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Uber and Lyft Issue WARNING to Tesla.

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you won't believe what the CEO of uber

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just had to say about Tesla and what

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Lyft just had to say about the future of

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robotaxi pricing well at least R hailing

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pricing in this video we're going to go

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through that as well as a surprising

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exit at Tesla uh let's review all of

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this together here I want to start by

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mentioning that this post at least

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according to Troy uh was posted on

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Twitter by Sawyer you you can see this

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here uh somebody says why are you

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posting this to Troy and Troy replies

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because it's Tesla related news people

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should know about initially Sawyer who's

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a pro Tesla poster generally just

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positive items tweeted but later deleted

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this therefore the discussion is gone so

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I decided to tweet it says Troy now

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that's really interesting I I saw this

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and I thought to myself okay what's

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what's this post that Sawyer posted and

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then deleted and then we'll get into

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Uber uh and lift so this is Rich Auto uh

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in his post on LinkedIn it's the head of

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product launches he says after nearly 7

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weeks I resigned from Tesla or sorry

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seven years I resigned from Tesla that's

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interesting not fired resigned now

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sometimes people get exited and then

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they put in a letter of res resignation

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because elon's demanding it so we don't

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know it could be a faux firing right but

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he says why leave he says Tesla is a

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company I love and I've given so much to

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but it's taken its pound of to flesh

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great companies are made up of an equal

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part of great people and great products

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and great products are only possible he

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says when the people are thriving in

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other words he's implying that maybe the

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people are not thriving and therefore

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products are not going to thrive quote

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the recent layoffs that are rocking the

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company and its morale have thrown this

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harmony out of balance and it's hard to

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see the long game now that's scary to me

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I understand people were going to look

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at this and go oh it's just fud fear

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uncertainty and doubt but remember fud

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does not equal fake news and so when

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Rich Auto the head of product launches

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right before a product launch on 88

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August 8th Robo taxi launch when the

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head of product launch is like you know

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what I know uh I know we're literally um

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three months we are three months away

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from the robo taxi launch and 3 months

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before the robo taxi launch the head of

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product launches was like peace I'm

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out it's hard to spin that as a

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positive so this really got me thinking

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I mean then he talks about I was lucky

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to work with people and collaborate the

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cultures are great hopefully soon Tesla

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and all the people affected by a layoffs

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can get back on their feet uh you know

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hit me up if if uh you know we can

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improve like if I can help whatever but

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anyway what I wrote is qu quite frankly

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this Henning guy

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is colti colti with a Capital C see Troy

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shares the story and then you get colti

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Henning whose last literally 75% of his

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last four posts are pro Tesla content

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that he's either reposting and about 50%

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of the last like I don't know a dozen

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posts are basically only Pro

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Tesla and this person is basically

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implying that Troy should not be sharing

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that the head of product launches is

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leaving because

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well basically that's bad news why why

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would you share that and I'm like bro

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all news should be shared not just

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one-sided

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news and so my guess is I didn't see the

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Sawyer post but my guess is Sawyer

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posted the story and then deleted it

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because he was swarmed with negative

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sentiment like I get swarmed with

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negative sentiment all the time people

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are like fud you're just trying to pump

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the short it's like I'm I've got Longs

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in Tesla I'm not short Tesla you know so

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like but the thing about me is I don't

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just talk about my book I'll actually

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talk bad about my book when the data is

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bad I try to be as fact-based neutral as

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possible and you know what if that means

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I have less followers because I'm in my

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opinion sharing just the truth and the

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focus truth so be it uh so the echo

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chamber prefers and amplifies uh stuff

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like oops that's the wrong screenshot

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hold on let me put the right screenshot

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up there uh because that is a good one

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and and and keep in mind an echo chamber

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is a very bad way to invest because

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really what happens is in an echo

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chamber you're

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basically removing any negative uh

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information Discovery and that's really

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bad because if you

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remove any of the negative information

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Discovery then what you're left with is

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only positive information and then

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you're kind of in this situation of like

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H why is the stock going

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down and you don't know then and that's

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bad like you should know so here's the

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echo chamber uh instead the chamber I

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should say the echo chamber prefers to

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amplify this so soer just puts the

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eyeballs which is a very Elon Musk esque

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thing uh and it's I think Elon is

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pivoting to Tesla from selling cars to

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selling rides and the resulting value

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creation will be unlike anything the

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world has ever seen before that's very

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Elon Muses already uh and so what I

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wanted to do was look at all right if

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ride hailing is going to be such a great

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uh uh you know pivot for for Tesla and

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that's the future of of Tesla's value

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drivers first of all let's consider the

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source who's promoting this let's see

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what kind of tweets they post uh first

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principles okay that's that's very Elon

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Musk X software engineer Tesla 23 plus

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shareholder venture capitalist and

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entrepreneur and founder he is pin tweet

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Tesla Robo taxi unveil is probably now

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just 6 months away close good prediction

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it's actually closer to like eight nine

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months away but that's pretty good uh

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Elon is pivoting the entire company to

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selling rides probably increasingly

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being built by Tesla humanoid robots

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this this is actually quite delusional

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to think that the humanoid robots are

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really doing anything at this point but

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uh uh but anyway then He suggests that

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uh people who count car deliveries are

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just

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Knuckleheads ah okay uh and uh and and

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basically uh promote hit pieces from

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Reuters that's the mainstream media and

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some laid-off employees

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rants okay I get it I get it bro you're

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a Tesla shareholder I got that loud and

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clear in fact I'm pretty sure all you do

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on your account is talk about buying

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hold Tesla Tesla vehicles Elon Musk

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Tesla cyber cab predictions you this guy

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makes predictions every single day about

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Tesla Elon playing with Tesla Q all

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right this is quite exhausting every

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single day it's Elon stuff all right I

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got it all right it's a cultist fine so

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Robo taxi is going to be the big value

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then right so what do we have or what do

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we know about Robo taxis and the goal of

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some of the ride hailing companies okay

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so let's see well we have Lyft and we

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have Uber so let's take a look here Lyft

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is very popular it has A7 billion market

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cap that's 12th the size of uber Uber

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today's or Tesla today is down about

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1.3% which literally is the same as lift

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going to zero so if we're so excited

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about ride healing it's worth

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remembering that when Tesla stock farts

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1.3% you literally gain or delete an

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entire lift in valuation so I'm not

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convinced that ride hailing is really

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what I want to bet on Because unless you

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are the first to mind which really like

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uber is you're not getting the valuation

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premium so what does Uber say about

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pricing and and their growth I mean do

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do they have a lot of pricing power

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pricing is relatively flattish H got it

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so audience growth is up

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15% and pricing is flattish okay so

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basically net pricing is going down

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interesting okay

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what is Lyft saying about pricing we

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don't talk about it too much externally

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but we do it so we can actually bring

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prices down we want the highest volume

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oh great okay got it so Lyft and Uber

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are trying to get as much volume as

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possible even if that sacrifices

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price well that is capitalism after all

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right drw prices get more competitive

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get volume get more users in the system

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and potentially monetize in other ways

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than just rides the rides basically

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become worth less and less over time

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this is pre- robotaxi well did Uber say

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anything about robotaxi yes they did

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first they compl Tesla and FSD and then

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they say the goal is to expand markets

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safer rides lower prices the promise of

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autonomous vehicles is lowering prices

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we think that technology is going to

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take a lot of time to develop there are

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regulatory framework risks and it's

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going to be a long time a long

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transition period where you see a

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penetration of autonomous vehicles

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increase Uber then sh out out other

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competitors like wave we talked about

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wave in fact if you just go on ec.com

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you'll see wave here the UK startup we

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talked a little bit actually quite a bit

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about their neural Nets and how they can

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use uh their camera first endtoend

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neural Nets drive by wire but they can

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also integrate liar and radar which I

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thought was

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interesting by the way we first talked

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about this Uber earnings call a couple

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going to take time but the concern that

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I have is not only is that transition

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going to take time but in order for

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Tesla's Robo taxi to really take mental

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share from Lyft and Uber you're you're

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having to bet that Tesla's service is

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going to be so much better than Uber and

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lifts but the problem is do people

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really care like what do people care

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about first principles okay what do

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people care about first principles when

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you call a taxi you care about getting

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from point A to point B in reasonable

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safety and comfort

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that's it so then am I going to wait 5

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minutes longer for a

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Tesla when I can get an Uber you know

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faster no so we're not really going to

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compete on who's driving we're going to

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compete on speed and price and

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unfortunately that's going to become a

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commodity but it's not just that I also

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think there's a real I hate to say this

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risk to Tesla because this is going to

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be an ironic Loop okay so this is a

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reward for those of you who actually

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watch these to the

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end watch this okay if the future is

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Tesla's

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FSD uh then Uber could buy Tesla Robo

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taxis unless of course Tesla just Moes

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it all which I don't think they will

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since they're so open to licensing and

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selling Vehicles Uber could just buy

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Tesla Robo taxies put them in the Uber

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app and then when you go to order like

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an EV or an extra-- large Uber or a

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comfort Uber or Robo taxi Uber you could

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just get a Tesla through there so now

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all of a sudden you're still in Uber's

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ecosystem getting a Tesla Robo taxi but

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guess

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what what is Tesla's valuation then

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still distill down to does Tesla's

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valuation distill down to FSD no because

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in the future frankly all car companies

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will have full self-driving people will

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just pick the car for what it is a car

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so does Tesla's valuation go up because

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Uber is allowing you to Robo like ride

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hail a robo taxi through

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Uber

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no this affects people's ability or or

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the valuation of Tesla is affected by

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selling more cars and so once again we

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go down to selling more cars and

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Manufacturing cars at a higher

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margin that's what Tesla is Tesla is all

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about selling cars at a higher margin

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than anybody else can do it for

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and I still think that has serious

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valuation premium to it but can I really

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like if somebody's like Tesla's only a

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bet on robot taxis is that a bet I'm

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willing to make absolutely not I want

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that engineering expertise and seeing

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the robo taxi team get booted oh sorry

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not the robo taxi team the head of

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product launches uh leave after the

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supercharger team leaves it just is

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doesn't give me confidence that what's

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actually happening is that great to bet

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on because people aren't even willing to

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wait 3 months and they're basically

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yoloing their

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careers on Tesla's 88 event being a

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nothing burer that's scary can not

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