hide the October
employment numbers when the federal uh
government had massive layoffs that
would have triggered the somber roll.
So, like a lot of people looking this
was the Schumer shutdown, Kevin. I mean,
come on. Where's your freaking hat? Oh,
don't worry.
I still got my hat. You know what
happens when I put the hat on, right?
The Schumer shutdown has caused the
[music] economy to shut down, which just
happens to enable Donald Trump to do
exactly what he wants because it's
Democrats fault. We are now published
error firing a bunch of people from
federal government positions including
rigging the government exactly the way
we want it. It's Democrat's fault. You
know that's that's the idea. Okay. So
the point is not to get pedantic here.
The point is just to say this is a
bullying tool. A grand jury indictment
is a bullying rule or tool. The problem
is you scare the market rates go up and
Federal Reserve independence is
questioned. Yes. Look, we all want lower
rates and we're going to talk about the
renovations in a moment. But here's the
thing. We do not want to repeat the
1970s. In the 1970s, we had a lack of
Federal Reserve independence. Arthur
Burns was a political shill and a hack
who led us to a vulkaring or a double
dip recession in 1980 and 199 1982. That
was because Arthur Burns sucked so much
and was a political hack and did
everything that the president wanted.
Nobody had the balls to say, "Bro, we
actually have to convince people that
inflation is too high and we need to
lower it." The funny thing about
inflation is it's all in our heads. If
we think prices are going to go up, we
go shopping today and we create the very
inflation we are afraid of. That is why
the Federal Reserve says we we will not
stop until we get inflation back to 2%.
They have to say that to make us feel
like they're doing their job. It's all
part of the manipulation. We're not
going to get a rate cut January 28th, my
birthday. Why? Because the economy,
according to the Atlanta Fed real GDP,
is running at over 5%.
We're running over 5%. Why would we get
a rate cut? So far, the job numbers
we've gotten, yeah, things are slowing
down. We know that, but the economy is
not falling off a cliff. S&P surveys,
ISM surveys say we're not falling off a
cliff. Uh the ADP labor data says we're
actually rebounding slightly. Challenger
jobs report says we're rebounded
slightly. Atlanta Fed real GDP is at
5.1%. Yes, the economy outside of
artificial intelligence has slowed down,
but we don't know if this is because
we're falling off a cliff or because
we're normalizing. And so, in fairness,
the Fed is trying to do their best. I
disagree with what the Fed does. I think
we're going into a disinflationary
period. We need substantially lower
rates. So, that means, ironically, I
agree with Donald Trump and Myin, but I
disagree in the way that they're going
about it. This is pure and simple
bullying and it creates a lack of
confidence in economies and it doesn't
really create short-term damage. It
creates long-term damage. Unfortunately,
much like tariffs, we probably won't see
all of the impact of the damage that's
caused by this. Let's hit everybody with
adrenaline shots, which in the long run
always causes damage. There's always a
side effect. There's a reason why when
you get shot with an EpiPen, Yeah. you
stay, you survive. your throat opens up,
your heart rate goes up, and you can
power through whatever shock you're
going through or allergic reaction
you're going through. There's a reason
you have to go to the hospital
afterwards. It's because there are side
effects that could also kill you.
Anyway, so let's understand prior
history a little bit. Federal Reserve
Governor Cougler abruptly resigned on
August 2025 or in August 2025. She was
supposedly going back to go teach at
Georgetown allegedly, but had no classes
on the calendar to go back to teaching.
Instead, some argued that Donald Trump
was about to make a case against her
because her husband made some stock
trades that she reversed after
disclosing and I guess there were some
delays or issues or whatever. And she
basically stepped down because she
didn't want to get Lisa cooked.
Anyway,
Cougler was not a fan of Trump. She was
not a Trump appointee. And Georgetown
happens to be an institution that's
really Trump friendly. Many of Trump are
alums of Georgetown, which means there's
clearly a relationship between
Georgetown and the Trump administration.
And we know that Trump is going after
universities and Georgetown just doesn't
want to be in the reticle. They don't
want the gun pointed at their face
going, "We're going to cut your freaking
funding if you don't somehow convince
Cougler to come back." So, we know they
rigged to get Cougler back. Now, in
fairness, after we got C after Cougler
stepped down, we got Myin. This bastard
actually replies to people on X, which
is crazy to me. But I've started to like
the guy. I don't know, maybe I'm being
manipulated, but I will say he's not as
much of a shill as I thought. I thought
Kevin Hasset was a shill. I know he's a
shill, frankly. Uh, I think that Kevin
Walsh is a Neither of them belong
at the Fed chair helm. I think Waller is
the best choice who actually has an
economic brain. Or pick Myin. You know,
Myin will shill for you all day long.
But I also think Myron's economic theory
is right and defensible. Yes, lower
rates can be done because of these
disinflationary forces. The Myron
strategy is a much better way to go for
lower rates than the Trump strategy.
We're going to arrest you and fire you,
right? Because that makes it seem like
Trump is being a dictator cuz he
freaking is. Anyway, Lisa Cook, mind
you, was beat up for doing the same
thing that Donald Trump did in the '9s.
Lisa Cook supposedly was allegedly
taking out two primary mortgages within,
you know, 6 weeks of each other. We saw
it. We went through the documents. She
alleges that one of them was for a
second home purchase, which is fair. We
wouldn't see that on the documents, but
it would align with a 10% down payment.
We went through all the documents. We we
made a whole video on it. But since
then, Donald Trump himself has had
allegations that he committed the same
mortgage fraud in the '90s for having
multiple primary residences. And there's
no vacation home argument because Donald
Trump just pretended that didn't happen.
And most media doesn't really want to
slam Donald Trump too hard because
they'll end up losing their media
licenses and access to the White House,
which none of this sets really good, you
know, feelings for long-term credibility
and transparency. Even though you're
we're told that Donald Trump is the most
transparent president ever, just happens
to only be transparent when it favors
him. But again, topic for a different
video. There are real long-term
implications to this, right? But anyway,
Lisa Cook stays. Couggler's out. We get
Myron. He's shilling for 150 basis
points of cuts. Waller shilling for 100
basis points of cuts. Mind you, that's
the correct move. It's just how Trump is
going about it isn't good. And of
course, Warsh is also shilling for cuts.
So, now we need to understand, but
Kevin, you know, what's going on with
these renovations? Like, you know, I is
is there potentially going to be some
kind of like fraud there or whatever? I
would argue if they're doing a grand
jury indictment, the answer to that is
yeah, this is what Donald Trump wants.
He'll stitch together any one-sided
narrative to go arrest Powell to make it
seem like Powell is a fraud. And Trump
is working for the American people, but
that's going to kill Federal Reserve
independence, which is literally what
caused the 1970s inflation. So,
long-term bad, short-term good. This is
not the way to go about it. Now, what
does Powell say and what's going on with
their renovations? Well, here for it.
Hear it for yourself.
>> Good evening.
On Friday, the Department of Justice
served the Federal Reserve with grand
jury subpoenas, threatening a criminal
indictment related to my testimony
before the Senate Banking Committee last
June.
>> Mind you, threatening, that's the whole
point. They are trying to get the Fed to
shake in their boots and make this
Sunday night video to go, "Hey, like
we're getting attacked here." Because
they want rate cuts. This is Trump's way
of doing it. This is how Trump fights.
Trump fights dirty. Some people are
like, "Good, man. Go Trump. Go Trump."
But this is a messed up institution to
do it with because if we self-fulfill
inflation, we're going to have a whole
lot bigger problems than just a little
dinky, you know, initial recession.
>> That testimony concerned in part a
multi-year project to renovate historic
Federal Reserve office buildings.
I have deep respect for the rule of law
and for accountability in our democracy.
No one, certainly not the chair of the
Federal Reserve, is above the law. But
this unprecedented action should be seen
in the broader context of the
administration's threats and ongoing
pressure. This new threat, brilliant
statement by Powell. He's saying, "Make
sure to put in context all of the
bullying that we've had." Right?
Remember the bullying that we've had
with Donald Trump. When you hear this,
remember what Donald Trump said. Donald
Trump was asked, quote, "Will you fire
Powell?" What did Donald Trump says?
Highly unlikely,
unless there was fraud. You know, that
renovation they're doing, that's out of
hand. He's been setting up to fire
Powell for fraud. Russ Vote, the
director of the OM, has said the Federal
Reserve renovation included beehives,
rooftop gardens, VIP dining rooms. You
know, this is obviously all disputed,
but that's the point. They're just
trying to paint the picture because they
don't need to win the criminal
conviction. They just need enough to
arrest him. This is the start.
>> Threat is not about my testimony last
June or about the renovation of the
Federal Reserve buildings. It is not
about Congress's oversight role. The Fed
through testimony and other public
disclosures made every effort to keep
Congress informed about the renovation
project. Those are pretexts.
The threat of criminal charges is a
consequence of the Federal Reserve
setting interest rates based on our best
assessment of what will serve the public
rather than following the preferences of
the president.
This is about whether the Fed will be
able to continue to set interest rates
based on evidence and economic
conditions or whether instead monetary
policy will be directed by political
pressure or intimidation.
I have served at the Federal Reserve
under four administrations, Republicans
and Democrats alike. In every case, I
have carried out my duties without
political fear or favor, focused solely
on our mandate of price stability and
maximum employment.
Public service sometimes requires
standing firm in the face of threats. I
will continue to do the job the Senate
confirmed me to do with integrity and a
commitment to serving the American
people. Thank you. Good job, Powell.
Like professionally said,
even if you don't like him, you got to
give him credit. He's digging in. I
respect that. Even if you don't like
Powell, respect. He stands up for what
he thinks is right. And honestly, there
are a lot of people today that
unfortunately don't. And the reason is
because they're worried about getting
fired. We're losing a government
contract. We're getting investigated by
the Trump administration.
Just the sad reality of unfortunately
the realm that we're in. But let's
understand this. Powell is standing
firm. Doesn't mean he can't get
arrested. You could get arrested and the
picture of this guy Powell in cuffs or
somebody else at the Fed in cuffs is all
you're going to need for Trump to go, "F
it. I'm firing him. And he puts in a
whole suite of new people at the Fed.
They might cut rates a lot. So what does
this mean in the short term?
Probably bad for the 10-year yield in
the short term because we're increasing
uncertainty. We increase inflation
fears. However, near-term rates might
fall because there might be an
increasing bet that whoever comes in
soon is going to tank short-term rates.
So what does that mean? short-term rate
down, long-term rate up. If you've
watched this channel, you've been
subscribed to the education you have on
this channel. I want you to answer this
question before I say it. I'm gonna say
it one more time. It's this a pop quiz.
You should freaking know this. You
should be screaming at your TV right now
going, I know what it is, okay?
Short-term down. Oh my gosh, they're
going to rig it. They're going to cut
rates. Long-term up because of inflation
fears. What does that do to the economy?
It stretches the
102 yield curve which makes the economy
more shockprone.
It makes us more prone to beginning a
recession.
Once we hit 125 basis points, we're
pretty much in it. This is why I've
always been a fan of be conservative.
Donald Trump is slamming these
adrenaline shots everywhere. The side
effects are coming. We must be careful.
Don't be bearish. You know, like I'm not
trying to be bearish. I think I'm
actually overall very very optimistic. I
mean, we were just masterminding about
the future of house hack and the spec
build that we're doing, what we're doing
with lending, what we're doing with
tokenization. Most of you haven't even
heard about that stuff. What we're
doing, it's insane what we're doing and
how bullish we are on America and and
technology and our AI, the AI that we
sell at reinvestorhouse.com.
Right? this is great quality stuff
that's just growing. We're seeing the
bleeding edge beta releases before you
even see it. And we're like, "Oh my
gosh, how could it keep getting better?"
Remember, you can get life lifetime
access over at househ house.com. But in
the short term, this creates substantial
uncertainty. Now, let's look at the
Federal Reserve for a moment because
they tell us a little bit about their
renovations, which Donald Trump tends to
merge between two different buildings,
the Eckles building and the Mariner
project. Like there are multiple
buildings around the Federal Reserve in
DC. The Federal Reserve is governed by
very clear oversight in DC about how
things should be built. It's basically
built in a swamp. I'm not here to defend
their spending. Some people say the
Federal Reserve spends money that they
have that they've created from market
operations because they used to run at a
profit. They're running at a little bit
of a loss now, but they made a lot of
money in the past. And so they have this
congressionally approved money that
they're spending in accordance with
essentially the disclosures that they've
made since then. They've made a v video
describing this. This is the
preservation of two historic buildings
that have not been renovated since their
construction in 1930. They're trying to
improve health and the safety uh of
these buildings. Very normal phrases.
Major structural work, bringing things
up to modern code. They're putting a
parking structure underneath the actual
office buildings, which is basically in
a swamp, which is very expensive. When
the two buildings are complete, the Fed
will be able to consolidate most of
their operations and actually reduce
costs. So, they're arguing that, hey, we
could have fewer staff. We could
actually save money over time. That's
why we need these renovations. Here's
the Eckles building, how we're
ventilating and renovating the project
right now. I would love to tour this. By
the way, if anybody at the Federal
Reserve is watching this, please as like
it's like a citizen journalist, I would
do anything and I will fly out there on
a moment's notice to go to DC and look
at the renovation. I'm a real estate
guy, you know, former licensed
contractor. I could not be more excited
to to like comment on this. These right
here, we've got structural uh uh these
are structural steel frames around the
windows, by the way, since we have block
walls over here. Well, brick walls. See
what else we can see. Concrete. These
look to be uh sort of more like historic
finishes or whatever. Um I mean just
various different Tyvec shots. These
aren't This isn't the best videography.
You know, they could do a lot better
here. So, they're showing a dirty
window. I don't know why they're showing
this. Oh, I guess they have like little
I forgot to read this crap over here.
Replace building utilities on their
useful life. Fair. Uh open historic
skylights to let more light in. Fine.
Protect and retain original boardroom
murals. Install safety catwalk.
Obviously, asbestous removal from
windows. I mean, between you and me,
this is freaking But like when
you're doing like a, you know,
government spending project, they do it
with these standards that are like way
overkill. Especially coaul isn't really
fryable. It's not going to get in your
lungs. But I guess when you're scraping
it off or sanding it off, yes, there's a
risk. You should be wearing P100s. Uh,
but you know, that's those aren't
expensive. Remove structurally on sound
floor to restore original skylight. uh
match elevator landing with conference
room floor height to improve
accessibility for people with
disabilities.
Location of vegetated roofs often
referred to as green roofs for storm
water management and energy efficiency.
So this is where you know VA vote calls
this a rooftop garden but there it's not
uncommon to vegetate flat roofs or put
something on a flat roof to actually
help insulate the building or minimize
the wear and tear to the very roof or to
manage storm runoff, whatever.
uh atrium roofing installed uh to help
expand usable safe uh space. Atrium roof
also designed to bring the building up
to safety standards in a cost-effective
way. Asbestous abatement, that's very
expensive to do it correctly. I was
certified to do asbesus abatement. Uh
all these skills, by the way, are great
for house hack. Like I've done so many
things in in just like my career where I
look at I'm like damn I keep reaching in
and I'm like that's useful, that's
useful, that's useful. That's so good. I
I just feel so excited about what we're
doing. Sorry. I get excited about
business. Convert a original garage to
office space. Restore existing
historical uh fountain consistent with
historic preservation guidelines. I keep
saying that cuz the historic societies
are very challenging. West Court atrium.
Additional reinforcing walls. Making
things safer. New utilities. Here's the
Constitution A building. That's a
different one. Restore terrace. The
underground garage. New garage space.
Reinforcing walls. Uh basement. restore
historic offices, blah blah blah blah
blah, new electrical equipment. This
stuff isn't expensive, you know,
whatever. New HVAC equipment installed.
When you're doing government public
works project stuff, it's it is very
expensive. I'm not here defending their
costs. I don't have a full audit of
their costs. I'm sure I can find a way
to save money on it. But the point is,
you know, Donald Trump's looking for
anything he can to bully these people.
You know, people say, "Oh, but Kevin,
you know, the Fed cut 50 right before
the election when Biden was elected or
uh Biden was up for election and Trump
won." Well, yes, but you also have to
understand because those of us who
watched the labor market and saw the SOM
rule get triggered knew it was
necessary. So, anyway, bottom line, this
increases the pressure of the market,
uncertainties uh in the market. It it
likely is going to increase the spread
on the 102 yields curve, which creates
gets us closer to recession. Shockprone.
It's not great. It's another like
adrenaline shock to short-term junkiness
that ends up with long-term
consequences. In my opinion, Donald
Trump should just stop effing with the
Fed and just focus on picking a new Fed
chair and just wait until Jerome Powell
leaves in May. Okay. The first post
Jerome Powell meeting will be in June.
So, just wait. It's not that long ago.
It's not that long away. But to screw
with the Federal Reserve's independence,
it's just a bad idea. I don't like it. I
don't support it. But here's all the
color you need. And um I'm going to
arrest my voice. Goodbye. Good luck. I
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one. Goodbye. Good.
>> Why not advertise [music] these things
that you told us here? I feel like
nobody else knows about this.
>> We'll we'll try a little advertising and
see how it goes.
>> Congratulations, man. You have [music]
done so much. People love you. People
look up to you.
>> Kevin Praath there, financial analyst
and YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always great
to get your take.
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