HOLY $#*T | complete turmoil....
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wow there is complete and utter turmoil
and that turmoil is also going to lead
to an apology from me so let's talk
about these in order and number one ever
since we heard Jerome Powell yesterday
suggests that we might essentially have
higher rates forever we have seen a
complete dumping of Treasury bonds we've
seen the 10-year Skyrocket about 13
basis points we're over four and a half
percent on the 10-year now real estate
mortgage rates just skyrocketed over
eight percent leading a lot of people to
believe that real estate is about to
actually hit the toilet or take a
massive poopsie-doopsy this winter Black
Friday this year might not be about
getting a cheaper TV it might actually
be about getting a cheaper house
this Christmas might be the opportunity
to buy the best deal in real estate ever
and this turmoil that's happening in
real estate where people expect now the
fed's certainly not going to bail
anything out this year they're going to
keep hiking until they break something
and that break by the way might not be
another bank you know what that break
could actually be the entire housing
market it could be the housing market
which that's where then people are
speculating oh Jay Powell and the fed
put will come in next year because you
know by March or the summer of next year
we'll be able to confirm that yes indeed
inflation has trended towards two
percent we're on the path to two percent
already there or they pull out flexible
average inflation targeting and what do
we end up having we have a j-pal bailout
of real estate and all of a sudden you
start seeing rates fall and people
getting really excited about real estate
again that's all speculation who knows
but that's what people are believing
right now that could happen and we're
seeing exactly that in the real estate
market I mean we heard Lennar and uh
well Lennar the home builder talk about
Boise and Austin hitting the complete uh
poops and their real estate market
essentially hitting a wall uh buyers all
of a sudden are gone active listings are
plummeting in terms of price relative to
sold comps that's a scary mode when all
of a sudden actives are selling for less
than sold and when we were in those
markets we felt exactly the same thing
real estate is all about people and
being local and we're seeing it in
almost every single market now we're
starting to see it in NorCal we're
starting to see it in SoCal we're seeing
it in Florida the actives are starting
to come in softer than the pendings
that's probably because of the normal
back to school buyer demand being gone
and now the active listings are sitting
they're not selling and people are like
oh crap winter is coming
but that turmoil is also leading to this
apology that I have to make because I
think because it's becoming very clear
that there could be massive
opportunities in real estate this winter
since the j-pal meeting we have gotten
absolutely destroyed with emails from
people asking us about their investment
and their ability to invest and the
timing of their investment and
everything related to their investments
into house hack now obviously you should
read the prospectus slash offering
circular that's available at
househack.com it's a fundraise that
we're doing for my real estate startup
at a one-to-one valuation keep in mind
they're obviously processing fees and
other things that go into raising money
so net of that but outside of that it's
a great company and a great valuation
it's my expectation but I think what's
happening is more people are getting
interested in diversifying in real
estate so much so that now our payment
processor can't keep up
that is we're so inundated with people
trying to get in that our payment
processor is like whoa whoa whoa this is
way more than we expected we can't
handle this and so now we're we
basically just have to apologize and ask
for time to get back to you so we expect
to be able to get to everybody's
situation within the next week but it's
not going to be within the next 24 hours
it'll certainly we'll be able to have
whatever questions you have resolved
within the next two weeks we don't think
we're going to close the round or
anything for probably at this rate for
at least the next 30 days that's the
goal so we can make sure we get
everybody's inquiring processed but it's
really interesting because we're seeing
these crazy market dynamics actually
translate directly into this demand for
investing in house hack that's at least
what it feels like I can't know with
certainty but we are here's what we do
know we know that certain markets in
real estate are hitting a wall we know
and therefore markets are fear saying a
Paul volcker because what do we know we
know that there aren't going to be any
cuts no Cuts soon obviously we should
put a little asterisk here because the
asterisk is unless break right if
something breaks
then we might get cut soon but then you
have bigger problems TS Lombard our
famous bear what are they saying they're
saying the best thing for risk assets is
a slow decline in rates next year the
worst thing for risk assets is oh crap
we broke something in some kind of
recession
this is very interesting since they're
sort of your resident bear the resident
Bayer was saying you don't want quick
and Rapid Cuts well now we're feeling a
wall hit in real estate people are
seeing that as an opportunity to finally
buy real estate but you have to be able
to buy real estate and frankly most
people don't want to pay eight percent
on a mortgage today we just ran the
numbers on a 780 000 house which is like
a regular three and two in California or
maybe like a four and two in Austin or
whatever we ran the numbers on this uh
we used a one percent 1.2 property tax
rate but we ran the numbers on a 780 000
house and we wanted to find out what
would your payment be on this and how
much money do you have to make to
qualify for this at a 30 front end 35
front end ratio ignore some of that but
assuming 10 percent down
assuming a half point in mortgage
insurance which means your rate is not
eight percent it's actually eight point
five percent again assuming 10 percent
down and a 1.25 uh 1.2 ish percent
property tax rate people are gonna have
to pay somewhere around six grand a
month just to be able to buy this kind
of property there's no way you can
Finance this right now people who are
financing or financing this and they're
underwater uh with their payments on a
monthly basis if they're renting out
these properties which you're not
supposed to anyway unless you're putting
20 25 down
and I think what people are doing is
they're speculating on the cuts but
right now the Market's going uh-uh don't
plan on Cuts right now we're dealing
with basically Paul volcker over here is
when it feels like that's the sentiment
right now so we're getting people saying
you know what Hey Kevin you do it that's
what it feels like again I don't know if
that's exactly what's happening that
this turmoil is leading to all of these
emails and inquiries but we're getting
blown up obviously learn more at
househack.com and again I apologize we
have to ask you for patience when you go
through the portal by the way we have
now removed all fees to invest so
there's no credit card fee there's no
ACH fee there's no wire fee nothing
it is if you want the credit card
rewards you can do that is cheaper for
house hack at the moment if you just ACH
or wire but that's your choice we'll
leave that on you if you want to Apple
pay you could literally Apple pay to
invest right now in housing it's kind of
wild uh a quick reminder though don't
press the transact button multiple times
people are getting a lot of like there's
some cases where people are hitting the
button multiple times to invest and then
they see on their uh statement they'll
see like minus 10K minus 10K minus 10K
uh and and then these will be pending
transactions we expect that these will
end up being failed transactions and
like only one will end up going through
but this will all get resolved and just
a quick little thing that we're finding
is some people are getting a little
excited to invest uh and uh if you if
you push the button too much you might
end up seeing a few more pendings than
you're supposed to be seeing but again
all this kind of stuff is resolvable it
is mind-blowing to us that a payment
processor that has worked with over 200
different funds or actually I think
thousands of clients they say they have
but I thought they've done over 200
foots I don't even know which number it
is but the point is it's surprising to
me that they're inundated to the point
right now where where we can't get all
of the answers but I want you to know
our entire staff is working on helping
everybody as much as possible and we
really think part of this massive surge
in demand is potentially because of
Market turmoil and I want to be clear
about this this is something else that
we've been talking about today is that
really what you want to do is and
everybody says this but nobody really
does it right
remember the phrase be fearful when
people are greedy be greedy when people
are fearful the fear is starting let me
give you an example we hit up a seller
because we saw the comps in the
neighborhood were somewhere around 570
to 600 000 so we're like hey maybe we
can pay around 570 for yours it doesn't
need that much work if it's worth six we
put 30k in it's 100K wedge you know we
were just spitballing and uh so I was
like okay yeah we'll take it and one of
the first things I usually do when I
when somebody's like oh yeah yeah I'll
take your offer as soon as I think that
I'm like hmm sounds like I'm overpaying
let's offer less which is just part of
the game right so that seller said you
know what never mind we had a closer
look at some of the active comps there's
actually some active competition that's
not selling at like the 550 level and
we're worried if they end up selling for
less and that really caps what our wedge
is on the deal and so that seller's been
reaching out going okay okay okay okay
how about uh we sell it to you well
that's the comp value so they come back
and they go how about we sell it to you
for 460. can we do a deal at 460. you
said 470 how about 460. no no no no like
we're like in the low fours like no we
can't go down that low but you know what
we can do for you 450.
didn't talk to him for a few days Kevin
how about 4 30.
and now like the agents reaching out
going should we write it at 4 20. it
sounds like there might be an appetite
to go for that I'm like this right here
has not happened since 2010 for me and I
remember this happening because we
actually had sort of a double dip
recession uh it was nominal but it was
basically you had your your that's not
really double dip it's more like that
there you go so you had your 09 0809
crash then you had a little bit of a
recovery and then all of a sudden an oh
like 10 you kind of start getting this
crash again which bottomed out in 11 at
least in our Market out here and that's
when I felt this kind of stuff where the
sellers are just like please I need to
get out of this property nobody else
wants to buy that's the time to buy and
of course you have to insulate yourself
with wedge right that's the beautiful
thing about the wedge is when you buy a
property that's in a 550 000
neighborhood let's say instead of six
let's call it 550 you buy it for four
you're into it for I don't know 4 30
because you could put 40 000 or thirty
thousand dollars into it let's say now
you have a hundred twenty thousand
dollar wedge right so you're into it for
430 you're in a 550 neighborhood now all
of a sudden the market drops I don't
know ten percent let's say that's 55k 20
that's a hundred and ten thousand
dollars well if the market drops twenty
percent twenty percent decline what does
that get you to that actually brings you
down to 440. look at that market could
drop 20 in that case and you are still
positive on the deal those are the deals
you want to be buying this winter unless
of course you think the pain of the real
estate crisis will last even longer and
this is where you also have to be
vigilant you know if I go into November
and everything's doing this you know you
don't want to catch a falling knife
either you don't want to go all in you
have to be patient all the cost average
but anyway uh that's our job we do this
on a daily basis if you want to learn
more you can email us at IR
househack.com but I want to be clear
this treasury market disaster where
we're seeing potentially the uninversion
of the yield curve I think we're only
about 59 basis points inverted right now
which is almost half of what it
previously was that's usually the
painful part by the way
don't worry about that if I lost you but
the point is
if you want to invest with us go to
househack.com learn more read the
prospectus obviously there are obviously
risks it's a startup but we're doing our
best to mitigate those risks we believe
this interest rate turmoil is leading to
this massive inundation of emails we're
getting a lot of people very excited
they're like Kevin Kevin I I want to
invest now I don't want the round to
close
we can take your breath we should
without a problem or without a doubt
have 30 days here so we're good we'll
get everybody resolved so I just want to
give everybody that confidence that
faith that yes this Market uncertainty
appears to be at least leading to some
more interest in house hack and I want
to apologize that we can't get back to
everybody instantly as much as we would
like to and there's a limit to how much
control we have given that we have a
payment processor involved and so we're
working with them we'll work 24 7. but
you know other companies are working
normal business hours so we're a little
bit strong uh or stuck or by the
parameters that they're working and
that's okay we'll get it all resolved
and we really thank you for your
interest in house hack and quite frankly
I wish you the best out there on the
market because it's a wild time and I'll
tell you it's Times Like These that make
you want to diversify anyway thanks for
watching we'll see in the next one bye
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