TRANSCRIPTEnglish

Tesla Stock in Crisis | Why & Should you Buy.

28m 29s5,053 words727 segmentsEnglish

FULL TRANSCRIPT

0:00

we need to talk about a Tesla stock

0:01

Tesla's evaluation is it worth buying

0:04

what did Elon Musk just say what the

0:07

future potentially holds and there's a

0:09

lot in this first let's review some

0:12

click Clips here from Elon musk's

0:14

interview with Larry cudow now remember

0:17

Larry cudow was Mr v-shaped recovery guy

0:20

and the first thing that I want to start

0:21

with is I love that Elon starts with

0:25

humor at the beginning of the interview

0:27

but boy by the end of the interview it

0:30

starts feeling a little dark let me show

0:32

you both of those clips and you can kind

0:35

of get a sense for the frustration that

0:37

Elon is feeling at the department of

0:39

governmental efficiency how it's

0:41

potentially Weighing on his other

0:43

businesses and the difference between

0:45

expectation full of Hope and enthusiasm

0:48

and the reality of the nastiness of

0:50

government and politics I'll tell you it

0:53

makes me really second guess ever

0:55

wanting to get involved in politics it's

0:58

it's pretty ugly there settings fir to

1:00

various uh Tesla charging stations near

1:04

Boston uh shots were fired at a Tesla

1:07

dealership uh in

1:09

Oregon various nonviolent shots fired

1:12

not a metaphor shots fired yes um

1:16

downtown New York um marching marching

1:19

against the Tesla uh showroom your stock

1:22

is way down you've been criticized left

1:25

and right but look on the right side I

1:27

mean why why are you doing this

1:30

always always look on the bright side of

1:32

life

1:34

yes okay that's the happy opening but

1:37

look at how he transitions into the

1:40

depressing portion yeah um you giving up

1:43

your other stuff I mean what you how are

1:45

you running your other

1:47

businesses uh with great

1:50

difficulty

1:54

um yeah I mean but there's no turning

1:58

back you're saying

2:02

I'm just here trying to make uh

2:04

government more efficient uh eliminate

2:07

waste and fraud

2:09

and so far we're making good progress

2:12

actually so well unfortunately even this

2:16

great progress at doge is Highly

2:18

Questionable so first of all that clip

2:20

of the interview there really makes you

2:22

question what is elon's involvement at

2:24

Tesla anymore is he actually still able

2:27

to lead and Inspire it's important for a

2:30

leader to be there and Inspire even if

2:32

he can't be there every single day it's

2:34

obvious that he's working and busy but

2:37

if he's distracted on something that's

2:39

actively hurting the business it turns

2:41

into something that demoralizes

2:42

employees which isn't good it's totally

2:45

fine if he's working on something that's

2:46

helping the business which is frankly

2:48

what a lot of investors thought elon's

2:50

involvement with the government would

2:51

bring would be more regulatory Clarity

2:54

for things like full self-driving or

2:56

Optimus robots or rockets in the future

2:59

or you know know electric vehicles or

3:01

green energy or whatever unfortunately

3:04

that optimism has been flipped on its

3:05

head we've given up all of the

3:08

postelection Tesla stock rally but it's

3:11

more than that

3:12

because people are starting to question

3:15

well if Elon Musk is spending so much

3:17

time on Doge and he's making mistakes

3:19

there is he also potentially overly

3:22

optimistic on things at Tesla I'll give

3:25

you a couple of examples the first

3:27

example comes from this clip in the

3:29

interview where Elon Musk says that the

3:31

Biden Administration was responsible for

3:34

putting together a report that found

3:36

half a trillion dollars of fraud in fact

3:39

there was a report uh issued by by the

3:41

ga GAO at the government accountability

3:43

office um last year so J during the

3:46

Biden Administration which estimated the

3:48

the federal government fraud to be uh uh

3:51

half a trillion dollars so just to be

3:54

clear that's that's not a trump

3:55

Administration thing that's a Biden

3:56

Administration thing but wait a minute

3:58

Elon Musk you said that this data was a

4:02

Biden Administration thing not a trump

4:04

Administration thing no that's not true

4:07

this is a report that was released

4:09

during the Biden Administration in

4:11

2024 but it actually covers a lot of

4:14

trump years here see Trump was elected

4:17

in 2016 he took office in 2017 his

4:19

second year in office was 2018 third

4:22

year 2019 fourth year 2020 okay then

4:26

Biden had 21 and 22 that means three 3

4:30

fths of the years of this fraud were

4:33

actually Trump Administration years so

4:36

wait a minute Elon did you read the

4:39

report now there are going to be people

4:41

that are like Kevin you're just trying

4:43

to hate on Elon no I'm not I and

4:46

honestly it doesn't really matter if you

4:47

think I'm trying to hate on them or not

4:49

it doesn't matter I don't have shorts or

4:50

Longs on this it doesn't matter here I'm

4:52

going to give you valuation on Tesla St

4:54

in a

4:55

moment but I want to do this to provide

4:57

you with perspective and insight because

4:58

I think it's important when Elon Musk

5:00

says he has 100 people working at Doge

5:03

and he can't read reports that he's

5:05

quoting during media interviews

5:07

correctly then he loses credibility and

5:10

if he loses credibility by

5:12

misprescribing

5:30

it's the same thing as when we hear the

5:31

same argument that Donald Trump says

5:33

that oh there are 20 million people that

5:35

are dead on Social Security this has

5:37

been studied and reviewed so many times

5:39

yes there are 20 million dead people on

5:40

the Social Security roles that is

5:43

they're on the logs but that's different

5:44

than them receiving payments the reason

5:46

they're not removed from the logs is

5:48

because it's been estimated was cost the

5:50

government $9 million to go through and

5:52

individually remove those people that

5:54

aren't REM receiving payments but that

5:56

are still on there and they're dead so

5:59

yes they're dead names on the roles that

6:00

doesn't mean they're getting paid

6:02

they're just being left there but Don

6:04

and Donald Trump and Elon haven't put in

6:07

the effort to dive into that research

6:09

and it's not that hard you can research

6:10

it yourself but it's fine let's get past

6:13

all this political mumbo jumbo uh and uh

6:15

let's get into something that is not

6:16

divisive at all like Ukraine and then

6:19

Tesla's valuation oh wait okay quickly X

6:23

was attacked today and this really does

6:26

relate to Tesla okay because the more

6:28

people Target Elon Musk the more people

6:31

Target Teslas

6:34

Teslas are targets for vandalism people

6:37

are beginning to get afraid to park

6:39

their Tesla vehicles around different

6:41

parts of the country which is really bad

6:44

because it's expensive to fix vandalism

6:46

let's say you've wrapped Tesla and you

6:48

really care for it and somebody Keys the

6:49

snot out of it or damages it it could

6:52

cost you three four $5,000 it might be

6:54

excluded from your insurance coverage

6:56

you might have to try to fix the damage

6:57

yourself or out of pocket people just

7:00

don't have that extra money lying around

7:01

to fix these problems quick note a lot

7:04

of insurance policies do cover vandalism

7:06

but then it comes down to the deductible

7:08

that you chose you chose a $5,000

7:10

deductible you may as well fix it out of

7:11

pocket even $1,000 is a big hit we know

7:14

that over 70% of Americans don't have an

7:17

extra, available if an emergency were to

7:19

pop up the consumer is suffering today

7:22

people bought Teslas to save money not

7:24

to potentially have to pay more money

7:26

and crime is crime it shouldn't be

7:28

happening but it is frustrating in

7:29

because so now all of a sudden trying to

7:32

make an economic or C cons conscious

7:35

decision and and buy a money-saving car

7:37

like a Tesla uh from the point of view

7:39

of Maintenance or gas savings turns into

7:42

into basically walking around with this

7:44

exploding option for somebody to hit you

7:46

with $3 to $5,000 of damage out of hate

7:49

for Elon that similar hate for Elon is

7:51

what we just saw targeted against uh X

7:54

where X went down at least on the east

7:56

coast and Midwest via a Cyber attack

7:58

this morning

8:00

Elon Musk suggests that Cyber attack

8:02

originated from Ukrainian IP addresses

8:05

there was a Cyber attack on X today

8:08

which shut it down and may have been

8:10

foreign sourced it's a big story you

8:12

want to give us a moment on that uh well

8:15

we don't we're not sure exactly what

8:16

happened but there was a massive Cyber

8:18

attack to try to bring down the EOS

8:20

system uh with the IP addresses

8:23

originating in the Ukraine area see it's

8:26

entirely possible that those Ukrainian

8:29

IP addresses were actually just VPN

8:32

addresses so in other words the attacks

8:34

were funnel through a VPN which

8:36

everybody has access to these days I

8:37

mean insert a VPN ad here okay I don't

8:40

actually have a VPN ad but what's

8:42

fascinating is it's entirely possible

8:45

that Russia could have actually attacked

8:48

X made it look like it was coming from

8:51

Ukraine to again get Elon pissed with

8:54

Ukraine getting him yelling at Trump to

8:58

reduce funding for Ukraine so it's sort

9:00

of like oh let's manipulate the useful

9:05

Elon let's get into Tesla's valuation

9:08

all right so the first thing that you

9:09

have to know is the PEG ratio has fallen

9:13

for Tesla which which is nice this is

9:15

this is useful because it makes it a

9:17

little bit less overvalued right eps4

9:20

2025 is projected to be

9:22

$288 however revisions are coming down

9:25

on Wall Street usually as a stock goes

9:27

down Wall Street estimates follow it

9:28

down this is unfortunate for a stock

9:30

because it means institutions are really

9:33

like you when your price is going up and

9:36

they don't like you when your price is

9:37

going down so there's somewhat of

9:39

momentum in these price Target changes

9:42

that actually leads you in the wrong

9:45

direction right it makes you buy when

9:46

it's at all-time highs it makes you sell

9:48

when it's at lows so just take some of

9:51

these estimates with a grain of salt

9:52

Wall Street is estimating just $288 of

9:55

projected EPS for 2025 part of that is

9:57

because there's the potential of having

9:59

the clining deliveries in

10:01

2025 which at this point uh absent new

10:04

models that are not just refreshes of

10:06

things like the model y it seems likely

10:10

Tesla's EPS growth thereafter should be

10:12

pretty good looking at potentially

10:13

somewhere between 35. 59% uh next year

10:17

then 28% then 20% Then 40.6 uh 26% over

10:21

the next four years that works out to

10:23

about

10:25

29.86 uh in adjusted earnings per share

10:28

growth per year so if we take that

10:31

growth that average growth of call it

10:33

30% and divide it into the PE Ratio that

10:35

we have for Tesla now of 78.2 is uh you

10:39

end up with a PEG ratio of just

10:42

2.63 now that's actually a relatively

10:44

Fair valuation for a service-based

10:47

company so let's say Tesla was uh you

10:51

know essentially a full self-driving

10:53

company with Robo taxis and they were

10:55

providing a service a 2.63 multiple is

10:57

entirely reasonable a multiple of 1.67

11:01

would be more reasonable for a

11:03

manufacturer of cars and Energy Products

11:05

like Solar Products or inverters or

11:07

otherwise and face it selling for way

11:09

cheaper than that they're less than one

11:11

but that would put their fair value at

11:13

closer to $113 at the estimates which is

11:16

way lower than what we had in our

11:18

previous numbers because the projections

11:21

for Tesla's vehicle growth have

11:23

plummeted uh and and their sales growth

11:25

their EPS growth this is problematic

11:29

because

11:29

it does make you wonder okay so at

11:33

today's price we're basically still

11:35

fully pricing in FSD and at least some

11:38

degree of Robo

11:40

taxis but we don't know that artificial

11:42

intelligence is going to be good enough

11:44

to get us across that Finish Line are we

11:47

going to have you know crew Chevy Cruise

11:49

style controllers trying to remote

11:51

control Teslas if they break down or

11:53

they miss an edge case scenario probably

11:56

not because this is supposed to be a

11:57

vision based system then you have AR

11:59

arcial intelligence folks uh who say

12:01

Tesla's not going to be able to solve

12:03

this until we get to artificial general

12:05

intelligence because there are too many

12:06

Edge case scenarios and as we know most

12:10

Tesla drivers do take over driving the

12:12

vehicle in Edge case scenarios which

12:14

actually means you're providing less

12:16

Edge case scenario data to a lot of

12:18

these training alos now of course you

12:20

could use the the human input and the

12:23

recorded input from the human but that

12:24

seems to be less valuable than actually

12:26

showing that the AI can handle the

12:28

situation

12:30

who knows the point is Tesla's valuation

12:34

on a service and FSD basis has fallen to

12:37

reasonable levels this is a good thing

12:41

if you see Tesla as just a

12:43

manufacturer it's still overpriced by

12:45

about a factor of two it should be about

12:47

$113 now if you see it as an FSD Robo

12:51

taxi service it's decently priced right

12:54

now it actually might be a good price to

12:56

buy if that's your opinion especially

12:59

since you're not really incorporating

13:01

into that price any of the Future Hope

13:03

on Optimus robots and you're

13:04

incorporating a lot of hate you know the

13:06

the swastica cars that are getting

13:08

graffitied shots fired against Tesla

13:11

stores cyber trucks you know getting lit

13:13

a blaze there's a lot of pain let's get

13:16

into some more fundamentals and

13:18

financials all right fundamentals from a

13:20

fundamental point of view the company

13:22

has a lot of cash their margins have

13:25

obviously compressed substantially I

13:27

mean if you look over here we we can see

13:29

total revenues in 2024 were about

13:33

$97 billion that's quite a lot of money

13:36

their gross profit was about $17 billion

13:39

well in

13:41

2022 their revenues were actually about

13:43

$16 billion lower and their gross profit

13:48

was about $3 billion higher this is what

13:51

happens when there's margin compression

13:53

okay we've already seen that margin

13:54

compression the stock has already

13:56

acknowledged that we know margin

13:58

compression occurs when there are

13:59

companies that have a lack of pricing

14:01

power it's actually one of the inspiring

14:04

factors that we hadn't talked about

14:05

before that uh I closed an ETF that I

14:08

had which I started at the bottom of the

14:10

market in November of 2022 great time to

14:12

start we return somewhere around 24 25%

14:15

for investors uh now close that in

14:19

February because I'm looking going there

14:21

just no pricing true pricing power

14:24

opportunities walking into a potential

14:26

recession now all of a sudden you've got

14:29

NASDAQ selling off you've got the S&P

14:32

500 selling off you've got Tesla down 15

14:34

something perc uh and so it's no

14:36

surprise I mean look look at this timing

14:38

I wish I had a an option on this timing

14:40

look at this timing meet Kevin pricing

14:43

power ETF a year to dat actually had a

14:45

return whereas the NASDAQ lost 7% CU it

14:49

just falls off everything fell off a

14:50

cliff at the end or at the beginning of

14:52

March here which In fairness we have

14:54

been warning Could Happen we've been

14:56

saying this for many months now that we

14:57

need to watch the beginning beginning of

14:59

the year data to see if hope actually

15:01

turns into reality and so far that hope

15:03

isn't actually turning into reality uh

15:06

but what else do we have in terms of the

15:08

financials well I want to say the

15:09

balance sheet is really strong you

15:11

should already know this about Tesla the

15:13

balance sheet is fantastic you can't say

15:15

anything negative about this you've got

15:16

$ 36.5 billion in cash $1 billion of

15:19

inventory $4 billion of receivables no

15:21

cash issue here because you only have

15:23

25.5 in payables so if I mean you've got

15:26

free cash here if I add this together

15:29

here 36.5 + 12 + 4 obviously uh

15:32

inventory and receivables aren't cash so

15:34

we need to Discount those let's discount

15:35

that by about four so say they have 48.5

15:39

billion of free cash we've got

15:42

25.5 of

15:44

um total current liabilities due by the

15:47

end of the year that leaves us about $23

15:49

billion of free cash well we could build

15:51

a couple gigafactories with that like

15:53

the the cash Tesla has available is

15:55

great this is a fantastic uh situation

15:58

because it makes it less likely that

15:59

Tesla's going to be forced to raise

16:02

money in the stock market to

16:04

issue now if you look at their cash flow

16:07

uh statement you could see on cash flows

16:09

they certainly create less cash flow

16:11

than they previously did look at 2022

16:13

they brought in uh cash from investing

16:16

activities of about 14 sorry cash from

16:18

operating activities of about $ 14.7

16:21

billion and then they spent about seven

16:23

on uh Capital expenditures so that's

16:25

like seven over $7 billion of free cash

16:27

flow it's amazing you can see that's

16:29

narrowed for the entire year the entire

16:32

year that's narrowed to about $3 billion

16:35

so it's it's certainly compressed quite

16:37

a bit about $3.5 billion but still

16:39

that's a 50% compression in free cash

16:42

flow again they don't need it so it's

16:44

okay it gives them cushion to sell cars

16:47

for less money and keep those volumes up

16:51

the problem is estimates for Tesla

16:55

deliveries aren't doing so freaking hot

16:57

now a lot of people were referring to

16:58

the model y refresh is slowing down some

17:01

of these deliveries and a lot of people

17:03

refer to Australia as potentially a sign

17:06

that there's infinite demand for Teslas

17:08

because you can't get the rear wheeel

17:10

drive uh model wide we went into this in

17:12

detail in the course member live stream

17:14

this morning so I don't want to go into

17:15

terrible detail uh right now but it's

17:17

worth noting that there are exchange

17:19

rate issues uh there are luxury vehicle

17:22

taxes uh that you have to deal with the

17:24

gsts you have to deal with stamp duties

17:26

you have to deal with byd is actually a

17:29

competitor in the Australian Market as

17:30

well uh it's also worth noting that you

17:34

have cars that need to be configured to

17:35

drive on the left side of the road which

17:37

is a little bit more challenging to

17:38

manufacture for Australian and New

17:40

Zealand clean car discounts expired so a

17:43

lot of things actually hurting demand

17:46

for Tesla's overall in Australia leading

17:49

current numbers for Australia to show

17:50

that Tesla sales are down 71% year-over

17:53

year but why are the model yse sold out

17:56

then well mostly because as they they

17:58

introduced the rear wheel model as

18:01

available in Australia and manufactured

18:03

and China what you found was Tesla threw

18:05

in almost every incentive Under the Sun

18:08

lowest priced vehicle free supercharging

18:11

and other benefits including full

18:12

self-driving to make it a steal of a

18:14

deal it's kind of like a pull forward of

18:16

demand and an expiring coupon code

18:17

essentially to try to get people excited

18:20

speaking of coupon code there's no

18:21

coupon code right now but uh we are

18:23

listening to your feedback some folks

18:25

are looking for a less expensive maybe

18:28

pay over time or just a monthly

18:30

subscription service where you can kind

18:31

of sign up and if you don't like the

18:34

courses the course member live streams

18:35

the alpha Port whatever you could just

18:37

cancel right so like you pay one month

18:39

at a time or maybe you pay Upfront for

18:41

six months or whatever right and so that

18:43

way it's a lot more manageable in these

18:45

harder times to be part of the research

18:48

that we do together every morning in the

18:49

course member live streams uh so anyway

18:52

this this you know idea that Australian

18:55

demand is is you know such a sign of

18:58

global demand just doesn't line up with

19:00

the data uh it doesn't line up with the

19:02

data in Europe it doesn't line up with

19:03

the data that we're seeing in California

19:04

with registrations and it just doesn't

19:06

align with the estimates that we're

19:08

seeing from people like Troy Tesla uh

19:11

teslik Troy teslik just wrote uh just

19:14

about a week ago that Tesla deliveries

19:15

this quarter are expected to be the

19:16

lowest that they have been in the past

19:18

10 quarters TR teslik also suggests that

19:20

Tesla's facing severe competition in

19:22

China with Brands such as zomi having 34

19:26

to 37 week wait time for their model

19:30

while their production is running at

19:31

alltime highs for the zomi vehicles well

19:34

at the same time the model y Juniper

19:36

model yeah it has a little bit of a

19:38

weight but it's like 2 to four week not

19:41

great so there's something else

19:42

potentially driving competition in China

19:44

The Wall Street Journal had a piece out

19:46

on this where they argue that when it

19:48

comes to buying cars in China people are

19:50

not brand loyalists they just pick the

19:53

cheapest car that gives them the best

19:55

bells and whistles a lot of competition

19:57

from byd and others

19:59

in fact Bloomberg uh surveillance had a

20:02

research report that Tesla may have lost

20:05

about 26% in brand value after Elon Musk

20:08

got involved with his government Affairs

20:12

and unfortunately that is a shot heard

20:14

around the world okay now let's get into

20:17

the spreadsheet we've talked about the

20:18

spreadsheet many times before in the

20:20

past and I have not updated it since we

20:23

last did our update and what you'll see

20:25

in my last update is I give them a PEG

20:28

ratio multiple of uh about 1.67 which is

20:32

a PE ratio of 50 at about a 30% growth

20:35

growth rate that gives them a reasonable

20:37

price target for the end of 2026 of

20:39

244 but this is based on 3 million

20:42

vehicles to be delivered in

20:44

2026 if I make the present value oh

20:47

that's funny the present value I wrote

20:48

last time was hey you should aim for

20:50

$200 well now it's about $221 at the

20:53

time of this recording this projection

20:55

would only give you about a 5% return on

20:57

investing in the stock for the next 2

20:59

years well through the end of 2026 so

21:02

slightly less than 2 years that's a 5%

21:04

compounded return that is okay but

21:07

that's based on 3 million vehicle sales

21:10

the problem is if we're at negative

21:12

growth this year in 2025 and we only end

21:14

up getting you know 1750 cars you know

21:17

1,750,000 cars then we're at a slight

21:20

negative in terms of production how are

21:22

we going to go from 1750 to 3 million

21:26

that doesn't seem realistic anymore

21:27

because that would be 7 1% growth so

21:30

let's go with

21:31

1750 1.75 million Vehicles produced

21:35

let's give them a the assumption that

21:37

we're going to go back to 30% growth 1.3

21:40

okay cool well 1.3 would look like

21:44

two 275 so

21:48

2,275 uh th000 cars produced okay if we

21:51

leave everything else the same 18%

21:53

margin energy sales still massive at 26

21:57

billion this is a huge Bump by the way

22:00

we still leave uh margins that we have

22:03

uh as set for some of these other items

22:05

you can pause and see that on screen

22:06

that would bring Tesla down to a

22:08

valuation of about

22:10

$23 so this is obviously significantly

22:12

higher than just taking a PEG ratio

22:14

multiple of the Wall Street estimates

22:16

right this is a rebuilding of of the

22:19

estimates based on how many vehicles we

22:21

think they could

22:23

deliver that said it relies on this

22:25

boost in energy see if I take this

22:27

energy boost back down to about 15

22:30

billion because you know we're in a

22:31

recessionary time all of a sudden the

22:33

future value at the end of 2026 might

22:36

only be about

22:37

$170 and if we just can't get to vehicle

22:40

growth and we're we should be happy with

22:42

getting to Just 2 million Vehicles A

22:44

Year Without a price reduction you're

22:46

sitting at about 155 to really go

22:48

bullish here what you need is you

22:51

need the revenue Boost from energies $26

22:54

billion of of V which is very bullish

22:57

that doesn't assume a recession

22:59

and you need some lower cost vehicle

23:01

that's really going to get us somewhere

23:02

to maybe like 4 million Vehicles

23:04

produced which would be fantastic and

23:06

who knows maybe that'll come out so far

23:08

it seems like we're just getting lower

23:10

cost refresh versions like a refresh

23:13

model Y which we've ever seen or refresh

23:15

Model S or X at a lower price basically

23:19

ways of trying to get pricing power

23:21

back which is hard to do in this sort of

23:23

environment when people don't have extra

23:24

capital or money for Capital

23:25

expenditures what do you end up with

23:28

well I mean then you can get to a $300

23:29

price Target in which again is is much

23:32

more reasonable than some of the insane

23:34

numbers that Tesla stock has been

23:35

trading for after the Trump rally but

23:38

the Trump rally we knew was detached

23:39

from fundamentals now we're actually

23:41

having a fundamental discussion again so

23:43

the numbers are actually such that

23:45

they're getting juicier

23:47

again they're still rich but they're way

23:51

better than where they were again it

23:53

just comes down to what what do you

23:55

think do you think we can double the

23:56

number of vehicles Tesla is going to

23:58

produce but 2026 or the other thing that

24:01

you do is you go to like let's say 2030

24:03

and you assume that they're going to

24:05

sell you know 5 million rooc cabs at uh

24:09

you know some kind

24:11

of large margin larger than they have

24:14

now you go to maybe instead of an 82%

24:16

expense ratio you go with um an expense

24:19

ratio of only uh I don't know let's go

24:22

with uh 78 this will give you 22% profit

24:26

margins you know High profit margin car

24:28

assuming there's not substantial

24:30

competition and everybody wants this

24:31

hell you know what go even to 75 okay so

24:34

the expenses are only 75% to produce the

24:36

car so if they sell a car for $30,000 a

24:39

rooc cab their expenses would be 225 and

24:42

their profit would be $7,500 including

24:45

the FSD and everything people throw this

24:46

into the fleet okay great now we can get

24:48

to a $500 price target with 5 million

24:51

Vehicles sold by

24:52

230 and a 25% margin you know now you

24:56

want to get really excited throw uh

24:59

throw some Tesla bot Revenue in here so

25:00

let's assume they have a 30% margin on

25:03

the Optimus robot which would be great

25:05

they sell 34 billion dollars of Tesla

25:07

Bots and they have uh you know expenses

25:10

of 24 bill that gives them an extra 10

25:13

billies uh of uh of income basically

25:16

which is absolutely fantastic right uh

25:19

so let's sum this all up here let's see

25:21

total expenses let's make sure we have

25:24

our total expenses in here let's make

25:25

sure we have total revenues to include

25:28

include the Tesla bot there we go so

25:30

total revenues now include the Tesla bot

25:32

we added total expenses now include the

25:36

uh you know 30% margin over on the

25:39

Optimus bot right

25:41

here and uh we scroll down what do we

25:43

get to we get to about a $600 Target you

25:46

know and that's on a manufacturing

25:48

multiple so if you want to go to a

25:49

service multiple sure I could take this

25:51

to the moon and and you can make some

25:53

delicious returns between now and 2030

25:56

but you could see there's a lot

25:58

of of real work to be done here we're

26:02

not in a place yet where we have Optimus

26:05

robots for sale how am I supposed to

26:07

project to 2030 you know what if we

26:09

can't solve the FSD problem what if we

26:11

can't get Tesla sales up uh in the near

26:13

term it's just going to take a while to

26:16

see where these things move now I'm

26:18

optimistic on the Tesla bot but near

26:21

term wall Street's going to have a

26:22

headache trying to do valuations on this

26:25

when their sales are still negative for

26:28

uh uh for their vehicles and the margins

26:30

are not this high so that does become a

26:34

little bit more

26:36

challenging and uh and that is what

26:38

keeps Tesla stock probably you know at

26:42

uh $200 at closer to a 2026 price

26:48

Target got a couple years to go through

26:50

for that now how would Tesla respond in

26:53

a recession well in

26:56

2022 there were plenty of jobs available

26:58

and If We Had A recession a real

27:00

recession in 22 my thesis was that more

27:03

people could buy Teslas because rates

27:04

would be lower and higher income white

27:06

collar workers would have plenty of

27:08

discretionary income to buy

27:10

Teslas the problem that came after that

27:12

was we ended up having you know two more

27:15

years two and a half three or more it's

27:17

actually probably more like three years

27:18

of growth now up to the beginning of

27:20

2025 here and so the recessions

27:22

basically coming 3 years later after

27:24

people have spent all their extra

27:25

discretionary excess savings and the

27:27

jobs Market is harder now this means

27:29

Tesla is now actually uniquely more at

27:32

risk of a recession so how do you buy

27:35

Tesla well my take is if you don't think

27:37

there's a recession you could probably

27:39

think about buying the dip for that

27:41

longer term Optimus future and and maybe

27:44

full self-driving

27:46

future but there are a lot of risks that

27:48

come with that including AI development

27:50

can we actually get to that or do we

27:51

have to wait for AGI which we're nowhere

27:53

close to uh

27:56

alternatively if we

27:59

recession you probably have to ask

28:01

yourself how much is a recession

28:02

actually being priced in and right now

28:03

that answer seems to be very little

28:06

anyway these are just some of my

28:07

thoughts on Tesla stock hopefully it's

28:08

helpful to you and we'll see you in the

28:10

next one goodbye and good luck do not

28:11

advertise these things that you told us

28:13

here I feel like nobody else knows about

28:15

this we'll we'll try a little

28:16

advertising and see how it goes

28:17

congratulations man you have done so

28:19

much people love you people look up to

28:20

you Kevin P right there financial

28:22

analyst and YouTuber meet Kevin always

28:24

great to get your take

UNLOCK MORE

Sign up free to access premium features

INTERACTIVE VIEWER

Watch the video with synced subtitles, adjustable overlay, and full playback control.

SIGN UP FREE TO UNLOCK

AI SUMMARY

Get an instant AI-generated summary of the video content, key points, and takeaways.

SIGN UP FREE TO UNLOCK

TRANSLATE

Translate the transcript to 100+ languages with one click. Download in any format.

SIGN UP FREE TO UNLOCK

MIND MAP

Visualize the transcript as an interactive mind map. Understand structure at a glance.

SIGN UP FREE TO UNLOCK

CHAT WITH TRANSCRIPT

Ask questions about the video content. Get answers powered by AI directly from the transcript.

SIGN UP FREE TO UNLOCK

GET MORE FROM YOUR TRANSCRIPTS

Sign up for free and unlock interactive viewer, AI summaries, translations, mind maps, and more. No credit card required.