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The Tesla Announcement & Selloff.

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Tesla stock is absolutely getting

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whacked today, which comes on the same

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day that Tesla is announcing the

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integration hopefully of Apple CarPlay

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into Tesla's, which of course I

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anticipate will be very exciting. I'm

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very excited about it and will probably

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come as a software update. No

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guarantees. We'll see. Maybe Elon will

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flip-flop on it. But I have to say

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yesterday I drove the Mercedes Sprinter

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van with Max as we were going to a bunch

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of house hack properties and

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dude I mean first of all I missed FSD

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but Apple CarPlay was clutch. Really

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like it. I got on the phone with Lauren

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and I'm like hey Lauren you said the

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Sprinter doesn't have as many cool dads

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as the Tesla. Which is true because it

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doesn't have FSD or whatever. Did you

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know it had CarPlay? And she's like oh I

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I had no idea it had CarPlay. That's

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great. At least it has something cuz the

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Sprinter van is kind of like a shell,

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right? It's not supposed to have all

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these cool features. It's like a utility

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vehicle, right? Either cargo van or

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family van for us. It's family car. We

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got seven kids. Which is why like I wish

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Tesla would make a Sprinter van cuz

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look, we got the Black X, we got the

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Cybert truck, we got the Model S Plaid.

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Uh what else? We We don't have a Y or a

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three, but we love Teslas. Big big fans.

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So, we would love to buy a Tesla

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Sprinter van. But anyway, so I was I was

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talking to Lloyd about that yesterday.

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I'm like, "Yeah, no, Apple CarPlay is

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great. It's easy for me to turn on

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music. I don't have to sync the stupid

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Bluetooth. It's like much faster than

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the Tesla. Uh the navigation is

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integrated much more easily." So, I'm

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kind of excited about Apple CarPlay

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because it's just an extension almost of

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your phone. Now,

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this is great for Tesla users, but what

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does it mean for Tesla stock? You know,

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we just had this buddy on Bloomberg uh

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who works, I guess, with Ed Lello, and

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he's like, "Oh, you know, there have

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been people who haven't been buying

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Teslas because of CarPlay."

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Full stop Sorry, Mr.

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Bloomberg. I don't think people don't

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buy a Tesla because it doesn't have

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CarPlay. I think, you know, and I've

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been promoting Tesla since 2017. I think

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people buy Tesla because of not only

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like the lifestyle, but that association

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that you have with full self-driving,

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safety, sustainability, and fast. I

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mean, this is like this is like

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everything you want. Fast car, safe car,

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energy efficient. Like everything about

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it is like this is perfect. Like why

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would you not buy it, right? And then

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the full self-driving is world class for

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the United States. I do think we have a

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lot of ads competition coming with, you

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know, Nvidia plays over time. Uh

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especially what we're seeing in China.

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Like we should be really grateful we

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don't import Chinese cars because

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there'll be a lot more competition for

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Tesla. Especially with what you're

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seeing with Xping with their robot demo.

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Like holy smokes. So you all saw that

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robot demo where it's like, dude, is

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that is that robot real? Like is it a

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human? And then they unzip it and it's a

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robot. I'll pull it up and show it in

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just a moment. But we got to talk about

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like Tesla stock. Uh, and so we're going

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to do that and sort of like trajectories

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here in the in the near term. This was

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the Xping robot demo and dude, people

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are looking at this like, dude, that's

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for sure a human in in that suit cuz

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this is insane. Like look how smoothly

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it walks and they gave it tits and I'm

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like, bro, like can you can you give

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guys anything more than they want?

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>> Welcome. Nice to have you.

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>> So you want to talk about love making,

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right?

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>> I mean like this is amazing. So they're

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like the Chinese are really competing

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hard on robotics versus us and and like

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literally in that demo they go up on the

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stage. You could see it. They go up on

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the stage and start like opening it up

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to prove that it's actually a robot. And

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it's insane because they knew it was so

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impressive. If somebody's like it's just

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a one-legged actor. Well, actually in

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another segment they because I think

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people thought that they also ripped

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open its chest. You know, there's also a

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you know a demo here where you see it

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walking as with just its exoskeleton

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which is crazy. Uh I mean then they show

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it literally in this Terminator style

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body. This is wild dude. That hip

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movement. Look at that hip. And I mean,

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I love looking at hips of robots, of

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course. Um, yeah. So, like that hip. I

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mean, who nah, never mind. Nobody would

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look at a hip. Anyway, so the Chinese

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are kicking butt. The problem is, look,

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what's the reality for Tesla stock here

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in the near term? Okay, so let's talk

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about this.

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Over the last few weeks, I've made

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videos on this. You can go back and

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watch them. I said that the biggest

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bearish catalyst for Tesla is actually

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the comp plan

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passing and then the aftermath

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because see the most bullish catalyst is

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the leadin this comp plan is going to

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pass. So what happens traders short-term

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traders flood into Tesla stock. So the

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stock pumps up to like a 470 value.

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Okay. I actually sold a little bit of

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Tesla stock at like 455 and sent an

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alert to course members because I'm

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like, we know what's going to happen

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after uh this, you know, the comp plan

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passes. It's going to go back down to

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414. I've been saying it for weeks. You

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know, you could get the alpha report

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over at me.com and you could see my

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rationalization for this. But my

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expectation is that at the same time as

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we're getting all this government

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nervousness around data, traders are

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going to exit Tesla and take profits

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near all-time highs. This is also

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understandable. People also want to

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diversify, right? Like you could have

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been in Tesla since 2017, like some of

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the shares that I have, and it's like

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you've got huge gains on them. Uh I just

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got a message. Uh also, heads up, an

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investor told me yesterday the reason

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they invested in House Hack was because

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markets are coming off all-time highs

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and they wanted to diversify into real

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estate with the gains they had from

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stocks. Good for them. That was cool.

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That was an investor in in uh House

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Hacker Reinvest, not a solicitation.

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Read the disclosures over at

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househack.com or reinvest.co. Same

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company. Uh, and it totally makes sense.

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So, a lot of I think this short-term

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price action that you're seeing in Tesla

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is traders moving out of the stock. And

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that's actually going to create an

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opportunity for longerterm investors to

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increase their Q without worrying about

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the P, right? Increase increase quantity

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without worrying about the P. Now, there

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is also though a realistic problem with

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Tesla and and so I just want to be real

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like real with everybody here. Tesla is

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fundamentally very expensive right now.

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we are essentially fully pricing in uh a

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robotic and humanoid future and Tesla is

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the most like pure play investment that

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you can get into humanoid robotics right

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now. So I get it like I invested into

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Appronic uh both myself personally and

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with the VC uh firm that we run and we

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invested into that as sort of a

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diversifier play into private market

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robotics sort of before what we thought

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the big robotics boom would be. And so

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I'm not in disbelief that robots are the

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future, but Tesla's really your pure

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play opportunity to to go allin on

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robots and a robotic future because

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that's what Elon's telling us that

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robotics are the future. So you have to

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go in here and in order to justify Tesla

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$400, you have to take it, you know, we

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go, this last one I wrote, I did end of

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2030, put in 4 million vehicles, which

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is still double the vehicles we do

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today. put in Optimize, you know, put in

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what? Two million Optimus, uh, uh, you

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know, whatever at $25,000 a piece, let's

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call it. Put in two million Optimus, and

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you have to put in a sexy margin here.

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Let's assume, by the way, that built

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into the margin for the cars is FSD. So,

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I'm purposefully putting, you know, FSD

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at zero because I kind of think in order

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to get to 4 million cars, just include

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the FSD. Like, let that be part of that.

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And I'm not going to price in robo taxi

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right now just so we can see what the

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numbers look like. But we've gone

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through these numbers before, right? 4

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million cars, 2 million Optimus robots

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by 2030, we're at a 315 price at a 50p

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ratio. You know, if I do this as a

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software play, I have to run this as a

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software play to get to 491,

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but it's not a software play right now.

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Now, if we throw in robo taxi revenues,

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great, maybe. But I'm always concerned

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that robo taxis are going to kind of

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compress that you're not going to get a

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lot of benefit from robo taxi. actually

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still maintain that Tesla should buy

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Lyft. Uh so like I I don't want to be

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say I'm like bearish on Tesla longterm,

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but like right now we're losing the

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trader catalyst, which is yay, stock

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plan's going to pass. Now we go back to

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fundamentals. And the fundamentals right

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now aren't great. I don't actually think

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people are going to buy Teslas because

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they have Apple CarPlay. I think it is

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long needed and it's needed for Teslas.

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But I actually think you should buy a

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Lyft. Now I don't run Tesla. Maybe

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that's a good thing, you know, whatever.

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But it's a $9 billion company. It's a

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drop in the bucket for Tesla. Drop in

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the bucket for Tesla. And I've made this

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argument for like a year now. Okay,

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Tesla's a $ 1.1 trillion company. Why

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would you buy Lyft? Distribution.

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Tesla can make a great app. I know that

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their software is freaking fire. Okay,

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but what you need is distribution. You

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need normal everyday humans that go,

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"Oh, I need a taxi." and they open up

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Uber on their phone and you want to

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distribute robo taxis on Uber on Lyft.

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Why not just buy Lyft and have all of

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those users yourself? You can now

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prioritize Tesla robo taxis as you

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expand. You can increase your expansion

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much faster. You don't have to get

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people to download the Tesla robo taxi

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app and have yet another taxi app. So,

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if you think about it, like if you're,

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you know, if you're at a bar and you're

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like, I'm drunk. I need to get a taxi,

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go home, or whatever. The first thing

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you're going to do is you're going to go

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to your reaction. It's probably going to

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be Uber even though you might know like

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like not everybody is is a big, you

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know, Tesla fan. Like people aren't

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watching Tesla videos every day uh who

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just want a taxi ride, right? So you

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pull up Uber and you don't really care

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if it's a Whimo or human. You just want

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to get home. You know, maybe the next

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choice is Lyft. But I think Tesla's

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going to be pretty far down the list in

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terms of people having that muscle

10:20

memory of, oh yeah, I want to order a

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Tesla. mostly because right now we don't

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actually have, you know, the market

10:26

distribution on where these vehicles

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are. Now, of course, there's a lot of

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debate like yesterday, how do you say

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her name? Dedra Debosa or whatever. She

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was getting absolutely reamed on Tesla

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uh because of her uh comment yesterday

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about um the number of miles that Tesla

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has driven on um I think I saved it

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here. I'll pull it up on autopilot uh or

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or sort of like full self-driving and

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she was getting reamemed because people

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are pissed because they see the rate of

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change of Tesla's distribution for robo

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taxis as as the game changer right

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because Tesla is able to expand quickly

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with a human driver now this isn't we're

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not going to go into like what is it

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what's her dedra doa seems we're not

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going to get into like a LAR comparison

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or whatever none of that stuff matters

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right now what matters is that we are at

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a phase days of Tesla cycle. Oh

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she follows me. No way. Look at that.

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Draos, see Draabosa.

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That's it. I always hear it wrong. But

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anyway. Oh, that's cool. Small world.

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But anyway, here I'm just the messenger,

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she wrote, right? Whimo fully autonomous

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miles 100 uh million miles. Uh and then

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Tesla miles with human safety monitor uh

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1.25 million. Now obviously does that

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does include FSD and stuff but we are

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just moving in a cycle right now from

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trade momentum around stock plan to

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fundies and fundies are going to take a

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while to prove. You know obviously this

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is where people are like shouting out

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these sort of headlines like here's a

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headline from 2007 iPhone versus

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BlackBerry. I I had the iPhone 1 by the

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way uh and game changer. Like the iPhone

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was such a freaking gamecher and this is

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why people promote like this rate of

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change of the robo taxi expansion. I

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agree like Tesla's going to blow up in

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service area on all of these and I

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actually think they can promote that

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much faster with Lyft. That's why I

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think like you not only get you could

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expand the Tesla robo taxi fleet even

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with the human safety monitor nationwide

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and get people who want the rides if you

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own Lift overnight, dude. overnight

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freaking game changer and it's a drop in

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the bucket for Tesla stock. Uh Tesla

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investors will probably rally around it

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and everybody who owns Lyft would make a

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big buck. Honestly, I think the cheapest

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way to get robo taxi exposure right now

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is probably Lyft. Like I don't own Lyft.

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I'm not like trying to pump my bags or

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anything here. I don't own a single

12:59

share of Lyft. Like I own more Tesla

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than I own Lyft because I own zero Lyft.

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Uh and Lyft is doing some you know fib

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retracing over here which is quite nice.

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you know, it just broke out of the 22

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level. It's a very inexpensive company.

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It's a fraction of the value of Uber

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because it has also a fraction of the

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revenue and a fraction of the uh you

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know, distribution. But yeah, I mean, I

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hate to say it, but in the like in my

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alpha reports, uh in the membership, I

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was talking about Tesla will be going to

13:25

414. I mean, obviously hashtag no

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guarantees, but I was like 90% confident

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we were going to go back to 414 after

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the share plan. And that's not to be

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bearish on it. It's just traders get

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out. Okay, this right here is traders

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getting in. Now traders get out. We

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could stabilize around 350 again. So in

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other words, are there going to be dip

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by opportunities? Yes. Part of it is

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going to be fundamental. Part of it's

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also just going to be like what happens

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with the economy. You know, if we get a

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cra I hate to say it, but if we get a

13:51

crap show of jobs data that comes out

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over the next few months, yeah, Tesla's

13:56

going to get hit as well. So there is a

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probably near-term window that you're

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going to be seeing Tesla at a discount.

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And that is not trying to be long-term

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bearish Tesla. It's just you're on

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fundamentals which are elevated and you

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got government data people are going to

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be nervous about. So Apple CarPlay is

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fantastic. Buying lift fantastic you

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know future of robo taxi I'm hopeful I'm

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not you know I like my robo taxi drive.

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Uh did you all see Carpathy's tweet on

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FSD? Uh but if you type in meet Kevin

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robo taxi you could see the video. It

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was actually very smooth when I went

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through and I did this tour right here.

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Tesla robo taxi. This changes

14:38

everything. This was actually a

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fantastic experience. And you don't see

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the whole video because, you know, it

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was like a 45minute drive around. But

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I'm with Ellie and I'm just chatting

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with Ellie in in the back of the uh uh

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the robo taxi and uh you know we're

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we're just talking about like random

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things and she's like how come you're

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not nervous that nobody's in the

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driver's seat and it's probably just

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because I've been you know trusting in

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Tesla's autopilot since

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you know what 2017. So, we're coming up

15:15

on eight years of me doing this this

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autopilot uh stuff, and it's awesome. Uh

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like, it's just a really good

15:24

technology. I'm a really big fan of it.

15:27

Now, obviously, there are going to be

15:28

cases that you run into situations like

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obviously we had a U-turn there to a

15:32

police roadblock, but those edge cases

15:35

are true, too. When I'm driving, you

15:37

know, it's like, you know, you're going

15:38

to be good on the highway like 99% of

15:40

the time, and then you come up to those

15:41

weird turns and you're like, I'll just

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drive it here, right?

15:45

probably doesn't help the algorithm

15:46

actually learn, but I'm a big fan of of

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uh the technology and I don't think you

15:50

could poop on it. I just hope Elon

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really gets into more models. Uh not

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women.

15:57

I think he's got plenty of that going

15:59

on. Uh but uh new models, Sprinter van,

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I don't think the Cyber Cap is going to

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be a big seller. I think the Cyber Cab

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is a mistake. Uh and not for FSD

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purposes. Like if you want to go cyber

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cab for robo taxi, great. You know, this

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is his profile picture right now, his

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pee pe on on uh um X. And I think that

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the Cyber Cap is a mistake for mass

16:22

production. I think you should be doing

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a four-door, four- seat vehicle, a

16:26

twodoor, two seat vehicle. Uh only like

16:29

wealthy people who have money sitting

16:31

around are going to buy this. Uh and

16:33

it's not going to be a good selling

16:34

vehicle.

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Unfortunately, it would probably be like

16:37

the Cybertruck, which a Cybertruck is a

16:39

great car. like I will shield the Cybert

16:41

truck any damn day. It's just not going

16:44

to sell well. So, it sucks. Uh so, more

16:47

models is really what they should be

16:48

focused on and and I don't know if we're

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going to get that focus there. Now,

16:51

Tesla also did vote down the XAI

16:54

funding, which I actually advocated for

16:58

advoc I advocated for voting down the XA

17:01

funding. I do not think that Tesla, a

17:04

public vehicle with great funding,

17:05

should be investing in a private money

17:08

losing enterprise like XAI. Not only do

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I think you're competing against

17:12

commodities, there's nothing unique

17:14

anymore about Grock over Copilot or GPT,

17:18

like they're all converging to the same

17:19

end. GPT is already seeing their user

17:22

growth slow down. And so Tesla

17:23

shareholders, I think, were smart to

17:24

vote down Tesla investing in XAI. Now,

17:29

there's this rumor that XAI is raising

17:31

another $15 billion, which of course

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Elon Musk is saying is false, but he

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always does this. You know, it's

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probably because it's more. You know, he

17:38

might be raising more money. He might be

17:40

raising $18 billion and he calls it

17:41

false. Or he's uh, you know, raised a

17:44

dollar less and he calls it false. You

17:45

know, he could find any little loophole

17:47

to say why this is false. He did this

17:48

with the cancellation of the Model 2

17:50

basically as well when Reuters was

17:51

talking about it. So, you have to take

17:52

this with a grain of salt. Um, you know,

17:55

his his comments in terms of why it's

17:57

false. But I do think that a Tesla

17:59

should not be investing in a private

18:01

company that is losing money handover

18:03

fist without disclosed financials. Like

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if XAI was so great go public then

18:09

retail could invest directly into XAI.

18:12

But I don't think Tesla should do that.

18:14

I think Tesla should take that money and

18:15

instead of investing in XAI make a new

18:17

model like a Sprinter van. So that's my

18:20

take. So short-term, there's a reason to

18:22

be bearish, not just economically and

18:24

data-wise, but you know, just

18:26

fundamentally for Tesla. Uh, so this is

18:28

expected. We knew this was coming. We've

18:30

talked about it on channel. We talked

18:32

about on the alpha report. It's not a

18:33

surprise and serious investors are going

18:35

to look at this and go, "Hey, you know,

18:37

it'll create an opportunity to buy it

18:38

cheaper if you're really long-term

18:39

bullish Tesla." Uh, you know, some

18:41

people are going to wait until the

18:42

valuation aligns a little bit more with

18:44

fundamentals and take it from there. But

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broadly, this is my take and I still

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think they should buy Lyft. So that's my

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take on what the hell is happening with

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Tesla.

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>> Why not advertise these things that you

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told us here? I feel like nobody else

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knows about this.

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>> We'll we'll try a little advertising and

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see how it goes.

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>> Congratulations, man. You have done so

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much. People love you. People look up to

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you.

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>> Kevin Papra there, financial analyst and

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YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always great to

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get your take.

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