The Massive, Coming Fed U-Turn & 5% Rate Cut.
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hey everyone me Kevin here so a lot of
people have been asking me how in the
world is it possible that the FED is
actually considering a pause with the
unemployment numbers that came out this
morning people are also wondering how is
it possible that the economy could
potentially not go into a recession with
the Federal Reserve going through
quantitative Tiding and how is it
possible that the market is pricing in
cuts it doesn't make sense
or does it well in this video my goal is
to explain
why it might end up making sense for the
Federal Reserve to essentially do what
the market is projecting at least what
the bond market is projecting and that
could end up being very good for stocks
and maybe also real estate and maybe
also the economy and the recession now I
don't want to come from this permeable
point of view that some people try to
label me as try to be just as realistic
as I can with the data I I want to
step back for a moment with you and ask
what is the driver of the Federal
Reserve and I'm so I'm going to ask you
a question here
does the Federal Reserve care about
stock prices and does the Federal
Reserve care about real estate prices
and so that question is I think very
important because it's these questions
here that lead people to say well the
market should be going down if the
Federal Reserve is trying to slow down
the economy right these should be
suffering we should have negative
earnings growth
so we'll talk about that and we should
have slower and softer real estate sales
which we'll talk about that as well so
hold that thought for a moment and now
consider some of the catalysts that we
have coming up right now we're at about
June 2. well over the next about
14 ish 12 to 14ish days we'll have some
catalysts and these will be pretty
important and are potentially actually
driving what's happening here which is
fascinating you know we talked about
that and this what's coming here
especially on the 17th I bet you you
don't have the 17th written down we're
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with that said
that's what we're going to be working on
here but that's not so much of a
catalyst right this is this is Kevin
pricing over here what's a catalyst here
is on the 17th you actually have the
CBOE as options your standard options
expiration date and an OP X date not to
be confused with operating expenditures
at a company is important because it can
increase bets for hedging in either
direction given that the market has
basically done one of these this year
it's likely hedging is being conducted
to the downside via puts for the 17th
but if people are buying puts now for
the 17th what you're actually doing is
you're forcing market makers to be
buyers
now and so quants and market makers are
buying here you've got the 17th here now
why would you have hedging being done
over this two-week period versus just
any other month you have standard
options expirations and you have
weeklies as well but those matter less
these are the bigger dates and the 17th
is the big date for this month well
because conveniently that week which
actually makes that options expiration
during that week a weekly expiration you
will have the fomc meeting on the 14th
and you'll have CPI on the 13th those
are really big deals because these are
going to drive what the market does if
we get a terrible Miss on CPI we get
some kind of core read that's actually
going up and we're seeing that Services
inflation is becoming substantially more
sticky you would expect the market to go
down in those shorts or put options to
make money especially since if this
really anchors then the Federal Reserve
will likely be inclined to raise
interest rates in the June meeting which
right now markets are actually pricing
in a June pause and a July hike which
I'm not going to rehash the likelihood
of this Beyond just giving you a brief
summary brief summary is that this is
probably unlikely because pausing and
then hiking again would be likely seen
as repeating the mistakes of the 1970s
era where between 1970 and 1978 the
chairperson of the Federal Reserve
Arthur Burns essentially created this
expectation that the FED doesn't know
what it's doing because we're just going
to lower rates and then we're gonna
raise rates and lower rates we're gonna
raise rates and we're lower rates we're
gonna raise rates if you look at the
fomc rate it's nuts for the 70s markets
don't like that because it's a signal
the FED is confused they're not
consistent or they lack control couple
that with war and oil price shock and
leaving the dollar standard you have
broken inflation expectations and then
you get Paul volckert which is a fancy
way of saying everything goes to poopy
doopy and the market crashes that's bad
so I I don't think that if we pause here
we'll hike again but my opinion doesn't
so much matter what instead matters is
going back to this question
does the Federal Reserve actually care
about stock prices and real estate
prices
now it is tempting to answer that
question with a yes or no it's tempting
to say oh of course they care because
that's part of the economy and other
people are like no they don't care about
that they only care about other things
so the answer to this is a mix the FED
really only cares about stock prices and
real estate prices to the extent that
these items affect the federal reserve's
mandate
soon with how society's going will
probably call this a person date but
we'll just stick with mandate for now so
stock prices and real estate prices only
matter two
what the effect that they affect the
Dual Mandate of stable prices
stable Pete and Max E stable P Maxi
stable prices maximum employment that's
what matters so for example if real
estate prices are plummeting and they're
affecting households propensity to spend
then you might actually see disinflation
and pricing and you might see layoffs
but this is ultimately what the FED is
trying to control stable prices at
maximum employment
and so now you have to ask yourself okay
well the FED probably has a formula for
arriving at the interest rate they have
and they do and now what we want to do
is compare that formula to what Sable
prices in Max E demand the Federal
Reserve to do so let's consider the
formula the formula is as such the
effective
Federal Reserve Open Market Committee
rate and the reason you say effective by
the way just kind of write this uh I
don't know down here for a moment is you
say effective because the rate is
actually just a trading range and the
rate kind of on the daily basis
fluctuates between five and five and a
quarter percent that's the range we're
in right now so if they're trying to
accomplish five percent well what goes
into that formula well what goes in are
two things one is the level of uh
inflation expectations generally about
three years out so we're going to take
the three-year inflation
expectation we're going to write that
down let's say right now that three-year
inflation expectation is three percent
now after we have the three-year
inflation expectation what we're going
to put in here is some form of real rate
that we're targeting
and that real rate really depends on if
the Federal Reserve is trying to be
restrictive or not or potentially even
accommodative so we'll talk about that
in just a moment but right now that real
rate is expected to be about
two percent this is based on Jerome
Powell's last two fomc pressures where
he explained this to us
so when you add this together you get
the fomc's rate of five percent
so now you wonder okay well how could
the market possibly be pricing in rate
Cuts well here's how first of all the
stock market going up doesn't actually
matter to the FED again to the extent
that they only care to the extent it
affects prices employment
same thing for Real Estate so for the
moment we could actually think let's
just draw an X through this let's
decouple this because what's actually
happening right now well what we have is
we have maximum employment nobody would
argue that when we just added 300 what
39 000 jobs to the payrolls data yeah
the establishment survey yes we know the
household came in slightly negative and
there's some abnormalities with that but
nobody would argue that when we're
beating for 14 months in a row and we're
well above a pre-covered trend on the
establishment survey nobody would argue
that we don't have maximum employment
now it could be said that we'll do it
again the household came in negative
yeah but there's volatility between
those two numbers last year we're like
why is the household survey lagging so
much and they've caught up all of a
sudden magically who knows maybe the dad
is raped but if the dad is raked it
doesn't matter because the fed's looking
at it going well
all right whether it's rigged or not
that's our job so check
okay so then the next question is stable
prices and this is where folks will say
oh but Kevin inflation is sticky on the
services side maybe and that that
absolutely may be true that's why this
CPI date and the shorting is happening
because yeah inflation could continue to
prove to be sticky that's not what we're
seeing in Spain it's not what we're
seeing in Germany we're seeing inflation
in the entire European and Union come
down faster than expected wage growth is
much more stable now than it used to be
wage growth tends to lead to service
price growth which is the whole sector
people are worried about so in a weird
way you have like a reverse wage price
spiral think about that for a moment
what is a wage price spiral well a wage
price spiral is When people's pay goes
up so pay goes up and when pay goes up
people have the ability to spend more
money on stuff so they spend more money
on stuff spend goes up which enables
prices to go up but if prices go up you
don't feel like your pay is going as far
anymore so you demand more pay okay well
you can also reverse this if your pay is
more stable then prices can be more
stable
so it's a reverse wage pay as well
that is roughly what we're seeing based
on not just jolt's data but also the
payrolls report that came out this
morning in the ADP private report
yesterday which some people like because
they think it's less rigged than the
government data and whether it is or
isn't they're all saying the same thing
no wage by spiral so to some extent as
long as the Fed
I don't know why I hit Stables here
maybe I'm thinking about horses anyway
stable prices
um to some extent if we can get to
stable pricing
then this does not matter what matters
is that we eventually get to stable
pricing and so then people have this
question okay well we need to get there
fast right
no the only thing that limits how
quickly you have to get to two percent
inflation or inflation expectations but
inflation expectations just Google The
Five-Year Break Even rate
they're this they're straight down
they're at Lowe's nobody's really
expecting inflation to dis anchor right
now so in other words if inflation
expectations are falling
you have no rush to get inflation down
in fact by you just holding firm
inflation slowly just continues to
trickle down wages aren't pressuring
core Services more and so you're
actually trending I'm going to put a t
here you're trending to stable prices
so then the question is well I mean the
FED is projecting unemployment to go up
don't they have to follow through with
that
no because if they do not need to
remove maximum employment in order to
get to stable prices then they win their
dual mandate there's no point to getting
to stable prices and then having 10
unemployment because now you've got to
go the opposite direction to fix all the
damage you just caused that's the over
tightening concern so if you're at five
percent and you're like we're just by
hanging out here we're trending towards
stable prices
we're at Max employment and it's doing
really well doesn't look like we're
going into a recession
why screw with it just let it be this is
really good now a lot of people that go
but Kevin that's Goldilocks so it's
gonna be an earnings recession you want
to see an earnings recession all you
have to do is look at chip stocks not
their stock prices but actually look at
their earnings Reports look at Intel
look at Nvidia look at Dell that just
came out look at Macy's look at Nike
over the last earnings uh periods here
you can see what an earnings recession
starts looking like in other words
negative a quarter over quarter Revenue
growth and earnings growth
so uh Revenue growth leading to that
earnings recession right okay so now the
question is but why then is the market
pricing and cuts well the market is
pricing in Cuts because of this
if we end up getting disabled prices and
we remove from the news cycle all this
fear and drama and fud and uncertainty
and doubt about prices running away and
being so unstable what's going to happen
to inflation expectations three years
out
well should be obvious inflation
expectations three years out will
probably fall and let's say inflation
expectations go to one percent because
maybe people think artificial
intelligence is actually going to cause
disinflation in the future so you see
and we're going to be extreme with this
but I just want to show you how this
could function
and now the Federal Reserve says okay
well you know we could go to maybe
rather than a restrictive stance which
if restrict restrict is let's say
restrictive is a real rate of two
percent maybe more of a neutral level is
one percent okay well if I change this
to one percent what do we all of a
sudden have well we have fomc rate of
two percent
now let me be extreme here okay
watch this let's say inflation
expectations are one percent inflation
actually starts trending to one percent
rather than two percent
well now rather than having the fomc
rate at a neutral rate the FED might
want to go accommodative
accommodative might be a real rate of
zero percent
okay so uh or or quite frankly it could
even be watch this you know what let's
go a little extreme I said I was going
to go extreme super extreme real rates
of negative one percent
okay well what happens then instead of
uh one percent here if this is negative
one percent
well then the result of the formula is
zero percent rates
which we're at five percent right now of
federal you know federal funds right
what is the bond market pricing in right
now well by the time the cycle is over
over the next two or three years the
bond market is pricing in
500 basis points of cuts which is just a
fancy way of saying five percent of cuts
which is another way of saying we going
back to zero
and then people are like wait a minute
Kevin if we go back to zero isn't that
going to cause inflation again
no not necessarily because remember what
caused inflation in the last cycle was
the rapid printing of money not the
printing of money look at 20 or a 2008
2008 all the way through 2020.
gradual printing of money inflation down
actually so low they were thinking of
lowering the inflation rate to 1.75 and
everybody was freaking out about
negative
rates and what that would mean for
banking
so
does the Federal Reserve care that
stocks are rallying in a dare I say it
Nike Swoosh style recovery which I
expect to continue for the rest of the
decade hence Nike Swoosh now you can see
it
do we think the FED actually cares
about stock prices or real estate if
their mandate has been met stable prices
in Max E
no
they don't obviously if there's Euphoria
then you could end up causing unstable
prices and inflation again but wait a
minute
stock market rallies don't cause
inflation
rapid money printing causes inflation
so what now is the Practical bottom line
of all of this
well the Practical bottom line of all of
this is no matter what happens
here on CPI or fed day this is your
short-term fear right this short-term
fear might give you reason to well first
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but maybe it makes sense to buy here if
you think inflation is going to be okay
if you don't think that inflation is
going to come in okay then maybe what
you do is you plan to buy
here right here or here or you just wait
you just don't buy that's another option
right
but long term not short term long term
practically speaking
if this is the direction of our Market
does it make sense to invest in treasury
bonds yielding you 4.5 percent when
there's a risk your opportunity costs in
the market substantially higher that is
if stocks are going to return 20 why do
you want the four and a half percent
well sure there's a risk of downside
here right these stocks could actually
go negative 10 or negative 20 then that
looks more attractive but the point is
there's a real risk of being
mispositioned because of the belief that
the FED cares about stocks and stocking
real estate prices
and this misbelief that the FED as soon
as they start printing again they're
going to cause inflation again and this
misbelief that the Federal Reserve needs
to cause unemployment in order to have
prices go down
a lot of it is just not based in fact
and
while the one thing that could destroy
all of this
and everything I just said can still
make complete sense if this happens
is this
if CPI unleashes and for some reason
core inflation skyrocketing and the wage
price spiral comes back then you can
actually just reverse this stuff right
because now you potentially have a
de-anchoring of inflation expectations
and you say well inflation expectations
are going to be four percent and we
actually think we need to be at a real
rate of three percent to be more
restrictive well what does the formula
tell you then well the formula tells you
then you're going to have seven percent
interest rates in the market which
obviously uh would would take a little
bit of work to price in in other words
it would be bad for stock so yeah
there is a potential things could go
wrong but it doesn't change the facts of
how these formula work
and so for me I look at is if this CPI
comes in solid the jobs that added today
was fine CPI comes in solid
you get a pause
after you get a pause they're done it
doesn't make sense to send this
wish-washy garbage signal to the market
for what another 25 BP who cares just
keep it there a little longer it's
complete nonsense so this is my POV
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