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Explosive Tucker Carlson Interview | Full Breakdown [Lex Fridman]

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I think the world is looking on at this

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coming election and saying and a lot of

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the world hates Trump okay it's not an

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endorsement of trump but it's just true

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if Joe Biden gets

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reelected democracy is a freaking joke

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hey everyone me Kevin here I just went

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through Tucker Carl since 3our interview

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with Lex fredman and in this video

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you're going to get a full distillation

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along with my opinion on some of the

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most Salient Parts the most important

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things let's start first I was surprised

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that Tucker Carlson said he thought he

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was well Putin was nervous when he sat

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down with Tucker Carlson that Putin was

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like a nervous student uh ready to

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provide his version of History Tucker

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suggested this was probably because a

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lot of eyeballs were going to be on this

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interview but Tucker also later in the

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interview suggested that Putin has been

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not surrounded by enough people Tucker

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is a big fan you find this throughout

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the entire interview so we'll just say

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it once here Tucker is a big fan of

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people being around people being around

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perspective being told when he's wrong

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having his opinions challenged believing

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that there is a higher power believing

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that nobody knows all the answers and

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going as far as arguing and if you watch

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the entire three-hour interview you'll

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see that this is so consistent he goes

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as far as arguing that we are

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potentially becoming stupider thanks to

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the access to technology that we have

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today these were some really powerful

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connections from this interview you you

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think about that for a moment Tucker

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talks about in the '90s thinking about a

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future where we have access to all of

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this information

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but Tucker says that wisdom does not

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come from having access to information

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it comes from knowing what you do not

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know and that could be even harder and

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suggests that maybe what we're seeing in

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South Korea for example where South

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Korea is becoming obsessed with Western

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technology Western social media what are

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we finding higher suicide rate lower

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birth rate and a lower standard of

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living things that we're also seeing in

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the United States why is this if

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technology is so good

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why are three quarter stones of how well

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things are going in society suggesting

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things are actually getting worse and

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not better now he mentions very clearly

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that he is a big fan of everybody having

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children as soon as possible that is the

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most pure form of creation that you

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could possibly Express have children and

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He suggests to the people who say well I

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don't have the means to have a child he

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gives a very strong argument he says and

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he says this about men because he is a

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man he says look I don't know about

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women but when it comes to men unless

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you are forced to do something you will

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not do it and so when you have a child

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you become responsible and you make it

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happen this was a very interesting

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argument it kind of sets the stage given

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that a lot of that was discussed towards

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the end of the interview it sets the

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stage for how this interview went this

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was a really open look into who Tucker

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is as a person see Tucker was asked hey

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were you afraid of going to Russia and

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dying he said no I wasn't afraid of

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dying in Russia I believe in God I

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didn't drink the tea they

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offered but I was not afraid going into

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Russia I was more afraid actually of

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coming back to the United States he says

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he spent thousands of dollars on

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attorneys to tell him and brief him that

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he could be arrested for violations by

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going to interview Putin and then coming

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back he was more afraid that the America

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he loves had become Twisted than being

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arrested or killed in

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Russia now it's worth noting that we go

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a little bit deeper here into Tucker and

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the spying on Tucker but we're on Putin

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and we should stick to Putin for a

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moment because that's where this

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interview starts out and so we'll go a

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bit more chronologically here Tucker

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Carlson believes it is odd to suggest

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that Ukraine is on the verge of winning

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he believes that Ukraine is a tool for

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corporations and politicians to line

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their pockets and enrich themselves he

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says that Boris Johnson demanded $

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million to be interviewed by Tucker

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Carlson now some might say that Boris

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Johnson is just trying to blow off

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Tucker

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Carlson on the other hand people might

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be scratching their head going hm t Tu

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wants to confront Boris Johnson on why

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Putin says Boris Johnson killed the

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Ukrainian peace deal Tucker believes

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that a lot of Institutions companies the

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weaponization or IND military-industrial

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complex it's all lining their pocket off

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the backs of Ukrainian lives and Tak

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believes that's disgusting and he also

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believes the assertion that Ukraine is

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close we just need to give them some

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more money is ludicrous now I will say a

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news organization that generally

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supports the Biden Administration stance

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the New York Times just ran a piece a

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few days ago and I'm pointing this out

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Tucker didn't point this out so I want

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to be exceptionally clear what's a

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Tucker argument and what's more of a

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sort of a Kevin Point Kevin Point here

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the New York Times runs a piece

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surprisingly weak Ukrainian defensive

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help Russian advance and they show here

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trenches here entrenches here but

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nothing in the middle and suggests this

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sort of lops side or uneven defense

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contributing to the loss of one

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particular region all of this by the way

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my full notes of the Tucker Carlson show

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and this particular region we've talked

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about this before in Ukraine uh all of

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this is over on e.com I always like to

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post my notes this right here was for

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example an eack from February 19th where

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I talked about the fall of this very

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specific area my video on it some before

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and after images and control so I do

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this I always try to post information on

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ec.com it's actually a great way for me

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to organize my thoughts before I make my

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videos and you're always welcome to use

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that Source totally for free uh but

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anyway they compare this to Russia's uh

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trenches over here on the right cleanly

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organized the Dragon's Teeth to stop

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tanks from coming through anti-tank

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ditches and very clear Russian

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defenses whereas Ukraine's defenses

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actually substantially weaker and this

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kind of reiterates what Tucker says that

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no maybe maybe Ukraine isn't actually

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close anyway he expresses that he's sad

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that Naval died he thinks that no

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opposition leader should be in jail this

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is not Freedom he does not at any point

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claim that Russia is free or that Russia

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has Free Speech but he does suggest hey

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it's kind of ridiculous that for us to

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go to a grocery store we have to step

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over homeless people with pee and urine

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on on the floor and frankly fentanyl

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laced individuals drugged up individuals

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and that people don't even feel safe in

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America anymore so he's drawing this

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contrast and I have to say as somebody

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who ran for governor in California

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during the recall election and it came

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in second place with nearly a million

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votes I have to say tucker is right here

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our homeless problem is

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solvable the problems in America are

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solvable the issue is our priorities are

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highly

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misaligned now that's really a topic for

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a different video let's keep going with

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Tucker Carlson although if you do want

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21st to June 23rd continuing now tuer

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Carlson says he met Snowden Edward

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Snowden for dinner at his hotel room and

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he didn't tell anybody about it but all

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of a sudden semaphore runs a piece

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breaking that Tucker Carlson met with

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Snowden Tucker says how did they know

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Tucker who acknowledges as well as other

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media Outlets who have acknowledged that

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the NSA has spied on Tucker Carlson

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suggests that the NSA and maybe even the

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CIA are still spying on Tucker Carlson

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and he's told that there is no such

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thing as a secure messaging platform

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maybe it's secure from the mafia but not

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from the government and the worst part

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is all the spyware leads your phone

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battery to die faster he's in

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interjecting comedy here obviously but

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then he gets serious he says how many of

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these moral fights quote unquote moral

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fights that we have like his example

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black lives matter actually helped black

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people did suicide rates go down for

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blacks did the standard of living go up

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for blacks did the median income go up

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for blacks did Beauty in Society go up

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did safety go up did cleanliness go up

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after

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BLM tuer Carlson says

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no that you have whites perpetuating

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this moral Victory and the reality is

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the lives of blacks are not getting

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better and so white people go on these

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Crusades that don't actually improve the

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standard of living for

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anyone there's also this idea or at

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least this idea that sanctions are not

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destroying Russia if anything they're

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making our issues in America worse

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sanctions haven't crippled Russia at

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least per um Tucker Carlson's point of

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view goes to a grocery store

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everything's readily available and

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adjusted per exchange rates kind of

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affordable at grocery stores maybe even

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way more affordable than they are in

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America so why is it that we're

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sanctioning Russia when it's not working

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or at least it's not affecting the

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everyday individual that Russia still

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has a wartime economy in other words a

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functioning economy they seem to be fine

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why are we doing this when all we're

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really doing is driving the growth of

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bricks Brazil Russia India China South

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Africa to create their own currency and

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dump the US dollar now side note this is

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a Kevin note I'm a big believer that

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it's going to be a while before the

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dollar is no longer King but yes at some

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point in the future all currencies do

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collapse they're all essentially a riged

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Ponzi and we just have to know the rules

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of the those games and not touch

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currencies I'm a big believer that the

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best dollar to have is no dollar that

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you should exchange that dollar for

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assets that hopefully go up in time and

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value and it doesn't matter what you

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denominate your asset in it's still

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going to have value whereas the actual

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dollar gets printed away via inflation

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okay moving on so Tucker is not wrong

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about that one the effect of the

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sanctions well those could be debated

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obviously as far uh because quite

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frankly if you looked at just as a quick

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example and the Counterpoint to Tucker

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Carlson if you looked at the uh Russian

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airline industry you'll notice they're

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falling apart they have resorted to

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using planes they've taken out of

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service to use parts to put into

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existing planes that are still operating

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but air safety is actually rapidly

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degrading in Russia and it's only a

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matter of time until there are more

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commercial accidents because they don't

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have access thanks to sanctions to the

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proper replacement parts for boeings or

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air buses or otherwise that's just an

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example of a Counterpoint again I'm not

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here to try to counter Tucker It's just

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maybe you won't necessarily see the

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impact of sanctions at a grocery store

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and I just want to provide that

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counterbalancing point of view that yes

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there are other Industries you could

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look at and say the exact opposite

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Tucker argues that he doesn't trust the

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internet instead he trusts what he sees

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again his grocery store example uh he

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thinks that most media is just a tool

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for the American government uh he thinks

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there are gross tax loopholes like

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carried interest and we're creating

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chaos in the world off the backs of

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ukrainians touched on that already

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before he called George W bush a

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for leaving when the Pentagon was

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attacked uh on

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911 uh leaving to essentially a

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protected Camp under the guidance of the

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Secret Service he argued that uh we have

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to Define what a Nazi is because for

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Putin to make this what Tucker Carlson

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calls a childish claim that we need to

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denn naify Ukraine well hold on a second

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while Nazism can evoke racism and evil

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and and uh you know well essentially

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emotion we have to Define what a Nazi is

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today otherwise we're never going to

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solve this war how okay let's let's

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negotiate let's get rid of all the Nazis

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okay which ones how do we Define them

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this is an interesting argument that

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Tucker Carlson makes he also suggests

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that kamla Harris told Ukraine that they

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could join NATO uh I did pull up the

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White House point of view on this and I

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understand each of these are going to be

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biased right Tucker doesn't like the

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White House the White House doesn't like

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Tucker vice versa but I do think it's

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very interesting uh and so I posted this

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on ec.com as well I posted a snippet

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here uh and the vice president KL Harris

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responds to the idea of uh the desire of

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Ukraine to join NATO and this is kamla

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Harris's response well I'll put that in

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context because it's obvious at this

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point which is that and therefore no

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other country can tell anyone whether

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they should or should not join NATO they

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should be that should be their

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independent choice that is the point of

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sovereignty so I respect zelinsky's

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desire to be a member of NATO NATO is a

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membership it's about Nations coming

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together as a group making decisions

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collectively blah blah blah it doesn't

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happen overnight notice In fairness to

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kentucker Carlson here at no point does

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kamla Harris reject the idea of

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Ukrainian nship membership in NATO

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instead K Harris per the White House's

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own

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website suggest H well we we can all

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collectively talk about it there's no

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rejection of the idea that Ukraine

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should join NATO and this happened in

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February of 2022 right before Russia's

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invasion of Ukraine so I have to say if

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I have to pick a side here Tucker is

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probably more right in

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saying kamla Harris essentially invited

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uh Ukraine to join NATO because there

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was certainly not a clear closed door

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here which previously there had been

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interesting anyway continuing on uh he

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talked a little bit about uh there being

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a lag in how there was were translat and

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maybe a lack of chemistry in the

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interview because of that and of course

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maybe he could have asked you know

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harder questions but he can have then

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quickly transition to this idea of look

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I don't really care what other people

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think about me I spend time with my

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family nature and my values he says I

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love Elon but I don't spend time on

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social he thinks that Western technology

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is debilitating and that you're a

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megalomaniac if you're constantly

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looking to see what other people think

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about you online that your like your

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desire to be liked by people who don't

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know you is delusional this was very

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interesting and very relatable actually

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as a content creator on social media

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it's very easy and I know this feeling

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very well it's very easy to get absorbed

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in what other people and what Society

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thinks of you when only you know your

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own truth and I have to say I I love

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that idea I think that was actually a

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very good point of view by Tucker

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Carlson tuer Carlson says that we need

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to live a life of reproduction sobriety

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and and uh better life expectancy that's

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how you measure success in society and

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that he's concerned that those things

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aren't happening now and he's also

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concerned about how AI could maybe even

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if there's just a 15% chance take over

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Society uh or potentially that we're

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messing with people's brains by

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suggesting we should be Implement imple

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implanting chips into people's brains

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that there's a magic and and uh sort of

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this arcan of brain that should be left

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untouched

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okay there are arguments here on both

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sides a quick counterargument might be

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should we not help somebody let's say

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with cerebral poliy who could benefit

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from having a chip implant in their

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brain and actually then become a normal

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acting member of society there are going

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to be arguments on both sides of this

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Tucker Carlson did respond to the Donald

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Trump text messages Tucker's argument is

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that he was mad that Trump was making

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all of these claims Tucker wanted to

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substantiate these claims but all the

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people around Trump were so incompetent

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and that they brought him bad evidence

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like giving him names of people who were

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still alive when they said they were

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dead and voted information directly from

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their campaign that frustrated Tucker

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Carlson so Tucker said yes I was mad he

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also says yes I have lied I don't want

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to be a liar I don't want to be known as

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a liar I make mistakes and I think

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Tucker is actually very reasonable for

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arguing what he does here I know that

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time he is talking about and it was a

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very frustrating time now Tucker then

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goes further and says that the election

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was rigged Tucker believes that when you

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censor information about Co you affect

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the way people vote when you change the

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way people vote with more vote by mail

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potentially ballot harvesting or

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otherwise you change the way elections

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are held and Tucker says people need

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Fair access to information and today He

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suggests that the 2024 election is a

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referendum on Biden that Biden is senile

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and he won't win unless the election is

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rigged now I want to be very clear this

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is Tucker Carlson's point of view of

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course there's a likelihood that about

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half of Americans watching this believe

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that that is inappropriate but this is

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Tucker Carlson's point of view Lex

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counters and says what if he's just

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getting old and Tucker says Biden is the

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leader of America it's important for a

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leader to be able to lead and the fact

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that marago could be raided over a

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documents charge is crazy especially

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when the sitting president had the same

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charge He suggests that Nikki Haley is

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weak and that Society should not let her

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Advance he says he has enormous interest

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in interviewing zean ping and that Joe

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Rogan has changed media and Tucker

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wishes he had a resume like Rogan going

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from Fear Factor to Comedy to the

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Forefront of media he thinks that Joe

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Rogan is a very curious person like

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Larry King was he also goes then into

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relationships and suggests he could

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never be happier that he's been with his

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wife for 40 years and one of the ways

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he's been able to do that is his wife

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doesn't care about his job he thinks

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having that separation is actually very

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important and that there's a humility in

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accepting reality that you don't control

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everything both good and bad that there

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is luck and that there is Misfortune and

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recognizing that is recognizing humility

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then the interview is over so I hope you

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appreciated my less than 20 minute

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summary of the Tucker Carlson interview

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with Lex I do encourage you watch it but

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if at the very least you were able to

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get this and get some perspective here

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per day and with that thank you so much

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for watching we'll see you in the next

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one goodbye

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