I F**k'd up. sorry.
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hey wow 2024 is behind us happy New Year
in this video we're going to talk a
little bit about strategies for
2025 and what I think might be a good
opportunity for making money in 2025 so
we'll talk about all of that but uh
first I think it's worth noting that I
may have been well I think I was but it
depends on what happens in the future a
little bit early which is much like what
my wife tells me I always come through
but I'm often too early and so my big F
up in 2024 was probably being just too
early to what I still think is coming
our way which is not ideal because we
don't want it to happen give you a quick
overview of some of these calls where it
went right where it went wrong but then
I really want to talk about what I think
uh is the future and uh what will do
well uh in 2025 so we'll talk about them
uh so first uh you know this I mean many
of you have been watching the channel
for a while you already know that we
called the crash in 2022 once the
Federal Reserve had the disastrous
January U-turn that led to the sort of
big flip-flop that people said where
it's like oh my gosh Kevin sold really
grateful I did because it saved a lot of
downside uh then I did start reing at
the end of
2022 and I called for a Nike Swoosh
style recovery as I thought that people
would sort of get used to the idea that
inflation was actually falling that we
were starting to get disinflation not
necessarily deflation like price is
coming down but that inflation was
mostly under control and I said there
would probably be a euphoric rally at
the end of that Nike Swoosh recovery
well we got the Nike Swoosh recovery and
now a lot of people say we're in the
euphoric rally especially for Tesla and
companies like paler but I didn't time
it perfectly and this is unfortunate
because even though these were all
absolutely correct I ended up uh
believing that we were closer to
recession during the Japanese Yen carry
trade crisis in August when we started
getting some pretty nasty employment
data and unfortunately that led to too
early of a
recession uh hedge trade if you will
which the Hedge trade for recession is
really simple you buy long bonds
short-term bonds don't do that great
because their price doesn't move up that
much in a recession so usually longer
term bonds do better and this is where a
lot of people plow into trades like a
TLT the problem is and this is what I
didn't expect the next few months of
employment data got boosted by
government jobs data and frankly the
election of Donald Trump led to fears
that we were going to get a second wave
of inflation whether from tariffs or
from businesses just potentially booming
under Trump again and people still today
believe that and because people have
that belief there are a lot of
Institutions and hedge funds that have
started to short and continue to short
longer term treasury bonds that
depresses the price for a trade like a
TLT which isn't great obviously if
you're using that as a hedge trade now
how could potentially TLT be used as a
hedge trade well this is what you have
to evaluate its benefits for uh take a
look at this this is how TLT works well
so TLT goes up when bond prices go up
that should be pretty simple right this
also correlates to the 10-year treasury
yield even though TLT is really like a
20 25.5 year maturity roughly last time
I checked uh the it correlates to the
10-year treasury basically longer uh end
coming down so when I started making
this trade in July I actually made money
on this trade you know it was up
somewhere around 25% which was great
unfortunately once the FED started
cutting rates we started seeing this
trade get killed why well because as the
FED cut 100 BP we saw the 10year move up
100 basis points as opposed to
continuing to move down which is really
unfortunate
because there really aren't actually
ingrained signs that we're going to have
a Resurgence of inflation
at businesses whether you look at
Services whether you look at uh consumer
packaged Goods or just basically things
people are buying Autos TVs products
companies are selling there's more uh
evidence of deflation than there is
evidence of a second wave of inflation
but that doesn't mean the trade still
isn't getting decimated so TLT while it
was up at
1.25% now it's down like 50% in terms of
a trade but here's how it works s uh TLT
works really well when there's a
recession much like gold TLT also
works okay in a soft Landing TLT Works
terribly if the economy keeps booming
and so far it's felt like the economy
has just kept booming now this is really
good for startups so don't get me wrong
as a somebody who runs a startup like
house hack I'm really really excited
that the economy at the moment seems
like it's booming now I don't think it
will last mostly I'm not going to go
through all the whole recession thesis
in this video but basically I think on
the horizon the storm clouds are there
27 weeks unemployed Rising unemployment
claims Rising unemployment rate uh the
fact that most of the jobs that we've
created have been government jobs right
before the election which make sense
they don't get seasonally adjusted out
but they're probably overstating the
amount of actual jobs our economy is
creating given that Bloomberg
intelligence also thinks we are
overstating payrolls by somewhere around
90 to 110,000 jobs per month which it
just stated a couple days ago you're
kind of in a place where at some point
the Reckoning is probably going to come
in the jobs Market which I I really
really don't want to see because I
remember what it was like in 2008 when
everybody around me couldn't get a job
they were losing their jobs
unfortunately uh and you know obviously
people's portfolios were getting
decimated things were really bad
people don't like that sort of
environment uh it's a really really
tough and depressing time that's why
sometimes recessions are called
depressions well also because prices
fall more into depression but anyway
when unemployment Rises really
substantially you can rapidly go into a
depression and unfortunately I think the
storm clouds of that are
building and artificial intelligence
will just add fuel to the fire of
whatever recession or depression we have
that's because usually in a recession or
depression you have prices going down
you have rapid deflation which yes many
of us are going to want that deflation
but it's not going to do us any good
unless we have a bunch of money saved up
because if we don't have money saved up
and we don't have a job because we've
lost our job then you're not going to be
able to afford those lower prices anyway
which sucks because then it's like oh if
real estate prices go down which we'll
talk about that in a moment or stock
prices go down how are you going to buy
if you don't have cash or a job to keep
funding that right so uh this is where
what's interesting
is as a hedge TLT actually works really
well in a recession uh much like gold
but the problem is gold in my opinion
doesn't work as well in a deflationary
recession it usually works well when
you're facing inflation like in the
1970s either way though gold and TLT can
work really well here TLT also works
okay in a soft Landing Gold's obviously
come up it started stagnating but
recently we've started seeing a little
bit of a pickup uh risk assets obviously
do very poorly in a recession right uh
risk assets down this would be I mean
just think back to the Japanese Yen
carry trade how much pain there was in
the stock market and how quickly there
was pain in the stock market uh when it
looked like oh my gosh we were starting
to price in a recession the stock market
can fall very very very rapidly
especially at where valuation sit now
you know paler trading for like a 10 Peg
it's insane it's a great company don't
get me wrong same thing with Tesla great
company but the valuations are just
kooky right now so there is a lot of
risk sort of in and there's also this
fear that people think hey you know if
you want to take profits maybe you take
profits in
2025 because hopefully Donald Trump will
lower price you know lower taxes no
guarantees though but some people have
argued that there'll be less profit
taking at the end of 24 and More in 2025
because of this uh but anyway what's
really interesting uh about all of this
is artificial intelligence could enhance
the future recession because it's going
to be so much the barrier is going to be
potentially so much higher for
businesses to hire uh
workers because they can use artificial
intelligence to enhance the productivity
of their existing workers and
potentially reduce the need to hire more
workers think about customer service
agents I mean they're getting wrecked by
artificial intelligence Clara has just
completely stopped hiring people and
they expect to lay off as much as 75% of
their staff thanks to artificial
intelligence which I also think this is
just my belief but I also think that the
AI boom uh has has delivered us very
very smart
encyclopedias basically a quality
version of Siri but you know in a voice
generated GPT essentially these are
fantastic as far as how much they're
going to actually help us with drug
Discovery or anything really Beyond like
customer service and encyclopedic
information I'm not convinced I don't
think the progression that we are seeing
in artificial intelligence is
exponential I think it's more like a
stair stepper where it's kind of like
wow GPT moment and you know everything
kind of ran up to that moment and then
we kind of stagnate there for a while
which probably won't do too well for
continued server expansion chip
expansion you know valuations at
companies like maybe Nvidia AMD or
whatever they're great if we can
continue to sell the amount of chips
that we're selling today and yes
nvidia's valuation is supported by
earnings today but what happens when we
are no longer buying as many Nvidia
chips because we don't really need to
keep that Nvidia or AI boom Going if all
of this comes together with you know the
layoffs in election workers the slowdown
in artificial intelligence the
realization that the job that we've been
getting has been bad the realization
that the inverted yield curve usually
pushes us into a recession once we un
invert by 50 to 90 basis points which
we're like 30 basis points un inverted
now so we're getting closer and uh when
we look at the trajectory of employment
data
and you know once these revisions all
come in things aren't really looking
good for avoiding a recession which
continues to make TLT a desirable trade
in my opinion as a hedge the
non recession play though is go make
money at your work as much as you can
you know make make money while while uh
the sun is shining make hey while the
sun is shining as they say uh and this
is what I always motivate hopefully you
to do is think of what can you do to
look at 2025 and say I'm going to make
as much money as possible so that way I
can invest if prices fall otherwise
maybe you're buying the dip who knows I
think it's also worth mentioning that I
think some banks and mortgage lenders
may end up doing really well in 2025 if
a you don't have a residential housing
crash which I don't think you have B you
continue to get deflation or low
inflation which I think we were going to
get especially as joblessness continues
to ramp up and three you end up in a
place where you start leaning more
towards a recessionary environment and
fed is actually forced to really drive
down rates those would in my opinion not
only help mortgage companies do really
well especially those that focus on
residential loans less likely to default
but then they can capture refinances but
could potentially also help smaller
Banks so I'm paying a lot of attention
to smaller banks in 2025 and I'll be
sending some alerts to course members on
specific banks that I'm looking at
because I think as rates start trending
down banks that haven't gotone broken
yet would actually be supported by
Falling rates refinancing an upsurge in
lending so while I'm usually not super
excited about the financial sector of
the S&P 500 2025 could be the year for
banks mortgage companies and bonds so
keep an eye on that I think the Federal
Reserve is convinced or I say committed
to not allowing a single Bank to fail
some ideas for you to uh think
over but 2025 is very exciting to me
because while there were some good wins
in
2024 I wish I had more I know this
sounds crazy but let me go through some
of these so I did some wonderful things
with in in 2024 and hopefully they're
motivating to you but I had triplets so
I have seven children now very excited
about that summer is alive which is
great that took a lot out of me when uh
there were three months of uncertainty
for her we raised over eight figures for
house hack and deployed over $50 million
into properties and Renovations we also
just started Adu development and raw
Land Development which is really cool I
think uh we're going to launch our
regulation a offering hopefully in
February for non-accredited
investors uh so if you want to be a part
of house act stay tuned for that no
guarantees on the timing of that yet
it's all sort of SEC dependent uh but
house Haack for me is going to be a big
driver in 2025 very excited about that
uh I don't actually see real estate
prices especially in single family
collapsing even if there's a recession
so unfortunately I think a lot of people
might lose their jobs and we might
become more of a renter Nation than I
see real estate home prices collapsing I
could see Star prices falling
substantially more rapidly than home
prices collapsing I actually think if
there's a recession interest rates will
truly come down rapidly I believe that
by 2032 we'll have lower interest rates
than we've ever seen before and owning
real estate will be most valuable
because your ability to refinance these
at interest rates under 2% in my opinion
we're going there uh will be really
desirable and actually supportive of
asset prices for houses but not for
tenants they'll be supportive for people
who can actually afford to buy those
homes uh specifically wealthier
landlords now I think that's bad but I
mentioned this as a signal to you to
consider getting into real estate sooner
rather than later I don't see that there
are significant defaults coming to
single family real estate or residential
1 to4 real estate now remember what we
do at house we we want to be the best
landlord in America and eventually even
sell these homes that we renovate that
are unlivable to tenants so we don't
want anybody to think that we're you
know taking homes away we're actually
bringing supply to the market we're
taking homes that are unlivable and
bringing them to the markets which which
helps lower rents and then if we end up
selling well then we're contributing
more inventory to home owners right so
we think as America's best landlord we
uh we're providing a true service
especially if we're building adus and
adding inventory and Supply but I do
encourage you to get into real estate uh
and I want you to know I'm putting my
money where my mouth is I just invested
$5 million of my personal money and
Lauren's personal money into house
hack's latest fundraising round because
we believe so much in what we're doing
at house and we believe so much in real
estate as the True Value going forward
especially where stock valuations are
right now it just it doesn't make sense
to take $5 million and go I'm going to
buy stocks right now in my opinion that
doesn't mean I'm not you know funding my
children's retirement accounts uh which
potentially could go into the S&P 500
but you know certain like 529 plans you
have to pick you know basic options that
you get from Fidelity you don't get too
much discretion but uh you know I
actually had my children's 529 plants go
into bank deposits for right now you
know they yield 4 and a half% or
whatever it's like a money market and
eventually if there's any kind of
Correction then I'll take the money and
take the kids uh funds and buy the dip
on like the S&P 500 or whatever but not
right now I'll wait for us to get closer
to the 200 day moving average uh but um
Adu development big fan of it right now
I think they're a great opportunities to
do that and I think contractors have
enough time right now there's there's
not like I think there's a lot of
availability for cont Contracting right
now that's at least what I'm seeing uh
and there's a lot of desire for real
estate agents to send you deals and I
think we'll see more inventory come to
the market now that we're in q1 which
will be very good for real estate and
opportunities to buy since there
sometimes in December it should be a
good time to buy but there's so little
to choose from it's kind of like uh like
really like do I want to settle on that
so then you just wait for like January
February things really ramp up with home
buyers buying usually March so you still
have January February 2024 I hit 16
years with Lauren which is really cool
in December actually launched a robotics
VC we raised over seven figures we're um
uh investing a good chunk into a
robotics uh private Venture uh
opportunity that that I've already been
invested in and they're doing another
really big round a VC round and we're
going to be part of that so that's very
exciting 2024 I became a pilot started
golfing and bowling with Max and
teaching them skiing Max went from
skiing on greens to uh doing his F and
falling on greens to doing his first uh
Black Diamond run just yesterday which
was very very very cool stopped drinking
and about 100 days of uh not drinking uh
it's been tempting but then also not so
it's kind of gotten to sort of this
weird place where I'm like I'm good it's
interesting I've become a lot more
patient uh reading more able to sort of
self-reflect more without taking
criticism to heart I I feel like
everything I do is of the most utmost
integrity and yeah I make mistakes
you know being early on TLT wasn't a
great move but for what it's worth I
still think uh it it is the the move uh
for the next year we'll see though uh
we'll see what comes out with this job
data over the next uh probably two or
three months if we can if we could get
through the next two or three months
without recessionary jobs data we might
be okay we might be able to dodge it and
actually stick this off Landing so the
next the next quarter here will be
pretty critical for
that uh we also in 2024 bought the house
next door which is kind of cool because
it avoids sort of destabilizing the kids
when I was a a child I uh moved
endlessly and I never really had a
stable friend group or school so it's
really nice to be in one particular
place somebody actually sent us these
was very nice they have an Etsy store
somebody sent us meet Dad and uh meet
Mom so if they're watching this video
you should leave a comment with your
Etsy store and then I can pin it that'
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upload it to meet Mom it was cool thank
you for sending that to me very
cool uh what else 2024 I launched a new
course called uh trumponomics for 2025
how to invest in Tax Strategies uh for
Real Estate uh stocks trade alerts and
everything that's over at meetkevin.com
I've uh Got a New Year's sale going on
through Friday you're welcome to check
that out launch the free Alpha report
you can get that over at M kevin.com
significantly worked on something
special with um finra as well some
broker deal work so that's pretty
exciting I'm going to keep that going
this year and continue building the team
that we have done a lot of consolidating
and refining of our team we've got a
really really good coure team now so
very grateful for that we're going to
keep this going in 25 I think for
YouTube my goal is to get a lot more
content out as well uh I in 2024 I
realized I posted a pul tree 1.1 times
per day which is Fourth of my 2020 and
21 average so I really got to step it up
again I want to get into I've read a lot
of your comments on what you'd like to
see so I want to focus more on news
analysis real estate uh specific stock
analysis for example like hey micro
strategy they've been buying stocks for
12 they've been buying Bitcoin for 12
week straight are they going to buy for
the 13th week straight they've got about
$45 billion of Bitcoin and their market
cap has fallen to just $71 billion they
used to sell for like a 3X multiple of
the Bitcoin that that they have now
they're selling for just 1.5 times a
multiple find that very interesting but
they also issue a lot of convertible
debt which the cool thing about
convertible debt is if the stock keeps
skyrocketing cool people get to
participate in some of the upside after
I think this the stock at this point
would have to probably double or more
for people to actually get some upside
in latest convertible Bond rounds that
they did and they're at 0% interest
which is crazy uh but if you know
Bitcoin or micro strategy don't keep
going up then into 2029 or 2030 or
whatever then at least people are
promised their Capital back via
convertible Bond unless of course micro
strategy goes bankrupt that similar
Style by the way is what we're doing
with house Haack we raised money uh for
accredited investors at house hack.com
with a convertible Bond where if you buy
it you get paid 5%
interest and you get 100% of The Upside
in the stock for whatever it goes up uh
and and uh it's it's pegged to what we
think is relatively low valuation which
is really exciting so uh we think we're
giving people a really good deal but
it's win-win you know investors get 5%
but we're also borrowing for Real Estate
at 5% which is cheaper than what Market
rates are right now so we see that as
win-win for both sides but anyway uh the
reggae round hopefully will be similar
stay tuned for that in about
February uh you know we're supposed to
hit a Deb ceiling again before inaugura
before inauguration day which is crazy
but anyway uh these are some of the sort
of looking back to 2024 items 2025
really looking forward to again more
content on YouTube bringing you more
value bringing you hopefully more
inspiration whether it's updates on
what's going on with hedge trades or
just long-term Investments uh not just
long-term Investments but where there
might be Value Place where there are
updates in the real estate market what's
going on in the news world at the same
time I want to balance that with spend
more time with my boys who are now well
Max is about to turn seven and then Jack
who's nine again why I've started
bowling and golfing with Jack and Max
and
skiing uh I plan to as a pilot as well
get my uh instrument rating multi-engine
rating one day maybe we'll even get the
uh ability to fly the plane that I own
which is a jet but you've got to get
typed for that and so that that's a
little bit more
challenging uh so lot of exciting things
going on but uh I'm not going to hold
back 2025 some of the goals I've got are
to wake up and and these are some some
of the sort of uh how should I put it uh
um new I wouldn't really call them New
Year's resolutions but I just call them
sort of daily objectives that I have
I'll put it that way so one of them is
to uh try to as much as possible and
this is challenging be calm around the
kids uh sort of like stoic to to the
madness and that's because especially
when you're traveling alone like I
traveled alone with Jack and Max for a
5-day ski trip and it's really difficult
when let's say you're trying to solve a
problem whether it's you got an email or
a phone call or even just fixing your
ski Booth but then Jack has a bunch of
Demands and then Max has a bunch of
Demands D D D D and and so responding
calmly to this especially when things
are frustrating can be very hard but I
think it's really important as a dad to
grow and and so always maintain calmness
so I've been getting better at that
although I want to be even more
perfect I uh will make it a goal every
single day to just continue waking up
early some of this has been messed up
with ski vacation and piloting and such
but I have been waking up consistently
around 3:00 a.m. want to get back into
that routine so uh also you know try try
my best to make sure I sleep at least 6
to 7 hours a night really important once
you start getting under six you start
having a lot of problems things just
don't go well uh as well as of course
continuing to focus on health and
fitness making sure to get that cardio
in getting some body weight work in uh
but also maybe free weight exercise or
uh that would be very good uh and uh uh
and ultimately continuing to deliver
value to y'all with the Daily Wealth
email which hasn't been as consistent in
the last month of 2024 and that is my
fault uh that will be back to
consistency as well as the uh Alpha
report uh every day the market is open
as far as plans for live streams uh I
think what will work best at the moment
is doing Market open live streams for
course
members and going back to somewhat more
of a Consolidated live stream schedule
where I'm consistently live for course
members uh but really only going live if
there's breaking news for the public
mostly because what I find is if I
go live on a public video and then I go
live for course members uh and uh you
know then I've got to get my team
started all of a sudden it my entire
morning gets a lot less productive and
it's a lot harder to continue to produce
actually produce content uh and I feel
like that actually ends up robbing my
viewers uh value that I could be
providing so we'll be consolidating that
and uh remember you could just have
lifetime access to those course member
live streams if you want just join
trumponomics over at me
kevin.com so yeah those are some of my
plans those are some of my plans some of
my
goals uh some of uh the the tasks that
I'm focused on and uh we'll take it from
there so that's uh that's a to a great
2025 uh wish the best for everybody and
and honestly I do wish that we uh we
avoid a recession I don't think uh it
will go very very well I think it'll be
pretty dark and dirty but uh hey you
know what I always like to say don't get
caught up in your oopsies try to focus
on your W's instead because otherwise
you just end up depressive and broken
and uh ultimately if the only thing
you're sad about is a dollar in a bank
account or in your stock brokerage
account at at least you're not dead or
you know have some terrible terminal
illness or your family's dead or dying
or something right like things could be
a whole lot worse my heart goes out for
example to the people who died in a
terrorist attack today uh horrible
so I don't know hopefully that adds some
inspiration so thank you so much for
watching and uh we'll keep bringing you
value appreciate you all do not
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