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Washington DC home prices absolutely

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collapsing because doge is going in

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firing any worker they can get their

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hands on here on this chart you could

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see an 8.6% decline in real estate

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prices in Washington DC since well I

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mean it is a year-over-year comparison

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but if you look at what the kesi letter

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says they say since Doge began its

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layoffs take a look at this folks as a

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real estate broker and well the CEO of a

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real estate company what kind of

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insights can we actually glean from the

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data to suggest is this because of Doge

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or real estate values collapsing in the

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DC area because of the Department of

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governmental efficiency going in

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potentially laying off as many workers

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as they get their hands on especially

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with Donald Trump's resignation offer

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which 75,000 federal workers have

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reportedly according to the Wall Street

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Journal accepted remember that

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resignation offer allows you to quote

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resign from your federal job where you

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typically a federal worker protections

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that don't allow you to get fired once

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you're pass your probationary period so

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instead Donald Trump offered those

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workers the opportunity to resign get

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pay between now through September for

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doing no work and meanwhile you can go

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find a different job or whatever if

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you'd like all you have to do is resign

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75,000 accepted and now potentially up

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to 200,000 federal workers on probation

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have been

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fired it's because while you're on

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probation you can still get fired that

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potentially

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includes

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Ariel Ariel Kane here hey Elon Musk your

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Doge minions just fired me in my col

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colleagues at cmmi we were working on

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improving maternal Health outcomes at a

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lower cost so less pregnant women would

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die each year in this country I think

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that's that's fewer anyway uh I thought

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that would fit nicely into your

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agenda the admin told the media

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yesterday that the Health and Human

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Services Cuts were targeted and didn't

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include scientists or people working on

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Medicare or Medicare

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well I know of scientists who got fired

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and I work on Medicaid just wanted to

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point out when you get things wrong like

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you

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requested of course there's a big

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discussion and commentary uh in here

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about oh well you know what

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organizations were you supporting or you

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don't fit into elon's agenda and blah

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blah blah blah all those debates we

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don't really have to get involved in

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right now what we need to talk about is

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are these layoffs in DC leading to a

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real estate collapse

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well one thing we know with certainty is

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that when people lose their jobs and

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they need to relocate because they're

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priced out of an area yes the likelihood

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is that you're going to have to move

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however we are also coming off of the

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backs of what I like to refer to as the

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covid bubble this is where we have a lot

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of people relocate from places like

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California to Texas or Florida we've

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actually seen a decline in real estate

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values in a lot of areas of the country

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as part of a downward Trend and parts of

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the country have actually been on an

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upward Trend since Co in fact I've been

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calling this the covid reversal quite

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frankly since covid if you know and

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you've been following me for years you

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know that when I started my company my

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real estate company uh in 2022 we said

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we're going to buy in the opposite of

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the covid reversal markets so when we

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started this company everybody was still

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flocking to Austin Texas and Florida uh

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under this impression that oh uh you

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know everybody's going there it's easy

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to build there but we know in real

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estate that when you overbuild in an

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area and you don't have this continued

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Catalyst to bring people into an area

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you end up with an over Supply after

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accelerating new construction and the

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prices come down and that's actually

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exactly what's happened in many parts of

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the country so we prefer to invest in

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the areas people were quote unquote

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fleeing from like California and what's

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fascinating is it's worth comparing the

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DC market and what's going on with quote

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unquote doge is Doge leading to this

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real estate price collapse what's

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actually been happening with a broader

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Trend because this is going to give us

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an understanding of what's actually

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happening in the real estate market so

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watch this first of all this is the uh

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Doge chart where essentially the the

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thesis is okay Doge took over uh and uh

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prices started declining since Doge took

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over what you really have to know is

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when you're looking at a uh a real

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estate chart uh for for sort of pricing

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pricing fluctuates a l lot on a

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month-over-month

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basis and that's because real estate is

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so diverse real estate trades on a

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median basis that is when we look at

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these charts we use a median basis not

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an average basis but that median shifts

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a lot and the reason it shifts a lot is

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because you have a different mix of

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properties you have condos co-ops Town

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Homes single families and they trade all

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over the Spectrum and when you only have

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about 400 to 500 homes trading in a

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single month you don't actually have

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that much data so the midpoint which is

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what the median measures not the average

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right that midpoint can actually

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fluctuate a lot based on if you have you

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know 50 more high-end home sales and for

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some reason you didn't have a lot of

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condo sales that median can move up and

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down a lot so I actually think looking

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at some of the year-over-year data to

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look at those month comparisons

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year-over-year is a mistake you need

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something a lot smoother than that to

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really understand what a long term trend

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is and this is why I bring up the covid

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reversal now it's interesting for DC

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it's a little harder to piece in there

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but let's look at some of the longer

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term Trends to really see what's going

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on and then then we'll know what's going

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on with real

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estate all right here we go so on this

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chart which is the same one that KC

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letter compared to what we can actually

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do is rather than use these fluctuations

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which don't really tell us much about

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what's going on in the market we

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actually zoom out not just to the

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threeyear but we we could zoom out to

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the fiveyear and if you look at the

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fiveyear uh and sort of draw a little

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range around it you can see we've been

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bouncing around all over the place the

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lower end of the range we have hit uh

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once at the beginning of 2020 once now

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uh and once in

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2023 and the upper end of the range uh

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We've hit a few times we hit at the end

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of 2021 a lot of euphoria there end of

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2022 uh and then recently in the spring

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of 2024 here we've hit the upper end of

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the range so this range you can see

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fluctuates by about

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$120,000 this is an extreme fluctuation

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and valuation for Real Estate uh given

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that you know median sales price of

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$560,000 you know that's like a 20%

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swing top to bottom but this is not what

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we value real estate on these swings and

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again usually it's just a shift of the

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median it's not actually a

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representation of what's going on with

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real estate values to really understand

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what's going on with real estate values

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you have to zoom out

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and so for DC I would argue that the DC

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Market has actually been relatively flat

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since Co it hasn't significantly

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benefited from a you know people moving

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there because of some kind of covid boom

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and it hasn't benefited from a covid

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reversal that is people moving to the

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higher cost of living areas like

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California now if I type in something

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like uh Tampa Florida which was a

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recipient of the co boom even Cathy

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would ended up moving there we throw in

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Tampa Florida recipient of the co boom

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uh you can actually see how that covid

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boom moved housing valuations uh in

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Tampa from a median of about 263 to a

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consistent pattern of growth uh to where

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you actually got from 263 to like the

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mid fours there for a while up to

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500,000 in June of 2024 and really only

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since this peak in the June of 2024 have

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you really started seeing this slowdown

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in prices again in Tampa so Tampa's

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actually been this steady grower and and

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benef officiary of uh the co boom if you

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will let's try Austin Texas which is a

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market that I believe slowed down a

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little sooner than Tampa yeah look at

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this much sooner actually than Tampa

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Austin is this blue line here you can

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see blue uh the Blue Line actually went

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from a median of 383 peaked out over

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here in May of 2022 and it actually

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declined Texas declined from there

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median of

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666,000 oh the devil's number oh Diablo

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uh 383 to 666 straight down now to four

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uh sorry to Let's uh get that correct

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here 666 straight down to about 516 516

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from Peak uh represents a decline of

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about 23% so Austin's been in this sort

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of reversal for much much longer in

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terms of declines and you can see DC is

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mostly flat in this period now what's an

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area that's basically gone straight up

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with no sign of a Slowdown yet well uh

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it's going to be an area where house

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haak is heavily invested San Diego we're

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heavily invested in San Diego uh but you

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could really look at various different

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markets as well you could look at

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Ventura County as well uh and and when

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you look at California what's so unique

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about California is that uh in

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California usually people hear Cali and

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they're like oh my gosh fire risk and uh

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you know unaffordability or political

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risk or whatever but see people forget

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that the reason California real estate

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is so valuable and quite frankly the

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fires reduce Supply

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right that means existing home values

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probably go up even more this is why

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California is outperforming all of these

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markets but then again you know I've

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been doing real estate now for 15 16

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years this is my bread and butter this

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this is what I'm good at you can look at

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my YouTube channel from eight years ago

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all we do just real estate real estate

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real estate real estate

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videos we we knew that this was likely

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to happen and it's why we deployed over

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what 98% of our capital in California

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markets we knew that this was likely to

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happen because of California politics

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and this blows people's mind but when I

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uh had a seminar just this summer uh I

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had a seminar in uh Vegas we invited

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Kathy Wood she was there you know a lot

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of other folks were there uh it was

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quite enjoyable to to to have a

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wonderful event and everybody got to uh

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uh share their opinions and experiences

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on the market but one question that came

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up during our real estate segment was

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Kevin why is it that you would want to

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buy in California in California you have

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to deal with all the

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politicians and my response was the

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benefit of all of the politicians and

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the politics of California real estate

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is that there's so slow growth and

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they're so they make it so hard to build

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that they don't actually realize that

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the politics themselves in California

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are actually a tool for keeping property

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values higher see the more the extreme

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politics of California restrict building

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and make it hard to build in

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California the higher your property

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values go because jobs are in California

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California has the Southern California

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coastline real estate some of the best

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climate in the world so you got jobs you

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got climate yeah you've got some other

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issues but ironically the same politics

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that people hate on are the reason why

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home values actually just keep going up

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in Southern

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California the liberal policies

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themselves make it harder to add Supply

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and they give you a hedge so think about

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this you buy a home in Texas and then

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all of a sudden everybody else is

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Building Homes because there's no delay

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to Building Homes the government's not

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in your way the value of your home

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actually goes down because there are

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plenty of available substitutes you

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don't actually have that in California

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kind of fascinating so it's something to

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pay attention to when you're thinking

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about investing in real estate first

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thing that you have to know is we really

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have to zoom out on the trends you have

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to look at a longer term and ideally you

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want to get a moving average of the

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trend here uh so redin does not allow us

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to do that here but if you actually type

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in redin data center you'll be able to

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so go redin data center uh and if you

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grab their housing market data here

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you'll be able to get 12 and 4 week

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moving averages and this is going to

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make it a lot easier to understand is

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that DC Market truly crashing or is this

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just sort of like a three-year

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flatlining so we're going to look at DC

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and we're going to go to uh median sales

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price right here and uh here you could

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see uh sort of a a little bit of a

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better POV on pricing so right now

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median sales pricing in the DC area 2025

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is the green line this right here is

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your year-over-year changes uh so look

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right here at the green line you'll

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actually notice that when you look at

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the year-over-year numbers here on a

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trend of 4 weeks home values in DC

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aren't crashing they're actually up 2%

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year-over-year the same website Redfin

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providing you two different sets of data

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why well it's because look you had your

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high sales Clos in November and your low

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sales are now closing in December and

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January these month-over-month

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fluctuations are impossible to

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understand a trend line on don't don't

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do this in real estate this is real

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estate is not the stock market it moves

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a lot slower you have to use an average

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go to the 12we

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there you go on the 12we moving average

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home prices are 3% higher they're higher

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than any of these years prior now does

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that mean that you know the layoffs

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leading to potential sales are wrong no

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not necessarily I mean here are

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unemployment claims in Washington DC you

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could see they're Rising but they're

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nowhere near the unemployment claims

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that we saw in 2022 or during covid

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those are actually cut off probably

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because if you showed this whole chart

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it would be so high

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that this would be look like a joke this

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would look like a little fluctuation who

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cares so this idea that oh layoffs are

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being filed in February of 2025 and

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therefore home prices are collapsing in

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DC look that's a popular thing to say

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you could get a lot of likes and

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engagement and tweets and and you know

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reshares or whatever going yep

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everything's going to crap look at that

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real estate's crashing thanks to Elon

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Musk in Washington DC look I've got no

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real estate in DC I don't really care it

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doesn't matter I'm just looking at the

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data you can't look at this

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month-over-month fluctuation because as

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soon as you turn on the moving average

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using the same median sales price stat

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you actually do not see the data that

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you're getting on those monthly

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fluctuations so sorry

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kesi maybe yall just don't know real

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estate or you're looking for some kind

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of Engagement farming but this is fully

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false the facts don't support what

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you're saying now In fairness we do have

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active listings at the same place but

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price drops are higher not by much

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they're higher than the uh 2024 year

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right so year-over year they're higher

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but you only have 4% more price drops on

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the 12we now if you go to four we this

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might be a little bit more extreme uh

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yep there you go you're 9% over 2023 uh

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sorry 0.9% over 2024 and a little bit

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over 2023 here so you're getting a

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little bit of an increase in price drops

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here but you generally do at the

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beginning of the year I'm not saying

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that prices aren't going to go down uh

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you know I'm not trying to take away

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that that hope from folks just saying

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when we look at the data it's too early

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to say uh that you know there's any

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actual meaningful impact uh that doge is

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having on the real estate market uh now

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if you look at uh months of Supply even

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months of Supply is stable which this

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this is nice this is a good tool to look

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at because it actually accounts for how

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many buyers you have in an active Market

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obviously there are still people

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buying uh and uh the number of homes

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sold

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so far is actually still exceeding 23

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and 24 though well below what you saw in

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2022 uh and then new listings new

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listings are barely above or out of

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bound of what you saw in 24 and 3 this

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is on the four-week moving average you

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know you go to the the 12we it it it's

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almost indistinguishable from the prior

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years in terms of how many new homes

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you're seeing come on the market or how

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many homes are selling now look our

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interest rates still really high yes is

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it unaffordable to buy yes would it make

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sense that some people who get laid off

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have to end up selling their homes and

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moving yes but that could just unlock

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inventory for other people who were

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moving in to buy so it's too soon to

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tell the best way if you really want to

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know what's going on with pricing is get

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on the ground fly to the area go to open

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houses talk to Realtors understand

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what's happening on the ground that is

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the only way you can know sitting behind

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a computer chair you know some kind of

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desk I guess you're sitting on a

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computer chair behind ask but anyway

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it's not the way to understand the real

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estate market so when we at house Haack

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were able to time the peak of the Austin

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real estate market was because we were

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on the ground not because we were

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looking at you know month over month

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changes in median sales prices it's this

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every single month you can have a new

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headline oh my gosh prices are

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skyrocketing oh my gosh prices are

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collapsing this the wrong thing to do is

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bad data it's bad analysis why not

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advertise these things that you told us

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here I feel like nobody else knows about

17:29

this we'll we'll try a little

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advertising and see how it goes

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congratulations man you have done so

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much people love you people look up to

17:35

you Kevin P there financial analyst and

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YouTuber meet Kevin always bit to get

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