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today the fomc minutes get released for

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the February 1st Federal Reserve meeting

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there's a lot of concern and

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tentativeness that the Federal Reserve

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meeting minutes are somehow going to

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show some sort of substantially more

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aggressive Federal Reserve honestly I

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hate to say it but I think that this

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Federal Reserve minutes set is complete

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nonsense that's because mostly we

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already know what Jerome Powell told us

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and I'll provide you a rough summary now

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but we also know that these minutes came

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from before the noisy data that we got

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from January noisy and hot jobs data

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noisy and hot CPI data noisy and hot PPI

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data noisian hot pce data and of course

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hot retail sales data and jolt's data

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yeah literally every report was pretty

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damn hot in January but this meeting

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happened before all of those reports so

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of course we know just like when things

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are trending down one month doesn't make

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a trend when things are trending up one

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month doesn't make a trend in terms of

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reports and maybe the seasonal

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adjustments are going to be so hot for

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January that hey you know what February

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we'll be right back to sort of a hope

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for disinflation my belief is things are

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going to be very noisy very very

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volatile this year long term I expect

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substantial disinflation and I just hope

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the Federal Reserve doesn't overdo their

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hiking but today people are going to be

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looking for clues for exactly this what

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kind of recognition of the potential

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risk of over tightening is the Federal

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Reserve providing us that's probably the

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biggest red flag that I want to be

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looking for in today's fomc minute so if

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I sort of had to write down what I was

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looking for my number one most important

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thing today would be indicators of fear

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of over tightening remember Jerome

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Powell was the one who originally told

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us hey if we over tighten we can always

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just loosen again rapidly but then he

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quickly followed up with that by saying

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ah you know but then again this was

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about a month later you know we don't

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want to create a tremendous amount of

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economic pain and hardship for

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individuals as especially amongst those

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least able to Bear it in other words

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lower income consumers who are already

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the ones suffering the most from this

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insane inflation that we've been dealing

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with now yes their wages have been

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rising more but that doesn't help when

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literally everything is ridiculously

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more expensive especially for the lower

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income individuals including food and

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rent so my big thing is I want to look

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at the risks of over tightening and

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potentially the fed's willingness to

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overdo it really hurting lower income

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consumers the most remember American

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Express tells us wealthier people the

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ones spending through the recession not

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poor people but then again American

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Experience generally caters to a higher

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income demographic where companies like

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synchrony or Citibank or a farm are

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generally catering to a lower credit

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score and lower credit audience as a

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result higher default rates higher

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credit loss reserves and really more

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concerns that uh oh maybe we're not

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actually being compensated enough for

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the risk we're taking that's leading to

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a tightening of lending standards and

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even what you saw at a firm the buy now

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later company that obviously generally

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appeals to a lower income demographic

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uh buy now pay later company a firm

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suggesting that hey we need to raise how

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much we're charging for these loans

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because we want to operate a profitable

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company and we're realizing oh we're

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starting to lose too much money on these

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loans this is a problem so what did the

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Federal Reserve have to say about the uh

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uh you know sort of in their last

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meeting and what could we expect as a

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preview today well I want you to

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remember what the Federal Reserve

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started by talking with Jerome Powell

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came out and said the following quote

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the full effect of our actions are yet

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to be felt even so yes there still is

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more work to be done so what he's

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telling us is very clearly the FED is

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acutely aware that there is a lag some

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form of lag we don't know what that is

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is it three months six months 18 months

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who knows to their monetary policy and

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so yes there's still work to do to get

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inflation down but how much of that can

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just occur by us holding or being closer

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to potentially pausing or right now

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what's most likely in most priced in is

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that we're just looking at 25 BP hikes

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so we go 25 in March we go 25 in may we

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go 25 in June if we need to we just beat

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data dependent and patient but the

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biggest thing for me today is again how

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willing is the Federal Reserve to ruin

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the lives of poor people that is your

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biggest tell Jerome Powell in the last

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meeting told us that higher mortgage

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rates continue to a weekend housing

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weakening housing in my opinion is

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actually one of their big goals housing

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weakening is great for the FED because

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you're basically just taking away from

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richer people

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biggest tenants are substantially poor

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like 20x poor than homeowners generally

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on average so let's take away from rich

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people by crushing housing I personally

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believe the FED doesn't care so much

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about crushing the stock market they

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want yields to be up and so far they've

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actually been engineering this perfectly

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yields 10-year yields for example while

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it went down to about 3.39 for a hot

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minute but popped right back to 3.94

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we're almost we're knocking on the door

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of nearly four percent on the 10-year

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right now it's insane you look at the

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two-year I mean some of the numbers

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you're getting right now are knocking on

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the door five percent it's crazy

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Financial conditions are very very tight

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and if if the housing market can solve

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it that should drag everything else down

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not so true as Princeton Economist

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Robert Schiller has told us for the

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stock market now keep this in mind drum

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Powell does realize that yes there's

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some signs of wage growth easing but

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we're still out of balance job vacancies

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are very high so we know that he gave us

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that heads up but he says despite job

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making sees being high and even after

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the hot jobs report came out Jerome

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Powell's response was hey you know what

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Financial conditions already responded

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and tightened that doesn't necessarily

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mean we have to do more that's what he

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said in an interview uh with um Mr uh

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Ruben Dave Rubin the day after the jobs

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report it was fantastic uh so really in

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my opinion I'm just expecting a

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reiteration of just hey look we're going

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to keep it slow and steady 25s 25 25-25s

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we don't want to cause unnecessary

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hardship any kind of indication like

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that to me is is somewhat bullish and I

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like to say somewhat bullish because I

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think we've already tightened

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potentially too much

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um but uh but anyway uh Jerome Powell

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also and it's fascinating to go back to

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my notes I love going back to my notes

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because you pick up things differently

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than you do the first time around but um

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you know he talks about this idea that

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our policy should reflect Financial

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conditions which in his words quote have

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already tightened significantly now

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their belief is that they still need to

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raise a little bit to get policy rates

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to be somewhat in line with those

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financial conditions that's pretty clear

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but we don't got to go too far because

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remember there is that dual mandate uh

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and so of course regarding the terminal

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rate they haven't decided yet for March

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and may that's fine we expect to see a

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reiteration of that because we're going

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to get a whole nother set of data in

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March here uh now the other thing is

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this is probably the biggest thing for

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the Federal Reserve is they say it's

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very difficult to know if we've done too

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little and they're very cautious about

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prematurely loosening and so this is

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fair I do think when Jerome Powell tells

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us the disinflation process has started

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and M2 money supply is falling and wage

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growth indicators and the the Embers of

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inflation are showing that they're going

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away I do think it's clear we're going

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to have higher rates for much longer but

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I do think we're leaning towards that

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pause pretty soon now that's not to be

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confused with a Fed pivot right the

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fed's certainly not going to cut rates

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until we actually see confirmation that

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inflation is falling and remember every

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time I bring up the pivot it's important

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to remember the famous words this time

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is different the most

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famous dangerous forwards uh in

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investing however

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the reality is If the Fed actually Cuts

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rates this time around they're doing so

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because their convinced inflation is

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basically going away right uh and

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they've potentially just gone too far

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but anyway big thing uh for the Federal

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Reserve on on their forecast is hey look

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still some work to do but we want to be

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very very careful that we're not

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unnecessarily crushing jobs and Jerome

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Powell told us about the wage price

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spiral that looked so far so far any

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fears of a wage price spiral are

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actually becoming less Salient that

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there's less evidence in the surveys

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they're doing and the monitoring that

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they're doing uh that there are the

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conditions for a wage price spiral are

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actually present instead we see a drum

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Powell who says look we see Goods

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deflation we see housing deflation and

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then we're not we're basically neutral

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on service inflation that yeah look we

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hope he says we hope that the

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disinflation process that we've seen in

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goods and housing will carry over to the

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core Services segment X housing and he

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believes that we will see that very soon

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that process begin he does say look I'm

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neither optimistic nor pessimistic but

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his suggestion is look we should see

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that disinflation process starts soon so

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let's be patient we're as long as we're

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not cutting we're potentially not over

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tightening right so that's what I expect

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is a stable neutral fed in these minutes

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that come out today that don't

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necessarily give us any cause for alarm

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if anything they'll give us cause for

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patience and I think that's the most

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important thing to have in the market

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right now because again that Nike Swoosh

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is going to be very very volatile

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because there's so much fear or

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uncertainty and doubt that pops up

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especially around every time the Federal

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Reserve farts or says something uh but

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but a few big things to really take away

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from this number one I don't think

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today's minutes really matter that much

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because I think the Market's just going

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to Discount the fact that that happened

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before

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uh the release of all the crazy negative

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reports that we got however if you're

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looking for something bullish look for

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potential indicators that the FED fears

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over tightening we already know they

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fear prematurely loosening that's okay

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though the solution to that is easy you

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just stay level like you just get to

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five and a half percent or five and a

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quarter percent or whatever just stay

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there and wait uh that's that's the easy

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part and we've got potentially three

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Cycles but they're like three fed

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meetings to do so and that actually

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gives us a February data March data

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April data May data uh that's four

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months of data before the June meeting

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which would really take us above uh the

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average of of where the Fed was

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expecting to go in December got plenty

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of time for data so really the big thing

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is what can you do to remove this idea

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from markets that oh that's it the fed's

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gonna somehow all of a sudden uh Paul

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volkera so we're gonna get 50 BP hikes

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again and we're gonna go back to 100

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basis point hikes I don't think they're

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trying to send that signal volatility in

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fact I personally think that would

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actually hurt their credibility that

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they would rather stick with the 25s

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because they don't want to be seen as

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changing their minds too often they want

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to be seen as no no this is we're on the

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right path remember when drone Powell

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came out I think it was uh was it

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December I think it was the December

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meeting yeah man it's like he suggested

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oh yeah the the soft uh CPI reports

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we're seeing you know we saw in November

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and October oh yeah uh we we expected

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those you know it's kind of like okay

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they're trying to make it seem like

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they're still very much in control and I

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think one of the best ways they can do

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that is by exhibiting patience but also

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by making it clear that they don't want

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to cause unnecessary pain that they'd

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rather be patient at a certain level

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than just getting ridiculous and and

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Paul volckering us when it's not

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necessary now of course and I think they

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can massage these minutes after the fact

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the one place the sort of the other

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place that I would be looking is are

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they trying to massage any kind of

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messaging about inflation break evens

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that might be a little bit more

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concerning giving given that inflation

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break evens have been popping up on the

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right side though you know even though

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we've had this run-up in inflation break

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evens mostly on the backs of the January

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data you know I'd suppose if there's any

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kind of optimistic way to view this you

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could you could try to view this

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optimistically and say hey look okay

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it's noisy but it's still a ballpark

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downtrend right or you could even say

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Hey you know whatever it's it's stable

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look we could just Channel this see look

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okay look even the channel trend is

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slightly down just wait for some more

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disinflationary reports and that goes

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away so I think there are ways to talk

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that away and the Federal Reserve might

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do them but bottom line out of all of

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this I'm not terribly bearish on the

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fomc minutes today to me honestly the

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fact that we have minutes coming out

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today is slightly a bit of an eye roller

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uh but hey you know what if we could

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take anything away including fears of

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over tightening I think that would

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actually be a a bullish element so we'll

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see but anyway those minutes come out at

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uh 11 A.M Pacific time so uh buckle up

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yeah what will happen if we return to a

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75 BP hike no no no no no no like I I

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there's no way uh and I mean let me just

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put it this way I think you're probably

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looking at like a less than one percent

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chance that can happen because really I

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think the feds in this this mindset of

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if we send the signal that we're

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changing our minds then they will lose

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whatever credibility they have left

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because it will send the signal to

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markets that things are out of control

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uh and that the Federal Reserve is

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incapable of doing their job and then

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you will literally send a signal to

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markets that oh damn uh we're going to

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need to get Paul volckert uh and I don't

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think that's necessary right now because

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the leading indicators are not

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suggesting that as we've talked about

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with the M2 money supply as we've talked

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about with with uh uh you know leading

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indicators I I think I don't even think

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there's a likelihood of you seeing a 50

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BP because again it changes The

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credibility of the FED they're they're

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kind of thick 25 25 when they pause like

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when that pause actually happened

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they're going to be willing to stay

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there for a while I'm not expecting Cuts

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anytime soon and neither is the bond

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market anymore originally we were

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thinking Cuts maybe at the end of this

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year that's been pushed off to next year

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and also the idea that of a recession

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this year has somewhat been delayed so

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uh uh so what if they do a psychological

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hike and cut wait what do a psych hike

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and see but no no no that's not what the

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fed's trying to do like they're not

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trying to psychologically you know f

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with you uh like they're trying to be

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very clear about their messaging and

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then do what they say they're going to

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do right they don't want to send

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volatility because that's how you break

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things it's literally how you break

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things like the financial markets are

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very fragile and what you don't want to

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do is start like throwing around Stones

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like the fed's kind of walking through a

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glass house right now and you don't want

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to happen what happened in the United

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Kingdom where you break the bond market

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and the Federal Reserve has to bail out

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markets it's the last thing the FED

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wants to do right now because then you

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could get your double dip of inflation

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or or sort of your your double bump of

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inflation and a double dip crash right

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so the last thing the FED wants to do is

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is like start throwing stones and start

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being like a loose cannon here that's

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that's not that's not at all remotely

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the the indication of of what the

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federal reserve's goal is whatsoever I

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don't see that at all who knows I could

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be wrong at least I'm willing to make it

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willing to make a point here and uh

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really you know what I think suffers the

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most from higher for longer it ain't

15:33

stocks folks it ain't stocks stocks will

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be I so strongly believe stocks will be

15:41

totally fine once we're convinced that

15:44

the big problem of a potential Paul

15:47

volcker goes away that's the biggest

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fear I think markets have I don't even

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think markets give a crap about the

15:52

potential for a recession or negative

15:54

EPS I really don't think that's what

15:57

people really care about not at all why

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do I not think that well I don't think

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that mostly because the fed or markets

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care most about these potential

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exogenous shocks of getting a Paul

16:10

volcker right that that you end up

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having to absolutely destroy markets uh

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that I think is what the market is most

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worried about and most hedging for a

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slight recession whatever man okay so

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Staples are going to have negative

16:25

earnings GDP slightly negative whatever

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the Smart Companies will go will just be

16:31

investing and using it as an opportunity

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to build right my belief could be wrong

16:36

but it's my belief so what actually gets

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destroyed when in the higher for longer

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element real estate housing housing is

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where the sh9t show shows up because

16:48

that is directly affected by rights

16:51

substantially so higher for longer when

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you hear that

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like it's like when the FED pauses and

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we're at the higher for longer level or

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even we're doing these nominal 25 BPS

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this is a sign the fed's in control

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slowly getting the inflation out of the

17:06

system things are looking better and

17:07

better and better as time goes on like

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the trend is going in the right

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direction just gonna be patient here

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that patience ruins real estate it's

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actually good for stocks there's a

17:17

reason we're off the lows because the

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the fear of of uncontrollable inflation

17:23

is going away of course January

17:25

reactivated some of those fears but

17:28

that's okay we expect that sort of

17:29

volatility uh you know Carlos here says

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dream on if you believe in two percent

17:33

inflation see but your problem is you're

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not actually referencing a time frame

17:38

here I don't think the Federal Reserve

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thinks inflation is going to go to two

17:41

percent this year sure that might be a

17:43

dream but that's because it takes time

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for inflation to fall out of the system

17:48

I mean look how long it's taking for

17:50

rent inflation to go to work its way

17:52

through the system rent inflation's

17:53

still going up and we already know the

17:56

current data is saying it's plummeting

17:58

so it takes a long time for this data to

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actually show up such lagging garbage it

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sucks but look when are we going to go

18:04

back to two percent inflation who cares

18:06

it could be 26 27 28 29 doesn't matter

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as long as we're trending towards that

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I'm a big believer that the that stock

18:16

markets can go from hedging for a new

18:19

Paul volcker to

18:21

of recovery the slow Nike Swoosh

18:25

recovery we don't actually have to get

18:26

back to two percent remember folks they

18:28

could pull hat the the

18:30

um uh the the Fate Genie out of the

18:33

bottle right flexible average inflation

18:35

targeting we could we could literally

18:37

have a 10 year cycle folks of inflation

18:39

above two percent and a 10-year cycle

18:42

before the pandemic of inflation below

18:44

two percent and guess what the FED does

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oh look the average was 10 or was two

18:49

percent over a 20-year period like hello

18:52

yeah so so there's uh like this this

18:56

this idea that oh yeah we're not gonna

18:59

stop until we get two percent man

19:00

everybody's forgotten about fate and and

19:03

the patience that's possible but again

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that patience screws housing so my

19:08

belief about housing and this is a very

19:11

important one I want you to like you

19:13

know this is I really believe this I

19:16

believe you are better off not buying

19:19

real estate where you think the bottom

19:22

is like right here I think you're better

19:25

off focusing on real estate when you

19:28

have absolute confirmation that you're

19:31

not actually double legging down right

19:34

so in other words I would rather buy

19:37

real estate here than I would buy real

19:40

estate here even though that's roughly

19:42

the same level I would rather be patient

19:44

because I I think that as as long as

19:47

these 10 years sit around four percent

19:48

we and we might be here with some silly

19:51

January and December data and I think

19:53

that's what's ahead of you uh and that's

19:55

solely looking at the 10-year and what

19:57

we're seeing in terms of the potential

19:59

for year-over-year fear rents and uh

20:02

institutional liquidations so uh anyway

20:05

when was it set in stone we needed to be

20:07

at two percent well I was actually

20:08

really the problem that was the fault of

20:10

the FED uh they they uh over the last

20:13

three years they've basically massaged

20:15

that into markets uh you know back in

20:17

the 70s actually the late 80s what am I

20:19

saying but after Paul volcker the

20:21

Federal Reserve utilized a strategy

20:23

known as opportunistic disinflation and

20:25

they basically just took their time to

20:27

get back down to uh two percent

20:29

inflation and that time was somewhere

20:32

around 25 years uh to get back down to

20:35

uh two percent inflation so it took took

20:38

a dramatic amount of time it's really

20:41

incredible

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