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Major AI Data Center Warnings. Nvidia, Coreweave, SMCI

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The question right now is, is Nvidia

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orchestrating a Ponzi scheme with

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Coreweave? Now, this is a really hard

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opening for a stock and company that I

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actually love. I'm a big fan of Jensen

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Wong. I think Nvidia is actually selling

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for a pretty reasonable valuation right

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now. About a 1.3 peg, which is pretty

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low given that they don't manufacture

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their own chips. They just design them.

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This is how they get to these 75% gross

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margins which are amazing margins mind

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you. You know they bring like 40 plus

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percent to the bottom line. This is a

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cashg generating machine. It's a

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fantastic very rich wellpositioned moed

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company with cuda. But what's

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fascinating is there's some thought that

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maybe is purposefully propping up

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coreweave which we've made videos about.

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I'll give you a little recap. to make

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sure that the value of Nvidia chips

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doesn't fall. Now, just a few days ago

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in my Corey video, I showed you the clip

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where Jensen Wong tells us that the

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Hopper infrastructure H100 chips might

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be difficult to give away after

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Blackwell comes out, which is a nice

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argument that Blackwell's going to be

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really strong and good, but it's a

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really bad sign for anybody wanting to

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invest billions to hundreds of billions

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of dollars into server infrastructure.

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This is a potential very large red flag

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that the market for artificial

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intelligence is substantially slowing

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down at least data center capex. Uh for

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example, we heard the CEO uh or sorry

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the chairman of Alibaba. We've already

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covered this, but to reiterate the

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chairperson of Alibaba telling us, hey,

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we might be seeing a bubble in AI

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infrastructure. Combine that with the TD

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Cohen article where what do we hear? Oh,

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Microsoft is scaling back some of their

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investments in data centers. Now, that

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wasn't exactly how they led their

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article. TD Cohen's analysis actually

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led by talking about Meta and Google

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stepping in uh in place of Microsoft.

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And Microsoft is still bullish LLMs.

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They want to create their own LLM

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software to compete with Open AI even

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though they're investors in Open AI. Uh

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but TD Cohen was bullish in that they

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they actually see this this idea of a

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data center pullbacks over at Microsoft

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as maybe just a shift in priorities for

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Microsoft. Now most people didn't talk

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about that but the the article while it

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did reiterate that yes Microsoft has one

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walked away from 2 gawatt of capacity in

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both the eur US and Europe in the last 6

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months that were in process to be leased

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it has also deferred and canceled

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existing data centers in both the US and

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in Europe last month. So in other words

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this is why we got the news that there

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were actually more

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cancellations than we had first heard

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because we first heard about this you

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know a couple months ago and now we're

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getting this news again. So it's not

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just what's been happening in the last 6

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months, it's also what's happening in

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the last month and it's sort of getting

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worse. Now their view is that the

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pullback in new capacity leasing by

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Microsoft was largely driven by the

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decision not to support incremental

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OpenAI training workloads. However, we

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now now I'm going to throw in a note

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here. At the same time, if Microsoft

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doesn't want to support incremental

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OpenAI workloads because they modified

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their multi-year contract with OpenAI

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and said, "Hey, go ahead and use other

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companies like let's say a corewave and

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which we'll talk about that at Nvidia

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again in just a moment. This is very

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important to it, although somewhat

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tangential. Open AAI can now use other

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companies other than Microsoft. This

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thesis would make sense from TD Cohen,

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but Microsoft has now announced that

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they want their own LLMs rather than

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just rely on open AI, which is

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interesting because why are they

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cancelling leases on data centers, old

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and new, and walking away from deals if

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they're also wanting to build out their

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own LLMs? Well, it's likely because,

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hey, they want the delicious data that

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comes from having your own LLM, but they

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don't necessarily need additional

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capacity because capacity is becoming

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cheap. And that's the problem of the

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potential quote unquote Nvidia Ponzi. I

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know it's a hard line. I'll explain why

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I'm saying that in just a moment. So to

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me, I don't think we can say AI demand

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up and people use GPT or Grock or

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whatever, therefore AI stock up. I think

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the days of that are over. I think we

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can all agree that we like using the

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GPTs or the Grocks or whatever for

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encyclopedic purposes, for

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brainstorming, for ideiation, for legal

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review, contract review, or just doing

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stuff we don't want to do. This is

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fantastic, but does it necessarily mean

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we need even more data centers than

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we've already built out? And the answer

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here seems to be mostly and resoundingly

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no. That we may have already hit some

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form of capacity. That said, uh TD Cohen

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actually think this is an thinks this is

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an opportunity for Google to step in uh

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or Meta fill in and backfill sort of

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some of that canceled capacity. But

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again, the point of that is, hey, wait a

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second. If the other companies are

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filling in, then then then you're still

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building just like the chairperson of

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Alibaba says, hey, it's still getting

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built out even though we don't need it.

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Somebody's picking it up. Somebody's

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spending the money on it. It's probably

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not the greatest ROI. So my argument is

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while Google and Meta might pick up some

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of these leases. I think Microsoft is

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sending you a signal that the money

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isn't in the data centers. The money is

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in a collecting data from people. By the

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way, who knows? Maybe Microsoft will buy

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23 and me and get all your genetic data.

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Which, by the way, in 2021, I got

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interviewed by NASDAQ about 23 and me.

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And I told them it was an overvalued

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stock and you shouldn't buy it. You can

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actually look that story up if you

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NASDAQ meet Kevin Pafrath spa 23 and me.

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I'm like no this this thing doesn't make

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money. There it is. First line it is

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right there. VG Acquisition Corp Spack

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deal with 23 and me is two. Uh and then

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it goes into like speculative is I think

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what the full title is. You can go check

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it out yourself. Uh but they did that

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interview with me uh analyzing the spack

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deal with Meet Kevin. But anyway, what's

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really interesting

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is we we have plenty of signals at the

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moment that the data center buildout is

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probably

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overhyped. But now we have something

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else interesting that's happening. We

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have Nvidia saying they are going to buy

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uh up to $250 million of coreweave stock

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at IPO. Now, this is really interesting

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because what that does is it creates a

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floor. Just this morning, we heard that

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Cororeweave is actually downsizing their

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IPO from about $2.7 billion of expected

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proceeds down to $1.5 billion. And in

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addition to that, the price is going to

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be lower than expected. Nvidia now, by

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the way, coming in to backs stop this at

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an anchor of $40 per share. Now, I find

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this interesting because

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Nvidia makes a lot of money selling to

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companies like Coreweave, and this isn't

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solely about Coreweave. It's about the

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entire industry. Think about this, okay?

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Let's just take this to the extreme for

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a moment. I always think when you do an

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analysis, you should assume the middle,

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but study the extreme, right? So, in an

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example, you lose your job and we go

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into a recession and you can't make your

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payments. What is the extreme solution

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you're going to have? When you analyze

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that before things go

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poopy, you know how to prepare yourself,

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right? Okay. That doesn't mean that's

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going to happen. So, if Coree IPOs at

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$40 and Nvidia doesn't back them and

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Coreweave drops

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to, I don't know, zero. Okay, let's just

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go extreme. Go to zero. corewave goes to

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zero. Well, what happens? Well, now all

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of a sudden the value of every data

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center in the country plummets, gets

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written down because of a failed

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Coreweave IPO. the industry cannot allow

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Coreweave to fail, which in a weird way

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is actually bullish for Coree's IPO

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because you've got all these

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institutions that have so much risk of

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Nvidia stock going down. Think about any

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VC who's investing in these private data

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centers or even honestly XAI in their

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Tennessee data center. If Coree went to

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zero, the Tennessee data center that XAI

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owns would be worth substantially less.

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new data center projects would come into

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question. And then guess what happens if

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somebody's like, "Hey, Nvidia, I want to

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buy 100,000 Blackwell chips to, you

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know, invest in a data center." Oh crap.

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But wait, the last company that did that

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with Hopper chips. You guys bankrupted

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them by coming out with too good of

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chips too rapidly. Well, why the hell

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would I buy Nvidia chips and go into

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making a data center? You're basically

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buying at peak bubble for data centers.

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So it is industry critical that the

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coreweave IPO goes well even if you

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don't care about the core IPO if

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Coreweave plummets. It's bad news for

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Nvidia, AMD, and any of the relateds.

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Super micro computer for the

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infrastructure, Vertive, for water

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cooling. I don't really care what it is.

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Dell for the 4% of their business that's

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exposed to AI data center servers

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anyway. It's bad. So, this is where the

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Ponzi thesis comes from. Let's take

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other money and funnel it into Coreweave

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to prop Coreweee up to make it seem

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successful and then, you know, pay out

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shareholders if the share price goes

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down to make sure the whole system still

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seems

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sound. Meanwhile, it's propped up by

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Fugazi just to prevent the entire thing

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from from falling more substantially.

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Now, I'm not here saying Cororee is

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going to go to zero, okay? I'm just

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saying even coreweave going down 20% and

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let's say it IPOs. So usually what they

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do is they'll IPO at 40 bucks, but

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they'll probably be up at like $60 when

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it first trades because they

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purposefully restrict the shares. And we

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know Nvidia is putting a $250 million

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floor in at 40. So people will speculate

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this up to $60 or $80 or whatever. This

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is why you almost always see an IPO.

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It's like it's up 50% on the first day

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of trading. That's all part of the

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marketing because the businesses want

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the article that's like look at how

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successful our IPO was. Even though

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they'll raise less money because they're

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not going to benefit from that run. It's

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the people buying it who will benefit

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from that run. Cororeeve will raise less

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money. It'll still be good enough

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because remember they've got about two

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to that's like 2.8 to3 billion of bills

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coming due this year. They don't have

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the money. $ 1.5 billion is going to

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help them and then they can always issue

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more shares in six months. Although in

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six months that's when your insiders are

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going to have a lock up expiration. So

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you probably are going to be like more

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like 3 months when before they start to

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raise money. And the issue with that is

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how much is that stock potentially going

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to fall and what kind of downstream

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effects is that going to have to other

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stocks. So, I'm not saying because I

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think there's going to be a lot of

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support for trying to keep corewave

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propped up because it's so industry

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critical. So, I'm not saying the stock

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is definitely going to go down. I'm not

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saying you should, you know, short at

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day one because you could get totally

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hosed by, you know, what I think is at

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play here. But my point is what I would

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encourage is watch the financials of

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Coree and the price action because the

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price action of Coreweave and the

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financials of Cororeweave will give you

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a really good barometer as to the future

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of investing in chip plays like Nvidia.

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So if I'm let's say a a future Nvidia

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buyer, what am I looking for? Well, I'm

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looking at, hey, if Coreweave

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plummets, maybe I'm less interested in

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Nvidia at today's price and I'll wait

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for it to be $80 or $60 or whatever. If

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Coree takes off, it stays up, they do

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their secondary offering, it keeps

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cranking. 6 months from now, they have

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their insider transactions that unlock

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and after those unlock, they're still

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doing well and they're able to raise

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money and invest more into data centers.

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Great. that's supportive of Nvidia

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stock. So, think about this as sort of a

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uh a canary, if you will. The canary has

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arrived to the proverbial coal mine. Why

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not advertise these things that you told

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us here? I feel like nobody else knows

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about this. We'll we'll try a little

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advertising and see how it goes.

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Congratulations, man. You have done so

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much. People love you. People look up to

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you. Kevin Pra there, financial analyst

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and YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always great

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to get your take.

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