The Fed *Hell* is Worsening.
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yes the jolt stata came in hot old news
it's January joltz data that literally
just came out let's actually talk about
the FED hell let's start with the
Federal Reserve the Federal Reserve is
widely now believed to potentially
reintroduce a 50 basis point hike in
fact one of the best people to kind of
give us a little bit of a heads up on
this is my favorite mouthpiece of the
Wall Street Journal nikti nickt is so
wonderful because he actually gave us a
video this morning talking about exactly
some of his thoughts let's look at his
video Let's comment on exactly that
video remember Nick T is the guy who
works for the Wall Street Journal and
he's widely believed to be the guy who
kind of gets a heads up of what the FED
is going to do before they do it now
right before the FED meeting yesterday
in Congress Nick T warned that the Fed
was likely to come out and talk about a
higher terminal rate and that's exactly
what the Fed did so when Nick T says
something we generally pay attention to
a much like we pay attention the FED
after we listen to what Nick T says
we're going to jump on into what Kenny G
has to say Kenny G's got some nice
things to say about the FED as well
actually maybe not that nice but we'll
listen to both so let's see if I can
make this technology function and let's
listen in to Nick t
Powell now sees what everybody else sees
which is that the market is priced in 50
and so this will be his opportunity to
reset expectations if he wants to but
what he said yesterday was that the data
is going to play an important role here
and he doesn't know what the payroll
report is going to be Friday we will get
the joltz some job openings survey today
and then of course the inflation report
next week retail sales so there's still
data that could make up their mind here
but what I thought was important
yesterday was that Powell also pointed
to the revisions so it wasn't just the
January the hot January data we got but
it was the revisions that changed the
profile of what the economy looked like
late last year and it seems unlikely
that that's going to change in the next
batch of data so the revisions seem
important here
yeah this is could not be more true so I
want to actually talk specifically about
that before we talk Kenny G because
there's something important in this
first of all the jolts data the job
opening and labor turnover survey that
we're going to be getting today in my
opinion don't get too excited about it
the reason you'll want to get too
excited about it is because it's from
January the jolts data that's coming out
now in March March 8th is actually
relevant to January not February so
there's a lag of an additional month in
the joltz report so I would expect that
joltz report to be hot today mostly
because all the January data has been
pretty dang hot so I wouldn't put too
much weight on that instead one thing
that I found that was very interesting
about Nick T's comment here was that
Jerome Powell was paying attention to
the revisions now not only is he paying
attention to the revisions of the end of
last year which the revisions of end of
last year were bad right they ended up
telling us that oh no inflation was
worse than expected that's not great
right we thought inflation was a certain
level of low and that actually worsened
in the fourth quarter more so than we
thought that it would right that's not
ideal we generally don't want to hear
that inflation is revising into a worse
direction right we don't want that now
what's interesting though is if Jerome
Powell is paying attention to the
revisions what it actually means is the
January revisions from the February data
could be especially important now that's
something that we've started talking
about over the last few days I've
started warning when these reports start
coming out the Friday jobs report which
I'll be covering it two days and the CPI
report next week we really want to pay
attention to how much was January
revised that'll be critical so we'll pay
attention to that but those those are
two important things to keep in mind so
the jolts don't I personally kind of
casting that aside pay attention to
revisions like Nick T says the FED is
paying attention to now let's take a
listen to Kenny G here what does Kenny G
tell us about the Federal Reserve let's
listen in but then what's your take on
what Jerome Powell said today that the
Fed was prepared to increase the pace of
rate hikes and that the terminal rate is
likely going to be higher than
previously anticipated a lot of people
are reading that as a sign that they're
going to go faster so he created space
today to move by 50 basis points on the
next hike you know they'd come to this
year pretty clearly telegraphing that 25
basis points was going to be the per
meeting rate hike for the early part of
the year and then in some sense
taking the foot off the brake and seeing
where the economy lands and and In
fairness the fed the interest rate
tool
as a means of controlling inflation is a
it's like a it's like having surgery
with a Dull Knife it is a really
difficult tool to get the job done with
now that's actually really interesting
because remember yesterday when Jerome
Powell was testifying before the Senate
today he'll testify before the house
keep in mind that usually the purpose of
these events is to get politicians who
can then clip their hardcore questions
for Powell and Powell's just deflecting
them so generally I don't pay much
attention personally to the second day
of Powell testifying because there's
going to be the same answers as we got
the day before generally obviously I'll
pay attention to potential differences
but but that's my expectation but anyway
this this idea about rates being a blunt
policy instrument is something that
Jerome Powell has himself said before he
says look the only tool we really have
is changing interest rates to affect
demand but that's pretty blunt it's
pretty broad affects everything it's not
like a surgical tool like Kenny G here
is reiterating that creates some
problems because we don't really know
what the lag is of the Federal Reserve
raising rates as much as they are not
only do we not know what the lag is but
it makes you wonder hey wait a minute
what about quantitative tightening don't
even go there the FED is almost arcanely
lost when it comes to the impact of
quantitative tightening so we'll see but
let's keep going uh with uh Kenny G's
comments here because you hit the
housing sector you hit the manufacturing
sector you hit Parts the economy that
have a very high sensitivity to interest
rates
and you tend to leave the rest of the
economy relatively untouched
so the FED doesn't have as much impact
with their tools you might hope and
although they've raised rates
considerably it's not clear how long the
leg effects are for the impact Bingo and
once the impact starts to play out
how it how damaging that impact is so
they are they're in Uncharted Territory
it's a difficult place to be
might you know if I could if I could
tell one thing to the chairman I would I
would tell them to say less
I would just be write a message we're
going to put the inflations you need
back in the Box no I actually I don't
know if I agree with that I actually
really have enjoyed the federal
reserve's mandate of more communication
the reason for that is it creates
substantially less uncertainty now Kenny
G basically got even more Mega rich last
year shorting the market so last year
was a fantastic opportunity for short
sellers to to short the market that
doesn't mean Kenny G is always a short
seller right just means he played the
market very well I mean hats off to a
fantastic job trading but the problem is
Jerome Powell saying less could
potentially activate substantially more
fears that this Market is going to end
up getting what I call Paul volckert and
getting Paul volckert I think is
actually the worst case scenario fear
for the markets in fact if you follow me
on Twitter you'll see the thesis that I
posted yesterday which I actually
thought was a very well thought out see
I'm complimenting myself here but anyway
you could see my thesis on Twitter and
take a look at it here so what I posted
was the following I wrote my 2023 Market
thesis the feds fight against inflation
will take much longer than anyone
expected this puts upward pressure on
Treasury yields and downward pressure on
housing however the stock market most
fears Paul volcker the punishment
following an uncontrolled second
explosion of inflation now what's really
important here is Jerome Powell
regularly communicates to us the
conditions of Paul volcker the
conditions of Paul volcker specifically
are a wage price spiral and unanchored
and inflation Expectations by Jerome
Powell continuously communicating those
those requirements of Paul volcker to us
us as Market participants can determine
how close are we to trending towards
Paul volcker and regularly we hear
inflation expectations are anchored
there is no side of a wage price spiral
in fact there's less of a sign of a wage
price spiral right and you know what's
really also phenomenal is more and more
now I'm actually seeing people talk
about job loss rather than uh than like
all the benefits and perks of their job
like the job loss era is really
happening now I want to go back to that
tweet but I figure I'm going out and
building on tangent on tangent over here
but that's okay because these are
actually quite interesting I have to
give a shout out to this Tech talk
because it was absolutely hilarious now
generally I don't like watching tick
tocks but this one was great hold on
I'll play it for you
Riff to you okay this is not my first
recession so I'm going to explain the
Circuit City Griff to you okay if you're
under 35 you don't know about this one
okay there was a store a national chain
back in the day called Circuit City it
was just like Best Buy it was basically
the same store but instead of their
color being blue their color was red all
right I will say one thing that was
substantially different about Circuit
City and Best Buy was Circuit City
really paid extremely well for
commissions uh they they did a
phenomenal job for their employees but
it's probably one of the reasons they
went bankrupt because their their
employee expense was so high I
personally have found memories of
actually going to Circuit City
and then going to Best Buy like we would
go to both my dad and I that was right
after eating at Quarterdeck in South
Florida anyway let's keep listening to
this because this is actually really
interesting on we're talking about the
wage price spiral so I know you might be
thinking what does Circuit City have to
do with the wage price spiral watch it's
hilarious this is a great great argument
and I'll summarize part of it at the end
here but let's keep going
it's called Circuit City
it went out of business one day it went
out of business and it was right around
the time of the Great Recession so all
of my friends had gaps in employment
they had all these other issues and they
were stuck in entry-level positions they
couldn't move up in anything so what did
they do they all got together and they
started covering each other's resumes
that each of them had worked at
different positions at Circuit City
now covering means you you put somebody
else's like your other colleague or your
friend's phone number in as your HR
reference or whatever right that's what
he means by covering because the
company's bankrupt
I wasn't did they ever actually work
there no
were they been have they been a busboy
for the last five years yes
but now on paper
they were a floor manager at Circuit
City boom they got more money oh
actually I was the director of
procurement for Circuit City boom nobody
could prove otherwise there was no HR
department to call there was nothing you
could verify this information against
nothing
and the reason why I bring this up is
because I okay then he talks about the
how inefficient HR obviously is at
Twitter and you could basically now say
that you've worked at Twitter and you're
just part of the 6 000 people who got
laid off at Twitter and maybe you could
land yourself a better job I think it's
very interesting but as Brandon Howard
here says this is basically fraud uh it
is uh it's funny but in some way it's
kind of showing the pain that employees
are going through right now like this is
the second day in a row now that I'm
sharing imagine this take Talks on
YouTube of people complaining about how
how difficult it is to find a new job
and now basically it's so hard to find a
new job people are resorting to fraud to
get a new job what what to me what that
actually says is this signal that yes we
do not have the conditions for the Paul
volcker wage price spiral that's
probably the most important condition of
this market and that's why I say I
personally believe the stock market most
fears Paul volcker it does not fear
higher for longer in fact that's what I
say here the next line although as long
as we don't face a Fed rugging I believe
the stock market will basically look
through higher for longer is what I
argue here therefore absent of rapid and
intense re-intensification of inflation
or reanimation of inflation I believe in
volatile's Nike Swoosh recovery is ahead
of us in stocks with 2022 representing
the down the down part of the switch
right in English slow gradual uptrend
for pricing power stocks slow gradual
downtrend for real estate pricing power
stocks are those that favor higher
income individuals higher income
businesses those with high free cash
flow some SAS businesses included like
for example look at bill.com they have
negative net income but in insanely High
free cash flow only once in a recession
with inflation averaging note averaging
very important not achieving that's very
different C flexible average inflation
targeting I expect the Federal Reserve
will fulfill basically a mission
accomplished U-turn this is only likely
to happen once excess savings evaporate
yes the savings rate is lower today but
excess savings may give businesses and
consumers spending power for another
three to 12 months unfortunately by the
time a recession is confirmed Staples
Industrials Commodities and the Dixie
are likely to suffer that's my opinion
obviously especially Upon A fed pivot as
yields fall Staples which were stocks uh
some fled to uh due to you know for to
say it for safety whatever Coca-Cola
McDonald's Costco Walmart Johnson
Johnson Procter Gamble IMO are likely to
suffer suffer
do not make the mistake of course of
confusing a Fed pivot with a market
correction while it's possible that
something breaks and the FED will only
pivot if they're if something does break
in my opinion the FED will only pivot
once they're convinced inflation is
under control and that is after all the
pain point of this recession this
recession is being caused because
inflation is out of control so if
inflation is under control then the only
reason for really forcing the recession
goes away that's that's the point now I
do still believe that Staples in certain
companies will suffer whereas higher
income individuals and businesses will
will succeed because they'll be able to
spend through this recession longer
Apple Nvidia trade desk Tesla Taiwan
semiconductors to some extent some of
the housing stocks and face solar Edge
and of course layoffs are now hitting
those white collar jobs potentially more
than blue collar jobs however personally
I'm I'm I I don't know that that's
actually going to have a dramatic impact
because you're really just you're
shaving off almost off the top of the
tech sector if you will it's not like
the entire Tech sector is getting paid
off there's still massive amount of
investment going in of course then I get
some general rules like stay out of
margin and we'll likely look back in
seven years and wish we bought more now
uh invest in the down cycle of the real
estate cycle good idea consider using
ETFs blah blah blah blah anyway so I
tweeted this on on Twitter of course uh
so I recommend you follow me on Twitter
but but the point of this is really to
say I am a big believer that the Federal
Reserve or or the concern of the stock
market today is a fear of Paul volcker
and if the fear is Paul volcker then as
long as we get more communication we
actually avoid Paul volcker and that's
what's what Kenny G I think here is
missing is that uh telling Jerome Powell
to communicate less is a problem because
what you're doing is you're actually
enhancing the likelihood for something
to break in markets because you're not
properly communicating the markets that
we're not going into a Paul volcker
style scenario if we are going into a
Paul volcker style scenario I would like
to know that as well because then I will
flip-flop and sell faster than a
flip-flopper on YouTube
anyway let's keep going with what Kenny
G says
bottle we're going to do what it takes
to make that happen and we're going to
raise rates consistently until we see
very clear evidence that we put this
behind us because every time they take
the foot off the break or the market
perceives they're taking the foot off
the brake
and the job's not done
they make their work even harder
and at the same time remember they're
impacting in a very very harsh way a
very small part of the economy
and that's really tough for those
businesses that live in that part of the
economy yeah so he's making this
argument that hey if the FED like
basically pumps the market they're
making their job harder with the FED
affecting the stock market at least
according to economic literature has
little to do with what actually happens
what matters more is what happens in the
bond market with financial conditions
not so much the stock market housing
market and bond market those two have
much more of an impact now there's some
good comments here that are worth
talking about so Daniel uh here a member
writes one to nine or sorry 1.9 to one
jobs available so they may be proud to
temporarily work at a lower paying job
okay so really when we make this
argument about the jobs and labor
turnover survey which we will be getting
today by the way of course but again for
January data 1.9 to one jobs available
implies that the labor market has so
many available jobs the problem is we
have a substantial mismatch of jobs
right so and I think that's what Daniel
is alluding to here is that look you
know you you may be skilled in Tech but
now you have to go work in a restaurant
just to be able to pay your bills
because you signed up for a lease that's
more expensive than what you can now
afford right that's unfortunate but I do
think that the covet pandemic has
created such weird dislocations in the
job market that it is true you just
don't have enough people to fill the
jobs and the roles where we actually
need them I don't know that this is
necessarily trying to say this is the
tightest labor market ever even though
that is what Jerome Powell says I think
we we just literally don't have people
either willing or able to work in
certain Fields especially in Hospitality
or health care you know Health Care is
is nine hundred thousand jobs short of
where they should be according to Trend
so it's very very interesting in my
opinion someone else here writes but
hire for longer will affect EPs and
slower multiples lower Market yeah
potentially uh I mean I think the
multiples have already been priced in
but you're right if you multiply a lower
multiple by lower EPS you you end up
getting a lower stock price however I am
personally under the impression and this
is just my opinion that the bottom like
38 percent of the Fibonacci retracement
that we've seen for the NASDAQ and the
Spy or whatever is actually
representative of Paul volcker fear and
it's really the top 60 percent that is
representative of eps fear and multiple
compression fear uh like at in October
of last year markets were actually
legitimately worried that inflation was
never going to go back down remember
we've had the luxury over the last six
months of actually seeing inflation
Trend down right we did not have that
luxury in October that's really
important uh somebody's asking if I have
a comment on someone else's video but I
actually don't watch other people's
videos to the extent that I'm capable of
resisting so I have no idea when
somebody else makes a video about me
most of the time it takes somebody else
asking me about it and then I'm also
generally not very interested in looking
that's a psychological thing and I also
don't know why we're talking about that
on sort of the FED talk pick but you
know what let me put it this way it's a
lesson to everyone I actually the very
first video that I made on YouTube that
brought me from 12 subscribers to a
thousand subscribers where I was talking
about real estate in 2017. I talked
about this concept of the toxicity of
Relativity of comparing yourself to the
opinions of others and I warned myself
like the most dangerous thing is doing
that in real estate and Business and
Entrepreneurship and it's even worse and
more toxic on YouTube because YouTube is
so easy to measure views subscribers
growth rates it's so toxic but
unfortunately as the I believe the Bible
says a comparison is the the thief of
Joy don't don't don't do it and what I
like to do is I like to purposely not
watch other people's commentary in my
space because I don't want to start
rhyming like other people I like to
provide a very unique perspective uh you
know that's not to say I don't study all
day long of course I do uh but uh but
not not other content creators oh God no
anyway so when it comes to the Federal
Reserve uh I actually I am very very uh
look I hate to say I like I don't want
to sound you know dare I say like a
clown who is always bullish because I'm
not always bullish I think everybody who
watches me knows I when I turn bearish
was the right time to turn bearish I
became bullish too early I admit my
fault uh but uh but the point is like no
if if I see the conditions of going
bearish I'm gonna flip very fast but I
don't see that in fact I think most of
the feds speak yesterday and today is
really just clickbait I mean no
Jerome pal sorry I shouldn't say that
because some people watch this with
children but like really if the data
comes in hot you're gonna go 50 duh
right like but that's what we I mean
we've been talking about that since
before the FED meeting what I've been
saying on the channel look I I think the
FED would shoot themselves in the foot
in terms of credibility uh if they go 50
the data would have to be so
ridiculously intensely high for them to
go 50 that I don't think they're going
to do it in fact it's hilarious and I'm
not trying to say like oh you know JP
Morgan's watching my videos and like Pat
myself on the back as much as I would
like to be able to say that I'm not
going to say that JP Morgan released a
piece on exactly that just yesterday and
what they wrote was uh they're basically
that they're like look
the FED will confuse markets if they go
50. if they go 50 they will send such a
confusing signal to markets that they
have no control that you could actually
cause more damage to markets here it is
it was jpmorgan's Chief investment
officer Bob Michelle two first names if
employment data is very strong you've
got 50 BP pack on the table but that's a
pretty high hurdle once downshifted if
you go back to 50 it would be pretty
confusing to the market I hope they
don't do it they were really willing to
run a strong or sorry a string of 25 BP
increases exactly it's like just add
another 25 BP but don't confuse the
market with a 50. I think I think that
would be silly uh somebody here writes
uh somebody who's watching on Twitch
says data says 50 now no data says
between now and may 50 is in the bag but
that's two rate hikes right we we are
sitting at about 50 50 for a 50 in March
boy that sounds very confusing
uh now you're saying Futures leading
slightly 50. okay all right that's a
better clarification yes they're
teetering on the 50 50 level last night
they were teetering towards uh 25 by
about uh a 52 margin maybe they flipped
a tiny little bit with Futures this
morning either way I don't think it
terribly matters let's wait for the data
we'll see that but again what we're
hearing from the FED here is very
important it's no public or but yes it
is it is a volatile path forward and
that's very very important a 50 50 when
it was just 15. you are correct yes yes
you are correct don't get me wrong I I'm
not saying Mike trades here is wrong
you're correct we have substantially
moved towards 50. but in a weird way I
actually think that could be bullish
because think about it I think the
hurdle to go 50 much like what JPM says
is very very high so the Market's
pricing at 50 give me a rally baby give
me a rally on the 25.
uh so so yes the market is trying to
price that in my two week old won't stop
saying sh9t they thanks Kevin
two week old congratulations that's
that's awesome man I want to have a baby
dude I don't have a baby anymore like I
look you have a two week old I know
you're going through hell right now
uh probably lack of sleep and all the
crap that goes along with that
enjoy it man like everybody always told
me that when I had a two-year-old I
didn't believe him I'm like ah come on
man this is like I got plenty of time
looking at these like tiny hands and
tiny feet and stuff I have a
seven-year-old and five-year-old now and
I'm like dude I literally don't have a
baby anymore I'm like I want babies I
want I want like 10 more babies
so we got to get we got to get to work
but but I'm just house hacking so much
that you know I'm not fulfilling my
duties here uh anyway okay we're gonna
get off that now
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