The 2023 Real Estate CRASH.
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it's time to talk about the famed real
estate crash when did real estate prices
actually bottom what are real estate
prices doing right now and could real
estate be the cause of the current
recession or not recession let's talk
about that in this video first let's
understand where we came from we came
from interest rates below three percent
on a 30-year fixed rate mortgage sitting
around 2.75 percent with over 90 percent
of individuals having an interest rate
of under six percent over 70 percent
having an interest rate of under four
percent most Americans are doing pretty
dang well with their home mortgages and
what makes America different from other
countries in America today different
from the past
was what I just described in most other
countries you get what are known as five
or ten year fixed rate terms which means
you have to refinance every five or ten
years and you don't get this 30-year
fixed trade mortgage that increases the
pressure to sell or to refinance and if
you can't refinance than to sell or make
the payment if you have to make the
higher payment then you end up getting
hit as a consumer
in America
with the 30-year mortgage we've actually
been relatively resilient from this sort
of pain if you look at the housing
market in the United Kingdom it's in the
doldrums down 20 plus percent the same
thing in Canada and it's still down by
those levels if anything in some cases
it's actually worsening whereas in the
United States even though interest rates
are going higher home prices aren't
actually worsening anymore and this
feels very different from the last
Cycles in the last cycles and it's
always dangerous to say the proverbial
this time is different but in the last
cycle you know we we had a massive
economic recession led by the housing
market and that was because most
individuals were actually on a variable
loans in other words as interest rates
went up they immediately were within six
months I had to start paying higher
interest rates were introduced to more
expensive housing using teaser loans or
the inability to actually qualify for
loans using non-qualified mortgages
which now most mortgages qualified
Dodd-Frank ability to repay requirements
exist today for both qualified mortgages
and non-qualified mortgages whereas back
in 2005 thanks and seven you did not as
a borrower have to have the ability to
repay you could be a teacher and get a
loan for a 1.5 million dollar house
because you said you could afford it you
didn't have to prove your ability to
repay massive difference and again most
did not lock in the 30-year fixed rate
mortgage whereas today we're locking the
30 year fixed rate mortgage which
potentially establishes the idea
that the housing market crash
may actually be entirely avoided
as long as rates do not continue to stay
at this level which they may for too
long
and that is because we are preventing
price Discovery by preventing people
from selling we're preventing inventory
by preventing inventory we keep pricing
stable because people continue to buy
properties based on comps and there's no
forced selling of distressed properties
because people's mortgages are going
nutty instead people's mortgages are
affordable not new mortgages new
mortgage affordability is off the charts
but the number of buyers actually
financing homes at these new mortgage
levels is extremely low you're down 30
from last year and even last year's
levels were down from the year before
that so what's actually happening to
prices well there are two pieces we need
to cover there's a Wall Street Journal
piece and there's a Morgan Stanley piece
and what I'd like to do is start with
the Morgan Stanley base
Morgan Stanley's prices reapproaching
Peak well this is really interesting and
we should analyze this the way I'd like
to start analyzing it is that I actually
like to look at the chart uh and so what
you can see is you can see here pending
home sales down 14 year over year uh
some markets are down even more than
that new home sales are up that's great
this tells us about purchase
applications these the number of people
going for mortgages the number of people
actually buying we know those numbers
are down and that's fine but what we
think is most interesting uh is actually
the following listen to this I'm trying
to find exactly where it is where is it
here it is uh we expect to return to
positive prints with next month's case
Chiller real estate home price index
actually showing a positive read for
Real Estate home prices on a
year-over-year level again with our
forecasts now showing a base case of a
zero percent gain in real estate prices
in a bull case of a five percent
elevation in real estate prices wide do
they believe this well they believe that
real estate prices basically bottomed in
March I'm trying to find exactly where
that chart is we're going to end up
finding it but anyway they believe that
real estate prices have ended up
bottoming in March of 2023 we'll find in
a moment uh and when real estate prices
bottomed in March of 2023 they actually
started recovering from March of 2023.
so you had this decline from about May
of 2022 to about December to March so
December 22 to March of 2023 and since
then you've actually started having a
recovery and that recovery is really
weird because so many less homes are
actually selling because there's so few
so many fewer buyers and this is having
a really weird dynamic on Supply you're
actually in many markets seeing the
months of supply of homes
go up not down now that's crazy people
say like Kevin that's crazy what do you
mean the months of Supply is going up
there are way fewer homes on the market
that's true but they're also way fewer
buyers and that does still create a risk
for the real estate market remember
quick math how this could work if there
are 100 homes on the market
and 20 homes sell every single month
then when you divide the two you have
five months of inventory on the market
if now you have 70 or let's make the
math easy let's go with 80 homes on the
market so 20 less inventory but you have
half as many buyers uh you actually now
have eight months of housing inventory
so housing inventory actually went up by
over 50 percent
as your buyers dropped by 50 because
inventory is down 20 isn't that crazy it
is and that is a risk factor for yes
prices
but only if price Discovery is forced
forcing price Discovery is usually done
by short sales foreclosures and distress
sales
we're getting very few of those right
now in fact in a lot of markets
specifically like in the San Diego
Market you're actually seeing
substantially more competition now than
you saw at the beginning of the year
implying actually a market where buyers
are saying okay like the worst is behind
us it's time to continue buying and in a
weird way you're getting asset Rich home
buyers coming out and buying more
properties not less
The Wall Street Journal just released a
piece indicating that the fall and home
prices may already be over home prices
aren't falling anymore after declining
on a year-over-year basis for five
consecutive months the longest run in 11
years home prices Rose in July this
aligns with the idea that the bottom was
probably somewhere between March and
June somewhere around there March and
June of 2023 was probably the bottom
bottom uh although December was
potentially considered a bottom in some
markets but it is somewhere in that
six-month region seems to have been so
far where that inflection point is which
I've been waiting for that inflection
point and that's one of the reasons
we've started buying with house Hack
That We're cautiously buying right we're
not like oh my gosh we need to blow
everything because we actually don't
think that real estate prices are going
to escape we think real estate prices
will probably be somewhat volatile and
relatively more neutral we don't see a
big crash just like we don't see a big
runaway that's just Based on data we're
looking at right now what we're seeing
in the markets I combine data with
actually being in markets talking to
Realtors and seeing what the competition
is doing there's nothing like having a
read on the housing market like actually
writing offers and seeing what deals
you're winning and what deals you're
losing that gives you a great
perspective for what is actually
happening in the market not what the
Twitter trolls want you to believe is
happening in the market because I'll
tell you the Twitter trolls are really
good at taking things out of context and
we could look at some of these things
for taking things out of context and and
potentially add some context to some of
the things that are being said mostly
because generally what you find is that
the folks on Twitter are going to take
charts that say that tell you about
uh what housing affordability is doing
for new home buyers who are financing
all of their homes
but those charts generally completely
forget
that there is a very high likelihood
that you could end up with a greater
wealth Gap than you've previously ever
had before and that's scary and it
should be scary for people it's sad we
don't want the wealth Gap to widen but
it actually can widen and this is why
when you see charts like the buying
versus renting charts like this here's a
buying versus renting chart the only
reason this chart exists the way it does
is because interest rates are as high as
they are right now but if interest rates
normalize which we expect them to you
might actually end up seeing the monthly
cost to buy a house be lower than the
accelerated price of what rents have
done notice this if you drew a trend
line on the increase of rent prices
notice this inflection point in rents
right here this inflection point in
rents is driven by fundamental increases
in rent and wages whereas this is driven
by artificially High interest rates
right now yes we've previously had
artificially low interest rates
but this is artificially high right now
to deal with the money printing that
occurred
as interest rates come back down you
probably will actually see the monthly
cost to buy a house lower than the cost
of rent which will be pretty remarkable
and so that's why asset Rich buyers are
actually buying now because they expect
that will actually be a Tailwind to home
prices in the future and it might take a
couple years might take three years for
rates to come back down that's okay
but anyway the Wall Street Journal
suggests here uh that a residential the
residential real estate downturn is
turning out to be shorter and shallower
than many housing economists expected
scarcity is a big reason High interest
rates have promoted homeowners to stay
put rather than buy new homes or take on
expensive mortgages resulting in an
unusually low inventory of homes for
sale many potential home buyers have
given up their search because mortgage
rates are just simply too high at a two
decade High sure mortgage rates are
ridiculous right now seven eight percent
is very very expensive right now in
August prices in 30 of the 50 biggest
markets actually hit a record high
according to Black Knight now you also
have to keep in mind you have to add
inflation an inflation adjustment into
some of these prices you know you look
at oh here's the chart uh this this
gives you sort of your your chart yeah
look at that so it kind of shows you a
bottom march to May that's what I've
been looking for uh and here's your
inflection point which you're finally
reiterating right now that doesn't mean
you can't be volatile that's why you
want to be careful but you want to watch
this but what's fascinating is
if you look at an eight hundred thousand
dollar house today and you take off you
know uh well let's do it the other way
take a 650 000 house and you add 20
inflation which we've had that's a 780
000 house nearly 800 000 house so it's
kind of like
800 is the new 660 ish it's scary but
it's just the way it is you kind of have
to like reprogram our mindsets it's
bizarre but anyway uh and it's probably
I mean the inflation probably isn't
going to go away you know it's the same
thing for grocery prices and some of the
other prices that we're just dealing
with and uh but anyway other economists
have been torn uh I have torn up bearish
forecasts you know my belief was that
prices would fall between 10 to 25
percent uh and they did
in many markets you look at Boise you
look at Austin you look at Phoenix these
markets were down 20 they've just
started recovery now some of these
markets are only down five to ten
percent uh it's pretty incredible but
anyway uh new listings of homes for sale
are so low that baiting Wars are still
breaking out yes in move-in ready
properties you're getting a lot of
bidding wars for move-in ready homes and
it's another thing that we're
consistently seeing is that move-in
ready homes are more desirable for most
home buyers right now as opposed to like
hoarding fix droppers or whatever
specifically because people don't have a
lot of money left to actually do the
renovations and that's hurting people
even more from being able to get good
deals in real estate you know I teach in
the zero to millionaire course how to
actually do what I do to buy real estate
uh you know I think it's I think it's so
jaded but there are a lot of people that
are like oh you know if somebody's not
going to tell you their secrets I
literally tell you all my secrets uh
it's like because there's I have an
abundance mindset there's there's so
much opportunity out there all of them
are on the zero to millionaire course
which by the way we're bringing back our
partnership with I'm not allowed to say
in the name but let's just say a big box
retailer where we can now get five to
Seventeen percent off the products we
buy there for home renovations should be
coming back this week which uh will be a
course member only benefit which we're
really excited about uh and it's gonna
be great for househack as well because
you're doing a big fat discounts for
house hacks as well house hacks as well
but anyway another thing is interesting
is that the pace of affordability for
homes has actually deteriorated again
see like this is a chart here and
basically when the line goes up from the
private previous line it means that
things are getting worse instead of
better and it means unaffordability is
actually even getting worse now than it
has been and it's already been bad uh
and then that's because we've recently
seen oil prices go up and rates go up
higher uh it's unfortunate but it's it's
exactly what's happening uh Builders
building more but uh even starts not
that great what you're actually fighting
is more starts in 5u and it's under
construction than single family I
thought that was somewhat interesting oh
there we go here's another chart year
over year change in median prices this
shows you that bottom right there in
March to May
all right march to May uh and and I
waited to for that inflection to really
confirm itself uh and then we started
buying in August so uh you know maybe
could have been a couple months earlier
but honestly I think we're pretty pretty
pretty close and there's still so many
deals to get I mean each of the deals we
bought so far has been you know a home
that people can't live in hoarding homes
uh water leaks whatever and they're each
going to be probably 120 000 wedges each
I mean you're just plucking them up it's
kind of incredible you could do it too
you know so anyway these are some of the
things we wrote down but uh it's very
interesting the the real estate crash uh
that the Bears are really calling for
isn't happening here I will tell you
though where there is some pain organ
and Boise there's pain and the Airbnb
market and then obviously office space
so you have more individualized pain
like I'm seeing more institutions off
offload airbnbs and short-term rentals
and corporate rentals
and I'm also seeing more pain uh in
certain markets again like the Boise's
uh and uh and those may turn around but
some of the more coveted levels areas
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