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wow there is complete and utter turmoil

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and that turmoil is also going to lead

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to an apology from me so let's talk

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about these in order and number one ever

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since we heard Jerome Powell yesterday

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suggests that we might essentially have

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higher rates forever we have seen a

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complete dumping of Treasury bonds we've

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seen the 10-year Skyrocket about 13

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basis points we're over four and a half

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percent on the 10-year now real estate

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mortgage rates just skyrocketed over

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eight percent leading a lot of people to

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believe that real estate is about to

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actually hit the toilet or take a

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massive poopsie-doopsy this winter Black

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Friday this year might not be about

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getting a cheaper TV it might actually

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be about getting a cheaper house

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this Christmas might be the opportunity

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to buy the best deal in real estate ever

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and this turmoil that's happening in

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real estate where people expect now the

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fed's certainly not going to bail

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anything out this year they're going to

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keep hiking until they break something

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and that break by the way might not be

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another bank you know what that break

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could actually be the entire housing

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market it could be the housing market

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which that's where then people are

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speculating oh Jay Powell and the fed

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put will come in next year because you

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know by March or the summer of next year

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we'll be able to confirm that yes indeed

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inflation has trended towards two

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percent we're on the path to two percent

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already there or they pull out flexible

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average inflation targeting and what do

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we end up having we have a j-pal bailout

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of real estate and all of a sudden you

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start seeing rates fall and people

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getting really excited about real estate

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again that's all speculation who knows

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but that's what people are believing

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right now that could happen and we're

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seeing exactly that in the real estate

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market I mean we heard Lennar and uh

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well Lennar the home builder talk about

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Boise and Austin hitting the complete uh

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poops and their real estate market

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essentially hitting a wall uh buyers all

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of a sudden are gone active listings are

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plummeting in terms of price relative to

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sold comps that's a scary mode when all

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of a sudden actives are selling for less

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than sold and when we were in those

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markets we felt exactly the same thing

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real estate is all about people and

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being local and we're seeing it in

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almost every single market now we're

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starting to see it in NorCal we're

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starting to see it in SoCal we're seeing

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it in Florida the actives are starting

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to come in softer than the pendings

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that's probably because of the normal

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back to school buyer demand being gone

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and now the active listings are sitting

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they're not selling and people are like

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oh crap winter is coming

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but that turmoil is also leading to this

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apology that I have to make because I

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think because it's becoming very clear

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that there could be massive

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opportunities in real estate this winter

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since the j-pal meeting we have gotten

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absolutely destroyed with emails from

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people asking us about their investment

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and their ability to invest and the

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timing of their investment and

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everything related to their investments

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into house hack now obviously you should

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read the prospectus slash offering

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circular that's available at

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househack.com it's a fundraise that

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we're doing for my real estate startup

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at a one-to-one valuation keep in mind

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they're obviously processing fees and

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other things that go into raising money

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so net of that but outside of that it's

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a great company and a great valuation

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it's my expectation but I think what's

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happening is more people are getting

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interested in diversifying in real

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estate so much so that now our payment

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processor can't keep up

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that is we're so inundated with people

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trying to get in that our payment

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processor is like whoa whoa whoa this is

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way more than we expected we can't

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handle this and so now we're we

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basically just have to apologize and ask

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for time to get back to you so we expect

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to be able to get to everybody's

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situation within the next week but it's

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not going to be within the next 24 hours

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it'll certainly we'll be able to have

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whatever questions you have resolved

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within the next two weeks we don't think

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we're going to close the round or

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anything for probably at this rate for

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at least the next 30 days that's the

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goal so we can make sure we get

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everybody's inquiring processed but it's

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really interesting because we're seeing

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these crazy market dynamics actually

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translate directly into this demand for

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investing in house hack that's at least

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what it feels like I can't know with

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certainty but we are here's what we do

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know we know that certain markets in

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real estate are hitting a wall we know

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and therefore markets are fear saying a

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Paul volcker because what do we know we

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know that there aren't going to be any

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cuts no Cuts soon obviously we should

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put a little asterisk here because the

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asterisk is unless break right if

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something breaks

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then we might get cut soon but then you

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have bigger problems TS Lombard our

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famous bear what are they saying they're

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saying the best thing for risk assets is

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a slow decline in rates next year the

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worst thing for risk assets is oh crap

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we broke something in some kind of

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recession

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this is very interesting since they're

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sort of your resident bear the resident

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Bayer was saying you don't want quick

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and Rapid Cuts well now we're feeling a

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wall hit in real estate people are

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seeing that as an opportunity to finally

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buy real estate but you have to be able

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to buy real estate and frankly most

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people don't want to pay eight percent

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on a mortgage today we just ran the

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numbers on a 780 000 house which is like

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a regular three and two in California or

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maybe like a four and two in Austin or

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whatever we ran the numbers on this uh

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we used a one percent 1.2 property tax

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rate but we ran the numbers on a 780 000

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house and we wanted to find out what

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would your payment be on this and how

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much money do you have to make to

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qualify for this at a 30 front end 35

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front end ratio ignore some of that but

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assuming 10 percent down

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assuming a half point in mortgage

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insurance which means your rate is not

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eight percent it's actually eight point

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five percent again assuming 10 percent

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down and a 1.25 uh 1.2 ish percent

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property tax rate people are gonna have

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to pay somewhere around six grand a

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month just to be able to buy this kind

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of property there's no way you can

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Finance this right now people who are

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financing or financing this and they're

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underwater uh with their payments on a

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monthly basis if they're renting out

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these properties which you're not

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supposed to anyway unless you're putting

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20 25 down

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and I think what people are doing is

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they're speculating on the cuts but

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right now the Market's going uh-uh don't

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plan on Cuts right now we're dealing

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with basically Paul volcker over here is

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when it feels like that's the sentiment

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right now so we're getting people saying

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you know what Hey Kevin you do it that's

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what it feels like again I don't know if

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that's exactly what's happening that

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this turmoil is leading to all of these

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emails and inquiries but we're getting

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blown up obviously learn more at

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househack.com and again I apologize we

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have to ask you for patience when you go

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through the portal by the way we have

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now removed all fees to invest so

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there's no credit card fee there's no

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ACH fee there's no wire fee nothing

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it is if you want the credit card

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rewards you can do that is cheaper for

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house hack at the moment if you just ACH

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or wire but that's your choice we'll

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leave that on you if you want to Apple

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pay you could literally Apple pay to

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invest right now in housing it's kind of

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wild uh a quick reminder though don't

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press the transact button multiple times

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people are getting a lot of like there's

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some cases where people are hitting the

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button multiple times to invest and then

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they see on their uh statement they'll

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see like minus 10K minus 10K minus 10K

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uh and and then these will be pending

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transactions we expect that these will

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end up being failed transactions and

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like only one will end up going through

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but this will all get resolved and just

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a quick little thing that we're finding

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is some people are getting a little

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excited to invest uh and uh if you if

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you push the button too much you might

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end up seeing a few more pendings than

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you're supposed to be seeing but again

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all this kind of stuff is resolvable it

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is mind-blowing to us that a payment

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processor that has worked with over 200

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different funds or actually I think

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thousands of clients they say they have

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but I thought they've done over 200

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foots I don't even know which number it

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is but the point is it's surprising to

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me that they're inundated to the point

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right now where where we can't get all

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of the answers but I want you to know

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our entire staff is working on helping

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everybody as much as possible and we

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really think part of this massive surge

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in demand is potentially because of

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Market turmoil and I want to be clear

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about this this is something else that

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we've been talking about today is that

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really what you want to do is and

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everybody says this but nobody really

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does it right

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remember the phrase be fearful when

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people are greedy be greedy when people

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are fearful the fear is starting let me

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give you an example we hit up a seller

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because we saw the comps in the

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neighborhood were somewhere around 570

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to 600 000 so we're like hey maybe we

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can pay around 570 for yours it doesn't

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need that much work if it's worth six we

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put 30k in it's 100K wedge you know we

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were just spitballing and uh so I was

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like okay yeah we'll take it and one of

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the first things I usually do when I

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when somebody's like oh yeah yeah I'll

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take your offer as soon as I think that

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I'm like hmm sounds like I'm overpaying

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let's offer less which is just part of

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the game right so that seller said you

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know what never mind we had a closer

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look at some of the active comps there's

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actually some active competition that's

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not selling at like the 550 level and

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we're worried if they end up selling for

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less and that really caps what our wedge

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is on the deal and so that seller's been

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reaching out going okay okay okay okay

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how about uh we sell it to you well

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that's the comp value so they come back

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and they go how about we sell it to you

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for 460. can we do a deal at 460. you

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said 470 how about 460. no no no no like

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we're like in the low fours like no we

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can't go down that low but you know what

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we can do for you 450.

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didn't talk to him for a few days Kevin

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how about 4 30.

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and now like the agents reaching out

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going should we write it at 4 20. it

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sounds like there might be an appetite

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to go for that I'm like this right here

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has not happened since 2010 for me and I

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remember this happening because we

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actually had sort of a double dip

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recession uh it was nominal but it was

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basically you had your your that's not

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really double dip it's more like that

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there you go so you had your 09 0809

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crash then you had a little bit of a

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recovery and then all of a sudden an oh

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like 10 you kind of start getting this

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crash again which bottomed out in 11 at

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least in our Market out here and that's

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when I felt this kind of stuff where the

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sellers are just like please I need to

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get out of this property nobody else

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wants to buy that's the time to buy and

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of course you have to insulate yourself

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with wedge right that's the beautiful

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thing about the wedge is when you buy a

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property that's in a 550 000

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neighborhood let's say instead of six

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let's call it 550 you buy it for four

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you're into it for I don't know 4 30

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because you could put 40 000 or thirty

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thousand dollars into it let's say now

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you have a hundred twenty thousand

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dollar wedge right so you're into it for

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430 you're in a 550 neighborhood now all

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of a sudden the market drops I don't

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know ten percent let's say that's 55k 20

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that's a hundred and ten thousand

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dollars well if the market drops twenty

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percent twenty percent decline what does

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that get you to that actually brings you

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down to 440. look at that market could

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drop 20 in that case and you are still

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positive on the deal those are the deals

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you want to be buying this winter unless

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of course you think the pain of the real

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estate crisis will last even longer and

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this is where you also have to be

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vigilant you know if I go into November

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and everything's doing this you know you

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don't want to catch a falling knife

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either you don't want to go all in you

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have to be patient all the cost average

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but anyway uh that's our job we do this

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on a daily basis if you want to learn

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more you can email us at IR

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househack.com but I want to be clear

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this treasury market disaster where

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we're seeing potentially the uninversion

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of the yield curve I think we're only

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about 59 basis points inverted right now

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which is almost half of what it

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previously was that's usually the

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painful part by the way

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don't worry about that if I lost you but

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the point is

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if you want to invest with us go to

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househack.com learn more read the

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prospectus obviously there are obviously

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risks it's a startup but we're doing our

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best to mitigate those risks we believe

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this interest rate turmoil is leading to

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this massive inundation of emails we're

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getting a lot of people very excited

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they're like Kevin Kevin I I want to

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invest now I don't want the round to

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close

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we can take your breath we should

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without a problem or without a doubt

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have 30 days here so we're good we'll

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get everybody resolved so I just want to

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give everybody that confidence that

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faith that yes this Market uncertainty

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appears to be at least leading to some

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more interest in house hack and I want

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to apologize that we can't get back to

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everybody instantly as much as we would

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like to and there's a limit to how much

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control we have given that we have a

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payment processor involved and so we're

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working with them we'll work 24 7. but

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you know other companies are working

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normal business hours so we're a little

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bit strong uh or stuck or by the

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parameters that they're working and

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that's okay we'll get it all resolved

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and we really thank you for your

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interest in house hack and quite frankly

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I wish you the best out there on the

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market because it's a wild time and I'll

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tell you it's Times Like These that make

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you want to diversify anyway thanks for

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watching we'll see in the next one bye

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